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[Pat-K]

Good Morning Shipmates


Help please - could anyone please assist me with the the lighting on a Royal Navy Steam Pinnace as shown in the picture, what I need to know is what would the location have been of the stern light ? Also would the lights at the time been oil fired or would they have been DC electric run off a steam generator - enquiring so the I get the right kind of light for my model.


Thanking you in anticipation of you help




Pat

[Colin Bishop]

Steam Pinnace 199 preserved at Portsmouth does not appear to have any navigation lights fitted. I have close ups of the boat in No 4 Boathouse and there are also plenty of photos online, none of which show any obvious lamps.

Is it possible that oil lamps would only have been rigged as and when needed?

Colin

[mrlownotes]

https://www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk/register/40/steam-pinnace-199
There does not appear to be any lights in the above link. Click on the pics to zoom in.

[mikew]

Hi Pat


A couple of pictures that might help from the drawing that I am using whilst making the Pinnace on a Kingston Moulding g/f hull with a Cheddar steam plant. The drawing/plan was provided by KM with the hull. Name box appears to be an electric bulb, the funnel and nav lights I lean towards lamps ??.


Cheers
Mike

[John W E]

hi there,


I am unsure if this will be of any help, but, if you Google the image of the Capital ship which the Pinnace was allocated to, you may get some information there.   However, also, the late gentleman Bryan Young made a model of one of these and I am sure there may be some images of his model on this Forum.    Plus, in one of the model shipwright magazines there is a plan/write up for a steam pinnace.   These all may be of some help to yourself regarding lighting. 


Personally feeling of the age of these vessels it would have been more than likely oil lamps - as room available on these vessels was limited.   Not large enough to cater for a steam generator.


John

[Colin Bishop]

Name box appears to be an electric bulb, the funnel and nav lights I lean towards lamps ??.

The navigation lamps are clearly of the oil fired type with the 'chimney'.

Colin

[Pat-K]

Thank you everyone for your input

[John W E]

Hi there,


I thought the original drawings looked familiar and, I believe Robin Whitmarsh 'Kingston Mouldings' may have copied these drawings from the legend Norman Ough - because they are very similar to the ones that Norman drew.   Also, on reading the text that belongs with the drawing in the book "The life and Ship Models of Norman Ough" very good book for those seriously interested in Modelling warships and their accessories.   A little quote from the book here - about the drawing of a 50 ft steam picket boat 'on the cabin top which was also covered in 'Corticene' and with polished brass hand rails, was a long box of varnished teak and glass sides and ends and with electric lights inside.  On the side glasses the name of the ship to which the picket boat belonged was shown in plain block capitals, white on a black background with the initial letter of her name on the ends.  The design of these name boxes varied slightly and they may have been made and fitted by the ship's carpenter'.


John