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Title: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 05, 2010, 07:34:15 pm: Today I thought I would put my Xmas pressie (the Band Saw) to good use. I have started on building boat number seven,

the Severn lifeboat.

I had previously bought the plans from the R.N.L.I, and had them enlarged to the scale of 1:12. The Plywood had been bought and the workshop gas bottle had been filled so no holding me back now.

The first job was to convert the frame measurements to the sheet plywood, as I plan to make everything myself.

This was done by tacking carbon paper to the underside of the plans onto a sheet of paper. I then found a Biro pen which had run out of ink and traced through the lines from the drawing, so that they converted to the plain paper. I then cut the paper around the edges and laid the shapes onto the plywood and drew around them.

The shapes were cut out from the plywood on my new band saw just like cheese. My God, this thing is sharp.

The pictures show the progress so far. I have cut close to the lines and tomorrow will be sanding right up to the mark. I have also cut the planking strips from large sections of wood and have made about two hundred strips, as it was so easy on this machine. They are 2mm thick by 5mm wide, so should be just the job. Wait for the cries of help.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: John W E on January 05, 2010, 07:47:09 pm: hi there Ken

I am going to watch your build with great interest. I do have a some of questions first of all....

how thick is the plywood you are using?

Is your model going to be motorised?

What length is the final model going to be?

As far as lifeboat's go Ken, these are a mystery to me...I do know they rescue people

aye
john e
bluebird
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 05, 2010, 08:12:53 pm: Hi John

How are you. Happy new year and all that. Thanks for your interest, I had to go out in the cold shed to do some measurements for you.

She measures 1500mm long by 50mm wide, so is quite a monster. I could have back trouble with all the giant models I seem to favour, eh ? %)

I'm using 4mm plywood for this build throughout as I have sheets of the stuff. I had thought of a thicker keel, but will try the 4mm for now to get the shape. When all the planking is on, I expect it to become quite rigid. I can't see yet if extra frames might be needed.

It is proposed to throw everything into her as the ultimate model (we all say that at the start, don't we!!)

There will be twin motors running via all the ACTion gear I can afford. I've even commandeered the granddaughter's Barbie dolls and having them surgically transformed into beefy men. ok2

I was quite taken with the lifeboats I saw at the Mayhem bash, but at a price of £2000 to complete them, I would never have got away with it. I shall be costing this one as I go along, just to keep tabs on it. (watch this space, as they say!)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: riggers24 on January 05, 2010, 08:24:57 pm: Don't know if you have seen Johno's webpages http://www.lifeboatmodels.co.uk/ and this one http://www.philsrcmodels.co.uk/ Have a look at the severn build on phil's page as he used twin 850's per shaft.

Riggers
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 05, 2010, 08:43:41 pm: Thanks for that Riggers. I need all the help I can get.

I've started my usual Photo collection as I find all angles are needed when building 'scatch'.

cheers

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: riggers24 on January 05, 2010, 08:46:14 pm: Have you thought to contact the forum's lifeboat nutter Gribeauval
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 05, 2010, 08:51:54 pm: We did meet once, hence the interest.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on January 05, 2010, 08:59:17 pm: Think you've got your measurements wrong Ken 1500mm[60"] by 50mm[2"]. Think it might fall over old chap. ok2
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 05, 2010, 09:10:17 pm: Hiya Dicky.

Well, I did say I went out into the cold workshop. Must have frozen my brain

:} :} :} :} :} :} :} :}

Make that 500mm Mr Spock

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 14, 2010, 11:40:13 am: I've been a little quiet on here lately as this part of the build is, as DickyD says, the unseen groundwork.

My word, has there been some groundwork. The plans bear NO hints or drawings as to the actual structure underneath this wonderful craft. The frame views shown earlier are of the actual ship, not an exact "how too" for us modellers. I have settled on 11 frames at the moment.

I have made twice as many frames as I needed because of the errors in the measurements and the lining up of all the curves in the Hull. I now have a scrap box full of wood offcuts. ( one sheet of 8 X 4 gone already. :o )

Here is the final set of frames, laid on the keel to give you a flavour of her shape.

The keel has been upgraded to 8.2mm thick plywood with 24mm thick Bows and Stern, for those little crashes into the bank. %) and the frames have been hollowed out. The stern is a curved affair which needed two pieces glued together over wood fillers for strength and to hold it together.

