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Tug-Kenny

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Creole Queen . Sternwheeler
« on: August 08, 2016, 11:14:03 am »


The next model scratch-build has been decided.   %)

I am going for the Sternwheeler paddle boat called the Creole Queen and have already started my research.   There is a kit manufactured by Dumas in America, but I want to completely make it myself.

To this end I have been researching  (with the help of Mr Google)  all the pictures and data that I can find, on the Web.  I have accumulated a mass of data so far, and it's getting very interesting. I will still need help from you folks as there are lots of things yet to be found out.

Has anyone ever built this model ?  Does anyone have a copy of any plans please.  It's not for direct copying but to get the proportions correct. Length versus breadth type of thing. It's very difficult to calculate against a 3D picture.

I have even been on a trip Via  'YouTube',  on board and have seen so many details that my head hurts.   :}

Here is a picture of the real ship.   Building this one should keep me occupied for a while.

ken

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Re: Creole Queen . Sternwheeler
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2016, 11:50:13 am »

An interesting project and something a bit different. I'll just tag along and wish you good luck with your endeavours Kenny. :-))

Regards,

Ray.
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Re: Creole Queen . Sternwheeler
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2016, 12:41:02 pm »

Hi Kenny.  My friend has the kit but he has just moved and it's buried! Of note though, by tower bridge there was a paddle steamer there at one point. Not the same as the Creole but interesting enough to visit . Once my friend can get access to his kits I will have a measure up for you unless some else has instant access.
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Re: Creole Queen . Sternwheeler
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2016, 01:07:47 pm »

Kenny


I hope you are going to be including a working Calliope on the upper deck.  {-) {-)
I have actually been on her, but I don't think I have any useful photos.


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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2016, 03:09:01 pm »

Have you checked out the 'Paddleducks' site ?
Lots of info there.
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Re: Creole Queen . Sternwheeler
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2016, 08:05:10 pm »

An interesting project and something a bit different. I'll just tag along and wish you good luck with your endeavours Kenny. :-))

Regards,

Ray.

@  Ray.    Thank you Ray.  Happy to have you on board.

@  Klunk.  Would really appreciate the  'odd'    measurement  when the time comes.

@Barrie.  Would you believe it.  I already have plans for a music machine to go on board.  It would really add to the ambience. I have photo's by the bucketful.

@  mrlownotes.  I am a member of Paddleducks and have gone through everything from day one. It was very helpful information indeed, but no build blogs or intimate deatails.



Thank to everyone for your support.  I shall try and keep you all updated if my body will allow it.  I am at present going through  'Prostrate problems' and it's not getting any better. Hospital next Monday for further surveys and consultation.  It's only my model making that drives me on and fills my days. I have to go to bed at 9 because I get up during the night around 8 times and it's knocking me back a bit.

Cheers for now

ken



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Re: Creole Queen . Sternwheeler
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2016, 08:14:45 pm »

Well look after yourself Ken. I wish you a speedy route to remission and hope that your Stern wheeler will be a tonic to you. I see there is quite a bit of cast iron fretwork which could be etched to save time and effort!
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Re: Creole Queen . Sternwheeler
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2016, 10:54:33 pm »

I have the creole Queen kit in the "to build one day" stash over in Finland.  I will ask the wife to drag it out and take some pics
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2016, 09:52:04 am »


Thank you  'B'.   :}   Tis the fretwork section I fancy.  Nice bit of time consuming stuff that should take a while of careful fret sawing.  The pleasure of doing it all by hand.

oooh Essex  !!!   I'd love to take you up on your offer.  It will be exactly the sort of info that I can work on.  I need the finer details for the measurements more so than the direct copying, as I mentioned earlier.  If your 'good lady' could take some photographs with a ruler alongside, then that would be all I need to get it all in balance. So kind of you to come forward.
ps ....  your DX7 is still working wonderful after all these years.  Thank you again.

As the intended model is over 2 foot long, I went to the 'yard' yesterday for a sheet of plywood ready for all those decks. I won't be cutting until I know the exact sizes required.

Now my printer has run out of ink, what with all that printing I've been doing.  Isn't it great to have a hobby.  %%

Cheers

ken


 
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2016, 09:47:20 pm »

Yeah!
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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2016, 11:02:59 pm »

Thank you  'B'.   :}   Tis the fretwork section I fancy.  Nice bit of time consuming stuff that should take a while of careful fret sawing.  The pleasure of doing it all by hand.

oooh Essex  !!!   I'd love to take you up on your offer.  It will be exactly the sort of info that I can work on.  I need the finer details for the measurements more so than the direct copying, as I mentioned earlier.  If your 'good lady' could take some photographs with a ruler alongside, then that would be all I need to get it all in balance. So kind of you to come forward.
ps ....  your DX7 is still working wonderful after all these years.  Thank you again.

