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[Neil]

ah yes, Derek but there are different brands of Aliphatic and the two brands I use specifically state on the bottle that they are Waterproof (as opposed to "weatherproof") and for the amount of contact that these models will come into contact with salt water (the worst kind) I have never ever had any de lamination what so ever.
 
you must realise and remember that they quote these statements to cover themselves from compensation claims when the product they make is used on an outdore product 24/7/365...which model boats are never used to anyway........the most my boats or probably any boat would be subject to full water immersoin is if they sank.................and then it's be back to the drawing board anyway

[pugwash]

Neil just wondered if you ever used Cascamite powered wood glue - I have been using it
for about 55 years ( back to the school woodworking classes) and it is excellent stuff and
you can mix just as much or as little as you want and it has good shelf life and serious
grip properties  ending up stronger than the wood
Geoff

[Rottweiler]

Just to but in here,I myself use cascamite,and find it very efficient.The main downfall is that it doesnt "grab" and has to pinned down until it hardens.And guess what this also states it is not waterproof! There is a waterproof version,though which is a horrible brown colour.I have some models that are over 50 years old,having been stuck with cascomite,and although covered by liberal layers of paint, have never yet let me down.
Sorry Neil,just thought I would put in my two penneth worth.
Mick F

[Neil]

no problems guys........to answer your question geoff...........I haven't seen it for years, never mind used it.......................but as Mick says, i usually want something these days that is quick grab and ready for sanding within an hour, so old cascamite powder doesn't fit the bill with me anymore..........I used to use it when teaching for gluing up carcasses and frames for kid's jobs..............as you say strong as an ox on the joint, but always needed clamping.
 
neil.

[pugwash]

Probably not the glue for this particular job but it is still available - I got some in our local hardware shop
and Amazon stocks it, if you should  require it for other types of work.
 
Geoff

[Rottweiler]

Yeh good stuff.Photo showing a typical application of cascamite!

[essex2visuvesi]

Yeh good stuff.Photo showing a typical application of cascamite!

I'm guessing the wife wont be dressmaking anytime soon!    you nicked all her pins! 


I didn't know you could still buy cascamite..... My Dad always went on about that stuff.... reckons the new wood glues are not as good

[Rottweiler]

I think we had better let Neil have his Lifeboat build back before he moderates us,now where were we...next episode please Neil?

[Neil]

you chaps chat all ya wan't ........don't bother me.
 
I remember my greatest faux paux with glue..
 
was helping one lad dry cramp his GCE practical up on e evening....it was quite a complex telephone table and integral chair.......he was one of my stars..........and he was being moderated in a coupel of days......so we set about putting it together and getting it square with diagonal rods, sash cramps, g cramps etc and then the next night he was on his own as I couldn't help in the actual gluing......we always kept our wood glue in a fairy liquid bottle which I told him to use.
 
he came to glue it up the next night as I was on a meeting elsewhere, and the following day the moderator came in to look at the module and to watch the lad de cramp the thing.
 
he took the cramps off and the whole lot fell apart............we started to laugh, and I realised that for once in a blue moon the cleaner had come in and replenished all the CDT rooms with new fairy liquid bottles.
 
Luckily the mod was from another local school and saw the funny side, and the lad passed with an A........so yes.......there are glues, and then there are "glues"

[RAAArtyGunner]

last shot shows an alteration to the lids and hinges of the stern storage boxes.................all good fun.

Was keeping an eye on how you were going to open the lids
 
Good to see you are having fun. Nice to have the occasional challenge from time to time 

[mermod]

I just had to poke my head in and say that as a cabinetmaker I loved the story about the switcheroo with the glue bottle 

[Neil]

I just had to poke my head in and say that as a cabinetmaker I loved the story about the switcheroo with the glue bottle 

It wasn't funny at the time when the whole thing collapsed in a heap of nice old reclaimed English oak as we took the sash cramps off, one by one    ............but once the shock had subsided the laughter started, lol

[derekwarner]

Neil......all of those little brass hinges & clamping wing nuts look brilliant installed........I remember them being painted....but were they sprayed with a clear lacquer? ..........Derek

[Neil]

no derek,
as they were painted with enamels.............they will be given a coat of gloss varnish tomorrow before the tops go on though.
neil.

[irishcarguy]

Hi Neil, as you already know I really admire your work & skill, but one thing strikes me every time I see you use filler , you must have been in the plastering business at some time in your life, LOL. Mick B.

[Neil]

Hi Neil, as you already know I really admire your work & skill, but one thing strikes me every time I see you use filler , you must have been in the plastering business at some time in your life, LOL. Mick B.

no matey..........just good with a sander......

[Rottweiler]

Neil, When fitting the leather on the oars,it should not meet in the middle,there should be a small gap between the edges.I always thought this was to allow for expansion when the leather got wet?Apparently not so,it was to tell the oarsman that the oar was the right way up in the dark.IE the gap at the top,therefore the fastenings for the leather would be on top and not digging into the wooden rowlocks/pegs.
Mick F
 
PS you are doing a grand job there Neil...as always.

[Neil]

Neil, When fitting the leather on the oars,it should not meet in the middle,there should be a small gap between the edges.I always thought this was to allow for expansion when the leather got wet?Apparently not so,it was to tell the oarsman that the oar was the right way up in the dark.IE the gap at the top,therefore the fastenings for the leather would be on top and not digging into the wooden rowlocks/pegs.
Mick F
 
PS you are doing a grand job there Neil...as always.

thanks for the info matey...........would never have thought of even leaving a gap, as I have never seen an oar from an old lifeboat. cheers to you all. neil.

[Rottweiler]

Neil,forgive what may be a stupid question,but would the oars of that age be "sweeps" (curved?) Its difficult to describe what I mean but should they not be straight blades with angled edges?
Mick F

[Neil]

don't know matey, but the pics of the Maude pickup I have which was a contemprorary build at time show the curved blades..........however I will be making another set of straight blades as a alternative.
 
neil.

[baloo]

Carry on the good work niel,you just don`t realise how much info that  all of us are picking up from your build projects.Martin

[Rottweiler]

both types look good Neil!!!!
Mick.PS Shannon in Newlyn yesterday!

[irishcarguy]

Not too much to be said Neil, you satisfy all your helpers & critics. I am not sure the curve or flat on the oar would matter if you were fighting for your life in a gale 10 storm. Mick B.

[essex2visuvesi]

I am not sure the curve or flat on the oar would matter if you were fighting for your life in a gale 10 storm. Mick B.

I'd be grateful for either in that situation

[irishcarguy]

Thank you Essex, my sentiments entirely.  Neils work is stunning every day. I wish I had a shop teacher like you Neil when I was at school. Mick B.