I have tapered the thick Bow to allow for the planking angle around the hull. This involved a lot of 'power sanding' with the face mask and ventilator, and a workshop vacuum down afterwards before the Mrs came back. (because of the snow and cold, the doors were shut.... very dangerous to the health <*< )

I have secured a temporary block to the stern to hold the shape vertical, whilst further work and measuring is to be done. I then propose to turn the whole boat upside down and lay it on a straight board to get the deck flat. This will enable me to fit side supports to the frames, before planking the hull.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: John W E on January 14, 2010, 11:47:21 am: I like the look of the build Ken, keep up the good work :-)) :-))

aye

john e
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 14, 2010, 12:11:27 pm: Thanks John. I filled the rear curved section last night with wood offcuts and epoxy resin and now I can knock nails in with it . :embarrassed:

It's too bl***y heavy, so now I'll just remake another one, only hollowed out. That's why I'm sat here instead of working. It's all 'ups & downs'. I've taken 50 hours so far to get to this stage.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on January 14, 2010, 01:18:36 pm: Thats a fine looking job you've done there Ken.

Hope you have your wife down the gym everyday getting ready for when she has to carry it about. ok2
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: John W E on January 14, 2010, 02:15:43 pm: Hi Ken this is one way to build the back end and its just a thought :-))

aye
john
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 14, 2010, 08:39:56 pm: Quote from: DickyD on January 14, 2010, 01:18:36 pm
Thats a fine looking job you've done there Ken.

Hope you have your wife down the gym everyday getting ready for when she has to carry it about. ok2

Hi Dicky.

Thank you. I'm having a real go on this monster. Wife already in training. :D

Hi John

Great minds think alike. Today I 'ribbed' a new stern section cut out, just as you've shown. I've left off the outer skin at the moment and glued and screwed it to the stern. I then inverted the whole frame on the bench and can join up the ribs with ease, knowing that the deck will be level from Bow to Stern.

I almost regret coming in to sleep, as I want to get on with the build. Exciting or what. 8)

Would you, or anyone know if the foredeck is curved slightly to drain off any water please. I would also need to know if this curve follows the side of the boat down the slope leading to the steps to access the rear deck.

Thanks for your interest.

Ken

ps
Typing so fast these days my spelling goes almost unnoticed. ok2
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on January 14, 2010, 09:50:57 pm: Hi Ken

Just had a look at my 1/12th Severn and the foredeck does slope slightly, and the same goes for the side decking.
Nothing dramatic in either case but a slope nonetheless.
You're a brave man taking this project on and I wish you all the best, what I've seen so far does you credit.
Mine took eighteen months to build and that was from a "kit"!

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 15, 2010, 11:12:25 am: Hi Brian.

Great information. Thank you for that. I shall blend a curve to the decks now.

Here are the latest pictures which show the modified rear panel. It will be covered when the planking proceeds. I have laid the hull upside down to ensure the decks are level and today will purchase a piece of wood, big enough to accommodate it. I seem to have run out. %)

I also enclose a picture of the output of my bandsaw. Cannot speak too highly of this wonderful piece of equipment. :-))

The last picture shows the drawings that I have to work with. Although a wonderful thing in it's own right, I feel it lacks the intimate details that we require as builders, but with your help, we shall get there in the end.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on January 15, 2010, 02:34:51 pm: Hi Ken

I've got a couple of CD's of the Holyhead Severn showing quite a lot of detail, so if you'd like copies just say the word!

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 15, 2010, 02:45:24 pm: Hi Brian

Yes please. PM sent.

What a guy :-))

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 16, 2010, 05:02:57 pm: Today we actually started putting her together. O0

The frames have been glued to the Keel and I started on the side webbing, to hold them all in place.

At last we can see the shape of her coming to life.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 16, 2010, 05:12:08 pm: I now need to know the diameter of the propellers please, as I have to get the curve of the recessed section correct.

Can anyone help please.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: johno 52-11 on January 16, 2010, 07:10:24 pm: Hi Ken

The props my mate Bob has on his are 75mm 4 blade .There's lots of info about it on our website that might be of interest to you. http://www.lifeboatmodels.co.uk/severn.htm

Regards

John
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 17, 2010, 11:31:15 am: Excellent Johno. Thank you for the information. :-))

I do like the site and pictures. Unfortunately, I can't run the Videos because of my Zone alarm security. Not to worry as I shall look into it.

The prop size is very helpful and I will build around it. Can't wait to build the bow thruster. I've never seen a good one yet !! so more thinking, meethinks.

I don't know yet whether to go the fibreglass route or not. Will see how the wood looks and leaks. %)

Day off today as SWMBO want to shopping. Time for the glue to wear off my finger tips. ;)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on January 17, 2010, 11:53:12 am: I could not watch the videos either Ken as it said I needed to download plugins and then told me there were none suitable. >>:-(
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 19, 2010, 07:16:44 pm: The rear panel was fitted and glued into place, and then it was on to the hull planking.

What a job this is turning out to be. There isn't a straight line on the boat. It's all curves.

I'm managing about 3 rows of planks a day because I'm using 24hour wood glue and each plank has to secured down at every bulkhead.

This is as far as I'm up to at present, so I'll be quiet from now on until it's finished.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 24, 2010, 01:07:19 pm: 16 days of woodworking and we are up to this stage.

