Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Navy - Military - Battleships: => Topic started by: Robert Davies on June 05, 2008, 06:32:00 pm
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I thought I'd give this mini-scale malarkey a go.
Take one Revell 1/72 S-Boat kit, some time, brass rod and wire, an esc, a 5" M4 propshaft, a 1" prop, paint 'n' sundries etc etc etc.....
Wander out between thunderstorms to the club's lake down the road.... and....
Do some shakedown running.
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot1.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot2.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot3.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot4.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot5.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot6.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot7.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot8.jpg)
More on the build (much) later! :)
-Rob
ps Armament to finish, details to be picked out, shading, washes and dry-brushing to taste.
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Looking good Rob! O0
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any chance of some INTERNAL photos of running gear etc, thinking of making one myself
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any chance of some INTERNAL photos of running gear etc, thinking of making one myself
Probably tomorrow, or the weekend - I can feel a cracking migraine coming on :(
-Rob
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how big is the boat in ft and inches please to old for all this rubbish cent thanks regiment
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1' 7"
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Where did you get it from? my local shop has no sign of it yet :(
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The Revell 1/72 S-Boat? It's been out for ages?!
Are you sure you're not waiting for the same one I, and many others are - the Italeri S-100 in 1:35, which if it's anywhere near as good as the ELCO PT boat will be fabulous. The grapevine suggests 'late Summer' for the Italeri.
-Rob
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A few more, outside and in...
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot01.jpg)
In the pic above you can see more of the armament has been fitted - Still more to go! Fearsome beast this!
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot02.jpg)
Here you can see how I've cut the deck to enable access, at the leading edge of the cut I've added a plasticard lip to waterproof the lead joint, you can also see where I sliced off a hatch midway for access and added combing to keep it in place.
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot03.jpg)
Elec-ma-trickery runs on four 2900mah AA batteries. The motor is a slot car motor (a Fly EVO 2 if you're interested) nourished by an mTroniks 10 amp ESC. The receiver is a 2.4ghz Futaba R606FS, oh! and the rudder is shifted by a v small HiTec servo - the rudder arm is a piece of 80 thou plasticard with an RC plane's wheel boss superglued to the pivot.
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot04.jpg)
Here we see the drive end - I've tried diddy little props in the past - water doesn't 'scale' - all I ended up with was froth and no speed - So bite me! if you don't like it! :) It's an M4 Propshaft with a one inch (25mm) prop - The rudder's home made, a bit of brass tube with a bit of brass rod with a bit of brass plate soldered to it with common or garden multicore solder.
There may even be more pics - or there may not.....
On the water it appears to move at a very 'scale' 40 knots, which suits me fine :)
-Rob
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Thanks for sharing the photos of the "innards" I,ve just completed this model myself but I built it as a static model straight out of the box
I'm now thinking of getting another and installing R/C, is the rear deck screwed down or just a tight fit?
cheers Les
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Just a reasonably tight interference fit - It will easily support the weight of the boat if suspended from a part of the 'captive' deck.
-Rob
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The Revell 1/72 S-Boat? It's been out for ages?!
Are you sure you're not waiting for the same one I, and many others are - the Italeri S-100 in 1/35
yes i got my scales mixed up I'm no good at this speed reading ::)
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Well it's finished! (translation = As finished as it's ever going to get...)
A bit of a chop on today down at the lake (!)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot003.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot004.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot001.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot002.jpg)
After reports of a rogue E-boat in the area, a Lancaster returning from a sortie was diverted for a fly-by ;)
I was just lining up a few shots of the S-Boat when the BBMF Lanc flew in at 1500ft - I was lying flat on my stomach on the dock and was just able to pan out and round to 'grab' the Lanc between the trees.
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot005.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot006.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot007.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot008.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot009.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot0010.jpg)
The S-Boats where 'wet' boats - about to get much wetter!
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot0011.jpg)
It's quite clear here the design philosophy of the S-Boat, they are designed to cut through the sea, rather than plane over the surface. This makes for a steadier, but occasionally wetter platform.
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot0012.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot0013.jpg)
(http://homepage.mac.com/robertdavies/sboot/sboot0014.jpg)
There y'go folks
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i didnt say it before but shes a beaut O0
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Cheers leaky!
It's appreciated :)
I studied numerous black and white photographs, and had to use best guess on some items/colours. The Revell colour charts where somewhat at odds with what my research suggested, so I followed my nose as it where and used 'artistic license'....
-Rob
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Cracking looking boat there Robert,excellent photos as well,
Stavros
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There are some really cracking pictures there Robert. Getting such clear shots with a long lens and such a narrow depth of field takes a lot of practise and when you are panning at the same time!!!! but some of those, especially with the nose in the water have come out really well.
The innards look very neat as well and push it along at just about the right pace. It would look good alongside a 1/72nd u-boat.
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Hi! I'm tungi from here ;) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=865474
Thank you for linking your project, it looks very cool, and gave me some ideas. I'm thinking about the slot motor, it will be faster than a toy one? mmm...
(http://www.collectrussia.com/sBoot/Span02.jpg)
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Hi! I'm tungi from here ;) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=865474
Thank you for linking your project, it looks very cool, and gave me some ideas. I'm thinking about the slot motor, it will be faster than a toy one? mmm...
Hi tungi!
Thanks for dropping by!
It was your project that made me set to and finish mine :)
Regarding the motor, it's hard to tell whether the speed would be quicker with your choices made in your design process
- the Mabuchi long can slotcar motor way turn your propshaft fast enough to melt the plastic prop tube.
