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Captain Povey

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Pool cross contamination
« on: August 04, 2014, 03:52:49 pm »

Hi All, This may have been discussed some time ago but I can't find the posts so I will risk asking the question again. Last Sunday the club took the opportunity to sail at a new venue. One of our members asked if the members present had taken the precaution of cleaning their hulls before sailing to avoid the potential carry over of weed and other problems from the previous pond/pool. I guess it would be good practice to do this anyway. Any input or experience of members gratefully received. Thanks, Graham.
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Re: Pool cross contamination
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2014, 07:19:01 pm »

Hmmm, Do ducks, geese, swans and birds wash their bums before landing in another pool? :o
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Re: Pool cross contamination
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2014, 07:24:31 pm »

It was discussed a couple of times as far back as 2008.
Someone was chased away from a pond by the local Park Ranger.
The Ranger stated that there was an issue with invasive species.
The modeler was incredulous that his boat could bring something into a pond.

We reversed that idea to him, in that, perhaps the Ranger was worried the model might
"TAKE" something out of the pond that they were trying to contain.

The example I gave was regarding the Zebra Mussel issue in the Midwestern United States.
There is a huge containment problem, and there are worries that full size boats being trailered
over the mountains may carry the species Westward. Is this a problem form boat modelers?

Not a large problem no, but consider a cooling system in a model boat.
That 3mm diameter tubing that carries water from the pond into the model around
the motor, and then overboard.

Mussel larve, known as Veligers, range in size from 70-200 microns (μm).

 In an 3mm" diameter cooling line, 46cm long, with the largest veligers pack in like sardines, that
 would be about 16,000-17,000 mussel larva in a model boat.


Is it possible that a model could transport something biological between ponds? YES
Is it likely to happen, not really, but should there be concerns? Yes.

I took my boat to the Netherlands and sailed everywhere, including the parks, canals and rivers.
When I returned, I wiped the bottom of my model down with bleach, and used a syringe loaded
with bleach water to inject my fire monitor tubing with bleach water, and let it sit for a day.

Better to be safe than find issues down the road. :-))

I think ducks and geese should be required to bath and shower before entering ponds.
At least walk through a sanitation tube to wash off their feet. Never know where those
fowl birds have been swimming.  %)

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(Rats,... Ian beat me to the punch...)
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Re: Pool cross contamination
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2014, 10:17:09 pm »

I cross the US/Canadian border frequently to go model boating.  On returning the U. S. Border Patrol has signs prohibiting vessels carrying "invasive species."  My boats have no cooling water lines, but I wonder if the BP would object to the scum the hulls sometimes collect. 
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Re: Pool cross contamination
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2014, 10:20:23 pm »

how about water up the prop shaft ?.

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Re: Pool cross contamination
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2014, 11:04:13 pm »

Water up the propshaft?  Minuscule amount, if any.  Stuffing tubes are kept full of grease.  But who knows what the nit pickers might pick at.   :police:
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Re: Pool cross contamination
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2014, 08:00:37 am »

 8) What about the fishermen they go from one lake to another,their gear is used all over the place so that might be one sauce of contamination, there again Ducks, Geese and other wild life move around from one lake to another so I think it would be very hard to stop it,so if there is a problem we are only a small part of it and although we take precautions if might be infective no answer to this one I am afraid,Ray.   
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Re: Pool cross contamination
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2014, 08:50:54 am »

There are more polluting things:
Research for gas by fragmentation of rocks.

But that that is not annoying, that yields money

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Re: Pool cross contamination
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2014, 10:15:14 am »

Thank you all for your input. There are some very valid points there in all of them. I think I will take view that it would be seen as good practice to clean a hull after sailing. Cheers, Graham
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