The first Blood has been spilt. (see if you can spot it ?!) but it is getting to a recognisable stage now, and I'm cheering up.

The following pictures are of the first stage and it is planned to sand the hull smooth and cover it again with fine strips then sand it down again.

It must be said at this stage that the RNLI drawings are ONLY a guide. I'm relying heavily on your pictures for finer detail with this hull. I've never seen so many angles on one boat. {:-{

Half my time has been spent throwing bits of wood away. So far I've used one 8 X 4 sheet of plywood and 8 planks of 4" x 3/4" x 4 foot timber. All cut into millimetres on my beautiful bandsaw. Everything in the workshop has been covered in saw dust, so today we vacuumed through and now we're ready for the week ahead.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: flundle on January 26, 2010, 08:52:11 pm: I well recall the sanding too! Looks great.
If you email me your address I will send you a CD with hundred's of ref photos of the Newhaven Severn and a set of plans I drew (1/16th though). Every little helps as they say.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 26, 2010, 10:49:32 pm: Just looking at all that planking is bring back my nervous tw, tw, twitch!
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: derekwarner on January 27, 2010, 01:45:44 am: Ken says........"The first Blood has been spilt. (see if you can spot it ?!)" ........ {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

Pretty clear from down here in OZ Ken........ %) Derek.....& it's not on the vessel ...nor the fence....nor on the grass..... nor the plastic container....so the only place left is the white cotton towel

I hope you hide this from your good wife.................................:D
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 27, 2010, 10:37:29 am: Quote
Every little helps as they say.

That would be great, flundle. I am in desperate need as you can see. :embarrassed:

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 27, 2010, 10:40:33 am: Quote from: Martin - Administrator on January 26, 2010, 10:49:32 pm
Just looking at all that planking is bring back my nervous tw, tw, twitch!

Hi Martin

Been there. Done that have you, eh ! I promise Not to do this again.

Ken

ps Will try and bring her to the Mayhem bash and deliberately sink her. :} :}
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 27, 2010, 10:46:16 am: Quote from: derekwarner_decoy on January 27, 2010, 01:45:44 am
Ken says........"The first Blood has been spilt. (see if you can spot it ?!)" ........ {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

only place left is the white cotton towel

Hi Derek

Got it in one. It's also on the wood side which was cleverly turned away from the camera.
My fault for cutting the protruding lump of wood with a Stanley knife. Must get a small 'Davids plane'. Funny how you're right about the Wife. Not much sympathy there. :embarrassed:

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 05, 2010, 07:56:24 pm: Well there's another week gone by in the wood yard.

I've started constructing the deck level and compartments sections. The nose cone section had started peeling away from the bow keel, so had to be cut off. I could see no secure way of attaching the planking so I replaced this front section with plywood and today covered it back with planking. A bit of sanding due here, to get back the curve of the bow. See first picture to get an idea of the amount of wood I'm shifting.

The new motors have arrived from Marks Model bits (900's for surfing!) along with two 5mm prop shafts and 75mm Brass propellers from Cornwall boats. Now I have the sizes for fitting to the boat so will be able to position them accurately.

Will have to think about the rudders soon as I want the internal structures fixed before sealing down the deck.

Here are the latest pictures.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: derekwarner on February 06, 2010, 12:48:56 am: mmmmm what are you hiding behind all of those the sheets of second class or reject ply Ken?

More bloody power points {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) %% %% %% %% %% %% %% %%

Like how many power points does a work station [wood yard] need?

Please keep the photographs coming along as we do enjoy the build :-)) ......regards Derek
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 06, 2010, 10:59:07 am: Hi Derek

Very observant. I like that in a modeller. Yes, the secondhand wood was snatched from the skip in the wood yard, for free. Couldn't resist it. Might find a use for it eh!!!

At the moment it hides the sockets cause they remind me of my previous trade. :} :}

At last, I'm beginning to enjoy the build. I shouldn't have any trouble with her buoyancy. Thinking of making two........ one for each foot, and I can go water skiing %)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 10, 2010, 11:10:42 am: I have cut off the 5 ply keel as it was warping a bit and have cut a new one from solid wood.

This will be screwed and glued to the hul, but before I do, I was wanting to shape it. At the moment it has square edges and I thought I might curve them a bit. (easier to do away from the boat)

What is the profile needed here, please. Can I curve the edges ? If so, then by how much ?

All advice gratefully received. :-)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on February 10, 2010, 12:51:45 pm: Hi Ken

Just done a quick check on my 1/12th Severn and the keel isn't tapered at all, just the edges rounded off. The hull is a GRP moulding so all I did was to give it a light sanding to smooth it off.

When you think about it, if you taper a wooden keel the danger is that ,if the boat, being heavy is grounded the keel may split. so the thicker the wood the better. Hope this makes sense!

Your Severn is looking good keep up the good work.

