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Title: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 04, 2009, 02:27:04 am
Hi I need help!!!I have just started building the Ark at 1/144 scale, using ship builder plans purchased from NMM ,and although I have got some photos of her many details elude me  ,manly the port side profile details ,lifts and the rear part of the island superstructure,especially after her refit  .Any help or guidance would most appreciated. I tried to download a couple of photos to show progess but it went a bit pear shaped,will try to figure out and add later
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: maninthestreet on October 04, 2009, 03:21:56 pm
Hi I need help!!!I have just started building the Ark at 1/144 scale, using ship builder plans purchased from NMM ,and although I have got some photos of her many details elude me  ,manly the port side profile details ,lifts and the rear part of the island superstructure,especially after her refit  .Any help or guidance would most appreciated. I tried to download a couple of photos to show progess but it went a bit pear shaped,will try to figure out and add later

Is this Ark Royal from the 1950s,60s and 70s, the one featured in the BBC 'Sailor'documentary series???
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: gingyer on October 04, 2009, 06:29:13 pm
the one from the 50's is Ark Royal IV

if you are looking for Ark III then you maybe best getting the
Airfix model to give some guidance :-))

If it is Ark Royal IV then I havesome good info I have been
getting alot of stuff together to build it in 1:72nd scale :-))
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: keef666 on October 04, 2009, 06:45:53 pm
I have a mate who's building one from the 1960's Ark Royal, [ picture in this months Navy News Oct 09] and he had a hell of a problem trying to get plans,  he was offered a set but were going to cost a few hundred pounds, in the end he got a set from Wirral Archives in Birkenhead, as she was built at Lairds, and they keep a lot of information so i am told,  but as you are building a 1950 Ark this is useless information to you, unless she was built a Lairds as well.
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: DickyD on October 04, 2009, 07:23:51 pm
the one from the 50's is Ark Royal IV

if you are looking for Ark III then you maybe best getting the
Airfix model to give some guidance :-))

If it is Ark Royal IV then I havesome good info I have been
getting alot of stuff together to build it in 1:72nd scale :-))

Come on Gingyer he's already said its Ark Royal 111
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: DickyD on October 04, 2009, 07:25:03 pm
And another one.  Sorry almost the same as the last one.
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 04, 2009, 07:38:47 pm
hi guys,
thanks for the responses,The ark I'm building is from WWII,built in 1938 and sunk in 41. A ship which I love and have previously built using old MAP model boat plans  at 1/192 scale. I also have the airfix kit at 1/600 scale which I haven't built, niether of these have the detail I'm hoping to acheive this time round

regards   John
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: DickyD on October 04, 2009, 07:55:57 pm
Another one.
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: Colin Bishop on October 04, 2009, 10:15:33 pm
Some more pics here including one of the port side

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-fornv/uk/uksh-a/arkroyl2.htm

Good detail shot of the port side while the ship was sinking here: http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/showfull.php?photo=25448

Colin
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 05, 2009, 10:08:32 am
thanks everone
 
Already some useful details have come to light from the pictures that have been posted,
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: snowwolflair on October 05, 2009, 12:09:10 pm
Try the boys on the Modelwarship UK site

http://modelwarshipsuk.informe.com/forum/ (http://modelwarshipsuk.informe.com/forum/)

Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 06, 2009, 11:03:28 am
Try the boys on the Modelwarship UK site

http://modelwarshipsuk.informe.com/forum/ (http://modelwarshipsuk.informe.com/forum/)


thanks for the site,I have registered and will wait and see what happens

Cheers   John
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: Voyager on October 07, 2009, 04:18:40 pm
thanks everone
 
Already some useful details have come to light from the pictures that have been posted,

Nice funnel detail, looks good  :-))
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 08, 2009, 09:56:19 am
cheers,      I'm really trying to raise the bar on my model making skills on this one, hence the desire to get the detail right,so any help or suggestions are appreciated and welcome
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 12, 2009, 12:29:36 pm
hi, another couple of progress photos ,

I'm still looking for some detail photos of the superstructure if anyone can help?

Cheers john
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: rsm on October 12, 2009, 02:21:23 pm
Have you tried the book "three Ark Royals 1938-99" by Neil McCart.
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 13, 2009, 11:26:25 am
Have you tried the book "three Ark Royals 1938-99" by Neil McCart.

