Topic: Custom Built RC Ferry (Read 10223 times)

Deckie01 · « **on:** August 22, 2015, 03:46:01 pm »

I was wondering if anyone knows of anyone who would be able to build a 1:100 scale RC Ferry who is based in the UK.

Thanks

Big Ada · « **Reply #1 on:** August 22, 2015, 05:34:05 pm »

Why, have you got £1,000 to spare?.

Netleyned · « **Reply #2 on:** August 22, 2015, 05:54:22 pm »

Quote from: Big Ada on August 22, 2015, 05:34:05 pm

Why, have you got £1,000 to spare?.

That would be cheap

Ned

cos918 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 22, 2015, 08:50:07 pm »

Quote from: Big Ada on August 22, 2015, 05:34:05 pm

Why, have you got £1,000 to spare?.

times that by 15 and you are starting to get near the real cost

john

Deckie01 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 22, 2015, 10:10:03 pm »

Quote from: Big Ada on August 22, 2015, 05:34:05 pm

Why, have you got £1,000 to spare?.

I have a bit of money to spare!

Unsinkable 2 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 22, 2015, 10:18:38 pm »

Blast, I don't live in the UK or I might be up for that .... U2

Deckie01 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 22, 2015, 10:22:29 pm »

Quote from: Unsinkable 2 on August 22, 2015, 10:18:38 pm

Blast, I don't live in the UK or I might be up for that .... U2

Where do you live??

Unsinkable 2 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 22, 2015, 11:14:55 pm »

France..... But after looking on YouTube I think you may need someone with more time on their hands than me. I hope you find someone within budget U2

Deckie01 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 23, 2015, 10:03:43 am »

Quote from: Unsinkable 2 on August 22, 2015, 11:14:55 pm

France..... But after looking on YouTube I think you may need someone with more time on their hands than me. I hope you find someone within budget U2

Do you know anyone who would be willing to do it??

Jerry Hill · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2015, 10:44:42 am »

Perhaps a specification would help folk answer your question, an idea of the target is needed to be able to look into it.

Deckie01 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 23, 2015, 10:51:06 am »

Quote from: Jerry Hill on August 23, 2015, 10:44:42 am

Perhaps a specification would help folk answer your question, an idea of the target is needed to be able to look into it.

I was looking for a scale of 1/100 (or maybe a more appropriate one if someone can suggest one) of a ferry which is 78 metres LOA and is 13 metres on the beam.

Jerry Hill · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2015, 11:17:05 am »

Ok, answer the following, which from a modellers perspective is what's needed:

Is there an existing ferry you want modelled?
Do you have any drawings of same?
Describe the level of detail and scale accuracy required, is this a 'standoff' model that just needs to look right out on the water, or does it need to be highly detailed?
What are you expecting to be operational. Propulsion is a given, but what about bow/stern doors, ramps, lighting, ballast, sound?
Do you have any equipment for the project, or is this everything from the ground up?
When do you want it to be delivered?

To put this in perspective, the company I work for has detailed models made of motor yachts for various display reasons, they are around £10,000 each and that's a static model with lots of the hard work taken out due to cnc machining of the major parts using original CAD 3D models.

polobeer · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2015, 03:44:11 pm »

The Holy Grail of RC model boats... the car ferry. In my dreams I'd like a Stena Lines ferry with all the knobs and whistles.

cos918 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 23, 2015, 06:42:43 pm »

Quote from: HJF66 on August 23, 2015, 10:51:06 am

I was looking for a scale of 1/100 (or maybe a more appropriate one if someone can suggest one) of a ferry which is 78 metres LOA and is 13 metres on the beam.

This might be up you path .
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,28467.0.html

john

malcolmfrary · « **Reply #14 on:** August 24, 2015, 10:13:05 am »

From the details given, it will be about 31" long and 5 and a bit inches beam. On a working model, not a huge amount of scope for a lot of working features.
Is it to be working or display only? This can make a huge difference.
Are there CAD friendly drawings? If drawings have to be made from the ground up, this is a huge effort in itself. For a hobbyist who will enjoy the results for years to come, just a part of the hobby. For a custom builder, time equates to effort and expense.
Does the subject have a name? There might already be one out there.

Brian60 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 24, 2015, 12:51:06 pm »

Take a look at this in progress Brittany Ferries ship being built to 1/100th scale...

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,48951.0.html

Have a look at the start date and try and extrapolate the time/materials used so far. It will give you some idea of how much you are going to have to spend.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,48951.0.html

carlmt · « **Reply #16 on:** August 24, 2015, 09:50:12 pm »

Quote from: polobeer on August 23, 2015, 03:44:11 pm

The Holy Grail of RC model boats... the car ferry. In my dreams I'd like a Stena Lines ferry with all the knobs and whistles.

Holy Grail you say? Well, it could be closer than you think!!!!

We will be exhibiting at Deans Marine Open Weekend with our first offering if you are in the area. Not a Stena Line ferry, but an R/C ferry nonetheless.
Carl
Linkspan Models

carlmt · « **Reply #17 on:** August 24, 2015, 10:13:05 pm »

Quote from: HJF66 on August 22, 2015, 03:46:01 pm

I was wondering if anyone knows of anyone who would be able to build a 1:100 scale RC Ferry who is based in the UK.

Thanks

A few questions if I may?

1. What is the prototype ferry you are looking to have built (name?)
2. Is she a modern ferry or a classic?
3. Deep sea or inland?
4. How deep are your pockets?
5. Do you have a deadline that you would need it finished by?

Reasons for asking:-
1. It would help to know what we would be up against - are there published drawings / details of the ferry you have in mind? If not, then research sufficient to design the model is going to take a very long time. Plus, actually designing the model in the first place can take the best part of a year. You say you want it R/C therefore it has to be designed to suit - it cannot just be built as a static model would.