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 10, 2010, 08:15:22 pm: Beautiful. Just the view I was hoping for. Thank you for that.

Today I fitted the new keel with wood glue and heavy bolts. I have rounded the long edge but kept the width. It is now 3/4 inch timber which replaces the plywood so should be an Ice breaker. :}

I've been looking around for 20mm wide 'D' shape rubber to girth the boat. I need around 5 metres of the stuff. Any ideas of a supplier please gents.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on February 10, 2010, 09:07:21 pm: Hi Ken

As far as I know the only place you can get "D" shaped rubber fendering for your Severn is from Speedline Models and it costs £40 for enough to go around your boat.

My 1/12th Severn is a Speedline and the fendering is only 15mm wide.

Model Slipway do a "D" shaped plastic one but it's only 10mm wide.

Hope this helps

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 10, 2010, 10:24:41 pm: Thanks for the info, Brian.

The drawings come out at 20mm ? What do I do now ?

Tomorrow I'll cut an imitation fender to size it up and see what it looks like at both sizes.

£40 eh !!!

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: gribeauval on February 10, 2010, 10:34:20 pm: When you have decided what size is the correct one then try these people. They should be able to solve the fender problem for you. 8)

http://www.sealsdirect.co.uk/bbCMS/bbCMSrenderPage.asp (http://www.sealsdirect.co.uk/bbCMS/bbCMSrenderPage.asp)

Good hunting, Mike
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on February 10, 2010, 11:42:31 pm: Hi Ken

15mm certainly looks right, good luck with your search and I'm sorry I can't help any more.

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 11, 2010, 11:08:28 am: Quote from: gribeauval on February 10, 2010, 10:34:20 pm
When you have decided what size is the correct one then try these people. They should be able to solve the fender problem for you. 8)

http://www.sealsdirect.co.uk/bbCMS/bbCMSrenderPage.asp (http://www.sealsdirect.co.uk/bbCMS/bbCMSrenderPage.asp)

Good hunting, Mike

Hi Mike

That's the 'Birdie' 'bees knees' 'Just the job'

The true spirit of Mayhem. Thank you very much.

Now, if I knew the difference between neoprene, expanded neoprene and rubber.... ok2

I shall be studying this very carefully.

Thank you once again

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 11, 2010, 11:15:12 am: Quote from: Brian Roberts on February 10, 2010, 11:42:31 pm
Hi Ken

15mm certainly looks right, good luck with your search and I'm sorry I can't help any more.

Brian

Hi Brian

I've just measured it with calipers and it comes out at 18.6mm, so we're both right. :D

All I've got to do now is Pay for it. (have to take Her shopping first !)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Mat_B on February 11, 2010, 05:54:32 pm: awsome build

realy wanted to build the severn but could never work out the frames
keep up the good work :-))

Mat
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 11, 2010, 08:10:14 pm: Quote from: Mat_B on February 11, 2010, 05:54:32 pm
awsome build

realy wanted to build the Severn but could never work out the frames
keep up the good work :-))

Mat

Hi Mat

You and me, both. Their frames (3) are so bleak as to be unattainable to achieve.

In the end, I made 10 frames by measuring the scaled drawings and still got it wrong.

I've been on this now since January 5th and have created a garden skip full of sawdust (might come in handy to stiffen up some glue !!)

Luckily my trusty band saw has seen me through the winter. I've never cut so much wood in all my life. I'm still sticking on bits to fatten her up and next day sanding them back to a nice profile. I think I'm there now, so today I went out and bought the Volkswagen Orange to cheer myself up.

I shall be covering her with epoxy, so the actual wood layout will be hidden. (it won't pass any muster, I can tell you) It's also getting quite heavy and there's more wood to go on yet. The floor is laid inside and the deck has been cut ready. Mind you, the costs to make, so far are £9 for glue, so I can't complain. (all the wood was free)

I've started collecting the expensive stuff to fit inside so will keep you posted on these costs as they fit in.

I am really enjoying myself with this one. Go on, have a go. It's a challenge and a half. :-))

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Perkasaman2 on February 11, 2010, 11:24:05 pm: Hi Kenny, great stuff........... Did you cut/create the planks for the hull or were they bought?......... I'm toying with the idea of getting a bandsaw and wondered if the machine is capable of straight cuts on suitable sheet material. I used one years ago for cutting out frames for two hulls and it managed very accurate cuts easily, with practice ................. but, is it good for cutting planks? :-)

I'm a really big fan of the 1:12 lifeboats. :}
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: 6705russell on February 12, 2010, 06:42:05 am: On my current build the City of Sheffield Tyne i had a rubber extrusion made to match the right profile for the fendering.

Russ
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 12, 2010, 11:15:38 am: Quote from: Perkasaman on February 11, 2010, 11:24:05 pm
H I'm toying with the idea of getting a bandsaw and wondered if the machine is capable of straight cuts on suitable sheet material.

