Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: Voyager on November 21, 2009, 04:27:46 pm
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I read an old issue of Model Boats where a kit was reviewed of a small 300mm long Tug boat. After a failed attempt at trying to replicate something similar of my own I managed to buy the kit from Warrickshire :} I wanted to do this model for two reason. The first being to give me something to do as a break from working on my Smit tug. The second, and this one being the most important one was to give my other half something to use when i take her to the boating lake, it stops me getting nagged and i hope in return it will give her some enjoyment!
Pictured below is what i have so far. I have some bollards, tyres, and other bit's eother on their way or still to get phase. I managed to salvage some photo etch parts from a Schnellboot i was building a little while ago, some nice etched step plates would look good in the right place.
The first obstacle is motor choice? I was thinking something small like a 280 maybe? single coupling, oiler tube and a prop from Prop-Shop.
This isn't going to be a quick build, far too busy at present with work so not much time for either boat for a while but i wanted to pick your brains in the meantime!
Voyager
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I reckon a 280 direct drive would be too fast. I'd go either for a 360 on 7.2v (AA size NiMH cells) or maybe the geared Graupner Multispeed 140 Part #1147.
FLJ
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It's a tough one! The Graupner 140 looks ideal but i was told it would be too big as the rear deck sit quite low! It was reviewed in Model Boats and he used a 380, because of the size of the motor and limited space it was mounted right at the front, about as far up the front you could get. Any other suggestions?
Voyager
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Glued the two halves together, added stabilizers, cut out removable deck area, added mooring bollards. I reomoved the outer lip on the two halves though I now wish I hadn't as most of the strength came from that <:( I wanted to fit a soft rubber all round fender and so I had no option but to remove it. I've got alot of fiddling about to do as I've added a strip around the sides to bring back some strength and also serves as a base to glue the rubber fender on.
Going on my hol's now so more to do when I get back in two weeks time :-)
Voyager
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Good on you for building your other half a boat,when i first started,she was bored.
Now she has her own boat,loves it,especially when comes to my or someone elses rescue
Mark
Have a nice holiday
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Couldn't agree more, my wife has a tug and a lifeboat, albeit small ones and she loves them.
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I thought by having a little boat named after her and calling it her own (A late Christmas present) it'll bring her into the hobby and give her something to look after :-) And ya never know...it may be her that starts to nag me about when we're next going to the lake instead of the more familiar other way round lol.
Moving on...
Here's an update on the biuld so far. The outer lip that joins the deck was a job to sort out as the strength of the hull was lost once I removed it. However, after much messing about it started coming together, the strength of the hull started to come back as I glued strips of plasti-card on the outside and this would be used to stick the soft rubber fendering on. The next step was to use plastic filler to blend the all round strip into the hull and sand it all down smooth. Right, and now the most scary bit...cutting out a large portion of the front and lower hull to turn it into a pusher tug. I was very careful here as this was a one shot deal and so getting it wrong was not an option! After numerous pondering sessions and refreshments I fitted the new front section in place and it fitted nicely to my relief :o Further bits have been added, side hull strips of curved plasti-card, rear name lettering from 'Slaters'. tow bollard, cabin and hood.
More to follow after Christmas.
Voyager
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Lookin good mate :-)) i think she will love it O0 Have a great holiday
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I'm sure she will and thanks there ship mate :-)) You have a nice Christmas & New Year!
Voyager
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Project now back on...
Voyager
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Was thinking about putting in the motor they recommend for the Odin, or is that still too small {-) {-) {-)
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Worked hard all day yesterday and this is how the project looks so far.
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The inner deck and superstructure is all taking shape, still lots of alterations and bit's to make. I applied bolts to the tow bollard base, as well as around the cab. I strengthened some area's as the vacume formed plastic was very thin in places. Exhaust stack built and painted but needs to be slightly rusty around the top!
More to do tomorrow if I get time....
Voyager
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Mast built and fitted along with radar dome. Test fitting exhaust and deck bit's.
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how did you get the rust effect??
It looks amazing :-))
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Looking good Voyager!!
... I didn't realize there was a working dockyard here in Peterborough!?!?! %)
(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20909.0;attach=83391;image)
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how did you get the rust effect??
It looks amazing :-))
Hi, it was done using Winton Oil paints and Tamiya Red Brown for the dark spots.
And thanks, glad you like the effect!
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Looking good Voyager!!
... I didn't realize there was a working dockyard here in Peterborough!?!?! %)
(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=20909.0;attach=83391;image)
Erm...??? Yeah, you've got me there on that one Martin lol. I may have gotten away with it if it weren't for your keen eye ;D It was a choice of either Peterborough or Stilton (my village) but settled on Peterbough.