2. A modern ferry (say, later than year 2000) would make a very difficult model to sail well except indoor with no wind. A 'classic' ferry has less topsides therefore less windage, so would sail better. We at Linkspan Models would not consider producing a kit of a ferry newer than the Pride of Kent / Pride of Canterbury / European Seaway class of P&O in Dover. We consider that these prototypes would be the limit. Even our forthcoming Norland kit is pushing the boundaries somewhat, but then she has a large, beamy, hull with plenty of draught which will compensate for her high topsides. More modern ferries just do not have the draught to ensure stability in model form.

3. Again, this question relates to the prototype and its complexity.

4. We at Linkspan Models have spent over 4 years researching, designing and developing our first kit of the Townsend Thoresen Free Enterprise V ferry at 1:96. It is due for release this Autumn. That has been 4 years of my time (admittedly my spare time) which, if converted to punds, shillings and pence, equate to a tidy sum. Were you to commission someone to build you a model - from scratch, not a kit - then you would have to factor in this timeframe. Without knowing exactly the ship you are after, it would be difficult to put a price to the venture, but I would wager that you wouldn't get much change from £10,000. Most modellers build their models for the love of it - cost is not the factor. Were they to sell their pride and joy, the price could never reflect the time and effort put in to the model. However, if you wish to commission someone to build the model for you - and here we are NOT talking about a kit - then the price you are going to have to pay will have to reflect the time and effort that modeller will have to put in to produce a professional model. Even at £10,000, I may be light. When I used to commission architectural models for my company years ago it was not unknown for us to pay over £20,000.

5. This, too, will impact upon the price you will have to pay. If you are in no hurry, then someone can produce the model for you in their spare time (bear in mind, this could still take a couple of years!!). If you are in a hurry, then that person will have to work full-time on the model and the 'wages' of that person will have to be paid. Have you seen the cost of some of the hand built locomotives that are commission built by a very talented chap in the UK?

I really don't want to dampen your enthusiasm for having an R/C model of a ferry, but what you are asking can really cost you! If you are serious about this venture, PM me some details and I will see if your ideas are feasible in the first instance.

Carl
Linkspan Models

david48 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 24, 2015, 11:03:57 pm »

The costing is all a bit scary , it hardly cost that to build a real puffer in the very early days , I dare not add all the receipts up for my Fairmount . This one off custom building would appear to be a none starter these days

Unsinkable 2 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:29:14 am »

I just get that feeling (I don't know why) that HJF66 just fancies a certain ferry (we still haven't been told which) and likes the idea of having a model of it to sail at some local place.
The fact he is new on the forum and wants someone to make it for him suggests he is new to modelling, (how am I doing so far?)
All this talk of tens of thousands of pounds (although true in some cases) is very off putting.
Now had Mr HJF66 just fancied a ferry in general I would suggest opting for one of the superb kits soon to be on offer by CARIMT. (Linkspan models)
I am sure that there will be a modler here n the forum who lives in the UK who would put one of these together for him.
In my original post I was thinking along the lines of A, he supplies me with a model kit including resin paint and glue (or a payment to buy it). B, supplies all the servos and motors etc. and C, pays a build fee on completion. I imagine (from what CARIMT has said) that this could be within the realms of possibility for around £2000
BUT THEN..... we hear it's a certain kind of boat and there may not be a kit etc so the price would increase and the level of detail may drop. OR we get back to the off putting prices mentioned earlier of producing a scratch build certain ferry with high detail ooooh.. I hope he comes back and let's us know...... U2

Arrow5 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 25, 2015, 07:48:09 am »

If the quest is for a model to use with R/C cars or trucks perhaps a Cromarty Queen type vessel would suffice.

malcolmfrary · « **Reply #21 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:21:11 pm »

Quote from: Arrow5 on August 25, 2015, 07:48:09 am

If the quest is for a model to use with R/C cars or trucks perhaps a Cromarty Queen type vessel would suffice.

The original intent was mentioned in post #10, being a 1:100 scale model of a full size 78m vessel. At 1:100 scale I doubt that working vehicles could be incorporated. A 780mm long model doesn't leave a lot of room for working extras, especially in a type that typically (without knowing the specific vessel) has a lot of upstairs and not a lot of downstairs. Something of the size, but 3/4 the length of, the 1948 King Orry?

Unsinkable 2 · « **Reply #22 on:** August 25, 2015, 09:35:10 pm »

Apologies to Carl it's Carlmt not CARIMT ...... As you can probably now tell my eyes are not what they used to be and suffice to say I think my models look better than what they probably do

. U2

Arrow5 · « **Reply #23 on:** August 25, 2015, 10:02:20 pm »

Sorry I missed post #10, just had the picture handy. Any other details of what the gent wants ?

carlmt · « **Reply #24 on:** August 25, 2015, 10:02:47 pm »

Quote from: Unsinkable 2 on August 25, 2015, 09:35:10 pm

Apologies to Carl it's Carlmt not CARIMT ...... As you can probably now tell my eyes are not what they used to be and suffice to say I think my models look better than what they probably do . U2

No worries U2......I hadn't noticed it meself!!!! My appointment at Specsavers has been booked

On the subject of a 78m ferry at 1:100 scale..........the original ship must be quite small itself then - cant place an original in my library of those dimensions.

I do wish the OP would enlighten us as to the ship he (or she?) wants modelled................ The smallest ferry we are looking at producing in 1:96 is the former Thoresen vessel "Viking I" which used to sail out of Southampton to Le Havre in the early 60's. She was 99m long, 17.4m beam and with a draught of 4.2m. Not much top hamper so should sail well.

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