Hi Perkasaman

Yes indeed it's a great machine. Ensure you get the widest blade you can afford to prevent 'flexing'.

I have managed to cut 6 foot length of 6" by 1" timber to a width of 1mm planks, which proved to be too thin anyway. I settled on 2 to 3 mm in the end. I have two blades of different teeth per inch and found the 10 tooth one best for accurate work. I use the 6 tooth per inch for ripping larger wood, and so far have managed to slice a piece of 3X3 inch carefully to a width of 2mm. (just experimenting)

It does need special guides clamped in place as long material like this will 'wander' if you sneeze. :D I had rests fixed each side of the blade to support the wood and keep it true.

One thing to note is keep away from Knots in the wood. Planks cut from these tend to snap when handled afterwards. :embarrassed:

As to plywood, it's like cutting cheese. You can actually cut a 2 inch circle, it's so sharp and dusty, so goggles are a must.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 12, 2010, 11:18:06 am: Quote from: 6705russell on February 12, 2010, 06:42:05 am
On my current build the City of Sheffield Tyne i had a rubber extrusion made to match the right profile for the fendering.

Russ

Hi Russ

They look smashing. Are they hollow or solid D shapes ?

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: 6705russell on February 12, 2010, 12:03:40 pm: Hi Ken

The profile is solid but not D shaped, it as a more angled lower half than the top as per on the Tyne....

Russ
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 12, 2010, 07:36:52 pm: Ah. Thank you for that. Something I knew nothing about. More research needed ;)

Today I finished off the Bow curves and added the 'sticky-out' bit to be shaped to profile when dry.

I've also re-made the fore deck as something went wrong with the measurements. (wood swelled perhaps :embarrassed: )

Then it was on to the sides which support the sloping gangway. I've made a top surface to the hull planking, When dry I shall be able to sand a nice sweeping curve as per the drawings, then the deck will have something to glue to.

While I was sitting down having my tea break I could see light coming through the hull, so I've glued extra little pieces inside to strengthen and fill the gaps.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 14, 2010, 09:17:20 pm: 40 days have passed and we have the hull completed. We broke bread and sung and danced the night away. :}

Well here she is with the decks fitted. The total weight at the moment is 7 Kg, so it's quite easy to shift around. I've added a little picture to show how pleased I am. (that I've still got all my fingers)

On to the complicated bits next. :o
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Perkasaman2 on February 14, 2010, 11:10:18 pm: Wow! :} ...................... plus a pair of :-)) :-))..... :}
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on February 14, 2010, 11:40:25 pm: Well done Ken, looking really good!

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: derekwarner on February 15, 2010, 05:20:22 am: What are those confounded BLUE symbols on the second class ply Ken?

If I didn't know better I would have thought a British Airways take on an elblem for their new Airbus planes..........to copy our SKIPPY Qantas logo O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 - Derek

PS....the build is very interesting too........ :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 15, 2010, 10:31:41 am: Thanks everyone. I am beginning to get somewhere at last. Today it's strengthening up the hull to hold the rudders and prop tubes.

Quote from: derekwarner_decoy on February 15, 2010, 05:20:22 am
What are those confounded BLUE symbols on the second class ply Ken?

They do look pretty, don't they.

Today's competition. What do the symbols mean ?

Is it Chinese for "do not use for skiing"

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Perkasaman2 on February 15, 2010, 11:34:35 am: Tut Tut Martin from down below down under %), it was Chinese New Year here in the old country yesterday and it's obvious our Kenny was realigning the FENG SHUI of his boatyard. :}
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on February 15, 2010, 12:30:13 pm: Quote from: Perkasaman on February 15, 2010, 11:34:35 am
Tut Tut Martin from down below down under %), it was Chinese New Year here in the old country yesterday and it's obvious our Kenny was realigning the FENG SHUI of his boatyard. :}
Why are you having a go at Martin doon under, he hasn't been on here ? {:-{
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Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Perkasaman2 on February 15, 2010, 12:55:45 pm: Oops............ i d ten error :} ........... please substitute/read 'Derek' (Too many new year festivities. %))
Many thanks for the 'heed's up' DD. ok2
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Netleyned on February 15, 2010, 05:50:02 pm: Surfboard Quality Ply!!!

Ned
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 15, 2010, 07:36:26 pm: Feng Shui. I like that, it's good enough for me :}

The Skiper should be able to go surfing with Mark's top motors at 24 volts. ;)

Started fitting them today.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 18, 2010, 12:19:36 pm: I have now spent considerable time locating and fixing down the motors. As it's scratch built, I have to think of everything. Special brackets were made to line them up true.

