Topic: FRIGHTENING EXPERIENCE last night! (Read 20615 times)

raflaunches · « **Reply #25 on:** April 06, 2018, 05:56:12 pm »

I believe that all the P-8’s are in the USA at the moment with the RAF undergoing air testing there, I know as many of my Scottish techie friends are wanting to get on it but won’t until 2019/20. There are none in the UK at the moment so it’s more than likely that if it was a RAF aircraft it’s going to be a Voyager. And trust me they are loud and produce glowing jet exhausts in the dark!

raflaunches · « **Reply #26 on:** April 06, 2018, 06:01:16 pm »

The other potential aircraft it could be but it depends on how far the engines appeared to be apart would be a Sentinel but it’s the size of a small business jet.

Neil · « **Reply #27 on:** April 06, 2018, 06:04:29 pm »

then I beg to ask......why are the "authorities" saying it was two Typhoons on a night exercise in emergency diversion tactics................as I said earlier........you can't fool all the people all the time.......

and people don't like being lied to by the "authorities"..

if I disappear overnight guys............you'll probably find me at Guantanamo, lol

ballastanksian · « **Reply #28 on:** April 06, 2018, 08:11:35 pm »

Given that a Voyager carries a load of fuel, if I were the RAF, I would not advertise the fact that a flying fuel station was flying around low because of the presumed danger of crashing in a residential area even with no payload. Your fellow residents would kick up a s##t storm over it, which could cause trouble with future missions and deployments in the local area.

raflaunches · « **Reply #29 on:** April 06, 2018, 08:25:38 pm »

Thinking about how we operate it is conceivable that there were Typhoons there being refuelled by the Voyager when they were diverted as part of the training exercise. The Typhoon’s can be pretty quiet when they need to be and landing they are surprisingly quiet but an airliner type aircraft are noisy no matter what.
Perhaps the authorities thought that people heard the Tyhoons which most people if they saw them flying low in the daytime would automatically question why they were doing so whilst an airliner is something that most perhaps wouldn’t. I don’t know but I’ve only seen the what the papers have said other than Neil’s experience on the forum.

F Flintstone · « **Reply #30 on:** April 07, 2018, 09:43:48 am »

If you really want to feel the earth move by an aircraft then it has to be a "Vulcan" I have been to a few air shows at RAF Finningley, on the non public Sunday the "Vulcan" would put on a special display, a fantastic sound and sight, your teeth rattled and your stomach vibrated

Plastic - RIP · « **Reply #31 on:** April 07, 2018, 09:50:49 am »

A Voyager is an Airbus A330 - that is a very, very large plane - much bigger than a 737 or private jet. Flying low would be tricky and very dangerous to be refuelling a pair of Typhoons.

gingyer · « **Reply #32 on:** April 07, 2018, 10:40:24 am »

Quote from: F Flintstone on April 07, 2018, 09:43:48 am

If you really want to feel the earth move by an aircraft then it has to be a "Vulcan" I have been to a few air shows at RAF Finningley, on the non public Sunday the "Vulcan" would put on a special display, a fantastic sound and sight, your teeth rattled and your stomach vibrated

I saw a "special" Vulcan display and it was something I will NEVER forget.... the car alarms were going off, tiles came off the roof and it was GREAT

McGherkin · « **Reply #33 on:** April 07, 2018, 01:49:04 pm »

Quote from: F Flintstone on April 07, 2018, 09:43:48 am

If you really want to feel the earth move by an aircraft then it has to be a "Vulcan" I have been to a few air shows at RAF Finningley, on the non public Sunday the "Vulcan" would put on a special display, a fantastic sound and sight, your teeth rattled and your stomach vibrated

Vulcans are earth shatteringly loud, yep. Really sad that none fly any more.

I've had the pleasure of being one of the rescue boats in the ditching area on a Typhoon show, which also happens to be directly underneath the show area. When a Typhoon, at low altitude, pitches up, points the exhausts straight at you, and engages full afterburner into a fast climb.... You remember it! That was breathtakingly loud.

In reply to some other posts, I discounted the Voyager since it has no need to be at low altitude and as Plastic said is far too unwieldy to do so anyway. A P8 isn't really a low flyer like the P3 was but it's not as big as the others. Discounted the Sentinel because of the engine placement, plus they work at high altitudes anyway.

ballastanksian · « **Reply #34 on:** April 07, 2018, 03:04:27 pm »

A friend recalled watching a Lightening doing a vertical climb at Farnbourough (I think) years ago.

dougal99 · « **Reply #35 on:** April 07, 2018, 06:50:07 pm »

Farnborough in the fifties/early sixties

V force scramble, that was a sight for sore ears!!

