Model Boat Mayhem

Mess Deck: General Section => Model Boating => Topic started by: TugFan on December 09, 2009, 07:07:07 pm

Title: German Engineering
Post by: TugFan on December 09, 2009, 07:07:07 pm: I've never seen any model from Germany that was not over engineered to the point that I could not tell what did what. Amazing what this guy did though. I've seen some submarines from guys in Germany that would blow your mind. What are the componets and their fuction?. I know they have to be speed controls and the like but they must be homemade. Here are three pictures in a Vliestroom from Herr A. Schu, Germany.
(http://www.modelslipway.com/photo_gallery/vlies-ASchu/images/Vliestroom6.jpg)
(http://www.modelslipway.com/photo_gallery/vlies-ASchu/images/Vliestroom7.jpg)
(http://www.modelslipway.com/photo_gallery/vlies-ASchu/images/Vliestroom8.jpg)
Title: Re: German Engineering
Post by: FullLeatherJacket on December 09, 2009, 10:58:40 pm: The Japanese have some rather talented chaps, too................. read this, check the photos............and weep.

http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/park.htm

FLJ
Title: Re: German Engineering
Post by: TugFan on December 10, 2009, 01:33:42 am: Quote from: FullLeatherJacket on December 09, 2009, 10:58:40 pm
The Japanese have some rather talented chaps, too................. read this, check the photos............and weep.

http://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/park.htm

FLJ

Breathtaking to say the least. I guess I'll have to wait on a German to explain what the layout on the photos ar on the boat. O0
Title: Re: German Engineering
Post by: john j on December 10, 2009, 02:42:07 am: What about these - Takes it to a whole new level

http://www.enginehistory.org/merlin_xx.htm

http://hsfeatures.com/features04/spitfiremkidg_1.htm
Title: Re: German Engineering
Post by: TugFan on December 10, 2009, 06:42:42 pm: Can we get back to what's in the boat? <*<
Title: Re: German Engineering
Post by: FullLeatherJacket on December 11, 2009, 08:02:04 pm: Quote from: TugFan on December 10, 2009, 06:42:42 pm
Can we get back to what's in the boat? <*<
Yes..........well, maybe.
I count at least ten microprocessors in there, along with more Finder and Schrack relays than I have in my production stock! There are certainly two speed controllers in the last picture and probably a voltage regulator circuit in the top one. The rest is a mystery. I ask myself how it can be so complex to make a Vliestroom function. Maybe the guy's got a total handle on that crane, but Terry Edwards has already done that with a lot less fuss.
German engineering, huh? Same Taiwanese bits we all use.
"Chacun" etc etc.
FLJ

Mine's a Toyota. Boring, but it does what it says on the tin.
Title: Re: German Engineering
Post by: sheerline on December 11, 2009, 09:47:42 pm: I can't figure out what all that stuff could possibly be needed in a sub for. I certainly don't think it's needed to make it submerge, surface or go round in circles so perhaps it has another function related to some additional onboard equipment. Regardless, it all appears a bit over the top. If it were mine, I would have my heart in my mouth everytime I powered it up and would be sniffing at the air for that telltale smell of burning!

As for motors, my old 94 Passat estate was fantastic, I couldnt complain and it went like a rocket. Met its demise when I accidentally drove it through my closed gates. I was going to replace it with the later version until a garage mate of mine steered me well away with "They ain't the motor they used to be old chap, leave well alone". He was right, some owners have since complained of reliability and maintenence problems. My local garage thanked me for NOT buying one.
We had a Toyota once.. did 150,000 miles and needed nothing, not even a hose or steering gaiter and was still roadworthy when we gave it away. Now both got Honda's, utterly reliable, well built and precision driving machines. German cars have all the hype but like most German engineering, rely heavily on technology and complication and are singularly expensive to maintain and repair. These Japanese machines are truly well engineered and if our previous experience is anything to go by, we will own these two for a few years to come.
Title: Re: German Engineering
Post by: Martin (Admin) on December 12, 2009, 09:03:29 am: Topic split: German Engineering.... cars mainly!

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=21340.msg206880#msg206880 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=21340.msg206880#msg206880)
Title: Re: German Engineering
Post by: FullLeatherJacket on December 12, 2009, 07:32:01 pm: Quote from: sheerline on December 11, 2009, 09:47:42 pm
I can't figure out what all that stuff could possibly be needed in a sub for.

Vliestroom was a buoy-handling vessel when I drew the plans....................... Maybe Ken Churchill's built one since :o
FLJ
Title: Re: German Engineering
Post by: DickyD on December 12, 2009, 07:33:59 pm: Quote from: FullLeatherJacket on December 12, 2009, 07:32:01 pm
Vliestroom was a buoy-handling vessel when I drew the plans....................... Maybe Ken Churchill's built one since :o
FLJ
Very good Dave, it took a while but I worked it out.
Title: Re: German Engineering
Post by: sheerline on December 12, 2009, 08:35:00 pm: OOPS! :embarrassed: Looks like I mis-read your post there FLJ.... it's my age old chap... well thats my standard excuse.
Title: Re: German Engineering
Post by: DieselDo on December 12, 2009, 09:19:01 pm: erm, Ken was offering 1 for sale so I assume he HAS built 1.
Title: Re: German Engineering
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 12, 2009, 09:25:55 pm: erm yes. Now sold full of English electronics to a surface running member , and long may it stay there. :embarrassed:

ken