They seem pretty secure so I've now epoxied the shafts in place and made the motor mount removable should the need arise. I have also epoxied in the base plates for the rudders and this morning I checked their firmness. Now to make the rudders.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Perkasaman2 on February 19, 2010, 01:35:36 am: Great progress :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 19, 2010, 05:19:56 pm: The rudder tubes are now secured in and setting so it's on to the cabins.

Here are the side pieces cut to the drawings and just laid in place. I am now working on the first floor roof and have the pieces cut ready.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on February 19, 2010, 05:50:58 pm: Looking really good Ken, you seem to be enjoying it. :-))

I hope your good lady moves it about the workshop when necessary. ok2

What happened to your trawler, thought I might see something on you tube if you've sorted out the ballast ? {:-{
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 19, 2010, 06:05:05 pm: Hiya Dicky,

Yes, I am getting exited about her now. (and the wife ok2). The weight seems to be manageable at the moment, but then, it's only half a boat.

I haven't done anything to the trawler as I've been somewhat occupied. %) I did notice a fine layer of dust on my models however, so must do something about them, or the spiders will start nesting in them. :o I'm awaiting my Daughter's 'old' cupboard for use of it's wood content, as I believe the older trees were the best timber for us guys!.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 22, 2010, 07:45:14 pm: I've been busy making the front bay windows. I only need five panels, but so far I've made fourteen !

These were not shown in any detail on my plans so a lot of interpolation was needed. Things like angles came into play and it was a challenge to say the least. I think I'm there at the moment, but only time will tell. :embarrassed:

The pictures will give you an idea of the angles involved. I've just nipped out to check nothing has slipped whilst glueing and it seem alright at the moment. Tomorrow we join them to the roof and make further angles out to the Bow.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 23, 2010, 07:20:45 pm: Full eight hour day today getting all the funny angles lined up and glued.

She's beginning to look like a boat at last. {-)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on February 23, 2010, 08:38:07 pm: Looking good Ken, I was wondering if you were going to fibre glass or epoxy with matting the inside of the hull.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 24, 2010, 03:32:35 pm: Had a chat with Bluebird for advice on this subject.

The plan is to Resin the inside of the hull and to Resin with tissue on the outside. We will have to wait a few weeks for the weather to warm up as it will require outside work. Fumes and all that.

I expect I can find something else to do in the meantime. :}

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 25, 2010, 08:23:28 pm: Have finally fitted the angled slopes to the bridge. Each piece cut and chamfered to fit.

Now gone up a deck and starting the top bridge. More angles to play with here.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 26, 2010, 07:24:02 pm: I've added further planking to the sloping cabin roofs. Also started was the control table inside the upper steering position.

Then while this is drying, I've moved to the stern section to finish off the rear of the cabin.

As the model was tied up with clamped glued pieces, I made the two rudders from brass sheet and bars. I've welded the pieces together with a lovely little blow lamp from Aldi. My thanks to Bosun for his tip on using these as they are for cooks to brown things in their kitchens. It's a cracking little welder and did the job in only half an hour. All for just under £14 plus materials. Cheers mate, and I didn't even need goggles or special gloves. :-))

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: barryfoote on February 26, 2010, 07:44:34 pm: Eh proper wood......not a bit of plastic in sight.....great Ken.. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 26, 2010, 07:54:51 pm: Hi Footski,

Nice to hear from you, and your kind comment. Yes, I had considered plastic for the upper works, but as I had the band saw I thought I'd give it a try. May have to sand it a bit and maybe a bit of wood filler, but we are getting there.

I'm quite exited about this one. Can't explain it, but I'm constantly wanting to get back out there. It's day 50 today and although I haven't spent every day working on her, at least I've spent every day thinking about what to do next. Mind you, many things have been done twice as I couldn't get it right first time.

That's the thing about my blogs. they are warts and all. %)

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: nathanbint on February 28, 2010, 01:13:57 pm: that looks big lol,i bet it is going to be a lovely model after it is finished
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: dan on February 28, 2010, 03:28:55 pm: i poped round to see this beast in the flesh, and it looks fantastic, the photos dont do it justice, fantastic work ken :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 28, 2010, 08:25:11 pm: Well thank you guys. Very nice of you to say so.

I spent another full shift of her today and here are the latest pictures.

1st, I forgot to put up the pictures of my welding job on the rudders. These were hand made from sheet copper and soldered to brass tubing filled with brass rod for strength. The picture also shows the little cake decorating welder from Aldi for only £13.75. (the flame is showing). It proved man enough for the job, so I'm quite pleased with the result.

I've finally finished off the rounded off front of the craft, so no more funny little shapes going around corners.

I started on the rear section by cutting more plywood box shapes and have it clamped and glued to dry overnight. I shall be fitting extra supports inside to strengthen them as they appear a little wobbly at the moment.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on February 28, 2010, 08:51:53 pm: Excellent job Ken. :-))

I use a soldering iron for my soldering, but I have been known to sneak the wife's blowtorch out of the kitchen on occasion.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 28, 2010, 09:09:41 pm: Thanks Dicky.

