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[Tid 65]

hi,does any one know of 24 hour and endurance records set by rc boat.longest distance in 24 hour and longest running time on one set of batteries with changing them.if you can help with info thanks

[Arrow5]

There used to be an endurance run somewhere in the Midlands. They did change batteries I think.  National model pqwerboat associations must know or perhaps the Guiness people? Battery for radio but a couple of gallons of petrol or glow fuel might be better than same weight of batteries ???  Are you planning an attempt ?  I know of a quiet 20 mile long freshwater loch  (with only one monster).

[Dixie212]

There is a record for distance traveled in 24 hours, I know about this one as I was involved during the initial design stages.

From the Guinness book of records:-
"A 1:32 scale model of the Type 42 Destroyer HMS Gloucester, built by Francis Macnaughton and piloted by Mike Watts and Paul Ellison (all UK), travelled a distance of 195.678 km (121.589 miles) in a 24-hour period at Bude Model Boat Festival, Cornwall, from 4–5 May 2002."

[Ron Rees]

Hi All,


The first model boat to cross the English Channel was Miss Ee Dee (From Electronic Developments Co, an early model R/C british company who also did the 4. 1/2 cc diesel engine that powered it.)


The crossing took place on 6th September 1951 and they landed at Calais. The boat was plywood and hardwood, 5 feet long by 2 feet beam, with a single channel Regen valve radio operating a motor driven rudder. As far as I know the two tinplate fuel tanks in the boat did not need refilling!!
I'm not sure how long it took them though.


Mental!!!......There's an original newsreel film clip on YouTube somewhere.


Cheers..........Ron Rees.

[craggle]

Found this one on Youtube, no commentary though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUWFVpUto0E


Craig.

[Arrow5]

I wonder if it was on Mayhem that a gentleman from Scandinavia asked about the ED channel crossing boat.   He was planning a sea crossing between Sweden or Denmark and wanted to know if plans were available.   It was a few years ago.  Anyone remember ?

[John W E]

hi there

found this link when I was doing a search

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,38347.msg383183.html#msg383183

I know this topic has been covered several times before - cos my model of the Leeds Castle was originally built to take part in this event.

John

[Allnightin]

I would suggest reading this thread as well:

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,43925.50.html

The HMS Gloucester record is the still the one at the GWR website and also appeared in the last annual book (after 13 years of waiting!).  I don't know what happened about the AT Boathouse team claim after the actual event - perhaps Guinness didn't accept the records that taken for some reason - but Alan and co would need to say where things got to.  I missed anything more on the 2014 Loch Ness attempt - did it happen?

I have commented on the rules and regs in the other threads but  my feeling when dealing with Guinness in 2002 was that they didn't have much of a grasp of the background to the record runs before mine and I doubt things have got better since!

If anyone wants to take up the challenge again, do try talking to Alan first but I still have the documentation from my attempt and can provide info as required

Francis Macnaughton

[Arrow5]

Hello Francis, The Loch Ness sail was by a lifeboat enthusiast group but I don't think they were attempting a record. I don't know what the outcome was but they did start at Fort Augustus in slightly rough water.  I believe they did do the length 20miles or so, it was a charity thing for the RNLI  I believe.  Someone will give us the story no doubt.                     

[Arrow5]

OOPS just read the link to the A-Team who were going to do a Loch Ness run. Don't know what happened there but a group (3 ?) biggish scale RNLI style models did do  a  Loch Ness run a few years ago. I`m about 50 miles from the loch.

[Tid 65]

Thanks to all for your help but if there is any more info or ideas please let me know

[Arrow5]

Hi Tid, are you planning something ?

[Tid 65]

Hi arrow 5,well I was just getting some ideas and info to see what's been done and what could be done,the distance in 24 hours is one thing but to be honest setting a distance/endurance record without changing the batteries would be be good,only to check the boat for normal running checks now and again.

[Allnightin]

Going back to the original question,  I have now dug out the correspondence I had from David Holland in 2003 and as far as I can make out the record for the non-stop 24 hour record is still that set by David and his son Peter on 15/16 August 1992 with the model trawler Margaret H and a distance of 33.45 miles.  This is fully written up by David in May/June 1993 Radio Control Boat Modeller and I am fairly sure it appeared in one of the subsequent Guinness annual books but I don't have a copy myself.  David reckoned my own run in 2002 with HMS Gloucester with battery changes could have used more battery capacity than the 32 Ah I actually used as long as the max voltage was 24 volts but the non-stop record must stay within 32 Ah.  In my dealings with Guinness they always said I had to stay within 32 Ah and I suspect they effectively merged the two records in their documentation.

