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Sonparc

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Futaba Sail Winch
« on: August 21, 2019, 03:31:32 pm »

Please, can anyone help ?


I have a Futaba FP-S110 sail winch which is jammed and I would really like instructions for it.I cannot find this on the internet so If anyone has instructions I would be happy to pay costs for a copy.
Thanks in anticipation !
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Re: Futaba Sail Winch
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2019, 03:50:48 pm »

I can't help with instructions but was just wondering if a spray with wd40 or other similar product might free up the stoppage?
...just thinking out loud really.


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Re: Futaba Sail Winch
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2019, 07:01:15 pm »

Noooooo! there could be a number of reasons its seized.
first, can you rotate it with no power?
if not, take the winch off the top, there are 4 screws on the bottom, undo them and gently pry the top off. be careful at this stage. this is where the gears are. carefully check all the gears, to ensure they are meshing. they should, looking from the side, be horizontal. if one is on the slant, this is where the problem lies.
now, if there is still no obvious problem, checking for swarf, dust, dirt etc. then if you confident, disassemble the gears, making sure you remember the order they come apart in. check each gear tooth for damage of if one or several is missing.
once the gears are disassembled,  plug the servo back in and see if the servo motor works. if it doesn't, then unless you nan get a similar motor, the servo could be a write off. if it does work, and you have not encountered any damage, reassemble the servo, using a light to medium grease, NO OIL, CERTAINLY NOT WD40. I use lithium grease from B and Q. check at all stages that everything is level and non binding.
hopefully, although not conclusive, this should hive you a little insight into repairing a servo. check youtube, plenty of videos of how to strip and replace gears in servos.
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Re: Futaba Sail Winch
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2019, 09:36:49 pm »

Hi Klunk, I take it by your post above, that wd40 would cause some sort of damage to a servo. I've never used it in this sort of thing, it was just the first thing I thought of with the problem being jamming (seized)?
So, what is it that makes wd40 a no-no please?
nb: I shudder at the thought of giving bad advice  :o


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Re: Futaba Sail Winch
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2019, 10:54:17 pm »

wd 40 is not a solution. first and always first is to gently move it with no power.. the gears inside already have a grease on them. wd40 will not help and could penetrate to the pcb and could damage it. best thing is to gently take it all apart.  I had a mg995 servo do exactly what yours did, seized. took it apart, checked all the gears reassembled and greased and it is now fitted in a north wind 36
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Re: Futaba Sail Winch
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2019, 10:55:16 pm »

ps 1 gear was out of alignment causing it to seize
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Re: Futaba Sail Winch
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2019, 10:56:26 pm »

ps if you put in your bio where you ste there might be someone near you who could help
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Re: Futaba Sail Winch
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2019, 12:06:45 am »

wd40 will not help and could penetrate to the pcb and could damage it.




Yep, that makes perfect sense  :-))


Cheers Klunk.


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Re: Futaba Sail Winch
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2019, 09:00:52 am »

Sorry, but I feel the need to put the record straight.  WD40 - the clue is in the name - 'WD' stands for Water Displacement, as it is designed for use as a de-watering fluid and is perfectly safe to use on unpowered electrical devices, including circuit boards.  That being said, I wouldn't advocate its use on circuit boards that don't need drying out, as there are better products for that use, such as 'Corrosion X'.  WD40 is also often thought of as a penetrating oil for freeing up seized parts - it's not!  Again, there are better products for that purpose.


OP - the other advice you've been given is perfectly sound - it needs to be dismantled to find what's causing the jam-up.
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Re: Futaba Sail Winch
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2019, 05:36:34 pm »

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I am renovating an old yacht,not built by me,so I am somewhat in the dark.Yesterday I spent 3 hours getting the sail winch out of the boat,there were 10 assorted nuts and bolts and wood screws holding it in. Needless to say most in very inaccessible places.
Having taken the top off the servo the cord had come out of the pulley and wrapped it self round the shaft. I strongly suspect that the servo is burnt out but I will follow Klunks advice and try to strip it down for a further look.
Plan B will be to replace it with a long arm sail servo if it will fit.


Best Regards to all
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