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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #175 on: August 29, 2019, 08:46:11 pm »

It may be noticeable I hope? how enjoyable this one of many MBD kits is to build.
The freedom to put your own way of doing things into play is for me most satisfying.
Sharing ideas and cherry picking the options you favour is bliss.
So many things to make from scratch is great for the grey cells  :-)


A question ! What is the best process to attach this deck to this hull, meaning adhesive and preparation?
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« Reply #176 on: August 29, 2019, 09:41:07 pm »

Andy, I hope you dont think this is a dumb question, Do you solder the washers in place on the deck or do you mark the stanchions, then solder off the model? Im just thinking if you solder in place, how do you protect the deck from the heat?
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #177 on: August 29, 2019, 09:43:03 pm »

No not dumb at all. In place Chris. GRP will withstand a very high temperature, it just scorches the primer which is why I don't do top coats before all stanchions are made.
Keep the questions coming


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Another reason for not silver soldering and plenty strong enough. We can all agree to disagree  :-))  pick and choose


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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #178 on: August 29, 2019, 09:55:46 pm »

Its been said before, and ill say it again, a work of art, particularly this photograph showing the railings inverted :-))
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #179 on: August 29, 2019, 09:57:49 pm »

and you know what, that use of tube around the gob eye looks very purposeful and not out of place in any way  :-))
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #180 on: August 29, 2019, 09:59:35 pm »

Well thank you Chris. It's really not that difficult if done methodically. I hope the pictures convey more method along the way than words can
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« Reply #181 on: August 29, 2019, 10:00:52 pm »

and you know what, that use of tube around the gob eye looks very purposeful and not out of place in any way  :-))


 %%  Thanks I agree, there is so much going on the eye isn't drawn to it  :-))  Still more detail to add there when I figure out how
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #182 on: August 29, 2019, 10:11:43 pm »

Andy can I ask is that a bender screwed to the bench for bending railings?
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« Reply #183 on: August 29, 2019, 10:14:40 pm »

Andy can I ask is that a bender screwed to the bench for bending railings?
That was the intention but I found it less easy than my hands and pliers and I should have binned it by now.
Hand and eye coordination are much better with 3D structures  :-))
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #184 on: August 29, 2019, 10:21:03 pm »

Haha I remember bending the railings around the bow of my Maggie M I used a new toilet roll soft so wouldn't kink but solid enough to  bend round work well for the radius I needed.
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« Reply #185 on: August 29, 2019, 10:24:07 pm »

That’s one in the bank for when I do my Maggie  :-))
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« Reply #186 on: August 29, 2019, 11:13:54 pm »

Nowt wrong with bending jigs if you know how to use one. Have seen guys make inside out knots upside down in seconds with them but you have to learn the skill of using it. I could never get it right either, just stick to pliers and bits of anything else to help. Does the same job for me. LoL. Nice result.
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #187 on: August 30, 2019, 02:04:16 pm »

 :-))


Now looking at the strakes and Kim's idea I'm trying to expand on that.








Cut diagonal with 12" hacksaw









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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #188 on: August 30, 2019, 04:54:35 pm »

I was struggling for fixings then had the idea to modify M2 dome head socket screws



Once happy with the fit I masked up and applied 5 min resin and tightened the nuts





Cleaned up with Isopropanol for a nice smooth fillet



Ready for 2mm styrene infill

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« Reply #189 on: August 30, 2019, 06:43:32 pm »

EDIT. The bottom of the strake is 12mm up from the edge
 






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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #190 on: August 30, 2019, 10:11:53 pm »

I’m a little deflated as my mate Charlie on Facebook made his from recycled car registration plate for nothing  :-))  think outside the box  8)
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« Reply #191 on: August 31, 2019, 11:14:03 pm »

I’ve just had cause to search online for Halfords grey textured spray paint.
This no longer comes up, only in green. I over paint it anyway but I found this a surprise
I will be raiding stores for shelf stock
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« Reply #192 on: September 01, 2019, 04:31:25 pm »

Firstly I am happy with the strakes. Now finished in Tamiya FINE metal primer.



Next I started on the keel following Kim's lead and filled in with 30 min resin and 175gm 25mm glass cloth using 3 lengths on the deeper section
I'm also following good advice and have started removing the gel coat from the hull to deck flange





I've used my orbital sander to take the bulk off to the line.






Going back to this picture. The Graupner brass rectangular box section that I used for the strakes is the perfect dimensions fo the keel. So I plan to remove more GRP to accommodate this which will then allow the keel extension to be a true continuation and much more solid than a bolt on afterthought.
The true keel tapers narrower as it meets the start of the bow curve where the hole is for the recovery ropes
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #193 on: September 01, 2019, 06:32:23 pm »

I want to share a product with you. I've been using Z poxy previously but as I had an order in with hobby king I decided to try these two made in USA resins.
Absolutely first class product.
This chart shows which product is good for what usage.


Still pricey though







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« Reply #195 on: September 03, 2019, 10:51:03 pm »

Just getting interesting and I have to go on holiday  :((





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« Reply #196 on: September 06, 2019, 07:50:09 pm »

I’ve just had cause to search online for Halfords grey textured spray paint.
This no longer comes up, only in green. I over paint it anyway but I found this a surprise
I will be raiding stores for shelf stock


I think I might just survive  {-)  @ £4 a tin clearance  :-)
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #198 on: September 16, 2019, 06:59:45 pm »

I've never felt so much desire to be at home. Being retired now I've little need to be on holiday but I have to keep SWMBO happy.
Currently at Wick and intending to head towards Skye on Wednesday. Likely slowly return via Glasgow Apple stores


I've been thinking of the deck attachment and my mind is veering away from epoxy in favour of Everbuild stixall type adhesive, most of the deck will be held by the railings and stanchions with 3.5mm nuts.
The joint is ultimately hidden by the fenders so if a suitable adhesive for those is found that is non destructive to remove I can as a last resort remove the deck with a good blade.
Fender adhesive recommendations invited.


OceanWorks are posting me the rest of my Jet drive parts to arrive as I arrive home
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Re: ModelsbyDesign Shannon
« Reply #199 on: September 17, 2019, 03:06:36 pm »

Hi Andy.


I received my drives a week or so ago. Is there a difference in what I have and what you are receiving? Just be interested to know.


Regards


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