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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2014, 10:23:52 pm »

that reminds me graham.......have looked and can't find the originals anywhere at the moment. sorry. neil.
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2014, 10:45:08 am »

No problem Neil, I am enjoying the challenge and it is testing the old grey matter, which I suppose in the end is what building models is all about :-))
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2014, 08:04:55 pm »

Today went better than expected in that I managed to pencil in the deck lines and other fittings on the overlays.  I remembered that I had an A3 cutting mat.  I set up the overlays using a vertical line as the king plank taping them down then drawing the lines for the planks at 10mm wide.  These might be slightly wider than shown on the plan but I will cut the king planks at 12mm to compensate.

tomorrow, I will check them out on the boat and if OK  will clean them up and ink in the deck lines using a fine tipped CD marker.

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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2014, 08:20:53 pm »

A quick question Neil, did you stain your decks before sealing them, if so what was the colour of the stain?  For the ALR I think it said dark oak, but your decks are a lot lighter?

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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2014, 08:11:37 pm »

Today as mentioned earlier I tried using a fine tip CD marker for the planking lines "A BIG MISTAKE!"  >>:-(  I had only drawn around one of the two deck lights just aft of the bow cockpit and was just going to start on the second when I noticed that the ink had started to bleed into the wood fibres.  I let it dry and was able to lightly sand it down, which removed  most  of the bleed.  In the end I went over all the lines with a sharp soft leaded pencil which gave the effect that I wanted. 

On reflection I've have only ever used CD markers on plastic card never on wood, so another lesson learned?
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2014, 09:15:34 pm »

A quick question Neil, did you stain your decks before sealing them, if so what was the colour of the stain?  For the ALR I think it said dark oak, but your decks are a lot lighter?

Thanks Graham

No, graham.....I don't stain my decks, as the photo of the Anne Letitia Russell that I had showed a very light deck, and have kept my decks on the Watsons at a natural colour..........don't know where the dark oak came from, but it wasn't mine.............here's a picture of my original ALR prototype that I built in 1995. and there is also a picture added of the Anne Letitia Russell herself going down the slip, and she didn't have any none slip grey paint on the deck, as successive coxs'ns wouldn't allow it, was told that by the long serving mechanic of the time.
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2014, 09:19:41 pm »

Today as mentioned earlier I tried using a fine tip CD marker for the planking lines "A BIG MISTAKE!"  >>:-(  I had only drawn around one of the two deck lights just aft of the bow cockpit and was just going to start on the second when I noticed that the ink had started to bleed into the wood fibres.  I let it dry and was able to lightly sand it down, which removed  most  of the bleed.  In the end I went over all the lines with a sharp soft leaded pencil which gave the effect that I wanted. 

On reflection I've have only ever used CD markers on plastic card never on wood, so another lesson learned?


If you want to use the cd marker then first seal the deck followed by the marker then seal over the top...........BUT make sure the marker doesn't dissolve in the solvent used in your deck sealer..... been there done that!! {-)




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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2014, 08:33:04 pm »

Thanks Neil, my mate who bought ALR kit from me and is building it, gave me the printed deck which he stained dark oak as per the instructions (and his words) it turned out looking cr##p and I must admit it just does not look right, so he now has planked the deck?

Earlier in the blog I was asking about the colour of the anti fouling and had that response from a member of the forum, where he worked on S.G.E. in 1954 and used Kobe Green.  So that is the period that I am building her at  so I am going to use that colour instead of the red, that is when the weather improves and can get spraying.

Also thanks Mike for the info on using the cd pen.  I must admit II never thought of that although I have been using cellulose  sanding sealer so I'll give a test first?

Once again thank you gentlemen :-))
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2014, 08:14:17 pm »

The last couple of days have been spent planking and staining the combings around to two cockpits and companionway.

I tried using self-adhesive fablon, which I tried first on the companionway. I had problems trying to get it to follow the curves, it was to stiff and trying to cut it made it look worse?  So off it came and went back to my original plan by using the mahogany paper that is supplied in the  ANN LETITIA RUSSEL kit. 

The paper was cut into 5mm strips using a paper shredder (Neil's trick and what a time saver) :-)).  The strips were then glued on using diluted PVA glue, which made the paper strips very pliable and easy to slide into place.  In the photo's, they have all been given their first coat of clear gloss yacht varnish.  The combings on the companionway and bow cockpit have had two coats of wood stain, one mahogany, which I thought was two pale/red. They now have had a coat of teak wood stain, which is darker and I will give them both a couple of more coats before varnishing them.
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2014, 09:29:35 pm »

good stuff matey. reminds me of something..................errrr, now, what was it??? ;D ;D
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2014, 05:03:08 pm »

Along with other small fittings, I have been making the Sampson posts for the boat  The two different size bases were cast in resin, the moulds made from two white metal ones that Neil kindly gave me along with some other fittings.  The actual posts are made out of obeche wood with plastic card top plates.
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2014, 05:19:08 pm »

