Model Boat Mayhem

Mess Deck: General Section => Model Boating => Topic started by: Martin (Admin) on November 06, 2006, 10:16:20 pm

Title: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on November 06, 2006, 10:16:20 pm
http://www.jtashipphoto.dk/jtashipphoto.dk%201/Emma%20Maersk/emma_maersk.htm (http://www.jtashipphoto.dk/jtashipphoto.dk%201/Emma%20Maersk/emma_maersk.htm)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6118032.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6118032.stm)

http://www.maerskline.com/link/?page=news&path=/news/news20060901 (http://www.maerskline.com/link/?page=news&path=/news/news20060901)
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Jonty on November 06, 2006, 10:57:22 pm
Maybe the Navy could buy a couple of these and convert them to aircraft carriers. Save a lot of money and wrangling over the design. Only one engine though...
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 07, 2006, 08:28:18 pm
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Only one engine though...

Yes, but it's the biggest in the world!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4rtsil%C3%A4-Sulzer_RTA96-C
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: bradboat on November 07, 2006, 08:41:03 pm
How about that in a tug towing competition? ;)
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: andywright on November 07, 2006, 09:36:22 pm
For some reason Maersk don't admit to true capacities of there ships, I have it from a reliable source that the Emma Maersk is at least 13,000 TEU capacity.
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 07, 2006, 09:50:46 pm
I think that is correct but I believe that Maersk do not propose loading her beyond 11,000 TEU as a matter of policy.
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Stavros on November 07, 2006, 11:41:32 pm
Do you think it might need some ballast on the stern as the prop seems rather high out of  water
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Malc Reade on November 07, 2006, 11:52:17 pm

Stavros

I think it probably needs 8000 full ISO containers as ballast?  ;D ;D ;D

They reckon that there are 6 more of these on the slips due to be launched in 2007.  Can you just imagine the cost to LLoyds if any one of these goes to the bottom, God forbid?

Regards, Malc


Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: cbr900 on November 08, 2006, 08:15:22 am
Martin,

Thats a big model mate, who are you going to get to help you carry that one around.... ;D ;D ;D



Roy
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: dougal99 on November 08, 2006, 04:48:36 pm
Just think of making up all those containers - Job for life  ??? ???
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: 2772e on November 08, 2006, 04:59:04 pm
Berthed in Harwich last weekend, very impressive. Loaded with mp3 players and the like for Christmas from the far east.

Will take three full 24 hour days to unload her!
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: mv1 on November 08, 2006, 06:06:14 pm
If I have got my maths right, then here are the scale lengths for a model.....

1/24     16.63m     655inches
1/25     15.97m     628.3inches
1/48     8.315m     327.5inches
1/72     5.54m       218.3inches

Some model eh but what a challange, would make a nice club project.

Food for thought

Mark V
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: neilthebus on November 08, 2006, 07:56:38 pm
Man thats big!!

Just been looking at the stats for the engine. A whopping 25,480 litres!!! ??? ??? Get some Tesco points providing the fuel for that beastie
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Guy Bagley on November 10, 2006, 10:13:53 am
boy the danes like 'em big- imagine all the lego coming in on that mother !
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: MTB on November 12, 2006, 09:23:07 pm
They reckon that there are 6 more of these on the slips due to be launched in 2007.

Hopefully Gordon Brown has ordered the other 5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::)

Roy (London)
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Ghost in the shell on November 22, 2006, 10:57:26 pm
boy the danes like 'em big- imagine all the lego coming in on that mother !

you could probably hold a disco INSIDE THE CYLINDER, using the piston as the dancefloor!
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on December 02, 2007, 12:50:47 pm

"The Emma Mærsk is about six–seven weeks delayed. The delay was caused by a devastating fire in the accommodation quarters in the early days of June. A welding job on the main deck, close to the end of working hours, led to a fire that totally destroyed the almost finished accommodation quarters and all the equipment in the wheelhouse. Shipyard Baltija at Klaipeda – where the accommodation quarters were built and equipped – had to speed up the process and then Emma Mærsk was shipped to Odense. Two Dutch floating cranes shifted the quarters in mid July. The old, burnt out quarters were sold to the nearby recycling company H. J. Hansen for demolition." - http://www.shipgaz.com/magazine/issues/2006/16/1606_article.php

Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG0vcDGmCf4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG0vcDGmCf4&feature=related)


Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Tom Eccles on December 02, 2007, 04:50:36 pm
O.K. It's silly question time.

