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james_biscuit

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first Build?
« on: December 25, 2007, 05:06:31 pm »

Hey there everyone.
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james_biscuit

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Re: first Build?
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2007, 05:10:42 pm »

My rosegarth model tug was delivered safe and sound by farther christmas this morning and I was just wondering wether the people on the forum could recommend a basic tool kit to enable me to put the beauty together? and any hints and tips would be fantastic.

many thanks in anticipation.

James. x 
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Re: first Build?
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2007, 06:58:39 pm »

I would go for the basics first.
A steel rule, selection of Knives, small razor saw, small set square,
Selection of files (big and small), David's plane, selection of drills,
hand drill (small hand powered).
I have missed out tons of stuff I have as I can't think what I use till
I need it but this will get you started.

Colin
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Re: first Build?
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2007, 08:30:09 pm »

It would be an idea to send for the Squires catalogue. At over 450 pages this will give you a good idea as to what is available specialist to the modeler.

Tele 01243-842424 and its free.

First tip read the instructions, then when you have read them, read them again. I had some experience with model gliders and with my first boat kit I went blinding in a mistake I shall not repeat.

Good luck with the boat James you are in for an interesting time and don't forget the chaps on this site have been there got the `T` shirt etc they will always help.

Yours Colin H.
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Re: first Build?
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2007, 01:27:16 am »

Hi James, there is another thread on here as well if you do a search. It will help a lot.

My first tools were, as follows. They are also my most used.

Jap Saw, If you cannot find a razor saw then look for a small Jap saw, or a mini-hacksaw at a push.
Mini mitre box. This will help cutting square.
Stanley knife I have found to be easier to use than the knives with the snap off blades.
Steel rulers. I have a 6inch (hardly used) 12 inch (used a lot) 18 inch (used the most).
Steel tape measure (the ones that roll up)
Calculator-you will probably add a few of you own bits so this is useful for scaling down.
Jeweler's screw driver set.
Pliers for bending wire. A cheap set of the small ones does me perfect, has long nose as well.
Needle files.
Mini vice, I have one of those that clamps to the table and the vice can be moved through any angle.
Sanding block - don't use your fingers.
G clamps - I use 6" ones to hold a board down onto the table. Smaller ones for the some gluing.
Spring clamps, to hold bits together when gluing. Buy the multi packs.

Old margarine tubs to hold bits in that I need immediately - saves them rolling off the table.
Old bits of card packaging to mix epoxy on -o don't throw away those bits of card, keep a box next to the bench.
Old boxes, small ones to to keep loose bits of wood and bits you find lying around. So if you got a new toaster for Xmas, keep the box.

All of these tools can be found in the hardware stores or B&Q, some of these like the pliers and screw drivers can be found in the bargain bins.

As Colin says, read the instructions. Sometimes they don't make sense, but if you have questions do ask on here.

Enjoy your build, don't loose to much sleep pondering build problems. And have a good 2008
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Re: first Build?
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2007, 09:04:19 am »

I  have a Digital Caliper 4"/100mm and I use it a lot its handy to see what size wood is and if you are making cut-out for windows you can get them similar, you don't have to look at all the display just the first few numbers to them near enough. checking the size of small drills and rods plastic/brass  and if you have one that has worn out due to being drooped for the hundred and fiftieth time on to the floor they make great marking gauges and scriber's, they can be bought from about £12 the likes of Chronos and small block plane they are magic for planning the edge of  Plasicard, gets it nice and square for gluing.

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Re: first Build?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2007, 10:38:24 am »

Start with as LITTLE as you can manage, cos EVEN after 50years of playing in the various disciplines you will Allways come up with the NEED for "one of those." One thing not mentioned is a building/cutting board with a RAISED edge, in an attempt to TRY to stop bits from dropping into the black hole that surrounds all of our work areas, once dropped, gone forever. 
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Re: first Build?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2007, 10:48:29 am »

One thing not mentioned is a building/cutting board with a RAISED edge, in an attempt to TRY to stop bits from dropping into the black hole that surrounds all of our work areas, once dropped, gone forever. 

I keep meaning to buy on of these  :D
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Re: first Build?
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2007, 10:06:26 pm »

I agree with tiger (mainly). I have been building from scratch for a few years now and I think I can honestly say that the most used tools are 1) the Stanley knife. 2)the good 12" steel ruler. 3) a good light to shine on what you are doing.
From then on the list becomes endless! You will collect tools and gizmos till you forget you have them...and then forget how to use them. Stick with what you NEED at any particular time, if you really need (rather than "want") something then buy it. In about a year you will have a shedload of stuff...and then you will want a lathe...then a milling machine...then a new shed...then a new house.. Should I go on? And it all starts with a Stanley knife!  Good luck and long may your interest in whatever you want to build keep alive. Cheers. BY.
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Re: first Build?
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2007, 10:16:02 pm »

Further to what Brian has said if you are going to take one piece of advice take this one

BUY CHEAP BUY TWICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Been there done that had the t shirt,I started off years ago as a mechanic with cheap that will do tools soon learnt my lesson and bought the best and forgot about the rest so to speak.I have allways used the best money can buy,OK fair enough I am the first to admit that my tool kit is worht in the excess of £20k but it was not bought all at once.Think before you buy and once bought look after the tools cos they will look after you,end of sermon O0 O0

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Re: first Build?
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2007, 11:07:36 pm »

HI GUYS......i will second what stavros has said.......after nearly 35 years in the motor trade i did exactly the same by starting off with cheap tools.....BIG MISTAKE !   as all the skin thats missing of my knuckles etc will testify.......allways....allways   ....buy the best you can afford and you will not go far wrong.


                   regards.....bob.
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tubby tomo

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Re: first Build?
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2007, 03:43:54 pm »

hi all what circlip said about dropping bits is one thing we all do and if your building for the first and you drop a tiny bit its gone for about three months >>:-(
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Philipsparker

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Re: first Build?
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2007, 06:45:37 pm »

I'd disagree about buying cheap always being a bad thing. Sometimes you buy a tool that seems like a good idea and then hardly use it (cough, Resistance Soldering Iron). If you buy cheap then you've not wasted much money.

However if you wear a cheap tool out then go an buy a really good one 'cos it's obviously going to be useful.

There are exceptions such as cutting tools and spanners/sockets but I bet for much of our work the cheapos do the job.

Oh, and do get good and cheap files. Use the cheap ones on whitemetal castings as it will do them no favours. Save the good ones for jobs needing accuracy.

And Squires are brilliant. You must get the catalogue. O0

Hope this helps.
Phil
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