Handy little tool for warming up a cup of tea that you forgot the misses brought in 1/2 hour ago {-)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 01, 2010, 07:06:55 pm: The glue has dried and now the extra support beams have been fixed in, so I thought it a good idea to take her out into the sun for some more pictures. (hope you're not getting fed up!)

Finished early today as I was due a visit to the dentist. Funny how they can find the extra work. :o now I've got to go back.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on March 01, 2010, 07:09:31 pm: That looks good Ken, not fed up yet. :-))

Whats that bloke on the bridge praying for ? {:-{
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: John W E on March 01, 2010, 07:20:35 pm: Quote from: DickyD on March 01, 2010, 07:09:31 pm
That looks good Ken, not fed up yet. :-))

Whats that bloke on the bridge praying for ? {:-{

Dicky my man, you have a very short memory - the praying man - is, I am sure, the sole survivor from the RED PELICAN - which went down at Mayhem %% %% %% {-) {-) and I am sure he is praying for Kenny to be more careful when R.N.L.I. Kenny sets sail.

LOOKING GOOD THERE mind you Ken :-)) :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 01, 2010, 07:42:48 pm: {-) {-)

I couldn't stop him. He's seen the gaps in the hull.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on March 01, 2010, 07:47:23 pm: He should not be praying then, he should be legging it. ok2
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: John W E on March 01, 2010, 08:13:37 pm: he would be legging it but Captain Kenny glued him to the bridge - we vill hav no cowards aboard this vessel! You are stuck to it mate!
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Mat_B on March 03, 2010, 07:25:03 pm: definately not fed up this build is awsome :-))
especially as its all proper materials ;)

looks great so far

Mat
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 03, 2010, 08:13:02 pm: Thank you Mat, more work today, but no pictures.

I have been using a wood filler from B&Q and it has a tube of hardner, just like P38 filler.

Well. I've just checked on it to see if it's gone off and the results are stunning. The surface is rock hard and all I've got to do is sand it down level ..... Hmphh . Looks a bit of a job I've given myself here. Will let you know how I get on. May have found another product for the 'Boys'

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: getemuphigh on March 06, 2010, 05:57:46 pm: Hi Ken,
I remember you showing me the plans....and its looking great!!
Peter.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 07, 2010, 04:45:51 pm: Thank you Peter. It's coming along in leaps and bounds now.

I've built the steps to the rear deck and found I had to cut the same shape in the 'lift off cabin' to seat it down properly.

I have fitted the rudders with Marks collets and assembled them temporary to see how they line up. I've made a holder for the servo and sited it well up the boat for easy access when the decks are on.

I've finally finished the upper cabin slope and it matches up a treat.

Today I went shopping with the Missis and guess what I found in a cheap store...... Yes, it's a six inch man from the TV series 'Gladiators' who fits the bill exactly for the crew, so I've bought all their stock of two hmph!! must go back. All I need is some yellow trousers and coats and I'm well away in the staff department. Price, I hear you say. Well they are under Two english pounds each. Couldn't believe it either.

Well the next store we visited I found the miniature Nuts to go around the panels. I've been dreading this part of the build because of costs and availability of 1000 off size 1.6 mm nuts in stainless steel is not cheap.
The store was called Dunelm Mill and I found some packets of hexagon silver beads (for a better name) which could be glued on flat against the window edges etc. and look the part.

Here are the latest pictures showing the man and steps. You may also notice the smoothed hull, done with wood filler. It came out very well and sanded just like P38. Looks a bit spotty, but should cover up nicely with epoxy later.

The pictures are in two batches as I've exceed my bandwidth.

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 07, 2010, 04:47:20 pm: Here's the extra picures
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on March 07, 2010, 05:19:56 pm: Very nice Ken, but why is Alan Shearer on your boat ?
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 07, 2010, 05:26:00 pm: He's looking for his twin brother. They were having a kick around and the ball went inside. {-) {-)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 07, 2010, 05:39:58 pm: I've found them.

I think they are ganging up on me.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on March 07, 2010, 07:50:56 pm: Good God its the whole Newcastle United supporters club.

Toon army forivvor, awa the lads.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 08, 2010, 11:24:42 am: ;)

I have measured the 'Team' and found that they are not 6 inches tall. They are only 5 inches, so are slightly out of scale.

I think I'll have to think it out again. :((

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Mat_B on March 08, 2010, 11:28:49 am: thats looking awsome :-))
looks gigantic aswell
keep up the good work

Mat :}
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 08, 2010, 11:38:00 am: Thanks Mat. Most of the heavy work is done so now on to the smaller items.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 09, 2010, 04:50:45 pm: Today I painted the two Alans just to get a flavour of the colour.