Hi
 I have seen this book on Ebay but haven't bought it as most of these books have the most common general shots and no detail shots,I could be wrong,have you looked at this book?
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: rsm on October 13, 2009, 02:36:05 pm
I haven't seen this book specifically, but I do have three of his other books which are very good. They normally have a lot of general shots of the whole ship, but there are also a few shots of specific areas as well.
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: rsm on October 13, 2009, 02:44:33 pm
I came across this plan and wondered if it would be useful to you:
http://www.myhobbystore.com/2207/Colyer-Ark-Royal-HMS-MM1212.html
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: DickyD on October 13, 2009, 07:35:10 pm
Some more pictures, cant  find the port side yet.
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 14, 2009, 07:31:22 am
I came across this plan and wondered if it would be useful to you:
http://www.myhobbystore.com/2207/Colyer-Ark-Royal-HMS-MM1212.html
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I made this Ark about 10years ago using the Nexus plans at the link that you provided. The plan although it makes a good looking model is really just a "stand off" scale model, still at the time I was fairly impressed by my efforts. See looks a bit grim now though with a number of years of storage grime!

I would recommend these plans for anyone who wants a good basic plan that looks the part
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 14, 2009, 07:43:16 am
Some more pictures, cant  find the port side yet.


thanks for the photos, that port side is a real challenge,I am have a hard job finding much at all

Colin did give me a good one when see was sinking earlier
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: rsm on October 14, 2009, 01:03:27 pm
I've emailed some images to you that might help. They are too big to post here.  :-))
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 14, 2009, 07:09:50 pm
Thanks Roger,the photos are great
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 16, 2009, 09:31:51 am
progress photos,this weeks work
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 16, 2009, 08:16:07 pm
these planes are at 1/144 scale! from F-TOYS,check them out
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: gingyer on October 16, 2009, 10:57:34 pm
do you have a link or something for those planes
they are very nice and could come in handy to know one day :-))
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 17, 2009, 04:10:51 am
do you have a link or something for those planes
they are very nice and could come in handy to know one day :-))


try
www.alwaysmodel.com

they come prepainted and mostly assembled,just clip together
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 17, 2009, 06:01:35 am

try
www.alwaysmodel.com

they come prepainted and mostly assembled,just clip together
OOPS I just checked this site and he doesnt seem to have any in stock, but go to ebay type "ara5525" in seller info. I bought a pile off this trader and he was very good to deal with!
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: Colin Bishop on October 18, 2009, 05:42:27 pm
For what it's worth I found this 1:1200 scale drawing in the December 1979 issue of Model Boats.

Colin
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 19, 2009, 06:12:44 am
For what it's worth I found this 1:1200 scale drawing in the December 1979 issue of Model Boats.

Colin

Cheers Colin
I think I have this mag, will hunt it out
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: Turbulent on October 19, 2009, 02:59:19 pm
Saw this & might be of interest.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H-M-S-ARK-ROYAL-model-ship-plans_W0QQitemZ370276437513QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN?hash=item5636320e09
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: Glyn on October 19, 2009, 04:59:46 pm
I have that Model Boats article on the Ark Royal saved as a PDF on my computer, having recently scanned it from my collection for a friend. If you're interested, let me know and I'll email it to you. Regards, Glyn  :-)
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 22, 2009, 09:28:27 am
I have that Model Boats article on the Ark Royal saved as a PDF on my computer, having recently scanned it from my collection for a friend. If you're interested, let me know and I'll email it to you. Regards, Glyn  :-)

Thanks for the offer,but I do have the article somewhere,its just a matter of hunting down,Cheers John 
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on October 26, 2009, 07:02:26 am
hi guys
here are some photos of this weeks work,

does anyone know what colour the exposed decks on the superstructure would be?
is it darker/lighter than the superstructure or the same colour?
cheers john
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on November 12, 2009, 08:40:54 am
Have you tried the book "three Ark Royals 1938-99" by Neil McCart.

I have just received this book which I purchased off ebay.has excellent photos of Ark Royal, several I havent seen before,plus plenty of info and details of III  and later arks. Recommended book
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: tintin on November 18, 2009, 10:27:33 am
I have purchased this movie of ebay,filmed in 1941 on the Ark Royal and although the movie is dated has some excellent shots showing lots of detail, purchased from ebay site; british-screen-online
 
Title: Re: Ark royal III details
Post by: steve pickstock on November 25, 2009, 10:56:04 am
"Ships with wings"


That would be "H.M.S. Red Bull" and her sisters then would it then? %%