As the intended model is over 2 foot long, I went to the 'yard' yesterday for a sheet of plywood ready for all those decks. I won't be cutting until I know the exact sizes required.

Now my printer has run out of ink, what with all that printing I've been doing.  Isn't it great to have a hobby.  %%

Cheers

ken


I have gone one better, spoke to the wife about it today and she's going to Post it over.
Happy to send you over the kit for reference purposes :)
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Re: Creole Queen . Sternwheeler
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2016, 09:59:23 am »


Hi Garrie,

I am GOBSMACKED.     


What can I say but a big   THANK YOU.  It's so kind of you to go through all that trouble for me.  I shall return the kit when I have taken appropriate proportional  measurements.

I have started with cardboard cut-outs to line things up and it's trickier than you would imagine, but a load of fun to get involved with.  I have been watching ALL the YouTube films  (and there's a few of em !!) regarding the real ship and it looks like a real pretty ship.  The plan is to have the steam organ sounding as well. I have PM'd you.

All the best

ken
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2016, 12:22:16 pm »


Hi Garrie,

I am GOBSMACKED.     


What can I say but a big   THANK YOU.  It's so kind of you to go through all that trouble for me.  I shall return the kit when I have taken appropriate proportional  measurements.

I have started with cardboard cut-outs to line things up and it's trickier than you would imagine, but a load of fun to get involved with.  I have been watching ALL the YouTube films  (and there's a few of em !!) regarding the real ship and it looks like a real pretty ship.  The plan is to have the steam organ sounding as well. I have PM'd you.

All the best

ken


Well it has sat on the shelf over there for nigh on 6 years  :embarrassed:  so I don't think I'll miss it  {-)


I'll let you know when it lands in the UK
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Re: Creole Queen . Sternwheeler
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2016, 06:15:29 pm »

What's the bollard pull of its main towing winch??  :-)) {-) {-)

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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2016, 11:00:17 am »


I'm back, after my Hospital visits.  Seems I'm now booked in for the big 'op' in February next year. All I have to do is live that long.

Back to the modelling.  I am still researching the actual boat and it gets more interesting by the day.  Some wonderful details on YouTube.  My printer has run out of colour ink where I've been over enthusiastic.   %)

@Brian.   Not sure what you mean.   :-)

Cheers

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Re: Creole Queen . Sternwheeler
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2016, 10:53:33 pm »

Well, don't do owt daft in the mean time and have lots of fun model making and trucking.
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2016, 08:31:20 pm »


Here we go ...........................   :}

By calculating sizes from the pictures we have come up with some measurements to allow us to lay down the basic shape.

I have cut out the frames and glued them together. 



 
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2016, 08:38:25 pm »

The keel was glued to a complete sheet of 3mm plywood and a sheet was cut and glued across the curving top.  This will be the main deck which will float close to the Mississippi river.   {-)

It's all clamped to produce a gentle curve from Bow to Stern.

The plan is to cut some strips of timber to plank along the side in a gentle curve and sand smooth.



 
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2016, 08:40:17 pm »


After removing the clamps we have the basic shape.

 
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2016, 08:46:39 pm »

Blimey.....half way there already! %%


I am going to enjoy watching this build. Good on you Kenny.
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2016, 08:49:45 pm »


Hiya Footski.   Nice to hear from you after all these years.

Yes I'm proceeding with my axe and hammers.  This one looks a delicate challenge as I get up to the side walls.  I'm already thinking about the smoke machine and pipe organ extras.     {-)       {-)

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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2016, 11:06:41 pm »

That's a great start Ken. It is so shallow it feels wrong!
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2016, 07:37:03 am »

Hiya Footski.   Nice to hear from you after all these years.

Yes I'm proceeding with my axe and hammers.  This one looks a delicate challenge as I get up to the side walls.  I'm already thinking about the smoke machine and pipe organ extras.     {-)       {-)

ken
I have been lurking in the background Ken.  :-))
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2016, 10:01:26 am »

That's a great start Ken. It is so shallow it feels wrong!

Believe me, I wrestled with this one.    :}   The original  'Queen'  is certainly low when sailing and is built this way to navigate the shallow river.

I thought about balance and tipping problems and decided to make it very heavy and flat bottomed.  It is actually slightly higher than the original craft but I'm counting on the extra weights of the thick timber and batteries and smoke generator full of water to bring her down to her marks.   %)

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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2016, 10:16:47 pm »

Good oh. I hope your fellow club members do not recreate the many large rivers in the US with submerged trees and other nasties that caught unfortunate skippers navigating!
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