Topic: 1/24 German E-Boats (Read 27167 times)

Shipmate60 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 28, 2015, 02:37:13 pm »

Models By Design produce the hull and the old Precision Controls (now Battlecrafts) did produce a complete fittings set.

Bob

TomHugill · « **Reply #26 on:** June 28, 2015, 03:43:32 pm »

Excellent! The Armored bridge could be interesting to scratch build!

rsm · « **Reply #27 on:** June 28, 2015, 04:26:44 pm »

The armoured bridge is available from Shapeways:

http://shpws.me/HUYt

deadbeat · « **Reply #28 on:** June 28, 2015, 06:07:55 pm »

The hull is made by Models By Design, but needed modification as their hull is of a S38.

The bridge front is one of the first made by Shapeways, it needed completion.

The fittings kit by Battlecraft is by and large S38 class although the guns and rubber dinghy are by them, I modified the 20mm gun for the tub mount, and they had just produced the twin 20mm zwilling mount although I had to build-in the bar. Battlecrafts also produced the white metal fittings. 1mm plastic card is used throughout.

The boat is powered by three MFA 800 motors at 12volts. Action ESCs/mixers used throughout. It also has Action's noisy thing with Action amplifier and speaker. Full power trials yet to be conducted when I get round to inflating the paddling pool.

Sandy · « **Reply #29 on:** June 28, 2015, 10:41:19 pm »

Very nice

gra2 · « **Reply #30 on:** June 29, 2015, 05:06:43 am »

Hi looking good.

Earlier post indicates supplier of hull and fittings.

Gra2

spooksgone · « **Reply #31 on:** June 29, 2015, 08:32:06 am »

Very very nice.

I have set my heart on a 1/24th scale mtb d for my next project. Looking forward to seeing the end result of your e boat. Thanks for sharing those stunning photographs. Phil

deadbeat · « **Reply #32 on:** June 29, 2015, 03:48:27 pm »

More pictures.

deadbeat · « **Reply #33 on:** September 12, 2015, 01:30:44 pm »

Here are a few photos of my E Boats basin trials. They went well and was pleased with the power from the three MFA 800 motors. The centre shaft which is below the waterline leaked a bit but I found that there was too much clearance in the shaft alignment, now sorted.

Hull and deck still needs painting. Guard rails, not yet fitted, but are complete and painted.

Guns, white metal fittings and rubber raft by Battlecraft.
Bridge front by Shapeways.
All electronics by Action.

I'm not fitting the tub cover or anchor as these were, it seems, not normally taken on patrol, it was also unusual to take spare torpedoes on patrol although I will have some for show.

Crew yet to be purchased, hopefully these will be from HL Mouldings.

jaymac · « **Reply #34 on:** September 22, 2015, 07:13:58 pm »

Which props did you fit please and do you find the 800's adequate in open water

deadbeat · « **Reply #35 on:** September 23, 2015, 09:30:24 am »

I am using three 162-21 D Type 50mm Raboesch props as follows:

Port and centre are D-50-R-3bl-M4
Stbd D-50-L-3bl-M4

I chose 50mm props as that is what my brother fitted on his E-boat giving satisfactory results, although the props I used were different design and manufacturer. My props have a pointed hub rather than a blunt hub which reflects more accurately what the real E-boats had, they look great.

I have not yet had an opportunity to run it in open water so can't comment on overall performance. The acceleration in my paddling pool looked good as it bounced back a good way as it hit the end of the inflated pool, lol!

jaymac · « **Reply #36 on:** September 23, 2015, 09:38:14 am »

Thank you

is that them turning inward or outward?

essex2visuvesi · « **Reply #37 on:** September 23, 2015, 02:24:16 pm »

I'm tempted to do one of these as well, but I cant decide if I want to go for the 1/24 or a 1:35 Italeri conversion?

TomHugill · « **Reply #38 on:** September 23, 2015, 02:41:48 pm »

Quote from: essex2visuvesi on September 23, 2015, 02:24:16 pm

I'm tempted to do one of these as well, but I cant decide if I want to go for the 1/24 or a 1:35 Italeri conversion?

