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Technical, Techniques, Hints, and Tips => Engineering Techniques and Materials. => Topic started by: Garabaldy on June 03, 2008, 01:07:18 pm

Title: Plasticard Filler
Post by: Garabaldy on June 03, 2008, 01:07:18 pm
I have read on other posts that to make this stuff all you do is mix your plasticard shavings with a solvent.  Does it matter which solvent?  Im sure i read some where that you can mix it with acetone and that will give you a filler?

I just want to make sure before i use it on some of my work and ruin it!


Cheers,  Gary
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: DickyD on June 03, 2008, 02:09:27 pm
I use Plasticweld for fixing and for making filler for Plasticard.  O0
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: Bryan Young on June 03, 2008, 02:56:10 pm
I use Plasticweld for fixing and for making filler for Plasticard.  O0
I think that is the "standard" way of doing it...but I have often wondered why the filler seems to set much harder than the Plasticard it is "filling" Any ideas? BY.
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: John W E on June 03, 2008, 03:10:04 pm
hello

Would it not be easier, less time consuming and less messy - just to and buy a tube of Revell Plasto Modelling Putty Filler or the equivalent made by Humbrol, which is already a solvent based plastic filler  :) all the plastic kit builders seem to use this stuff and I myself have been using it for years and years without problems, hey it beats the hell out of sitting putting chips of plastic into solvent  :P :P

aye
john e
bluebird
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: Garabaldy on June 03, 2008, 03:11:15 pm
I use Plasticweld for fixing and for making filler for Plasticard.  O0

http://buy.maplin.co.uk/Free_UK_Delivery/Plastic_Weld_46010/Plastic_Weld_46010.htm

is that the stuff?
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: FullLeatherJacket on June 03, 2008, 03:23:54 pm
Maplins?? Nah! Try this if you can't get pukka Plastic Weld:
http://www.slatersplastikard.com/7mm%20Products/slaters%20mekpak.htm
Personally I use Squadron Models Putty which I obtain from Westbourne.
Suit yourself.

FLJ

(Wonder why BY needs to use filler.............. ::))
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: DickyD on June 03, 2008, 03:25:28 pm
 Plastic Weld
Instantly tacky. Sets in minutes - bonds permanently overnight.
Economical to use. Special formulation dissolves a thin layer of each surface to be joined.
It evaporates quickly and forms a welded joint; one as strong as the surrounding plastic.
Apply with a small brush or blunted syringe-type applicator. Capillary action will spread it the length and breadth of the joint for a continuous solid weld.
Plastic Weld works on most dissimilar Styrene, Butryrate, ABS and Acrylic applications.

£2.65 

http://www.westbourne-models.com/erol.html

http://www.amodelworld.co.uk/index.htm
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: Garabaldy on June 03, 2008, 07:28:49 pm
just ordered 2 bottles!

i started sticking together some plasticard last night with gamesworkshop poly cement.  is that stuff any use? it seems ok but i have only done a very small amount of work so far
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: RipSlider on June 03, 2008, 07:41:12 pm
GW poly cement not the best stuff for plasticard - the stuff in the brown bottle above is very good indeed. GW's stuff doesn't make strong joints.

However, GW *do* sell Green Stuff, which is awesome for filling gaps in plasticard. Far better than any other filler I've found.


Tip - go to a plumbers merchants for Green Stuff - 5m rolls of it for £8.

Steve
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: Stavros on June 03, 2008, 10:20:10 pm
I use the plastic pipe solvent cleaner comes in a proper tin that you cant knock over and is much cheaper than plastic weld and works just as well

Stavros
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: DavieTait on June 03, 2008, 10:28:13 pm
GW glue is expensive rubbish , should know i've got 8 different 40k armies in the house lol.

Plastic weld is the best stuff , I use Revell plastic glue ( the blue bottle with the needle applicator ) which is similar in that once its set you have to chop it to get it to part again

As for superglue I use  Loctite with the brush applicator but will need to get hold of some slower setting thick CA soon
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: funtimefrankie on June 19, 2008, 08:24:08 am
I find , with the brown bottle above, I spill more than i use.  ::) Hold the bottle with blue tack or in a block of pollystryrene.
Or decant half into another bottle so you dont loose as much!!!
It's a pity the bottles aren't like the old ink bottles...squatter.
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: Guy Bagley on June 19, 2008, 09:16:00 am
you can buy MEK neat from specialist chemical suppliers, this is the basis of the brown bottle solvents... its alot cheaper that way,  buy it by the litre !!!

just be careful with it.....its nasty stuff - and if you have any cuts or wounds on your hands then keep it away, its like vinegar in a cut !!!!
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: sinjon on June 19, 2008, 05:57:41 pm
Those tall easy to knock over bottles - I have a small wood turning lathe, made a frustum of a cone and bored out a bottle sized hole, easy peasy, if anyone would like one free (Mayhem members + p&p) mail me.
Hang on, we have nearly 2000 members, could that be the rashest statement ever, perhaps +£1

Colin
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: sinjon on June 19, 2008, 06:03:00 pm
Actually, I am of to France and Spain for a couple of weeks, but in two weeks time, I could be back on the lathe.
Happy to help.

Colin
Title: Re: Plasticard Filler
Post by: DickyD on June 19, 2008, 06:06:30 pm
Small flat cardboard box with a round hole cut in the lid to sit the bottle in. 2 minute job. O0