I don't know the actual answer but my opinion is that you should be OK.
I think your main problem at the moment is getting hold of a decent propeller and attaching it firmly to the propshaft.
The biggest problem we both have with these boats is squeezing enough motor and battery power into the hull without it sitting too low in the water!
Best regards,
-Rob
ps Welcome to ModelBoatMayhem a truly international model boat website and forum! Let us know where in the world you are!
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Thanks
I'm from Spain O0
I decided to install the plastic prop(not from model) and try it when finished. I copied the plasticard lip ;D
Some pics of how it's now. As you I'm not following the Revell's paint scheme at all, I prefer a good looking ship {-)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/5mii5l.jpg)
Do you have any video so we can see the speed of that great ship? ::)
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Thanks
I'm from Spain O0
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Do you have any video so we can see the speed of that great ship? ::)
Hey Spain! Home of Slotracing :) I keep thinking of switching the motor to a Slot.it Boxer 2 - Then my sensible head takes over again :)
No, I do not have any video available - or any real chance of getting any...... I'll see what I can do though :)
I wonder if the weather's going to be good tomorrow?..... Hmm... My wife's digital camera does movies.... ;)
Regards,
-Rob
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You are going to add weathering to it?
I want to do it, but I only know the Dry-brush thing. (I'm good at it) and I don't know how to do the rust like this: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2015.0
Any hint to how make that effect?
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You are going to add weathering to it?
I want to do it, but I only know the Dry-brush thing. (I'm good at it) and I don't know how to do the rust like this: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2015.0
Any hint to how make that effect?
Weathering? No more than the dry-brush highlighting that I've already done. My skill are pretty limited, and I rather too little than too much - In the words of Mr Eastwood "A man's got to know his limitations".
If you want to know how the guy in the other thread did his weathering, why not try sending him a Personal Message via the forum?
Regards,
-Rob
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Cracking looking boat there Robert,excellent photos as well,
Stavros
Cheers Stavros!
Not exactly a Llanberis boat - but it was summat alittle different :)
-Rob :D
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There are some really cracking pictures there Robert. Getting such clear shots with a long lens and such a narrow depth of field takes a lot of practise and when you are panning at the same time!!!! but some of those, especially with the nose in the water have come out really well.
The innards look very neat as well and push it along at just about the right pace. It would look good alongside a 1/72nd u-boat.
Thanks for that BB!
I wonder who's got a 1/72 U-Boat handy? Hmmmm.... I wonder ;)
-Rob
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Great work (both building the kit, and converting it to RC)! It certainly runs very well for such a small model (though I hope the deck join and especially the forward 20mm gun tub is sealed thoroughly - looks like your S-boat wants to become a U-boat ;D )
Being (still) mainly a static ship modeller, I can't quite get used to 1/72 being "mini scale" though!
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And now mit video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJy_WQoWFuc
Just a little something I hacked together - with the emphasis on 'hacked' :(
-Rob
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And now mit video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJy_WQoWFuc
Just a little something I hacked together - with the emphasis on 'hacked' :(
-Rob
Wohooo, great video. I can imagine now how it will perform mine. :D
Thank you! :)
Look at this one, it's a modern schnellboot, but you can see how it cut de waves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n549LKy8XeE
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Great video and boat! Who's music is that? Sounded a bit like Jeff Beck.
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Thank you both for the kind comments :)
I have no idea who the music is by - It is however from the 'Kill Bill' soundtrack - Lucy Liu makes her grand entrance to this piece <drool>.... :D
-Rob
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Didn't see Kill Bill, not a big Tarantino fan.... but he uses some good tunes.
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I have disturbed the crypt of this long, dead thread only to see the pics and video which have long since disappeared. {:-{
Any chance of reviving them or might they be hosted elsewhere?
Thnx,
-Harq
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Finally got the kit too, coming into my large, greedy hands soon enough and have thus drawn myself back into all things S-100 and Schnellboot-y. Pity about the non-existent photos....
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The images disappeared when idisk got turned off…
Trying a few as attachments - there may have been enemy action overhead on the same day.
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The last two pics and the [size=78%]Youtube video:[/size]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc8wh0k6QeY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc8wh0k6QeY)
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Are you sure that is not a submerging U-boat? %%
Looks fantastic. O0
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Are you sure that is not a submerging U-boat? %%
Looks fantastic. O0
Good news!: It's only 18 inches long….
Bad news!: It's only 18 inches long….
Consequently any wave is substantial at 72nd scale - That said built with care to completely seal from the rear of the skull cap bridge forwards, it is remarkably seaworthy - The furthest I tend to let it go away from me is 75-ish yards, it's at that range that it occurs to you that sea grey and normal eyesight are not a good combination for keeping the boat under observation, let alone under control, especially on grey overcast days when the water reflects the sky to camouflage the boat almost perfectly.
I do have a 1/36 scale S-11 boat that I'm renovating/refurbing, and there's also an Italeri 1/35 S-Boot kit wing it's way to me. You could say I quite like the S-Boot design… ;)
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Fantastic. Great to see what was once lost and is now found. Can you by chance restore the construction pics and views of the innards?
Was wondering to myself how difficult it would be, or if it is even feasible to attempt powering all shafts, perhaps with brushless motors.
This guy did it with 1/72 Tamiya PT-15. Guess one has to want it bad enough. http://heliblog.moller-ilsoe.dk/#category11.2 (http://heliblog.moller-ilsoe.dk/#category11.2)