Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Model Boating => Topic started by: J.beazley on August 08, 2006, 05:58:48 pm
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i have just purchased a scale helicopter and am learning to fly,
i am really interested in building some sort of floating helipad that can be towed behind my Severn
if anyone has any pictures of a helipad or know where i can get some FREE plans for a nice floating barge please post them up
cheers
Jay
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Brave man buying a chopper let alone wanting to land it on a barge good luck. ;)
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well the idea is to tow something behind my Severn while trying to land my heli on the landing pad.
do any tugs have landing pads?? or maybe a aircraft carrier?? now theres an idea.
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... maybe a winch would be a better idea (and a less stressful one!) You know, like in air-sea rescue helicopters - you could arrange to winch a stretcher from the tug or something like that. Now that would be a stunt and a half!
The real guys though, need to do this flying very straight, with both ship and helicopter travelling at the same speed - so maybe you need to find a very long lake first...? ;D
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as well as the long lake, it would need to be a very big barge, i suppose it is not a 1/72nd scale seaking, (in a SAR role). Ellesmere show a couple of years ago, had an oil rig in a tug towing exhibit, and that was the size of a small trailer.
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sadly its not a seaking, but you have given me a thought to hunt for a fuselage of one.....
my heli is nothing special just a ebay job so the scale is pretty small compared to many other models out there.
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if your feeling ambitious i know the royal navy have specially built helicopter carriers.
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The idea of combining model helicopters and ships was pretty fully explored in the "Supermodels" series. It was noted that the smaller the model helicopter, the more twitchy. To get an outdoor workable model helicopter, the ship model would be enormous.
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ultramagnus get some pics up for me to look at ;D
if it looks good enough then i might try building something like it, as for now im in the process of finding a fuselage of a rescue chopper but im having no luck.
need to find a vacuum moulding thingy to make my own fuselage but thats getting extreme and costly.
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Is it OCEAN the latest member of the HMS logistics support vessels?
I know matchbox do a large scale Puma which could probably act as a 'skin' for a r/C chopper
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yup, the HMS Ocean, the wikipedia page on it can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ocean_%28L12%29 although, its not very good, the "external links" section has some pritty decent links
its pritty small for a carrier, only 208m long
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... its big for a floating helipad though - 'cos that is about all it is....
Having said that, the other two big recent additions to the fleet probably don't look that big either, but the one I saw nearing completion absolutely dwarfed the town of Barrow - especially perched high up on the slipway...! :o
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Like the regular ships in the navy, the royal auxiliary have to combine what was single use vessels into multipurpose types, as a freight carrier, she is still quite small, someones buit one with a seaking that lifts of the deck by a clear rod mechanism
As mentioned in another thread / section, i have a couple of seakings that i want to put on a 1/72 scale hermes, but the size of it would be too big for this terraced house, the two with rotors extended are fitted with motors to turn the main rotor, and they have LED's on the tail and under the front for navigation lights, the third is a static (ignore magnum's mates hughes 500).
i also have a couple of harriers with nav lights as well.
sorry about the quality of the pics, they were taken with a web cam using the prints i have.
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oh the hughes 500 is of to the left, i thought it was in the pic i took with the web cam
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I thought i would have a go at a helicopter, looked like a bit of fun and bought an electric dragonfly off ebay for about 11 quid. Do you think i can fly it? Tried twice crashed three times put it back in its box.
Local model shop expert said the bigger ones are easier to start with, but who wants to fork out many hundreds of pounds, break it and not like it.
Good luck!
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Have a look at Billings Boat model Calypso this is a converted minsweeper user as a research vessel by Jaques Costea it includes a helipad and a diving belle
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i have the same trouble with my copter 2772e tried to fly it and well crash it everytime so it just sits on a shelf now.
measurements wise the helipad would need to be 3 foot square just so i can land the thing on it without the tail dipping into the water.
might give it a bash at flying again over the winter if the lake freezes up.
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I'd give this idea a miss, seriously! Flying a decent model sized heli is difficult enough as it is without learning to fly one to land on a moving barge!
I think you're just asking to damage the towing vessel not to mention probably landing the heli in the drink.
