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Title: Hermes Lighting
Post by: Rex Hunt on July 02, 2009, 01:43:18 pm
Thought I would ask the Oracles!

I am trying to discover what flightdeck lighting was used on Happy H after her Harrier 'nose job'

So far I have drawn a blank!

Not after the approach or 'Meatball' lighting, just that to mark out the runway sections of the deck.

Trips to RN Museum at Pompey and FAAM at Yeovilton haven't borne fruit either...........

Someone must know!

Please tell!

Rex
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: Colin Bishop on July 02, 2009, 05:25:28 pm
I have a couple of pictures of the Hermes model in the RN Museum but I assume you have already seen that.

Colin
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: Rex Hunt on July 02, 2009, 08:43:00 pm
Tjhanks for the offer Colin, visited Pompey last year expressly to take photos of that model.........
only problem is.........................it doesn't show the lights!

(They actually had a small scale verion there too.....about 1/144 I guess) and that didn't show them either!

Rex
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: Bryan Young on July 03, 2009, 05:23:31 pm
I think you may well find that "on-deck" lights were discontinued well before the Harriers came on the scene. I presume you are talking about the big round jobs that were spring loaded into "tubs" on flight decks. In my memory they were phased out in the early 70s and replaced with 2 sorts of funnelled spotlights. A big advantage of the "spotlights" is that it's easier to play deck hockey without tripping over the slight upwards bulging the earlier ones had. (ie, a flat deck). Joking aside, the spotlight version puts light where and when required, at the intensity required. Big subject. Ask if more info and / or pics are needed. BY.
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: Rex Hunt on July 07, 2009, 05:05:33 pm
Thanks Bryan, do I take it then that the deck was effectively 'Floodlit' rather than having 'Runway lights'?

Rex
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: Bryan Young on July 08, 2009, 06:13:33 pm
I enclose a pic of the Flight Deck lighting arrangements on RFA "Gold Rover".  Not quite an aircraft carrier, but the lighting units are standardised whatever ship they are fitted to. I'm not sure if the GPI in the form shown (the round thing at very top centre) would be fitted to a carrier, and the horizon bar would take a different form. Cheers. BY.
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: Rex Hunt on July 08, 2009, 07:36:15 pm
Thanks Brian,
                 This kinda gen is rather sparse already!

Rex
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: Derek on July 15, 2009, 09:55:57 pm
Hallo guys I have got Hermes plains for around 1982 on from the forklands war including all navigation lighting and wot they are there is a lot of lighting.
They are at 1:96 scale plains the same to the one I am buildind if this is any help to you.  O0
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: Rex Hunt on July 15, 2009, 11:11:47 pm
Spot on Derek,
Any gen would be much appreciated.
My Jecobin plan is no hyelp in this area!

Rex
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: del7317 on July 29, 2009, 07:32:17 pm
Hi Derek
 Are theses plans available to buy If so where can i get a copy.

Del
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: hmsantrim on July 29, 2009, 11:47:42 pm
would be interested as too! :-))
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: madrob on July 30, 2009, 02:16:30 am
Jecobin plans are here.....
http://www.jecobinplans.com/estore/index.php?
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: John R Haynes on July 30, 2009, 10:55:07 am
I have photos of my Hemes built for the NMM that will be going on my site soon which cover the lighting on the island . Two types were used if my memory serves me right , a long shielded type and a short type , both of which I had cast in w/m  . We are talking 80's here but I could maybe find the masters and get them into my shop BUT what would be the demand ?
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: Rex Hunt on July 30, 2009, 01:28:19 pm
The 'spot lights' are available John, the query is as to whether or not there were additional lights mounted in the 'runway' surface of the flight deck,and at the top of the ramp, as some photo's seem to show, and if so what colours were used where.


Thanks for the  response


Rex
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: Derek on July 30, 2009, 10:36:12 pm
Far as I know guys the set for Hermes plains that show all types of navigation lighting on the Hermes are available for the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich at a cost I was lucky and was lent a set and had them copyed at a price I hope this helps you guys out %) %) %)

Derrick
Title: Re: Hermes Lighting
Post by: John R Haynes on August 01, 2009, 09:12:52 am
Hermes photos are now up on my site www.johnrhaynes.com . I have very many of these but have put the most informative ones on , construction and finished.
PSShips have the hull mould now and can supply if required.