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According to the MCA Wisbech is the nearest Port of Registry
to Stilton or Peterborough :-)) :-))
Ned
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But that's ruddy miles away from where I live, but well done for clearing this one up :D
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Voyager, I have always thought that you surface rust effects are superb and look incredibly realistic and, although I know they are created with oils, could you please do us a step by step guide to how you create the effect? I am certain that there would be a lot of members here very interested in experimenting with such procedures.
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do you apply any kind of varnish sealer over the top of your weathering voyager ?
and i agree with bunk, a voyager weathering masterclass is in order !!!
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Voyager, I have always thought that you surface rust effects are superb and look incredibly realistic and, although I know they are created with oils, could you please do us a step by step guide to how you create the effect? I am certain that there would be a lot of members here very interested in experimenting with such procedures.
I'd be happy to do that for those who would like to know :-)) I'll work on taking some pictures as a step by step guide from start to finish on how I acheive my rust effect.
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do you apply any kind of varnish sealer over the top of your weathering voyager ?
and i agree with bunk, a voyager weathering masterclass is in order !!!
I do indeed use a varnish as a sealer, nearly always it's satin, but sometimes when I require a more neglected look I use a matt varnish.
Look out for a weathering masterclass very soon!
Anyway...
As she stands tonight she looks like this.
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She's really getting some character now, and I'm pleased with the degree of weathering :} :} :}
Anyway...before I continue, I'd like to thank those who have given me praise, I'm much obliged to you all and it keeps me going when things don't always go right sometimes :-))
Right then...
Wheelhouse roof has been given some very watered down spray 90/10% to add some shadows, plus a few fresh paint chips done with some metalized Humbrol. Windows now glazed, exhaust re-painted (wasn't happy with my choice of colour!), applied a washed down rust to the outside hull. I settled on Tamiya green for the decking colour (thought about brown but, with all the rusty brown it would look too much). Ships horn fitted, along with mast lights (non working dummies), added a metal container to make the deck look busy. Fitted one crewman to the rear (another will go in the wheelhouse but he's too short and requires modifying). Nav lights have been painted in transparent Tamiya colours and are drying as we speak, will work on those again tomorrow. Scale rope fitted to mooring bollard. I decided I wanted a wooden walled interior so I've started laying strips of wood down which I will stain. Tomorrow I will make up some black back boards for the nav lights and fit those.
Last pic is of the "Lady Sharon's" soon ta be new owner larking about at Black Park.
Any questions, then just ask away!
Voyager
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Well, she's almost finished!!!
Nav lights made, painted and fitted. Front screen wiper made, painted and fitted. Some light rust streaks added in places. All that's needed to finish her is to make a wooden wheelhouse door, line the wheelhouse walls in wood. Also, I need to find a suitable steering wheel (Off to Wings & Wheels on Saturday so hope to find something there). And lastly, the crewman for the wheelhouse needs to be made a little longer and that's it, just the electronics to go!
Voyager
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Excellent work,the lady behind the tree,is a very lucky lady
Mark
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Cheers Mark ok2 Indeed she is, she's spoilt like you wouldn't believe...and now she can say she has had a boat named after her lol.
Wayne.
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Inside wood panels all fitted and stained. I built a rear door but I've decided against fitting it as it hides all the internal details.
Voyager
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amazing work there, love the weathering, the close up shots on the weathering really show it off well.
Thanks
Adie
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Cheers Aide ok2
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Nice to meet you today Voyager and Sharon! :-))
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Nice to meet you today Voyager and Sharon! :-))
Really good to say hi to you Martin (you're a top bloke!) It was Sharon's first ever show and she thoroughly enjoyed herself and she can't wait for the Warrick show later in the year.
Wayne & Sharon
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Don't forget, lunch at Warwick, by the 'old school dinner ladies'..... yum, yum! :-)
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Don't forget, lunch at Warwick, by the 'old school dinner ladies'..... yum, yum! :-)
Dont worry Martin, we're aren't going to forget something like that!!!
Eating food is my second hobby lol.
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Really good to say hi to you Martin (you're a top bloke!)
Blimey Wayne, how many Brownie points for that one ? {:-{ {-)
Borrow my avatar (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/master-1.gif)
Love the boat by the way. :-))
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Cheers ship mate ok2
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Brilliant thread. Why ? {:-{
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Basically...
I was offended by nasty (P***) taking replies that were left in the "Sales" section on an item I was trying to sell a few weeks ago! (I won't ever say names!).
..... moderated - Admin
...PS. I'm sure this reply with be "Deleted" faster than I can say the "Lady Sharon"
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Not deleted but 'all things in moderation'....
