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Title: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 07:37:05 pm:    Mountfleet's model fishing trawler

   the ST NECTAN

I have purchased one of the most expensive self build craft on the market. I would like to show you how I got on. This will be a 'Wharts and all' type of blog, and I welcome any suggestions and corrections as I go along.

There is not much information on this ship, but I have gathered together as much as I can. Starting with the instructions from the builder himself, right down to a write up in Model Boats.

At the present time, I am up to deck level and now on the interesting parts of the build.

I'll start at the beginning by showing the pictures in chronological order.

First we start with the kit box being opened and spread out to see what's ahead. I laid the hull out aginst the Imara to give a flavour of it's size. Yes, it's nearly 6 foot long.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 07:46:28 pm: Having cut a groove in the hull (always a worrying time !) I inserted a sheet of ply right through the hull and out the other side. This was then epoxied in overnight and allowed to harden.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 07:56:07 pm: The next stage was to fix the internal frame work. As you know, my approach to this is, " if you can't park a lorry on, then it's not strong enough"

Here are the wood structures being built and clamped down. The whole lot was epoxied and again, left overnight.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 08:00:38 pm: The next stage was to design the combings so that the detachable cabins would fit nice and snug. The cabins were lined up and measurements taken. I also found time to fit the rudder.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 08:09:00 pm: The Bow was then laid with a floor and using "Wallace's" idea of Heavy batteries to hold it in place, it was severely glued with more Epoxy. (good job I've got a gallon on the stuff !! face mask time, so I won't show you a picture ok2 )

I busied myself with making yet another Stand. (how many is that now ?) This time I've used the plastic window sill as it has a nice right angle to the plastic and lends itself nicely to this job.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: barryfoote on September 21, 2009, 08:14:16 pm: Kenny,

Yet another great start from you. I am going to really enjoy this build...

Barry :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: SteamboatPhil on September 21, 2009, 08:17:29 pm: Nice one Kenny, now, how are you going to get it in the car ?????
Keep the pics coming :-))
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 08:32:26 pm: Quote from: Footski on September 21, 2009, 08:14:16 pm
Kenny,

Yet another great start from you. I am going to really enjoy this build...

Barry :-)) :-)) :-))

Hi Barry. Thanks for the encouragement. This boat is a "cracker". It's so well designed and the drawings are great. I steaming along (as they say) and regret going to bed some nights.

I work about 8 hours a day and sometimes have a bit of 'overtime'

I have been keeping a picture log and thought I might share this one with you, as I expect it to be the last "Big one" for a while. Her indoors has put a clamp on the 'ol bank account' and spent the last bit on a holiday next week, so I'll be "off air" during the recession !! %)

cheers

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 08:37:32 pm: Quote from: Steamboatphil on September 21, 2009, 08:17:29 pm
Nice one Kenny, now, how are you going to get it in the car ?????
Keep the pics coming :-))

Hi Phil. Thank you for that nice comment. Funny you should notice the size. I certainly did when I collected the 'Box'. It would not fit the Volvo estate until I moved a seat forwards.

I'm hoping it will fit longways, out of the box, without tying the boot down on it. :}

Not much more of the latest pictures to go and then you'll be 'Up to date', and with my holiday next week, you can all have a rest from me. :embarrassed:

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 08:40:30 pm: The combings had dried, so it was time to test the fit.

The motor was then fitted and lined up, along with the rudder controls and lever.

The decks were then cut to shape and test fitted. At last it's beginning to look like a ship.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 08:46:58 pm: Time to get down to to the smaller parts, while waiting for the 'Whale deck to set in the epoxy.

I also laid the top decking ply and weighted it down.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 08:52:25 pm: I'm sorry the Imara keeps 'popping up' in the photo's. I really am running out of space to store them.

onwards .........

A start was made on the trawl winch. I got down my other boat, the Boston Typhoon, for help in how it was done. It's quite a tricky build in it's own right, so worth doing well.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 09:01:49 pm: Yippee .... Paint time.

I do like it when this time arrives. It means we have something to show the wife, for the money.

Unfortunately the first tin of Red Oxide did not contain the advertised contents. It was a mauve type of Blue. Yes, some XXX had changed the lids over in the shop.

I went back and they changed it for me and pointed out that the colour code of the paint on the lid was ALSO stamped on the bottom of the tin. A tip worth remembering when you grap a can yourselves.

Anyway. after a large bit of rubbing down, I resprayed the hull (and almost everything else I could see) with Red Oxide. This is a lovely paint and it brings it all together to make you feel it's worth continuing. :-)
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 09:05:22 pm: It was then on the little winch. This is also a lovely model and much easier to build.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 09:09:44 pm: Another couple of coats were added and while this was drying, I got on with the trawl winch.

The insides of the Bulwarks were fitted out and sprayed Black. Then we added the sheet planking. (yes, I know real planking looks good but there's not enough hours in the day ok2)
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 09:18:02 pm: This is the latest post showing how far we are up to. We now have a black Whale deck and the cabin lined up nicely.

Today was funnel time, but I don't like the way it fits, so am working on a sturdier way attaching it. Also had a go at the Air vents (big uns these !!) but no pictures yet.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: bosun on September 21, 2009, 09:43:00 pm: Hy Ken

Looking good mate, I was going to call over but I am busy with my Ironsider, catch you when you come back from holiday.
By the way, thats a nice looking motor there mate O0 :-)) I got a few of them myself ok2.
Bosun
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 21, 2009, 10:00:04 pm: Hi Bosun

Cheers for that. Yes, we're going Saturday back down to Poole. I'm sure I can snatch a few hours to come over and bother you before I go. I like to slow the competition down. %)

ken

ps Would like to see the lake at Setley Pool, in the new Forest during the week's holiday. Which is the best day to visit, guys.?

