Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Other Hobbies and Interests => Topic started by: uboatbuilder on July 01, 2008, 01:08:52 pm
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Hi, havent been on here for a while but have been meaning to put these on here since seeing the rest of them last time i was online. i love these things. the tiger particularly has tamiya looks (allbeit for a few minor accuracy issues) for a fraction of the price, and well the tiger's my favourite any way.
they are quite tricky at first to get a realistic running appearance as rather than having a proper esc they seem to have somesort of 3 stage thingy that goes slow-medium-fast. but with practise they can look great and there are plenty of custom parts for them.
so here it is with weathering and some repainted parts to improve some of the accuracy problems such as silver sprocket and idler wheels to name 1. Also painted in the lights as i thought it looked a bit silly lit up like xmas tree.
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Very, Very nice, it really looks the biz, I have just bought a 1:6th M5 from 21st century toys and when I get the chance am going to make it look a bit more like the real thing. All I need is a 1:6th scale landing craft to go with it, now that would be something. Your Tiger is first class, I hope my M5 comes close to it for looks......Well done... O0.....Smudge
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What siound unit do they use?
Are they any good?
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Top stuff as usual. Nicely detailed, would never had guessed is was a HL O0
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What's the electronics like in the Heng Long? Is there any scope for upgrading, like the Seaport tugs? or are they OK out of the box?
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Hi guys thanks for your comments as always. :) To be honest i havent opened it up yet (havent needed to) but there are upgrades for it (different gearboxes etc) as far as the speedo goes i dont they do one but there must be a way of using a different (better) one than whats in there. If thers a will theres a way. But i havent bothered yet as im quite happy with how it is, once you get used to how it goes you can make it look pretty realistic. i suppose i could try to get a video of it running.
Not sure what sound unit it is either but i thought about trying to put the tamiya one in there as it must be better than this one but its a little expensive.
This website has loads of stuff, and this link has photographic instructions of how to take it apart and whats inside etc. havent looked at it in depth but if you want to know more and fancy a read take a look.
scroll to the bottom and the diiferent instr. are on the left hand side.
http://tankzone.co.uk/category/man_henglong.htm
Thanks again
Grant
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Hi. I am also a collector of Heng Long tanks, have three at the moment, Tiger (see picture) Walker Bulldog and Pershing.
The quality of both model and electronics have improved with each new tank, the latest Panzer III and IV are reported to be the best ever. The new smoke generator now is proportional to the speed. They are reported to be bringing out a lot more tanks, including some British in the near future. As uboatbuilder says you can get all manner of upgrade parts for them and they are a fraction of the price of the Tamiya tanks.
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Is that the 'stick on' zimmerit Brockya?
I fancy a 'tabby' too, my son already has the Leopard, Howes Models are currently offering the Tiger with metal track and gearbox upgrade fitted for about £80, quite a good deal I thought.
I REeeeeeeaaally like the 1/6th scale girlies, but jeez can they be expensive!!
So off I trotted and found a USA site that builds sort of 'stand off' scale I think we'd call it, tanks. They fit them out with paintballs and have a barny.
Coming from this background, it would be easy to make more of the scale appearance and elevate it away from the stand off look.
A 1/6th Tiger Tank....thats about 40" long! :D
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Hi Penguin.
I made the zimmerit myself from a modelling clay that set hard after making the pattern, you can buy stick on zimmerit now but not when I modified this tank. Yes 1/6 tanks, if I had a spare few thousand maybe, or maybe more boats, or may be both!!! it ain't going to happen this life.. though I am thinking about a Deans LSM kit, trying to find out what sort of build it is?
Richard
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Have a look here Brockya: http://www.rctankcombat.com/
If you can build a boat, you can build one of these babies very easily....I think! :o
Got my 16th scale Tiger this afternoon and spent the rest of it drooling over the available bolt-on goodies that really make it shine.
There seems to be one or two scale issues, most of which can easil be sorted, the gun mantle is fitted wrong way round, the commanders cupola hatch is opening in the wrong direction, the barrel is 20mm to short and appears as if its permanantly in the recoil position and the aerial/antenna is in the wrong place apparently.
I've still to fit the metal tracks too...
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I was goin to try and get some pics of the faults on here at some point but the tanks in the box now covered with other things, will get them though.