The 'sniping' issues you noted are being addressed and I can be discussed off forum.
I'll PM you today.
Topic locked.
Martin
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Some of you might have seen this on fleebay, possibly?
I had her finished and only tested her once in a small pool and she seemed ok at the time! Well, when I went to sell her I noticed alot (I mean alot!) of vibrations coming from the prop-shaft. I didnt want to sell her like that, I know I wouldn't have been happy buying someone elses problems. She has given me a good few headaches along the way, and the worst one was realising either my set-up/build was in question? I had no choice to remove the glued in prop-shaft, this caused a massive problem as the hull is only vac-formed and not as strong as resin fibreglass hulls. Lots of tea breaks and swearing later, as well as lots of unwanted extra expense, new couplings, new prop-shaft, motor and three different configurations in batteries and she's now finished.
I very quickly built a barge to go with her, all out of plasti-card and extremely lite with removable load.
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and the barge.
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And on a pre-lake bath test.
The internals needed to be changed which nade her alot heavier than I would have liked. The shape of the hull gave me the biggest problem as the hull needed to sit low in the water to give stability, otherwise she was far too unstable and any light wind would catch her off guard and down she'd go!
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I'm glad we are seeing more of this model. It really is a little cracker and one that simply brings a smile to your face. Thanks for adding some more to this thread Voyager.
Again the rust effects are amazing and look so realistic you really wouldn't think you were looking at a model. If I could get half as good I'd be happy.
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Hay...that's really nice of you to say Bunkerbarge, I'm glad you like my quirky little boat! It's not been easy, plenty of obstacles to overcome along the way which i've enjoyed solving. And if I can be of any assistance with any weathering, then just ask as I'm always happy to help!
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Now you come to mention it, do you remember when you did that superb rust tutorial on a peice of white plasticard? Unfortunately since then I've only had a four week stint at home and I never even got near my modelling bench but I'm home for December and january and I'm doing some modellingthen!
Anyway you finished off by saying that you would do one for a dark surface one day so if you ever fancy having a stab at that. :D
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Indeed I did say that didn't I....yep, ok!
I'd be happy to do a tutorial on rusting on a dark surface, I'd enjoy doing that :} Leave it with me, I'm away from tomorrow but when I'm back next week I'll start one going.
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Nice to see you back on form Wayne,
Your rusting and weathering effects,give us modellers,something to aspire to.
You cant sell sell your good lady's boat,what will she sail next ?
Mark
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Cheers mate, it's good ta be back on here....I've missed you all O0
Probably easy for me to say but it's really not that hard to weather, so long as you find the right product for the job the rest is just practice!
And as for my good lady's boat, well, she loves it...so getting her to part with it was never going to be easy lol. I've been trying to get her into using my Graupner Micro Magic but she finds it too hard, I dunno...
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I have got to agree with Bunkerbarge
"It really is a little cracker and one that simply brings a smile to your face."
Got your tutorial on rust on white saved, looking forward to your wise words on rust on dark.
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Cheers ship mate! She's definitely a happy looking little boat that's for sure, despite all the knocks and scrapes :-)
I'm off to Warrick so I'll see if I can pick another vac-formed hull up? Maybe this time I'll build a multi purpoise two blade version with a crane at the back.....mmm???
And here's a couple pic's of the internals.
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I bought this on a whim at Warwick last year, is it the same model?
If so, it's your, FOC... as long as you do a similar job as you did with Lady Sharon! :-))
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It's the very same Martin!
And what if I said I'd do an even better job? What if I were to fit twin props, a rear deck crane, and all in Smit colours? Would that do?
And yes!!!!...I'd love to have it FOC :-)
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Just a thought? Your a Peterborough boy, why don't you pop over if your near Stilton and I'll show you some of my current projects? And I'll even make you a nice cuppa tea!
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Ho Voyager,
Sorry, I've been a little 'distracted' this week!
I was down your way today and it wasn't until I was parked up near the Bell I remembered you live in Stilton.
Boat here and ready for you, PM me your address.
Martin :-)
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" Lady Sharron II " ?
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" Lady Sharron II " ?
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Quite possibly!!! Nice choice of colours, and by the looks of things she's had a much easier working life lol.
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Hi Martin
Wanted to thank you ever so much for dropping the boat off at the weekend, I'm well chuffed!
I couldnt believe I missed you, but at least you found us alright :-)
Please feel free to drop by any time you pass through. The workshop is 90% finished, so I'd be all too keen to show it off to you!
Kind regards
Wayne
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......... have a look on ebay.... ok2