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Brian Roberts on September 22, 2009, 12:05:17 am: Hi Ken
You've been a busy lad! The progress made with the St.Nectan in such a short space of time is fantastic, and the description and build itself is a credit to you.
My Imara/Perseverance has remained untouched since I bought the kit a few weeks ago so you've shamed me into making a start on her!!
I'll keep you all informed on the progress.
Brian
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 22, 2009, 12:05:19 pm: Quote from: Brian Roberts on September 22, 2009, 12:05:17 am
Hi Ken
(edit)
My Imara/Perseverance has remained untouched since I bought the kit a few weeks ago so you've shamed me into making a start on her!!
I'll keep you all informed on the progress.
Brian

Hi Brian

I've sent you DVD of my build and launching. Shown on a 40 inch TV, you can really sse the errors. :embarrassed: Still, it might help with how I approached certain things. ;) and I know where all the parts were supposed to go now. (a bit late, some might say !)

cheers
ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 22, 2009, 12:11:11 pm: The paint is now dry on the Trawl winch and anchor winch parts, so I've assembled them.

I went for more dramatic colours in places as they were quite a dark assemblies. A splash of red here and there. I wish I'd wound the rope around the drums before assembly (as recommended in the plans)
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 22, 2009, 12:17:46 pm: Made a start on the rear of the main cabin. This is a raised platform (which is different to the Boston Typhoon), and will house the lifeboats.

I went for 'sturdy again, with hardwood supports, going under the roof, as this section lifts off for access. It will have arms that touch down on the bulwarks, rather like the 'Vliestroom' from Model Slipway.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on September 22, 2009, 12:25:18 pm: I then got on with the Air Vents. These are quite large, so I smoothed the moulding to a nice finish and joined them to the pipes. They should look nice when painted up.

I also cut out the door holes on the rear fish house, ready for fitting some swinging doors. I've located the worlds tiniest hinges, so what can go wrong here. %)
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 07, 2009, 08:00:37 pm: Back from my weeks holiday and straight into the workshop. Things to do, etc.

We got on with the cabin today and promptly drilled the air vent holes at the wrong end, :embarrassed: The vents are temporarily fitted to get a view of things and to check the line up, as their fitting is mentioned as being 'tight behind the funnel.

All the parts and little bits were assembled, ready for paint.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 07, 2009, 08:03:24 pm: The Cabin

The parts were assembled from the drawings and went together rather well The window inserts were cut to shape and fitted.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 07, 2009, 08:05:45 pm: Onwards to the front cabin under the Whale deck. Construction of this had been left until the deck top had been fitted as the measuring had to be done afterwards.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 07, 2009, 08:11:02 pm: The Radar tower proved a challenge. The first attempt came out rather poor, so we scrapped it and started again.

A former was constructed for one side and we used better plastic for a sturdier job. Two side were made on the former and then these were joined together, by using the former inside the structure. We have made little legs and feet to finish off the look.

When dry, it was then sprayed with the 'ol' red oxide.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 07, 2009, 08:19:06 pm: While we had the Oxide paint to hand it was thought best to keep going and spray all the other little parts. As it was night time I didn't want to go out into the garden so it was both doors open and the spray mask on. The fumes afterwards were hanging around, so I called it a night. I hope they settle by morning. :embarrassed:

The kit parts left are getting smaller (hooray) so now we are on the way up. I'm really looking forward to fitting the deck out. ( now where did I put those little fish )
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 09, 2009, 04:58:05 pm: Got on with the top cabin yesterday and fitted surrounding wood around the windows and sprayed it in my favourite colour.

The Radar mast is finished today so this was given the final coat of matt black. The colour on the front wall under the whale deck was changed to white and temporarily fitted for a photo session. The 'holes in the wrong place' have been filled and smoothed over and also covered in the old red oxide. (great stuff this. Can't speak to highly !!)

I've placed all the 'competed' pieces on board and here are a few pictures to show how she will look.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on October 09, 2009, 05:05:23 pm: whats Martin doing on the Roof ? %% >>:-(

peter <*<
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: dan on October 09, 2009, 05:12:11 pm: your not hanging about are you ken :-)) its looking really good so far though O0
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on October 09, 2009, 06:17:46 pm: Looking good Ken, you'll be finished before me at this rate. :-))
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 09, 2009, 08:01:56 pm: Quote from: HS93 on October 09, 2009, 05:05:23 pm
whats Martin doing on the Roof ? %% >>:-(

peter <*<

He's keeping an eye on me :D

I got him from the RNLI shop and thought he might be the correct scale for for my next boat, a 1/12 scale Severn, scratch build.

Wish me luck

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 09, 2009, 08:09:01 pm: Quote from: dan on October 09, 2009, 05:12:11 pm
your not hanging about are you ken :-)) its looking really good so far though O0

Full time job, Dan. It's amazing that even on one of the most expensive kits, there are errors. If the cut out parts are laid against the main drawing, they are the wrong size. This one needs 'artistic licence' to juggle the bits in place. Thank goodness no-one has spotted some of them yet. ;) I'm making notes as I go along to help me or someone else the next time.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 09, 2009, 08:11:52 pm: Quote from: DickyD on October 09, 2009, 06:17:46 pm
Looking good Ken, you'll be finished before me at this rate. :-))

Cheers, Dicky. That's the trouble with being a pianist.. Every song is the like ' Minute Waltz' !! :embarrassed:

How much more have you to do ?

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on October 09, 2009, 08:17:11 pm: Hulls painted, main part of superstructure completed am working on fittings at the moment Ken..
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 10, 2009, 11:29:27 am: It's a nice warm day today so I thought about finishing painting the hull. I've noticed the hand rails have yet to be fitted so I hope the glue dries in time for spraying.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Jim on October 10, 2009, 08:14:22 pm: Hi Ken, Great job, again. I always enjoy your build blogs! Am in awe at the speed you are going on this one.
Have fun, Jim
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 10, 2009, 08:23:27 pm: Hi Jim

Cheers mate. I had a good teacher .... ;)

Took all afternoon to make and secure the capping rails. I'll post a picture when the tape comes off tomorrow.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 14, 2009, 07:40:34 pm: I've placed some of the completed parts on board to get a flavour before we get on with the major spaying.

The simulated planking was given three cups of strong tea. Ideal for simulating dirty planking, so I'm told.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 14, 2009, 07:43:20 pm: Next, we resprayed the Whale deck after securing the stanchions. Then we completed the stanchion and hand rails around the upper cabin. (then we checked the awful spelling on this blog :embarrassed:)
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 14, 2009, 07:46:30 pm: The hull was taped off at the waterline and sprayed matt black. Unfortunately the red oxide suffered a bit when the tape was peeled off.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 14, 2009, 07:47:52 pm: While the paint was drying I got on with fitting the rear upper deck flooring. I do like my clamps. ok2
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 14, 2009, 07:49:21 pm: The completed parts are now being added to the ship and this is as far as I am at present.