I was thinkin about these HL's earlier and was wondering why they dont do some of the more popular tanks.
they've done the panther and the tiger which are in my opinion and as far as i know the more famous or rather infamous of the ones they do at the moment but what about the:
King Tiger 8)
Sherman 8)
T34 8)
I know id have all 3 of those and im sure im not the only and at their pirices aswell its way WAY more feasible than buying 4 or 5 Tamiyas.
Does anyone know if Heng long have plans for future new models rather than improvements on old ones?
Grant :) :) O0
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pics of tanks ftw lol
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all the best O0
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hi grant
the boys are missing you at the lake
gary
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Offshore, wellies in the lounge ? Rising damp problems ? :-\
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lol {-)
Christmas pressy for me mum, also got the tanks for christmas :)
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I'm having a hard job at the moment persuading myself NOT to buy the Matorro King Tiger.....
You lot ain't helping!
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-Rob
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Go on Robert, a little bit of what you fancy does you good, and only beer money?
Convinced yet?
Bob
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Searching ebay at this very moment ;)
-Rob
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If this works, below will appear a pic of a 1/6 M3 that i built for a serious 1/6 collector.
based on the M5 mechanicals, but seriously modified and with over 1700 rivets !
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hi grant
the boys are missing you at the lake
gary
Hi Gary. I know its been ages. its just we've been working practically every weekend and when we finally do have one off the weather's awful >:( >:( >:(. Hopefully (though i very much doubt it) we've had the worst of the weather and we'll be able to get down there soon. we were talking about trying to get down there the other day as it goes. Hope everyones ok and say hi to them for me.
and hope to see you all soon O0
Grant
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a friend of mine has a couple of these hl tanks, his tiger1 has been fitted with a home made proortional smoke unit, he has upgraded the motors, and modified the sound unit, its really nice. I would like to do a Sherman, really liked that tank, and it WOULD have to be a replica of Oddball's (Donald Sutherland) in the Kelly's Heroes film...... "positive waves man"!!!
Anyone got a pic of a RC Sherman?
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Here's my Sherman Tamiya Tank with sound system startup/engine idle sound, machine gun and fireing sound moving turret and barrel with blast flash and best bit of all when the tank fires the barrel and whole tank recoils back O0 awesome
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Lovely stuff..... O0
Im slowly getting some materials together for my 1:6th Tiger but the rubbish weathers putting a damper on things, plan B is to watch out for one of those winter dry spells to get the carcass put together. Till then Im putting things together in my head, trying to slove problems as I come up with them and writing down the solutions in log.
One of the main ones was the wiring of the turret rotating mechanism and any other bits that go in there, solution?
Make the turret an entity of its own! 6-7 channel control would work I think 2ch's for steering, 1 for machine gun and another for smoke, of course I need a channel for a rousing chorus of "Panzer Lied" as I roar into action in Kursk!.....erh...ok, ok, the park!
The rest up top for turret rotation/elevation.
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apart from the officer who looks like he has just escaped from a mental home good effort, I have two tanks the snow leapard and the bulldog, and a friend has two, I have in my large garden set up a combat course, the plot is 12 terrorists have hijacked eight UN aid workers and are holding them in a mosque, MY old sqd (22) SAS have been given the task of getting them back, to do this they have been given two tanks as the mosque is 88 miles behind the lines and the use of aircraft is out as they have the latest in russian radar with GTA missiles, the engines on the tanks have been treated to make them as quite as possible, now they have to go to a start line and the first tank starts off it has to go through a minefield in which a narrow path has been cleared, just wide enough for the tanks metal tracks, soon there is a pill box with anti-tank rockets which has to be taken out, this is followed by a pill box and trench also with self guided anti tank rockets and 50mm cannon, then comes a anti tank barrier of trees which have been fallen and piled up so that when the tank climbs over them its bottom is exposed to the gun on a russian tank which was taken out by the RAF but the turret still works as does the gun, here the tank has to make a sharp left turn to avoid another mine field and comes face to face with a big trench with a large lumber of 50 mm cannons in it, then there is a tall radar tower which must be destroyed, beyond this is the mosque, in the top of the tower is a lookout with a rocket launcher, now the mosque must not be damaged as it will cause an uprising of all the arabs in the country, in the hours of darkness a SAS member climbed the tower and painted a red line, the red line is to denote that only that part of the mosque above the red line can be touched. , the tower top has to be taken out without damage to to the rest of the mosque, once this has been done a squad of eight SAS will blow the doors and storm the inside, should the first tank fail the second will try, we carry out the exercise as a competition, all buildings are constructed from balsa so that the hits can be seen and counted, trenches are considered to be destroyed if and when two pellets are in the trench, we have different coloured pellets for different type amo white is high explosive on contact, yellow is for air burst with shrapnel, and florescent pellets are both tracer and armour peircing
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This is my battle damaged Tiger tank :-)) These Heng Long are great for modifying.
