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[Severn]

Ok hi there this is me first time in model boats basically I gained I 1/12 scale Severn boat from speedline models. I have not got the time to build this but I'm willing to pay someone to build this for me expect a professional finish I done some research on the kit I have and it's very expensive indeed. I looked through the box and there maybe some parts missing I.e I only have one 4 blade brass prop and shaft I'm sure 97% parts are there.however I'm willing to pay for anything that is missing. I have seen the finished models on the net and they look stunning with high detail finish. Going to extreme I would like a price on working wipers, lights , maybe smoke exhaust system and sound built in to. Many thanx if anyone can point me in the rite direction I want to give this model what it deserves as it has been sat in a garage for some years. The hull is complete fibreglass and the wheelhouse is there too.

[Neil]

Severn, what do you expect to pay someone to build that for you......because a well built Severn with all the electric and electronic parts working plus materials you are looking on at least 800. 1000 hours to build properly and professionally plus all the materials and parts on top of your kit.

I know the kits personally as I have had all three 1:12 scale boats that Adrian has for sale, Severn, 2 x trents and a Tamar...........and never had the time to build any because of the length of time they take to build nicely and properly, and of other projects..........

Took me around 800 hours to build the last two sailing model lifeboats I built and around 1000 hours each for my three motor powered classic lifeboats ( that time was each.......not all together)..........and the Severn is a brute to build anyway..............that is why they are so dear.

I would think about your money before you start asking someone to construct it, because if they build one in less time, then they are not doing justice to it and skimping somewhere.

neil.

[Shipmate60]

A Professional static model in a case start about £7000-00.


Bob

[Severn]

Hi Neil il take that into consideration just wanting a idea on a rough price.

[Neil]

A Professional static model in a case start about £7000-00.
Bob

as bob says............most of us on here are modellers..............some with the potential to build to professional levels..............but have our own build projects lined up for some years to come............and as such if you want one of those builders to  give up building their models to produce something for you......then you have to pay the going rate of a professional because you are taking them away from their hobby, producing something for them selves, and having to produce/build something for someone else.............I certainly wouldn't build a severn for someone else, with all the specifications that you want, for anything less than what Bob says.......and if anyone else does.........then good luck to them,

neil.

[Liverbudgie2]

To achieve the standard you appear to want is probably the best part of a twelve months work, the average wage now, so I believe, is around £25k per annum. Taking that into account a "proper professional" model builder, to make it a viable undertaking, will probably charge at least half as much again.

As Neil says  if they were to come in at much under that I would be wondering just what their levels of building and business skills really are.

LB

[NFMike]

I reckon Krishna could turn that round in a week 

[Severn]

There a 1/16 scale Severn on ebay at the moment going for £685 I can't understand how it would cost me thousands to get it built surely some can help me out or other option is I attempt it myself with the help of my local boat club

[John W E]

hi ya there Severn
 
The reason it will cost you so much for a member or anyone to build you a model is the standard which you require - also you are taking that person away from his own modelling to produce your model - its not that we are all wanting to make money from modelling - but all of us enjoy building and sailing.  As has already been stated by Neil this model also takes a lot of man hours to get it to a reasonable standard.
 
What you need to understand is your standard of building may be totally different to someone else's standards.   If the person who builds the model for you doesnt build it to your standards - what then?
 
On this forum we gladly give any help and information freely that is what this forum is mainly about and if you attempt the model yourself - you have the best people in the world on here.   They have more knowledge than anyone.
 
They will freely guide you through any problems you may encounter.
 
aye
 
john

[TheLongBuild]

There a 1/16 scale Severn on ebay at the moment going for £685 I can't understand how it would cost me thousands to get it built surely some can help me out or other option is I attempt it myself with the help of my local boat club

That is just the way of things, When a model is sold it never reaches its true value, Ie if you actually cost in to the build the Actual hour rate.  It may be going for £700 but I bet in reality it is worth 3k + when time is considered

[Severn]

Hi John Ok where do I start with this then I don't have any diagrams I only have breif descriptions where things go on the model I need plans for a severn and I can't say all the parts are there

[John W E]

Hi ya Severn
 
Well, if it were me, I would begin a new thread entitled 'help required - building this ..... name of model and the maker'
 
list the parts you need - etc.
 
also, do a good search of this Forum cos no doubt someone - perhaps the lifeboat people will have built this kit - as personlly lifeboats and kits are a 'grey' area to me for my building skills.
 
aye
 
john

[Neil]

There a 1/16 scale Severn on ebay at the moment going for £685 I can't understand how it would cost me thousands to get it built surely some can help me out or other option is I attempt it myself with the help of my local boat club

would you be prepared to work in your job that you either do now or have done in the past to work for 0.69p per hour, but then  have to pay your employer £800.00p for every 1000 hours worked?????............................errrrrr NO!!!!........ BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU WOULD BE ASKING THAT POOR GEEZER TO DO FOR HIS £685 QUID......THE 1;16 scale  KIT COSTS £800, THE TIME IS 1000 HOURS AND HE'S SELLING FOR LESS THAN THE KIT IS WORTH WITHOUT ALL HIS TIME......MAN HAS TO BE GA GA!!!