The light skin colour on the funnel was approached in a different way this time. I made up a diluted paint in another container and 'washed' it on to the funnel. As it was very weak, this took several applications. ( well over six !! and taking quite a few days between drying time) but the effect was a very smooth 'paint job by brush' I'm well pleased with the results.

I'm now starting on the little men. You can see them in front of the boat with their arm and neck holes drilled out ready for their limbs. (kookey or is it kinky!!)
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on October 14, 2009, 08:10:26 pm: Looking good Ken, way you are going reckon you will need another holiday soon. ok2
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 14, 2009, 08:14:40 pm: No time for that Dicky. Today I had the "Severn" drawings increased to 1:12. :embarrassed:

What a monster. Have you ever built one ? if not, I have the scale drawings at 1:20 if your interested.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on October 14, 2009, 08:21:41 pm: Picking my next one up at the end of the month Ken. :-))

http://www.mountfleetmodels.co.uk/ospray.htm
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 14, 2009, 08:26:17 pm: Wow. Lucky you. I recognise some of the fittings. I do like this manufacturer. The products are good and the instructions talk to you like a friend. It should occupy your mind for many moon. :-))

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 19, 2009, 09:09:10 pm: Started putting on the small completed parts today. What a difference !! She's coming alive at last.

Thought I'd have a go at weathering. Instructions say to paint the surface mild yellow. Then brush over with wood stain. Then when tacky, to scrape with a dry brush in a wavy pattern.

Unfortunately, I had first sprayed over with red oxide. The whole lot went into a mulch and I ended up dabbing with a bristle brush. Here is the result the following day when it all dried. I must admit I do like it and will keep it on the model. Kinda looks severe weathering and ready for the scrap heap type of boat now. (but it IS different, says 'er indoors') %)
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 23, 2009, 07:19:35 pm: Been busy putting more bits'n'pieces on. The mast was fitted and epoxied into a wood block underneath, and the three lights tested. Ooh er !! only two light up now. Somewhere in the mast is a break in the wire. It's now to late to repair, so she sails on the midnight tide with only two white lights for'd. What does this mean then, you nautical people ?

The rear mast was also secured, but doesn't have built in lights, so all's well there.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: ajb68 on October 23, 2009, 07:22:17 pm: In answer to your question regarding the lights the meaning is 1 AINT WORKING :-))
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 23, 2009, 07:27:51 pm: Thanks Andy. I like that. It sounds like me all over. :-))

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 23, 2009, 07:30:07 pm: Today I decided on a colour change of deck. The Whale deck and roof of the rear cabin, along with the roof and mast were changed to a lighter blue/grey. I think it enhances the boat a lot better.

There are quite a few railings to make, so these were started. I am using the "lay it out on the bench and glue them together first", type of approach and will drill the holes in the deck to match later.

ps Andy. Does this mean I don't have to make them nets and trawl about. ok2

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 23, 2009, 07:35:32 pm: The Fish storage section was cut and fitted, and was stained, rather than painted. I have to remove the top boards and drill hand holes in each piece, to complete the job.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: ajb68 on October 23, 2009, 07:38:59 pm: Shes looking really nice there Ken ,maybe i will get to see her in action one day :D we aint that far apart (not in a straight line anyway ) keep up the good work :-))
Regards Andy
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 23, 2009, 07:54:10 pm: Thanks Andy. I haven't been down there for years. Maybe one day.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: ajb68 on October 23, 2009, 08:05:00 pm: I plan on doing the rounds so to speak next summer , have tent will travel :} wouldnt be surprised if i came up to your neck of the woods she gets a holiday and i get to sail me boat :-))
Regards Andy
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 23, 2009, 08:12:01 pm: Your welcome to call any time and see my fleet. I could also point you to our local lakes.

I've just realised where you are, only I have a friend in Starcross (Exeter) who didn't want his jig saw any more. Doh!!

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on October 23, 2009, 08:13:10 pm: Coming on nicely Ken, though I think I might beat you as I have nearly finished mine, well, apart from the electrics.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: ajb68 on October 23, 2009, 08:15:25 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on October 23, 2009, 08:12:01 pm
Your welcome to call any time and see my fleet. I could also point you to our local lakes.

I've just realised where you are, only I have a friend in Starcross (Exeter) who didn't want his jig saw any more. Doh!!

ken

jigsaw , or fret saw ?
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 23, 2009, 08:24:43 pm: It's a Scroll Saw and the same model as mine shown below. I'm getting a band saw from Machine Mart as well, now that I'm into woodworking a bit more. Makes a change from repairing Electronic Organs. My hands (that do dishes) are not as soft as they used to be. :D
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: ajb68 on October 23, 2009, 08:27:07 pm: Dumb question but whats the difference between a scroll saw and a fret saw ? {:-{
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 23, 2009, 08:27:47 pm: Quote from: DickyD on October 23, 2009, 08:13:10 pm
Coming on nicely Ken, though I think I might beat you as I have nearly finished mine, well, apart from the electrics.

I've got you then !!!!

ken

ps I do seem to be clocking along........ :embarrassed: I'll slow down and let you go on. ;)
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 23, 2009, 08:31:06 pm: Quote from: AndyBailey on October 23, 2009, 08:27:07 pm
Dumb question but what's the difference between a scroll saw and a fret saw ? {:-{

I should imagine the fret saw was a hand tool. My great grandfather built one on a bicycle frame, which you peddled and worked your wood on a little table on the handlebars.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Bryan Young on October 24, 2009, 08:08:11 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on October 23, 2009, 08:31:06 pm
I should imagine the fret saw was a hand tool. My great grandfather built one on a bicycle frame, which you peddled and worked your wood on a little table on the handlebars.

ken

The word "fret" has many connotations....one of which is just prior to anger, an emotion well known to users of these things. BY.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 26, 2009, 08:53:10 pm: We have fitted the railings all around the ship, now that the paint has dried. I must say this method of making them on the bench and then placing them on is much easier than doing it on the boat.