I don't know of any record for a longer time than 24 hours continuous running.

The AT Boatyard run in 2013 at 162.1 miles is written up in MMI March 2014 and seems a good basis to take a claim to GWR but Alan Noble or a team mate would need to update on whether GWR ever considered their claim.

[Tid 65]

Hi alnightin,thanks for that but did the trawler use only one battery,and hms glouster had battery changes,so did type 45 and they did it over a period of days to do it.im thinking just about endurance/distance with one set of batteries none stop.

[Arrow5]

How about other records than endurance.  Speed for instance, point to point etc. The tethered hydros are very fast. (see "on the wire website")  I Wonder how far north or south has a model has operated ?    Or if a model boat has been to the poles .   Red Oktober might be setting some sort of record in it`s travels.  An autonomous "model" has made it to Hawaii from the U.S. and I believe there is another heading from Australia to New Zealand.  I wonder what speed that rocket hydro on YouTube was doing before it hit the bank.  Was it the A-team model that did a Thames run ?

[Tid 65]

Hi arrow yes Ateam did the Thames with type 45,thought about Loch Ness but can get very choppy so would need a good type of boat to do it but would be good to do.

[Tid 65]

Am I getting a few people thinking about this subject again,it's about time a new record was tried I think?

[Arrow5]

...another thought.  Coast to Coast using the canals , Caledonian or  Forth and Clyde. Something at Ellesmere , out and back on the "Shroppie" (Shropshire Union) during the major event . Good publicity along the route.  Ideal for an excuse to take "Her-inside" on a tranquil UK hol instead of the Spanish sunburn`n booze areas.

[Tid 65]

Great idea but lots of money involved,thinking of something with not much outlay and to raise money for charity at the same time of doing a record.

[Arrow5]

thought about Loch Ness but can get very choppy so would need a good type of boat to do it but would be good to do.

  It can also be like a sheet of glass.   This is the problem with record breaking of any type, you cant just say "we will do it on the 14th". You have to sit around waiting on conditions being suitable.  The "lifeboat guys" hit it on a poor day for their run on Loch Ness.

[Arrow5]

 Not record attempt but , a member of the South Atlantic Medal Association is looking for a fleet of models of ships that were involved in the Falklands War. An anniversary event(s) next year would feature the models. I can put anyone who is interested in touch with the person planning this.  Could be a "record" of sorts in there somewhere.

[tony52]

In Vic Smeed's  1966 book, Power Model Boats, the section on Paddle Steamers quotes "it is on record that a 24" model of only 3" beam crossed Brothers Water in the Lake District in a total time of only 55 minutes running". The model was Vic's design, Royal Falcon (myhobbystore MM381).
Doesn't strictly meet the criteria as the achievement was by a free running, not r/c model.
I was considering repeating this challenge some years ago and had various ideas, e.g. on board GPS or camera and using a drone to record the crossing. Unfortunately I now struggle with distance driving and have abandoned the idea.

http://www.myhobbystore.co.uk/product/16802/royal-falcon-paddle-ship-mm381-plan

[Allnightin]

Hi alnightin,thanks for that but did the trawler use only one battery,and hms glouster had battery changes,so did type 45 and they did it over a period of days to do it.im thinking just about endurance/distance with one set of batteries none stop.

The Margaret H used just the one battery in the run that appears to still be the record but you would need to check all the annual Guinness books since 1993 since they don't list that one on their website.

With modern batteries it shouldn't be too difficult to run for further and/or longer but if this was to go in the Guinness register you would need to agree the rules with them beforehand and they might not be interested in establishing a different record anyway - they seem to have effectively merged the two previous records as it is.

David Holland mentioned in his letter to me a claim by a Belgian modeller who had put lots of 9V batteries together to give 96V then regulated this down to 24V but Guinness had ruled that one out.  SO you can see that there needs to be some sort of framework to work within if it is to be an official record.    If getting recognised isn't the priority, you can set your own rules for a local event and see what works best at the time.

[TailUK]

Found this one on Youtube, no commentary though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUWFVpUto0E


Craig.

Good bit of film but the guy with tin whistle should be taken out and shot.  He playing the Eton Boating Song and Eton are losing three - nil