Could someone please tell me what a TEU is?
So far I have come up with Totally Enormous Unit and Two's Enough for Us

Help

Clegg

ORL

Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on December 02, 2007, 05:15:24 pm

GOOD question Clegg!
I've often just overlooked it because I just knew it was something to do with containers but apparently;
TEU = Twenty-foot Equivalent Units

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containerization
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Tom Eccles on December 02, 2007, 06:48:56 pm
Thank you Martin,

Second silly question; What does a twenty foot equivalent unit refer to? is it length, height or is it (as I suspect) a mythical unit used to calculated the loading. As in a TEU is the equivalent of two minis or 20,000 eggs or a pop star's ego? ;D

Cheers Clegg

ORL

Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: funtimefrankie on December 02, 2007, 07:06:14 pm
It's all here  O0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containerization#ISO_container_dimensions_and_payloads
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on December 02, 2007, 07:11:45 pm
see here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Containerization

LB
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on December 02, 2007, 10:27:17 pm
Conventional 20' container ..... 1 x TEU .... well two actually  ;D


For more info - http://www.containersforsale.co.uk/csuk_gallery.html

Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 02, 2007, 10:36:04 pm
Is that your workshop Martin?  ::)
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on December 02, 2007, 10:51:44 pm
No but one would be nice... with a few flower around it to disguise it a bit!
Nice and secure!
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Bunkerbarge on December 02, 2007, 11:09:53 pm
My first trip to sea was on a box boat that was 550 TEU and the second was about 850 TEU and we thought that was big!

Just imagine the fourty foot ones though knocked of the side of the ship by heavy weather, you wouldn't want to be in the way of one of those.

Old containers actually make cracking sheds/workshops/storage rooms etc and go for only a couple of grand.  We use one at Kirklees for our ameneties shed at the pond side and it is about as secure as you are likely to get.
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: tubby tomo on December 02, 2007, 11:42:21 pm
hi ship mates  i dont live a stones throw from tilbury docks at this point in time we have told that the new docks down river near coyrington  will be five time bigger than the old docks so i hope to see some of the bigger ships they will start dredging the mouth of the thames in the nexttwo years
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: tigertiger on December 03, 2007, 07:47:22 am
I will guess the following.

A normal steel container come in two sizes. 20ft and 40ft.

So if I am correct, a 40ft container is 2 TEU.

I have just seen I am the last to post this.

Slow as always
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: CERES on December 03, 2007, 10:06:27 am
 :)During the mid 1960s when I was a bit younger and working as a Shipping Clerk, one of the shipping "News Papers" we received weekly used to have a heading "Hazards at Sea".
This was a report by friegter Captains (mainly North Atlantic) regarding the floating hazards they come accross. Often these were TEU Containers of both sizes. I tried to ascertain if they were empty or full, were they totally waterproof or just trapped air within the stacking of the goods within.
In a few years time the Emma Maersk will rank as small if the builders get their way. Ceres.
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: tigertiger on December 03, 2007, 10:22:55 am
Dumb question.

What happens if the engine breaks down or some other loss of propulsion?

Is there a back up engine/shaft/prop.

Or, what would/could tow her at sea?
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: djrobbo on December 03, 2007, 12:13:11 pm
Hi guys.....even given the size of the dammed thing......put an address and some stamps on it , and i bet royal mail would lose it !!!!!! :D
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Bunkerbarge on December 03, 2007, 12:25:14 pm
Dumb question.

What happens if the engine breaks down or some other loss of propulsion?

Is there a back up engine/shaft/prop.

Or, what would/could tow her at sea?

Thousands upon thousands of ships of all types and sizes have plied the earths shipping lanes with only one engine.  There are numerous back ups incorporated into the designs including the ability to run the engine with one cylinder out of action (we call it "hanging the unit") so no matter what happens at the end of the day it is up to the engineers to "Fix" it and there are not many things that can happen that will incapacitate it beyond repair.  Fuel is one worry but that is segregated so even if one tank becomes contaminated the system can be cleaned out and an alternative used.  The shaft line itself is also a concern but the ship will have spare bearings on board.

I have been "adrift" in my time but you just have to get stuck in, work out what to do and get it fixed.
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: dougal99 on December 03, 2007, 04:12:52 pm
If you read the reference Martin gave it give a comprehensive explanation of TEU etc.  O0

Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: BORIS on December 04, 2007, 10:14:00 pm
i would like to make that at a 1/32 scale
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: cos918 on December 04, 2007, 10:20:15 pm
yer but you would have to launch her like this john
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: bigford on December 05, 2007, 12:07:51 am
cos who's ship is that?? and how big ? ::) scratch's head
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Arrow5 on December 05, 2007, 09:52:45 am
Yes tell us more about that one please! Is it in Germany ?
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: cos918 on December 05, 2007, 10:14:11 pm
hi there sorry found it on the net so no info but i think it from germany. heres the link. john
http://www.ig-spezialschiffe.net/Fleet-pages/IG_sonst_fr.html
Title: Re: Emma Maersk - Look at the size of that!
Post by: Pointy on December 09, 2007, 07:58:55 pm
They will load it full of chinese stuff.......and send it straight here! >>:-(