The lifeboats are from the R,N,L,I. I like them and might use them. (saves making them !!)

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 26, 2009, 08:55:01 pm: The wooden hand rails are in the process of being cut and were not ready for the photo shoot ! ok2

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on October 26, 2009, 09:12:13 pm: Still steaming ahead Ken. I have just ordered my electrics from Dave so depending on the PO I might beat you yet.

Yours is looking good though. :-))
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 26, 2009, 09:31:04 pm: Thank you Dicky. It's getting heavier by the hour. I nearly dropped it yesterday when the Missis came in with my tea and frightened me by speaking suddenly !!. I was turning it around on the bench at the time. %)

On picture 4556 you can see my first attempt at the upper rear deck supports. I don't like 'their way of doing it' so I'm designing a better support. ( in the stronger vein, as it it has to lift off with the deck) I have some wood propped under to get the angles as they vary towards the rear. (always something to think about on this boat building lark !!)

Electrics from Dave eh !! You'll be up and running first all-right.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 29, 2009, 07:24:43 pm: Time to complete the lifeboat Davits. All four were made in a production line type of assembly and glued and left overnight. Today I sprayed them white and will let them dry before fitting them on deck. The original lifeboats have been primed and sprayed white and are waiting in the wings. I decided these looked more original than the substitutes I had lined up.

The rear deck supports have been made and fixed on. I used an alloy bracket up underneath and glued wood supports to reach down to handrail. They just touch the tops and are lifted off with the complete rear cabin assembly to access the innards. I have painted them white and they look a reasonable facsimile of the real boat.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: shıp110 on October 29, 2009, 07:31:49 pm: beautiful model, good workmanship :-))
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 29, 2009, 07:39:18 pm: Thank you very much. It's a lonely life in the workshop all day. ok2

I'm waiting for my Chinese electric lights before I can complete the Bridge, and seal down the roof. I'm moving away from LED's as they don't have the realistic glow of an oil light, so I've ordered some tiny filament bulbs. (how can they make them for twopence ?)

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on October 29, 2009, 08:05:47 pm: Excellent job Ken, well worked out, the deck supports look fine. :-))
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 30, 2009, 06:57:44 pm: I've got some bits left over. %) Don't we all have this problem.

Here's a picture of them. They are numbered to recognise which ones you can identify.

Help

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 30, 2009, 07:01:40 pm: The lifeboat davits were finished off and fixed in today. Now I have to be more careful turning her around on the bench. ok2 I've also added a splash of brown to the little capstan wheels on the upper deck, as I thought it was a lot of white showing.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: bosun on October 30, 2009, 08:02:59 pm: Hy Ken
Have sent you a PM
Bosun
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: BrianCartwright on October 31, 2009, 04:32:44 pm: Hi ,Ken

I've just dug out my St.Nectan plan,the memory's not what it used to be.
Item one fit inside the hull for the foremast rigging and no.2 are glued to the flat spaces for the rigging ropes.
Item three are pullies for the net ropes and are number 228 and 229.Can't help you with the the others. To be honest I have quite a few bits left over that I couldnt identify.
I like your fotos,your making an excellent job of the boat.Your blog must have taken a long time too.I must think about doing one myself on my new build which is an MFM Cruiser tug.I'm about 2 months into it,should be finished for next spring.
Best of luck Ken
Regards Brian
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 31, 2009, 08:28:30 pm: Thank you guys. Just the info I needed. I can see it now on the drawings. My oh my, aren't the parts tiny. :embarrassed:

Now I can get on and put some more bits on her. Cheers

Yesterday I painted the Whale deck edging with several coats of white. I thought the colour was a bit severe, but that's what was called for. I hope to dull it down with a bit of weathering.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 31, 2009, 08:30:16 pm: Then it was on to finishing the Gallows
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on October 31, 2009, 08:33:01 pm: Today I fitted the completed rear masts and their pivot frames to the rear lower deck. Also, I drilled the cabin sides and fitted the hand rails. I've decided not to paint such small parts as they are easily messed up.

Here's a picture of the lifebelts and sundries all waiting in the wings.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 06, 2009, 05:14:32 pm: Time to get on with the rigging.

We made a frame of nails on the work board and drew the cotton wire around to secure it. The cross hatches were then cut and tied to the centre wire and glued. When dry, the outside ends were tied across and also glued.

The ends were attached to the rigging screws and connecting frame. The complete assembly was then fitted onto the main mast and secured.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 06, 2009, 05:19:15 pm: It was now time to fix the little pieces that had been painted and made ready.

The screen wire net was secured around the railings and the handrail drilled out and fixed around the side of the cabin. Also fitted wre the lights up under the bridge, to shine down on the decks.

Here are the latest pictures so far.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 06, 2009, 05:22:25 pm: A couple of 'mood' pictures showing the general position of the build so far.

It's off to the Warwick boat show for inspiration. ;)

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on November 06, 2009, 08:14:09 pm: Still flying along Ken, its looking really good and those lifeboats look better than the others.

Looks like you might still beat me to the water. >>:-(
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: John W E on November 06, 2009, 08:17:43 pm: Nice build Ken ,it is looking really smart :-))

aye

john
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Voyager on November 06, 2009, 08:59:21 pm: You don't hang about building do you :o It's a lovely lookin model, can't wait to see the on the water pictures.

Voyager
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 06, 2009, 09:31:13 pm: Quote from: DickyD on November 06, 2009, 08:14:09 pm
Still flying along Ken, its looking really good and those lifeboats look better than the others.

Looks like you might still beat me to the water. >>:-(

Thanks Dicky. I like the lifeboats as well. I plan to fit them out, rather than have just covers on them. Hope it's a dry day at your lake. ok2

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 06, 2009, 09:32:46 pm: Quote from: Bluebird on November 06, 2009, 08:17:43 pm
Nice build Ken ,it is looking really smart :-))

aye

john

Thanks John. I like this one. If only I could lift it off the table. I broke the lifeboat davit off today and had to re glue it. %)

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 06, 2009, 09:34:46 pm: Quote from: Voyager on November 06, 2009, 08:59:21 pm
You don't hang about building do you :o It's a lovely lookin model, can't wait to see the on the water pictures.