Russ
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Its nice to see i,m not the only one who made the jump from Tanks to boats,and perhaps back again,
when I started out with tanks,HL were,nt around,so it had to be the more expensive Tamiya,s,my 1st one was the early Production model,then i got a KT,then HL came on the market,and they were a revelation,justwhat we needed,"cheap as chips" tanks,ok, the early one,s were,nt just right,like the Tiger having the mantlet fitted upside down,like in the pics of the one on here,the rangefinder,i.e. the 2 holes side by side were on the right as you look at the tank from the front,but give them their due HL soon started producing what Tamiya could,nt,
and now the latest model of the Jagdpanther,is right up there,as is the Matorro KT,change its barrel and you,re off,
here are some pics of my 1st Tiger-1, a Tamiya, and one of my last,which is seen playing in the snow,
its a 1/6th by the way,
Wasyl
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Oops, i forgot the pics :embarrassed:
wasyl
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What sound units do you guys use?
Where do you get you spares and upgrades from?
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Spares and upgrades from www.tankzone.co.uk/cart/henglong.htm
Tanks from http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/RadioControl/viewProducts.php?SubCatID=170
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Get on to the 1/6 or even 1/4 if you are brave Wasyl... great fun. My latest project is a WW2 Matilda at 1/2 scale . once the bug bites , then bigger is always better.
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:}Hi Rob, get into 1/6th mmm,my Tiger in the snow is a 1/6th,Its a Field of Armour,with Armortek upgrades,i.e.metal hatches,cupola, exhaust covers,side skirts,full Tamiya sound modules,2 x 350w chaindrive motors,running on 24v,one of the figures is an animatronic,
others i have had have been the Mark-1 Kingtiger, see pics,
I,m winding down now and getting more into boats
Wasyl
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ok.. out of the henlong range of 1/16 tanks which one does everyone rate as the best/ or a good buy ?-
i have a 1/16th russian t34 tank bought at a continetal model show - ,
(its good but its not henlong- so it needed lots of modifications and option packs to bring it up to the standard i was looking for..)
i am thinking of getting another tank to battle with, can anyone recommend a henlong item to fit the bill ?
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http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/RadioControl/viewProduct.php?ProdID=3198
Product Code ChT8181SMG
Product Name German Tiger I Tank Metal Tracks & gears
Manufacturer Heng Long
Full Description
Fully radio control high detail 1/16 scale tank featuring SOUND and SMOKE units, high gripping caterpillar tracks, varying speed forward, back, right and left movement, plus rotating and lifting turret which fires BB bullets (included)! AND metal tracks and gears!!
Everything in the box except 8 x AA batteries required for the handset.
Even comes with headlights, tail lights, a figure to sit in the tank and a target so you have something to aim for! Gun has a range of approx. 25m, fires BB"s!
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looks like it will fit the bill :D
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I've got to get me one of these! It won't fly but will it float? ;D
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Like a brick. %)
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How about a DDay LTC to scale ok2- the tanks are sorted. ( No German heavy metal allowed on board mind. :o)
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Like a brick. %)
Ok, they can,t float,but they were designed to ford rivers,and could travel under water in depths up to 5m,with the aid of a snorkel,
Wullie
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Some Pics of my FOA Tiger in 1/6th,full rc with lots of battle scars
Wullie
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Very impressive Wullie, especially the damage to the anti-magnetic paste - I visited the 'Musee Des Blindes' (French National Armoured Vehicle Museum) located just outside Samaur while on holiday in the Loire, France last year and saw Tiger/Konigstiger/Conqueror and many others - what a collection they have - most of their tanks are also functional - spent 6 hours there but my camera batteries were flat :(( I visited Bovington many years ago. Is your fine winter Tiger B/Bulge or Eastern Front?
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"anti-magnetic paste" - what's that?
Is the that slatted stuff around the turret?