Colin Bishop · « **Reply #36 on:** April 07, 2018, 06:53:34 pm »

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A friend recalled watching a Lightening doing a vertical climb at Farnbourough (I think) years ago.
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Saw that at Coltishall - early 70s.

Colin

Netleyned · « **Reply #37 on:** April 07, 2018, 06:58:27 pm »

Nearly every day If you stood at crash gate at RAF Binbrook

Ned

raflaunches · « **Reply #38 on:** April 07, 2018, 07:42:55 pm »

I think some of you may not understand that I wasn’t referring to the aircraft I mentioned (Voyager and Typhoons) carrying out refuelling at low altitude, that would happen at 20,000ft and presumably they then got the training exercise command to carry out an emergency diversion. I’ve sat in the back of a Voyager on many occasion and they can manoeuvre when needed!
I think it was a Voyager if it was a RAF aircraft that Neil saw.

FsASTSyd1 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 08, 2018, 07:59:22 am »

V force scramble, that was a sight for sore ears!!

Normally four aircraft at each dispersal airfield but due to runway maintenance at their normal site, the airfield I was at once received two sets of four Vulcans on exercise. Now seeing that lot going off must be one of, especially my life's, sight and sound to remember for all time.

FsASTSyd1 · « **Reply #40 on:** April 08, 2018, 08:00:12 am »

Now whats happened

dougal99 · « **Reply #41 on:** April 08, 2018, 08:20:20 am »

Here's Fastsyd1's post

force scramble, that was a sight for sore ears!!
Normally four aircraft at each dispersal airfield but due to runway maintenance at their normal site, the airfield I was at once received two sets of four Vulcans on exercise. Now seeing that lot going off must be one of, especially my life’s, sight and sound to remember for all time.

Tug Fanatic · « **Reply #42 on:** April 08, 2018, 09:13:46 am »

Noise depends on how far you are from the source. Modern safety rules tend to put us ever further from what we are watching. As a kid I remember the 3 or 4 V bomber scramble that started each Farnborough air show. I also remember it being loud and shaking my chest cavity but not as loud as the Lightning RAF aerobatic team that flew one year. Their take off was impressive! They flew a lot lower and over the crowd in those days & I still remember one approaching from behind on full reheat that I did not see coming.

Not the loudest however. That accolade goes to 2 US aircraft. If you want real noise sit behind the departure runway (not the enclosure but on the road) at Fairford on the Monday departure day after the air tattoo. Noisiest single aircraft winner is a B1B. Second was an F22 that was coming back from his display at Farnborough and decided to give the enthusiasts a display. He did a normal landing approach but the he hit reheat just after he had gone over us at 50-100 feet to do a vertical climb out. I have never heard a noise like it!

BrianB6 · « **Reply #43 on:** April 08, 2018, 10:00:04 am »

I can still remember shaking like a jelly when 3 Harriers landed at the same time on the other side of Farnborough airfield about 1970

Plastic - RIP · « **Reply #44 on:** April 08, 2018, 10:13:03 am »

I remember being a small child in 1970 when they had a Harrier land at our local park in Oldham (there was a small RAF air display there) - they set up a 100' diameter circle of low wire fencing and just landed it there. I was standing with my family right at the fence and the plane landed with its left wingtip just a few feet from us.
Unbelievably noisy.
I remember at the same event the parachute display team (Red Devils?) came down in formation but one of them crashed into the metal swings and broke his legs.

The days of Health & Safety.

unbuiltnautilus · « **Reply #45 on:** April 08, 2018, 07:07:35 pm »

Concorde departing Farnborough Air Show, rotating on full afterburner, not 70 yards from us. You give us B-1B, I raise you Concorde........

Tug Fanatic · « **Reply #46 on:** April 08, 2018, 09:29:17 pm »

Quote from: unbuiltnautilus on April 08, 2018, 07:07:35 pm

Concorde departing Farnborough Air Show, rotating on full afterburner, not 70 yards from us. You give us B-1B, I raise you Concorde........

The Concorde motor is higher thrust but having heard both from about the same distance I think that the B1B was louder. Trouble is they were not heard at the same place nor at the same time so ??????????????????????

Neither could be described as quiet!

Tug Fanatic · « **Reply #47 on:** April 08, 2018, 09:37:25 pm »

The one that I haven't heard which is supposed to be vastly noisy in the Russian Bear bomber. The contra rotating props are apparently very impressive

Jerry C · « **Reply #48 on:** April 09, 2018, 02:10:05 am »

Got winched off Indom by Chinook in approaches to Mare Harbour. A quick lap round the bay and plopped back onboard. That’s noisy.
Jerry.

F Flintstone · « **Reply #49 on:** April 09, 2018, 07:12:09 am »

"Vulcan" and "Concorde" both powered by RR "Olympus" engines, different variants, but basically the same, I like to look at "Concorde" as a passenger carrying "Vulcan".

FF

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