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I know its not nice but I love watching helis crash as they have a tendency to thrash whatever is in the vicinity to death with the rotors, always get a laugh out of that,
And Helicopters do not really fly the earth repells them..>
Roy
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think this idea is blown out of proportion a bit :o
the general idea was a good one but trying to put it into practice is something else especially when i cant fly my heli yet.....
on the up side i could always tow a platform behind one of my electric cars that way i dont loose the heli if it goes pete tong.
should learn to fly first tho ::)
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I know its not nice but I love watching helis crash as they have a tendency to thrash whatever is in the vicinity to death with the rotors, always get a laugh out of that,
And Helicopters do not really fly the earth repells them..>
Roy
Oh I say! That's not very nice! ;) Must say I love helis especially scale (same with all my modelling criteria!).
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I have a great admiration of any modeler who can contoll a model chopper...especially a retired one !!!
chromedome
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Hello,
Another quote I read was, " Helicopters do not fly, they beat the Air into submission !".
Not too far from the truth.
John.
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Roy
Oh I say! That's not very nice! ;) Must say I love helis especially scale (same with all my modelling criteria!).
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Mate when flown correctly I love watching them as well, but I have seen a lot crash for varying reasons..
Roy
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ive got to admit there has to be a nac to flying a copter ive still not found it.
dont get me wrong the crashing is spectacular at times but the repair bill is always the downer.
back on the subject im transforming my 1/10 scale Griffon hovercraft to take my heli on the deck area should be interesting but will see how it goes.
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Jay did you fly fixed wing aircraft, and now switching to helis..
Roy
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cbr900 the only aircraft i used to fly with my dad was a Ripmax mustang but that was a few years ago now.
the only reason i got a heli was because i thought it would look good flying above my Severn lifeboat.
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I have not tried them but have been told if you fly fixed wing aircraft, it is even harder to learn as you are in a mind set for the fixed wing, and helis don't work that way..
Roy
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I saw a large model heli crash once, it had a canister of some sort for orange smoke trails onboard, it stopped dead in mid air, dropped and then the smoke canister must have opened/exploded on impact and the whole feild looked like it was on fire, except with orange smoke not flames ;D
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Don't think your allowed to fly model aircraft of any sort in public parks, bit of a safety issue.
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Hi I certainly would'ny risk flying a helicopter behind your Servern, think of the expense if it went *$%* up. you could however get a lesro ILB & Century make a scale Seaking helicopter, which is about 4ft long, roughly the same scale, & do winching, which looks the part, also not so expencive on the boat, heli dammed expencive though !!
Pic of me being winched at a sea festival in Harwich when I was on the Lifeboat crew.
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Brilliant picture, myself has given up trying to fly my heli slow enough to look realistic behind my baby severn.
Going slowly forward almost at a stationary hover seems to be the only way i can fly my copter close enough to the boat without it looking too out of place.
still on the plus side i might ask a friend who flies if he would like the challenge of landing on a barge towed by my Ryhope tug or baby severn.
Jay
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Wait a couple years, and the Helicopeters will get smaller....
In the mean time, you need to build a very large scale Offshore Diving Support Vessel (OSDSV? - DSND?), or
an Offshore Construction Vessel (OSCV)
Proposed X-bow OSDSV Ulstein SX121
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4600/ulsteinsx121copyyg5.jpg)
Proposed OSCV to be launched 2009 from Aker Shipyards
(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2728/oscv06l153mop7.jpg)
Perhaps a slight refit to any of the AHST models like the Aziz might work.
Time to build a new boat... ;)
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JB it would need to be quite large and stable, but it is theoretically feasable, just be a "xxxxx" to control.
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I think technology needs to be a bit more advanced and the size of outdoor helicopters to be scaled down more before anything like this will be atempted by myself.
The thought was there but my brain had gone for a walk. ::)
still the ships above are very impressive and could be modelled into a large scale given time and a lot of effort.
Jay
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Trallee - who was the diving belle on the Calypso - was there a figure in the kit? The truth must be told.
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Perhaps an easier helicopter to fly might be of help.
The dual rotor helicopters are very maneuverable, and supposed to be a lot simpler to control.
Especially for us "helm hard over" types.
They are still fairly large, like the Blade, and AXE-EZ. Some of the smaller ones like the Dragonfly, may be a little too light for stiff breeze. But these types of helicopters may give you more confidence in the air. ;)
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLH1200
http://www.towerhobbies.com/products/heli-max/hmxe05.html
http://www.hobbytron.com/ElectricRCMiniDragonflyHelicopter.html
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Just a thought.
In a model you cannot look down. So landging on anything further than a few feet away might be a problem
However with 2.4 ghz and micro cameras, this could be fun