Voyager

Thanks, Voyager. Should be sailing by next week. Motors and rudder and R/C are in. I'm still waiting for my Chinese lights and a switcher for them.

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: BrianCartwright on November 07, 2009, 05:20:01 pm: Hi Ken
I've picked up one or two things off your boat.I completely missed the companion way,can't believe it.Also I didn't fit the flood lights on the front of the wheelhouse as it gave no clue where they went.
Question! Have you really built this boat from September to now?. If so I really salute you.It took me about ten months to complete mine,mind you it's the first boat of this calibre I have have ever built.
Yours does look the business,great.Over all I think the St. Nectan builds into an awsome beast.
Best of luck with your first sailing.

regards Brian
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on November 07, 2009, 05:26:25 pm: Just tested my Al Khubar in the paddling pool Ken and with the P94 on mode 3 it's awesome.
All going well now and sorted, just got to wait for fine weather and a helper for the maiden voyage. :-))
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 07, 2009, 08:24:27 pm: Quote from: BrianCartwright on November 07, 2009, 05:20:01 pm
Hi Ken
I've picked up one or two things off your boat.I completely missed the companion way,can't believe it.Also I didn't fit the flood lights on the front of the wheelhouse as it gave no clue where they went.

The drawings are a bit 'scant' aren't they. I used pictures from Model Boats magazine a few years back , to aid me several times. I've drilled the floodlight fixing arms with a 1.2 mm drill ready for wiring up. (if I can see the hole to put the wire through ! )

Quote
Question! Have you really built this boat from September to now?. If so I really salute you.It took me about ten months to complete mine,mind you it's the first boat of this calibre I have have ever built.

Yes, it's sad, I know. I really like to get my teeth into a project. ok2

Quote
Yours does look the business,great.Over all I think the St. Nectan builds into an awesome beast.
Best of luck with your first sailing.

Thanks Brian. I still think your is better built then mine.

I shall probably sail her for the regulation half hour to film her for 'You Tube' then it's on the shelf with the others. %)

Went to the Warwick show today, specifically to get some decent rigging screws, but none available any where. Do you, or anyone know where I can obtain them, please. They are 35mm long.

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 07, 2009, 08:26:22 pm: Quote from: DickyD on November 07, 2009, 05:26:25 pm
Just tested my Al Khubar in the paddling pool Ken and with the P94 on mode 3 it's awesome.
All going well now and sorted, just got to wait for fine weather and a helper for the maiden voyage. :-))

It's the P100 next for you, Dicky. I've seen it working. AWESOME. We'll all want one.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on November 08, 2009, 09:49:53 am: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on November 07, 2009, 08:26:22 pm
It's the P100 next for you, Dicky. I've seen it working. AWESOME. We'll all want one.

ken

Great, BUT WHAT IS IT ?
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: John W E on November 08, 2009, 10:13:13 am: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdfO657zHNY&feature=related
Dicky this is just one sounds it can do

john
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 08, 2009, 11:02:20 am: Quote from: Bluebird on November 08, 2009, 10:13:13 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdfO657zHNY&feature=related
Dicky this is just one sounds it can do

john

That's what we all thought at the show. :} :} :}

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on November 08, 2009, 12:38:31 pm: Quote from: Bluebird on November 08, 2009, 10:13:13 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdfO657zHNY&feature=related
Dicky this is just one sounds it can do

john
But how many people are going to want a Rolls Royce Griffin aero engine sound ? {:-{
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: John W E on November 08, 2009, 12:50:28 pm: Hi Dicky

that is just one of many sound effects that may be produced by this unit :-)) if you want a steam engine blowing raspberry ripples after its eaten beans it can produce that if you want - as long as you have the sound file %% %% %%

I think this may just put the JJC sound units to shame along with a few other units which are on the market :-)) ;) :-) :-) :-) :-)

why aye man
John
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: awvs on November 08, 2009, 01:07:32 pm: Hi Tug -- Kenny,
congratulations, what a beautiful model. Well done, great job :-)) I am looking forward seeing the pictures of the maiden voyage.

Kind regards
Wilhelm
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: BrianCartwright on November 08, 2009, 04:24:21 pm: Ken,
Can't help you with the rigging screws.

I went to Warwick yesterday too.It's a great show,my first time.
Waiting outside for them to open I was amazed at what was before me,A sea of grey/white heads ,fortunately i blended in very well.
I don't know what the average age was but the total in years must have run into 5 figures.I think I only saw about 4 or five youngsters,
It makes me wonder where the building side of modelling is going to go.Most youngsters seem to want instant this and instant that today, It's the same with aeromdelling as well though. They don't know what they are missing but trying to get the message across is an uphill struggle.
Ah,well,I suppose I'll continue plodding on,Nothing stays the same forever.

Brian
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: dan on November 08, 2009, 05:40:53 pm: looking good ken, cant wait to see it in the flesh O0
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 08, 2009, 07:50:06 pm: Quote from: awvs on November 08, 2009, 01:07:32 pm
Hi Tug -- Kenny,
congratulations, what a beautiful model. Well done, great job :-)) I am looking forward seeing the pictures of the maiden voyage.

Kind regards
Wilhelm

Thank you for the compliments, Wilhelm. I'm enjoying the build.

Today I started on the 'Electrics. I have fitted a hidden switch in the fish boxes on the sunken deck (perhaps I shouldn't use THAT word !). This will enable the power, on & off, to the boat without lifting the rear structure, as this is always a pain at the lake side.

The new R/C is being sited along with the Esc unit under the rear cabin. We should be sailing by next weekend.

I've also started on fitting out the lifeboats. The original plans show them covered in Tarpaulin, but I like them open with the oars and ropes showing.

As it was freezing today, I called it off at 3 o'clock to come in the warm house, and forgot to take some pictures.

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 08, 2009, 07:52:16 pm: Quote from: dan on November 08, 2009, 05:40:53 pm
looking good ken, cant wait to see it in the flesh O0

Cheers Dan. You're welcome to call around any time and have a look. I didn't come to the lake on Sunday as it was rather cold out there. Maybe next weekend !