Go big or go home!

jaymac · « **Reply #39 on:** September 23, 2015, 07:31:56 pm »

I have both (built neither) whilst the italeri is good mine needs much finer weather

essex2visuvesi · « **Reply #40 on:** September 24, 2015, 12:18:23 am »

I've been offered a bare hull for one, but no plans

Does anyone know a good place to get "ze planz" from?

gra2 · « **Reply #41 on:** September 24, 2015, 10:21:07 am »

Hi I purchased the armoured bridge from Shapeways the same time as yourself.

Can you tell me what type of paint preparation you performed on your bridge.

Graham

deadbeat · « **Reply #42 on:** September 24, 2015, 12:48:23 pm »

To answer a few questions:

Props are outward turning.

I treated the Shapeways bridge with filler primer as they recommen and sanded down most of the ridges. I havent got rid of them all but I wasn't worried about that as the real armour wouldn't have been totally smooth. I then used enamel paint and used washes for weathering. You'll need to add a fair bit of detail to the bridge to complete it. I found the bridge stong and easily drilled for hand rails, etc.

As regards whether a 1/35 E-boat or a 1/24 E boat a few things to consider:

a. 1/24 E boat is 57" long and is quite heavy, is your car big enough?

b. The 1/35 will work out cheaper in the long run, I'd allow around £400 to £500 for the 1/24 depending how much you make or buy, could even be more depending on detail and working functions built in to it.

c. The 1/24 is a semi-kit build whilst the 1/35 is a complete kit with some pretty detailed after market parts.

d. If building a 1/24 S100 I'd advise buying the 1/72 Revell kit, around £20 and use it as a reference model, I found it invaluable, resizing from 1/72 to 1/24 just mulitply by 3.

jaymac · « **Reply #43 on:** September 24, 2015, 07:00:09 pm »

Thanks re the Rotation direction

jaymac · « **Reply #44 on:** October 27, 2015, 05:45:37 am »

Have you had her on the water yet or any idea what amps the 800's Pull as I want to use an action p102 and thats ony 15A per motor

deadbeat · « **Reply #45 on:** October 27, 2015, 01:08:31 pm »

Although now almost finished except painting of hull and main deck, she will not see the water until next year now. I have no idea what amps the motors will pull except those advertised by the manufacturer, see comodrills website. I have fused everything at 15 amps. So we await sea trials with interest.

jaymac · « **Reply #46 on:** October 27, 2015, 07:23:06 pm »

Cheers if I'm afloat sooner with the same motors will let you know if you need a bigger Fuse

Though these are handy for pre sailing trials
http://www.4-max.co.uk/gt-mini-voltage-current-meter.htm

deadbeat · « **Reply #47 on:** October 28, 2015, 12:32:46 pm »

I've also used Action electonics.

I've used the P94 twin ESC/mixer for the outer shafts and the P80 ESC for the centre shaft. The P80 drives the P100 Noisy thing which is amplified by the P97 amplifier with a 4" speaker at 6watts. I've also used the Action distibution board and fuse boards I've placed fuses before the ESCs and also after ESCs to protect the motors, possibly OTT, but I'm a belt and braces man.

The motors have Action's large motor RFI suppression kits and each motor is earthed to the prop tube.

I look forward to hearing of your sea trials.

jaymac · « **Reply #48 on:** October 28, 2015, 01:05:26 pm »

Had a short trial this morning only using 2 what I believe are Johnson's on 8.4v bog standard 3 blade props very good speed on just that.THEN on the way back in steering went linkage on rudders had come off no harm done.

jaymac · « **Reply #49 on:** February 10, 2016, 01:14:22 pm »

First run today Deadbeat on 3x 850's and 3 x45 Raboesch props battery 2x 6v 3.3mha in series still have to go flat out for decent speed not goog enough for to scale .Methinks battery needs rethink as I did already try her on just two props whilst awaiting the the third and she was faster.Not great on electrics but methinks that says when on 3 props the extra battery power taken negates the prop speed of just two if its alow powered battery probably wrong must experiment more. dont want to go Lipo unless forced to
She turns well very responsive

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