Yesterday, I tried the figure that I am planning on using as coxswain and he did not look right at all, he was far to low down in the cockpit.  I thought that I had got the measurements wrong for the depth of the cockpit as the plans I have are very faint in that area but they don't look to be that far out.
Trying different methods to get him to be about the right height included standing him on a block, which again did not look right.  The solution that I am going to try is add another framework made out of 15mm balsa, and a false deck of 3mm ply, which will be screwed to the new frame.  This method will still allow access to the rudder servo and steering gear if needed and time the grating's including the raised one for the coxswain have been fitted it should be about the right height.
The photo's below, the first two show the original height the third the frame and the last two hopefully the solution?
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2014, 07:44:28 pm »

Having sorted out the height of deck and gratings required for the coxswain, I could then make some progress in finishing the windscreen.  As the base of the screen was made with teak stained plywood, and looking at the photo's of her where the frames appear to be metal, I decided  (it would make an attractive feature as well) to make the glazing frames in 4mm brass channel and 3mm angle with soldered joints.  This is the first time I have tried making a screen using brass as I have always used plastic and I am quite satisfied with the results, which will also look a lot better when cleaned up and the wood given a final coat of stain varnish? ;)
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2014, 07:52:08 pm »

Since my last post, I have been making the ventilation cowls, trunking and turning the masters for the base of trunking ready for casting in resin. The cowls themselves were given to me by Neil from his old stock ( many thanks again Neil).
With the decent weather we had today, I managed to get a couple of coats of paint on the hull, mainly to see what it looked like with green antifouling against the blue?  I will leave it now for a few days to harden off before doing anymore work on the hull.  When I am ready to finish the hull, I will give a good rub down with wet & dry then apply more coats with a light sanding with wet & dry between coats.
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2014, 07:56:16 pm »

I keep forgetting about the other stuff graham.......you'll have to come over and root through the box of bits I have, and then you'll have em, lol
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #40 on: March 04, 2014, 08:03:08 pm »

That's no problem Neil,  I can come anytime that is convenient for you?
I sent an email regarding the other hull and plans, so perhaps we can combine the two?
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2014, 07:53:26 pm »

Things have been a bit busy over the last couple of weeks with hospital appointments etc.  However I have managed to get a couple of more coats of paint on the hull.  I also have given the deck overlays three coats of sanding primer with a light sanding between coats and have fitted them to the hull.  I forgot until it was to late  when I realised that I had cut them to fit the main deck but forgot to all for the gap on the edges for the kickboards and stanchion's bases.  >>:-(  I have managed to trim them to allow for the fittings using a Stanley knife and small chisel though they need tidying up some more.
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2014, 08:00:14 pm »

I am going to leave the hull alone now for a few days for the paint to properly harden off and continue making the fittings and fixtures and painting them as I go along.  I have bought the doweling for the masts, which will need sanding to get the correct taper and also some planking with which to make a start on the kick boards.

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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2014, 08:48:33 pm »

looking superb graham........have you got over your interview on Monday, lol....ya never expected that, lol
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2014, 09:45:34 pm »

She is coming together very nicely...well done that man!
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2014, 10:22:28 am »

Well Neil, that is one good thing about coming to visit you, you never know what to expect besides good company an fine banter :-)) {-)graham
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2014, 04:40:31 pm »

hopefully next time matey we'll have time for a brew instead of a statement to the ol' bill. {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2014, 07:57:08 pm »

Had a few busy days where I have not been able to do much on the build?  However I have managed to re- fit the motors, which are 555's either run on 6 or 12 volts, will see how she runs on both before deciding on which is best then adjust the resistors/wiring for the navigation lights which will be LED's.
I also given the red fendering a couple of coats of paint which will have a final coat when all the brass eyelets for the  grab ropes and the rope fenders fitted? 
I have also made the rope locker, which is now ready for painting and can be seen just in front of the main hatch.

The next major task will be making the kick and bow boards, which I am hoping to be able to varnish as they were in the 50's?
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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2014, 08:14:15 pm »

Finally managed to fit the kick boards after several attempts and a lot of @#!!!! to get them looking some what passable. With the shear of the hull,  especially the two bow boards took a while to sand to profile.  The kick boards are made from blind slats which I find very handy for this type of job as they are very flexible and with gentle persuasion be made to bend.  I am leaving them varnished as they were on the S.G.E. in the fifty's.  The fairleads where shaped from the standard white metal ones from Dave Metcalf along with a few along the sides and the two white ones I made from resin.

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Re: 46' Watson S.G.E.
« Reply #49 on: April 16, 2014, 08:20:15 pm »

A couple of other jobs done was to fit the hand rails on the cockpit and make the funnel out of obeche sanding to shape and given a couple of coats of sealer, undercoat and a railway buff colour which I had  just to see if it look Ok?
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