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[SimonCornes]

This boat ran at 101mph in the 2023 SAW event, i didn't change anything and it will run for 3 mins straight making passes at these speeds

I'm 6ft 4" for reference...

Incredible boats! Yesterday I looked at the MPBA website and specifically at the Electra section. I therefore discovered that 'Electra' as such is now dead but that 'Northern Amp Draggers' is alive and well and operating on two lakes - one private and one public - in the North East so I assume that you may be a member of that? They do seem to have a very sensible set of rules for fast boat operations including risk assessments (which I guess is a common thing in society for so many sports as well as business). I know that fast boats slow down very quickly when you cut the power but the greatest risk is when someone who is not experienced and with the right muscle memory, or who is distracted, just does the wrong thing and the boat leaves the water. Very unusual but it can happen. That's the whole point of risk assessment - can a fast moving boat leave the confines of the lake and does the person operating such a boat have adequate experience? If the answer is 'yes' to the first and/or 'no' to the second then the Club has to manage the risk. I wonder how many clubs have rules that include that? 

[likeomg]

Hi Simon,


The lakes that NADS are using are way too small. i have raced there but it's way slower boats and oval's


I only know of two other fast electric boats in the UK similar to what i have. It's also not just general members of the public its other boaters that can be the problem like you say, i need to be focused on what im doing even connecting the lipos, im running 14s / side (60v+) whilst answering a million questions is quite off putting - Not to mention each of these boats to replace would run at over $10k.


Basically i only run them in waters that are over 300m long, minimal persons (so i usually run them at sunrise when conditions are best)


Even the UK SAW event i ran into issues, the course is setup in a way we run towards a bank so i was having to get out of the power a lot earlier to ensure i'd slow down sufficiently, they will travel 50+ meters easy after cutting the power.


If you look here when running left to right its straight into the bank

[SimonCornes]

I can see from what you say that you operate these boats more like full sized power boats and that safety is your number one priority plus you can't afford to lose one because you've been distracted. Definitely the extreme end of radio control fast electric boating but a fascinating effort - which is no doubt why people keep asking you questions at the bank side! You aught to go on a tour of local model boat clubs so that their members can see your machines in a controlled environment? I know that some of my Club colleagues would be very keen to have a look and to listen to what you had to say and maybe video to watch! Unfortunately you are probably too far away to make that a possibility ! 

[likeomg]

Hi


I work in the maritime industry so quite well informed and have been around boats my whole life.


I do have a few videos but typically i run very early in the morning and usually alone so hard to film


I will try and upload some vids. I don't mind to bring them to the big shows when my rotation allows,


This is the boat that's now paitned as "miss england" alongside my rescue boat zodiac, fun fact the Cat has more horsepower....





This is my fleet of Cats, missing two. one is paitned in the class 1 negotiator scheme and the other is RAW

[likeomg]

For anyone more interested - This is the SAW event held at carr mill dam once a year (unsure if this year will happen due to poor turn out last year)


https://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,70458.msg764074.html#msg764074



However i always do my best to run the big stuff, i will concentrate more on the intermediate classes this year (lower cell count)


If anyone fancys a day out its a good event and some attendance would be much appreciated by the gent who organizes it.
& If there is enough interest i will bring the 1.9m 100mph+ boat


The white boat is going with me to germany to race this year along with 2/3 others and try compete at the Munich event first week of October.

[SimonCornes]

That is a very impressive collection of very hot boats! I hope that your event gets some support as it could be food for thought for those who operate lesser machines?
As for my particular issue I think that we are gaping to carry out risk assessments, not just for fast electrics but for steam boats, yachts and scale because its not the intention to 'have a go' at those who like fast electric operating and I have a steam boat so its only reasonable to inflict the same 'pain' on myself as I would do to other club members. I think this sort of thing has too bed safety focused and maybe other model boat clubs should do the same thing and take a hard look at themselves and how well their organisation stacks up in modern society? Once done its also a valuable tool to be able to show to local authorities - who probably think that we do such things already !

[KitS]

I'm not quite sure what to put on a Risk Assessment form for a model yacht. Maybe a one word answer?


'None'.............

[kinmel]

That is a very impressive collection of very hot boats! I hope that your event gets some support as it could be food for thought for those who operate lesser machines?
As for my particular issue I think that we are gaping to carry out risk assessments, not just for fast electrics but for steam boats, yachts and scale because its not the intention to 'have a go' at those who like fast electric operating and I have a steam boat so its only reasonable to inflict the same 'pain' on myself as I would do to other club members. I think this sort of thing has too bed safety focused and maybe other model boat clubs should do the same thing and take a hard look at themselves and how well their organisation stacks up in modern society? Once done its also a valuable tool to be able to show to local authorities - who probably think that we do such things already !

Colwyn Bay M.B.C. hold a Licence to sail on the large pond in our local park, the Licence requires us to carry out a detailed risk assessment annually and submit it before the end of January each year.   Once the first one was prepared, it is a simple task to update it as changes occur. 


Our Club's other two sections ( R/C model vehicle and drones ) have their own versions of H&S Risk Assessments.

[tigertiger]

I'm not quite sure what to put on a Risk Assessment form for a model yacht. Maybe a one word answer?


'None'.............

Off the top of my head, I can think of a few..
Old RC TX with telescopic antennas that can take your eye out. Cure, a ping pong ball, or practice golf ball,  to cap the end of the antenna.
Masts, bowsprits and booms can be a hazard.
Auxiliary motors, and props.
If servos are powered by Lithium batteries.
Boat stands, trip hazard.
Pond side risks common to all boat users
etc. etc.

[SimonCornes]

Colwyn Bay M.B.C. hold a Licence to sail on the large pond in our local park, the Licence requires us to carry out a detailed risk assessment annually and submit it before the end of January each year.   Once the first one was prepared, it is a simple task to update it as changes occur. 


Our Club's other two sections ( R/C model vehicle and drones ) have their own versions of H&S Risk Assessments.

Is there any chance you could let me have a copy of those please? I’ll message you and let you have my email address.
Thank you

[kinmel]

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