But you and others that want something building expect or want (is a better word) someone to leave the hobby they love to build something to a professional standard for you, for less than they have ( or you have in this case) paid for the thing in the first place....................SORRY BUT IT JUST DON'T HAPPEN LIKE THAT...............and sorry to be so blunt and rude, but I think you need to get a reality check!!!!

[Neil]

as Bluebird says, we are always willing to help, but not to be insulted.

have a look at thess sites here...................or even on Speedlines site as there is ( I believe) a build of a severn on there.

http://www.philsrcmodels.co.uk/#!__my-severn


http://www.modellifeboats.blogspot.co.uk/



http://www.speedlinemodels.com/


neil.

[Neil]

Hi John Ok where do I start with this then I don't have any diagrams I only have breif descriptions where things go on the model I need plans for a severn and I can't say all the parts are there

you can obtain GA plans from RNLI at poole but they are in 1:20 scale.

you can ask members on here ( but many will have already been posted ) of photos of actual Severns.........I have some of Spirit of Guernsey I can email you, and I know  Dave Forrester has published photo's of the Holyhead boat on here and you can ask Adrian Gosling at Speedline for any info on his severn kit ( how long it will take though is anyone's guess)............but as it is such a long build, you won't be in any rush anyway................put it this way, you won't be putting it on the lake this summer if you do it properly.
also join this web forum................there are guys on there who may be able to fix you up with a visit to a Severn near you for you to photograph.

http://lifeboats24-7.co.uk/forum/

neil.

[radiojoe]

We all build boats/ships as a hobby and thus it is a labour of love, If you were building for someone else it becomes a "job" and with the best will in the world it would be approached with a different mind set,
The last Severn kit I saw with all bits included was around £1000, If you do not feel confident about building this kit and you just want a RC boat to sail, my advise would be to sell the kit before you start to build it and use the money to buy an ARTR. (almost ready to run) boat that just needs a few things to make it go, the Severn is quite a complex boat, if this is your first build you would really be jumping in the deep end, if you do however decide to build her this Forum is the place to be.  Joe.

[Shipmate60]

Or wait till a completed one comes up on ebay or here.
But you will just have to accept the build standard.
One thing to be aware of is that model boats are very photogenic and a picture will always flatter the model.


Bob

[kinmel]

My wife's hobby is needlecraft and she happily spends 18 months on a project.

Two years ago an acquaintance asked her to complete a cross-stitch kit that would be a wedding present for her daughter.  "Just keep a note of the hours it takes and I will pay you for your time".

It took 723 hours to complete and her payment was an expensive bottle of wine " I brought it back from France especially for you "

Never again

[cuppa]

Hi Severn


If you decide to build the model yourself you may find it something of a challenge as a first model boat build.


Obviously I have no idea what your skill level is but as a relative novice myself i would not attempt such a build without first gaining experience on a couple of less demanding builds in order to gain experience  in techniques and a handle on how to work with the various materials and adhesives involved.

[radiojoe]

I think because model makers enjoy there hobby so much there is a tendency to think you would enjoy making a model just as much for someone else, about 20 odd years ago I built a Hirobo RC helicopter, a work colleague wanted him and his teenage son to build one so bought a kit then realised neither of them had a clue how to do it, knowing I had built one, I was asked if I would like to build it for them, I thought who is doing who a favour here, there was no mention of remuneration apart from "there'll be a drink in it for you" and I didn't even drink, I declined his kind offer, politely of course. 

[Severn]

Ok then so if I was to build a small boat what would you people recommend as a good starting point?

[Liverbudgie2]

http://www.mountfleetmodels.co.uk/therange.html

I'd recommend either the River Queen, Sealight or Britannia.

LB

[kinmel]

Anything from Model Slipway

[Severn]

Ok I looked on both sites I like the Aziz tug on slipway also the Al Khubar tug which might be easier than Aziz I have got some model experience but only on railways.I never worked with brass components before so what tools would I need to get these kits off to a good start sorry for being a pain in the rear 😁

[Shipmate60]

As a starter look on ebay for cheap tool sets such as pliers set, needle file set, Archimedes drill and small bits etc.
Find out what you use most then replace with high quality replacements.


Bob