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Hi Martin, Yes it the slatted stuff trowelled on to prevented magnetic explosive mines/dvices being attached to the tank hull by attacking infantry. As far as I can remember this was a German practice I don't think allied armour ever employed this paste - it hardened soon after application so it was concrete like and bonded to the hull. I seem to remember reading that it was never particularly effective. The attacking infantry use to improvise - smother their exlosive devices in loads of heavy grease (sticky bombs) and then place them tracks/turret ring. A book called 'The Forgotten Soldier' is a moving autobiographical account of war on the eastern front from the German point of view - everyday heroism in appalling circumstances. ok2 One of my favourites is also the Wooden Wonder, lovely pr in DH museum.
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Hi Martin,the slatted stuff, is called zimmerit,the Germans made it from sawdust and plaster, then applied it to their tanks,but as Perkas,says it was,nt very effective,On my tank its Decorators caulk,this tank was a kit,and the winter camo is from the Eastern Front,1943/44,
This model is abit of a bitsa,the bottom hull is a late production Tiger,and the turret is from an early production,during the latter stages of the war,the Germans,used whatever they could,to keep these mighty beasts going,my modelis modelled on one i saw in a book in the Panzer Museum at Munster/Germany,this one has 2 x 350w wheel chair motors fitted running on 24v
And the sound system is a recording of the Kingtiger that is in Saumur,
Wullie
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Hi Wullie your spelling is correct - Saumur - I think there are 2 Konigstigers in that museum - what a soundtrack ;)
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Hi, me and Domonic have one of these henglong tanks each , snow leopard and a tiger , but I can`t remember where it is that you fill the smoke units from ?
does any of you know?
Me and Domonic usually have a battle with these at the weymouth campsite (weymouth model boat festival) in the evenings fireing the BB pellets from them at each others tanks - the odd one sometimes hits delboy in shorts - he loves it and laughs with us - I think not! {-)
Regards Paul.
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Here's my new (Mauri?) Leopard II.
I was going to fit it to my new sprinter but the rate of fire is too slow....
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Hi Paul
Fillers are at rear of tank
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These Hen Long tanks seem very good value for money in comparison with other manufacturers. They are reasonably well detailed but how about the quality of the mechanicals and radio gear?
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Mine has the metal tracks and metal gearboxes.
The radio is 27meg with changable crystals, dont know about the range, but how far away are you going to be.
My son has one as well and the two work quite happily side by side.
Some of the sound affects aren't quite as good as Tamiya, but you are paying a hell of a lt less.
If you want to know more about them check out here.
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tankzone.co.uk/images/hl/sp/P3C.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tankzone.co.uk/cart/henglong.htm&usg=__RLFR524DtlGE-yvET1Oc8Qm7u8s=&h=309&w=451&sz=18&hl=en&start=269&um=1&tbnid=54q4XeKS7eBRpM:&tbnh=87&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpanzer%2BIII%2Btank%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26start%3D252%26um%3D1
If you want to buy one check out here.
http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/RadioControl/viewProducts.php?SubCatID=170
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Many thanks for the links Richard these prices won't cause a divorce. Tamiya pricing is OTT irregardless of the quality. This chinese manufacturer has realised that a real quality product competitively/reasonably priced can sell well even in this difficult time and they are also making a good profit. Tamiya are following a typical Japanese ploy of 'pricing/milking to the hilt' - plus spares/extras - they've finally got a comuppance - competition, and a lot more modellers can enjoy/access this fascinating branch of modelling. :-))
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Hi Martin,
That Leopard looks like a Heng Long, its only got 6 Road wheels..... the Marui are much better detailed and with the correct 7 wheels and with a better controller, interchangeable 27 meg xtals etc. and are a lot more expensive,You can also get the V.S Tanks ( They are Marui Export ) and of the same Marui quality.
Regards.
Sub. :-))
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What's the bit on the side, up near the muzzle?
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Looks like a barrel stabiliser,
Wullie
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How's that work then?
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Its a collimator Martin for the muzzle reference system.
The muzzle reference system allows a quick check for the gunner of the distortion of the gun barrel in relation to the sight optics.
First fitted on the Leopard 2 A4. :-))
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There was me dreaming it was a bayonet boss. <:(
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I thought it was a barrel stop,..looks like one :embarrassed:
Wullie
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nice pictures. i love RC tanks . but i don't have one because they are a little bit expensive. and i can't afford them.