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: dan on November 08, 2009, 07:53:54 pm: thanks ken, i havent been to the lake for a weeks, im not sure if the club sorted everything out with the council yet {:-{
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Netleyned on November 09, 2009, 06:40:10 pm: Ref Rigging Screws
Scoonies do a fair few
Is 35mm Length overall
as Scoonies are measured by
barrel length
They do up to 28mm

Your Aye
Ned
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 09, 2009, 07:21:47 pm: Quote from: netleyned on November 09, 2009, 06:40:10 pm
Ref Rigging Screws
Scoonies do a fair few
Is 35mm Length overall
as Scoonies are measured by
barrel length
They do up to 28mm

Your Aye
Ned

Great information, Ned. I've downloaded their catalogue. Thank you very much. :-))

Seems the screws I'm after are called Turnbuckles. Just the thing for keeping the tension on the wires.

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Netleyned on November 09, 2009, 07:44:23 pm: Hi Ken
Glad to be of help
I'm new to all this but I have
nothing but admiration for you
guys who build such fantastic
models
Hopefully when I learn to be patient
and work more slowly I will manage
a reasonable result

Yors aye
Ned
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: ajb68 on November 09, 2009, 09:25:29 pm: Looks great ken , keep up the good work O0 :-))
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 09, 2009, 09:41:56 pm: Quote from: AndyBailey on November 09, 2009, 09:25:29 pm
Looks great ken , keep up the good work O0 :-))

Thanks , Andy. I'm plodding along now I'm near the end. Those little lifeboats took all day, and I forgot to film the process again.

I has a sharp reminder of the power of superglue, today. I was squeezing a Rollock holder against the side of the lifeboat with superglue and when I came to let go, I couldn't.

It's funny how panic sets in and you struggle even harder to get free. I succeeded in tearing the skin off the end of my main modelling finger. Never mind as I used superglue to mend back again. After all, that's what it was designed for , I suppose. 8)

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: ajb68 on November 09, 2009, 09:53:48 pm: note to self AVOID GETTING SUPER GLUE ON YOUR ROLLOCKS O0 ITS GOTTA HURT O0 :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :-))
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 10, 2009, 02:15:30 pm: ;)

I think it's spelt Rowlocks. Still hurt though.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Netleyned on November 10, 2009, 06:39:27 pm: In RN whalers and cutters
(the rowing kind ) they were called
crutches.
Different spelling again!
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: ajb68 on November 10, 2009, 08:20:20 pm: I know what i meant and no matter how you spell it its gonna bring tears to your eyes :} :} :} ;) :-))
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 20, 2009, 11:57:21 am: I have been busy with the ropes on the lifeboats for the the last couple of days and here's the end result. Quite a fiddly job I've found. I glued the ropes in as I went along because they were springing all over the place. ok2

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 20, 2009, 12:02:10 pm: Then it was on the motor 'whining' problem. I've finally solved it.

The answer is to wrap the motor in Piano felt and 'Bostic' it down. When dry it was mounted on the floor with elastic bands. I've fitted adjustable wooden beams to each side and adjusted the position when the motor was running.

I now have a 'Run silent' motor, and smooth running as well with the MMB rubber drive shaft.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 20, 2009, 12:03:46 pm: When the cabin was off, I took this picture to give you an idea of how long St Nectan is.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 20, 2009, 12:08:53 pm: Then it was on to the re-spray I had been promising myself. The original paintwork was looking a bit shabby. A few bumps and knocks from turning her around on the bench, so I masked off the upper deck and resprayed her with Black silk aerosole paint.

As the weather was a bit inclement, I brought her into the the workshop and ran the hot air blower over the paint to assist the drying. Tomorrow I shall redo the Red oxide lower section.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Bryan Young on November 20, 2009, 02:45:18 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on November 20, 2009, 11:57:21 am
I have been busy with the ropes on the lifeboats for the the last couple of days and here's the end result. Quite a fiddly job I've found. I glued the ropes in as I went along because they were springing all over the place. ok2

ken

Haven't you got the boats back to front? They would (in all cases I've seen) be stowed bows forward. Otherwise lovely. BY.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: derekwarner on November 20, 2009, 03:03:42 pm: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yes Ken......BY is 100% correct here :D ......

Another point I noted a few weeks back........the bilge keels appear to be VERY thick in section & high up on the hull structure....or above the nominal 45 degree location.......but I have not seen the plans.........Derek
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on November 20, 2009, 04:37:33 pm: Looking good Ken, afraid they are right about the lifeboats.

The bilge keel position was already marked on the hull I believe.

An excellent job Ken still think you will beat me to it.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Bryan Young on November 21, 2009, 03:34:15 pm: Ken, sorry if I've made you do the gnashing of teeth bit. But if you had put the model into a competition and only then had the error pointed out I think you'd feel a lot worse than you probably do right now. Assuming that you will be removing and turning the boats around, can I suggest a couple of other things to do while your'e at it? Take the boat rudders off and stow them in the boats. This was SOP, perhaps liners and some others leave the rudders on, but they are easily damaged when lowering...which is why life-boats have a "steering oar". This item is longer than a standard rowing oar, and to differentiate and make recognition in the dark easier, "good practice" has the steering oar housed with the blade pointing aft, and the rowing oars towed with blades pointing forward. I know that fishermen are a law unto themselves, but given the work they do in hazardous conditions I can't believe they would neglect such basic seamanship. Regards. Bryan.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 21, 2009, 04:54:03 pm: Thanks for the info' Brian. It's all in hand, as I want to get it right. I didn't get an extra long oar with the kit, so I'll make one and fit it like you say. :-))

Started rigging the rear mast today. I've run out ropes to the arms along the sides of the boat, and it's beginning to look the part now.

As the Bottle screws are rather expensive, I've decided to make my own.

I used alloy tube cut to lengths and inserted 3mm screws into each end. The heads were hammered flat and drilled with 1.5mm holes and then sanded around to a curve shape.

