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Re: Thames Umpires Launch
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2019, 02:39:07 pm »

I have purchased a 40 inch long yacht hull that I want to build into a Thames Umpires Launch, or something similar. I have purchased the motor and prop shaft but not the rudder. Can anybody advise me as to what size and type of rudder I would need for such a long model. It is my intention to post a description and photos of the build as it progresses. I have only built from kits before, (Lady Wooes tug and Boston Typhoon), so this could turn out to be a breathtaking display of incompetence.
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Re: Thames Umpires Launch
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2019, 03:44:27 pm »

The rudder would appear to be totally cantilevered out from the transom, lozenge shaped with the top level with water level .
  In size I would estimate no more than 500x 500 mm , I guess manouverability low on the priority scale.   Owners must always be nervous about  others coming too close astern.







As a point of curiosity , the Saunders built boats appear to have a concave "tunnel" shape bottom from  around the prop shaft back to the stern . Presume this was to iron out the boats wake and also allow the prop to run shallower.




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Re: Thames Umpires Launch
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2019, 06:27:08 pm »

I am surprised that the prop is below the bottom of the hull. Would that not make it vulnerable to damage.
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Re: Thames Umpires Launch
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2019, 07:19:58 pm »

I am surprised that the prop is below the bottom of the hull. Would that not make it vulnerable to damage.


 Very ! It's a specific boat for a specific purpose ; charging at high speed down the centre of a rowing course.  If you watch the universities boat race on the box you will notice that after the race the launches do not approach the banks but stay well out into the river . It's not just the prop, the rudder is equally vulnerable.
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Re: Thames Umpires Launch
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2019, 07:22:39 pm »

Yes I see what you mean. They shouldn’t come to any harm on the Thames.

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Re: Thames Umpires Launch
« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2019, 02:17:42 pm »

I have just had my motor, prop shaft and propeller delivered and will study the hull carefully to see how best to install everything.
I am sure that there is no other way that will prevent the propeller from protruding below the bottom of the hull, but the photos that you kindly posted show that to be the case anyway.
As you mention, the full size boats are treated with care for this very reason.
I will post some photos as I progress.
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Re: Thames Umpires Launch
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2019, 02:53:17 pm »

I have started work on my Umpires Launch and will post a few photos a little later. I have received the mahogany strips that I will be using on the front and rear decks but am not sure how I will be able to get such a glossy varnish finish like the full size boats. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
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Re: Thames Umpires Launch
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2019, 06:55:43 pm »

The best varnish finish that I have ever achieved was on a full size boat, a fibreglass sailing cruiser. The boat was a cancelled order that we put to one side as our boat show display boat, as such it was cobbled together from various items that were lying about, items like rubbing strakes and hand rails come in pairs and, when one is damaged, the other tended to be put on a rack as a spare. My partner and I sorted through this big stack of mahogany items and found some nice pairs which had been quietly seasoning for years.
Once fitted we were extremely lucky because our very small boat was ready weeks before the larger boats being fitted out on the other side of the factory.
Our last job every night for weeks was to rub down all the woodwork with 400 grade wet and dry (dry) and apply a water-thin coat of traditional (International brand) yacht varnish.
The resulting shine was breathtaking, like glass, and there was a very satisfying side to the situation, The team working on the larger show boat were a bit behind and the weeks of polishing (we compounded and wax-polished the hull as well) on our little jewel were driving the chargehand of the other team crazy. Of course we smiled sweetly and told him that, as we were so far ahead, we were more than happy to help bring his boat up to scratch, he exploded, told us to shove our assistance, etc. all good fun.
So, a long winded way to say, patience, dry, well-seasoned timber, good quality abrasives, good quality brushes, or careful spraying, buy enough finish to complete the job to avoid different batches, more patience, and check out SailorGreg's build log of his Dumas 1930 runabout on the forum. Good luck.
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Re: Thames Umpires Launch
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2019, 07:49:00 pm »

Gosh thanks for a very interesting and informative response to my enquiry. I have glued a few mahogany strips with black cotton as caulking onto a piece of ply as a tester for the varnish finish before attempting it on my model. I am not at the planking stage yet just thinking ahead.
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