The deck mounting brackets do not have the strength of chewing gum, so I'm designing a better fixing part to attach these to the deck.

ps You can just see the lifeboat facing for'd. All ready for the sinking now %)

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: John W E on November 21, 2009, 05:08:44 pm: hi Ken the build is looking spot on ,I wish the penny had dropped in my head as to what you where after %% as dead eyes warwicks, & fastenings are pretty simple to make :-)) I use 1/16 overall diameter (o/d) brass tube and copper wire to make these. I bend the eyes with round nosed pliers and if I want the eyes to be strong I just put a dab of solder on - I have attached a pic - which I pinched of me Whaleback build :-)) - shows how I made them for that model. Hope this helps - I know its a bit late now mate, sorry for that.

aye
john e
bluebird
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 21, 2009, 05:22:47 pm: That's the stuff, John. It all revolved around making the 'ring' with a hole in it. I bashed the screw heads until they expanded wider than the threads. Then ground two flat sides on them. It took 4 drills to complete the little holes as the metal was a bit tough !!

They supply a U shaped piece of white metal with a prong to insert in the deck, to fix these to and its not strong enough, so this is what I have to make next.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: ajb68 on November 21, 2009, 06:55:56 pm: Looking very good Kenny :-)) keep up the good work its nice to see such a well built model ;)

Regards Andy
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 22, 2009, 01:43:26 pm: Thanks Andy. I'm getting to the end now. Today I ran some rigging from my new bottle screws and it sets it off luverly.

The sun came out, so I set up the dustbin in the garden as a photo stand, but by the time I got the boat set up, it went in !!

I took a few pictures before it started to rain and all that she needs now is lower respray with red oxide and wire up the lights.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: tolnedra on November 22, 2009, 01:47:17 pm: She's looking really good, Kenny, some 'on the water' photos next?

Danny
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on November 22, 2009, 01:50:33 pm: Really nice Ken.

Large isnt it.

Is your good lady up to lugging it about for you ? {:-{
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 22, 2009, 01:57:04 pm: Quote from: tolnedra on November 22, 2009, 01:47:17 pm
She's looking really good, Kenny, some 'on the water' photos next?

Danny

Thanks Danny. I was going to the lake this morning until it started to rain. Maybe soon. I have yet to do a float test and do not really know how low she will sit. I'd better take some extra batteries just in case.

She will have the regulation 20 minute sail then go on the shelf while I make the 'You Tube' video.

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 22, 2009, 02:01:19 pm: Quote from: DickyD on November 22, 2009, 01:50:33 pm
Really nice Ken.

Large isn't it.

Is your good lady up to lugging it about for you ? {:-{

Thanks Dicky and Yes, she is willing to help.

She also said "had I the next boat to build" as she had the television programs worked out for the winter, and didn't want me around, under her feet. Cheeky girl. {-)

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on November 22, 2009, 02:08:07 pm: I am ordering my next one tomorrow.

Was going for the maiden voyage of my tug this morning as it was sunny when I got up, 10 mins later couldn't see across the road for rain.

Cant sail next Sunday as I'm visiting my daughter in Hastings, so it looks like you will beat me to it.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 22, 2009, 02:18:44 pm: Yes, It's lashing down here as well.

Reminded me to varnish the decks before I go anywhere near water. {-)

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 11, 2009, 06:23:25 pm: Nearly there

Today I finished off the lighting. There are now over 20 Led's in the cabins and the Radar is motorised and working.

The wire bulbs have finally arrived from China (after these pictures were taken !!) so they will be fitted under the bridge deck as floodlights for the decks.

I've drilled out the epoxy windows and substituted plastic sheets and these give a clearer view inside.

I shall be going to the water very soon, If I can find the Prop. ok2

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Marks Model Bits on December 11, 2009, 06:54:45 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on December 11, 2009, 06:23:25 pm

I shall be going to the water very soon, If I can find the Prop. ok2

ken

The prop is usually at the back Ken, thats the blunt bit!!!!!

Looks good though, I will have to come round and have a proper look soon.

Mark.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 11, 2009, 07:06:37 pm: I took it off for the respray and forgot to replace it umph!!

Come on down. We are always open.

ps can you bring some more of those magnetic clips for rigging please.

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: bosun on December 11, 2009, 07:11:15 pm: Hey Mark
I would,nt rush round to Ken,s, he is going to need someome to carry it for him, so if I were you I would just wait for the phone call, %) I,ve seen it, and it is an impresive boat, I do know one thing, if he calls me I think I am going to be out for the day, after all I do have a bad back.
Only joking Ken :} you have done a tidy job on that one mate.
Bosun
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 11, 2009, 07:16:05 pm: Thank you Terry. Now I have two of you, I can direct operations. :}

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Marks Model Bits on December 11, 2009, 07:17:05 pm: I'm going out now...... I may be gone for quite a while!!! O0 O0 O0

Thanks for the warning mate.... Looks like it will be a bit heavy!!

How many magnetic dooh dahs do youo need?

Mark.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 11, 2009, 07:19:47 pm: 4 sets please.

These are excellent for joining the rigging on a removable top sections, and I recommend them to members.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: bosun on December 11, 2009, 07:33:15 pm: Mark
I,m gonna need a couple of your couplings, and some magnetic fittings as well, I will give you a ring later.
Ken did you get the small cable for the lights.
Bosun
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on December 11, 2009, 08:06:31 pm: Looking good Ken, weather permitting mine should get its maiden voyage this weekend. :-))
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 11, 2009, 09:00:27 pm: Quote

Ken did you get the small cable for the lights.
Bosun

Yes, I got two reels of twin mini cable. Great stuff, if you can see the wires in the middle. :} I have been using it for the lighting loom. :-))

I'll put up some pictures and show how tiny it is.

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 11, 2009, 09:02:09 pm: Quote from: DickyD on December 11, 2009, 08:06:31 pm
Looking good Ken, weather permitting mine should get its maiden voyage this weekend. :-))

Hi Dicky

The race is on ok2

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Marks Model Bits on December 11, 2009, 09:23:38 pm: You want to borrow a prop then Ken!!! Or have you found it now %% %% %% :-)) :-)) :-))

Mark.
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 12, 2009, 10:43:38 am: Quote from: No Mustang Mark on December 11, 2009, 09:23:38 pm
You want to borrow a prop then Ken!!! Or have you found it now %% %% %% :-)) :-)) :-))

Mark.

Hi Mark
I found it yippee. %) It had gone over the side of the bench into the spare wood pile. I had to pull it all out and there it was. Phew!

It looks lovely sunny weather today so I'm going to try a launch all by myself, away from prying eyes. 8)

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: DickyD on December 12, 2009, 10:50:51 am: Watch your back Ken. ;)
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 12, 2009, 11:03:09 am: I've just walked the dog up to the Canal pond to check the situation. Father Christmas is there along with a few people in the canal museum shop, so I could have problems with "Kids". {:-{

They have cleared the weeds and it looks so good I may go when sun is above the trees. I thought I might take Imara as well with a big rope. :}

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: jenno on December 12, 2009, 11:16:34 am: Yet another masterpiece from the Tug Kenny ship yard can't wait to see it at one of our shows.

Jenno
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 12, 2009, 03:13:15 pm: Cheers, Jenno

I'll be there, if the rain keeps off. ok2

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 12, 2009, 04:08:24 pm: I'm back from the pond. Smashing weather. Sun and calm (and freezing cold)

Here she is taking off from the jetty. I had the camera set onto 'still photos' and didn't realise till I came back in.... hmphh!! Never mind, we got into the wet stuff.

She sails a bit top heavy and nearly flipped over on the turn, so it was back home sharpish. I shall be lead lining her to drop the weight lower before I go out again.

All in all, a smashing boat to drive. A bit of a crowd puller as well. I almost expected to see Santa to leave his Grotto and come down to the water. Pity the bloke who helped me lift her and broke the rear flag mast and trawl boards off. <*<

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 12, 2009, 04:10:06 pm: I also enclose a few pictures of the lighting inside the cabin for various folks who have enquired. They are 3mm Led's all wired in parallel through dropper resistors. You can also see the radar motor which is a bit of overkill, but it did have suitable gearing.

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 12, 2009, 11:08:04 pm: The build video is now up and running on You Tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncCIYDOiYik
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: artisan100 on December 16, 2009, 08:34:10 pm: Excellent build and excellent video.

Now that you have the experience, which make of surgical truss would you recommend wearing when lifting it in and out of the water. %)

Geoff
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 17, 2009, 11:55:39 am: Thanks Geoff. I enjoy building these 'Big uns'

Launching is quite easy. %)

I first of all remove the cabin and batteries (all three 7 amp/hr !) and just launch the hull with truss straps. The heavy stuff is put in afterwards. I suppose the total weight must be around 45 Lbs or so.

There are still the fine details needed to complete her, but I was rather exited at the first sail before Christmas. I didn't sail far as she tended to tilt alarmingly on the corners, so perhaps another battery or some sheet lead on the floor.

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Hobie21 on December 23, 2009, 01:49:28 pm: Hi Ken, I'm building a St Nectan using a Cheddar Proteus steam engine. I'm in a wheelchair so you can imagine the fun I'm having. I had a brass rudder system made up to replace the cast one. You building comments will be of a great help to me.
Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 23, 2009, 02:31:17 pm: Hi Hobie Ken,

I shall be here.

The only comment that comes to mind is you're gonna need some weight in the front section as she is stern heavy. All the weight is in the cabin.

Mountfleet's suggestion is to make a flat floor all the way to the bows (as low as possible) fitted with width guides centrally. This way, you can slide anything backwards or forwards to balance her up. ( a steam module springs to mind)

Hope this helps. Don't forget, we all like pictures on Mayhem. :-))

ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Hobie21 on December 24, 2009, 03:10:47 pm: Hi Ken,
I will attempt to place some build photos on the site. You may notice I will place the water tank and a pair of batteries forward.
Have a good Christmas. By the way I am just over the 'river' from you in Somerset.
Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Hobie21 on December 24, 2009, 06:54:49 pm: Hi Ken,
I'm still looking for my St Nectan photo's. In the meantine here are some photo's of my first build. It is a rowing dory called Oscar - the children love to see him rowing by.
Best regards,
Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 25, 2009, 10:24:01 am: I do like your rower. :-))

I've fancied making one myself. Might get around to it next year.

ps, Our family originally came from Curry Mallet, near Taunton, many years ago.

Happy new year

Ken

pps What am I doing on here on Christmas day %% Just cleared the snow from the transport ready for the big trip and now frozen to the core. My good lady suggested a short break in the computer room before we go . O0
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Hobie21 on December 27, 2009, 01:49:45 pm: Happy New Year Ken
Ken
Somerset :-)
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Hobie21 on January 05, 2010, 02:21:17 pm: Hi Ken,
Here are photos of my brass rudder which replaces the cast one supplied in the St. Nectan kit. A friend of mine suggested this to avoid damage during transit or by those pesky rc submarines!
Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Hobie21 on January 05, 2010, 02:45:05 pm: Hi Ken,
Sorry about the size of the rudder..........here are (I hope) larger pictures.
Ken :embarrassed:
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: bosun on January 05, 2010, 04:16:59 pm: Hy Hobie
Nice job,
have you got the gap wide enough for the stern tube to fit, ( maybe it,s just the angle on the pic ) I live just down the road from Ken., and that St Nectan of his is a big boat, will watch your build with interest.
Bosun
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 05, 2010, 07:49:34 pm: A nice 'Proper' build. The cast ones are a little weak. I also found the turning circle was not very sharp on mine and considered changing the rudder myself, but it's too much work now it's glued in.

Ken
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Hobie21 on January 06, 2010, 12:22:32 pm: %)
Best regards,
Ken
Somerset Cider is good for you.....!
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Hobie21 on January 06, 2010, 12:32:51 pm: Hi Bosun,
Sorry my previous message got chopped off!
I now have the rudder installed and it swings just fine. It seems the angle of the photo was deceptive.
All the best,
Ken Somerset Cider......................OOOHLALA {-)
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Hobie21 on January 06, 2010, 12:37:31 pm: Hi Ken,
I have a blowtorch which may help you remove your rudder! ;)
Best regards
Ken
Knee deep in snow here
Title: Re: St Nectan build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 06, 2010, 01:25:59 pm: That's one thing I don't own. ok2

It's 3 degrees C in my shed so the missis said I could come in the house. I've just taken the dog for a trek in the snow. I think it's even too cold for epoxy to set, so it's relax in front of the computer, meethinks

Cheers

Ken