I've also made the various covers that go around the cabin and have retired early to let the glue set.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on March 09, 2010, 06:03:03 pm: All together now--------In the navy--------------- ;D
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: dan on March 09, 2010, 06:27:22 pm: not lookin to bad at all ken :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Netleyned on March 10, 2010, 05:24:48 pm: The future's bright The futures ..............!

Great work Boyo

Ned
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 11, 2010, 03:27:13 pm: Thanks guys. Much appreciated.

No work today as I've been assembling IKEA furniature for the children. (to much of a challenge for some eh!!)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 12, 2010, 07:15:18 pm: Back to the boat with renewed vigour.

As I'd had problems obtaining the rubber bumper bar to go around the boat, I decided to make my own. To this end I have used a plastic water tube which was 18mm diameter.

The first picture shows the bisecting operation on the trusty band saw. The edges were cleaned off and the heat gun applied to a test piece to check the viability of setting a bend, longways. This proved OK as shown in the picture.

It was then on to fitting the cut length to the boat. I drilled some holes into the plastic and screwed the tube to the sides. As I progressed up the length, I applied the heat gun to shape it to match the curves encountered. I then undid the screws and applied superglue to the edges and re-screwed the shape onto the sides.

I shall be removing the screws and filling the little holes to make a smooth finish later.

I then made some cabinets for the upper deck and these are shown in the picture. The little man seems to be getting smaller. ok2 I do have to make a slatted floor for him to stand on, but he still need to be bigger.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on March 12, 2010, 07:50:22 pm: Coming on nicely Ken. :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 12, 2010, 08:42:36 pm: Thanks Dicky, trying to keep the costs down. I can't wait to get 'Glassing' but have to wait for warmer weather to assist the drying.

The window frames present the next set of problems. I believe there are sets of professionally made ones, but I shall go the 'cheap' route just for the fun of it. All the money I save will go towards the proper lecky stuff from ACTion.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 14, 2010, 08:41:15 pm: Spent the day on WINDOWS 2010

Here are a sequence of pictures on how I am making my 15 windows out of plastic.

First I cut the outline shape, followed by the inside glass opening. There are various sizes of window in batches of 'same sizes'. I put the same shapes together and cut out the holes in one go so that they all look the same.

I then cut a long thin band of plastic and ran it around the inside of the window and glued it in place. While the glue was drying, I decided to seal down the rear deck. This has presented me with another problem, in that the inspection hatch (being flat) does not follow the curve of the deck. I shall have to do some more 'inventing' ok2

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 17, 2010, 07:45:12 pm: The time has come to do the bolts around the windows and side panels.

This involves the use of the 'beads' I've recently purchased, a lot of patience, and no windy workshop. I set out a cloth on the house table and proceeded to glue each one on by hand.

Talk about tedious and labour intensive, it was a very long job. I felt like a dressmaker making a wedding dress. %)

The following pictures show the way I did it. When dry, I silver painted the windows and it doesn't half look so bad. Quite a good illusion now.

I then moved on to the side panels, where I glued the miniature 12BA nuts all around the frames. In all, I reckon on fitting about 200 with super glue. These will be painted the same colour as the cabin although they look flashy at the moment in chrome and stand out. I had considered not painting them but this would have meant fixing them on top of a painted cabin and they might have come loose.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on March 17, 2010, 09:46:23 pm: Ken, if you can avoid painting the chrome bolt heads please do so (except on the window frames) because this is how it is on the real Severn. You'll find that you're going to need 1600+ by the time the boat's finished! A real test of patience.

She continues to look good, and your work rate is amazing!

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 17, 2010, 10:09:54 pm: Yes, I did want to show the chrome, but I've glued them on now and would have to paint all round em all. I'd never get it perfect now.

I have a picture of the real ship and when they showed as the same colour as the cabin I thought this was how it was.

I could chisel them all off I suppose but, as they seem to be slightly larger than the original ship, I thought the paint would mask this discrepancy.

I'll sleep on it and have another think.

Cheers

ken

modified news

I've enlarged the ships photo's on the computer and they are indeed unpainted. :((

Out with the chisel
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: furball on March 18, 2010, 12:04:08 pm: When I built the Rother, I bought a hex punch set to do the heads of the bolts that hold the superstructure down.

...there's about 300 of them... %%

Lance
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 18, 2010, 02:16:18 pm: Thanks for the idea, Lance. I have been shopping again to look around for ideas and shapes and sizes.

I'm going to remove ALL I've done as it doesn't look right. I'm going to re do the white side panels. I've removed one of the plastic doors from the plywood cabin and it pulled a layer of wood off with it. :((

Good stuff, this super glue onto ply. Ah well, bite the bullet.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 21, 2010, 10:16:51 am: Well, that's the little bolt heads gorn. :embarrassed:

I've sanded them off and cleaned up the floor !! What a mess. Today I found the answer. I've bought some hexagon 2.3mm plastic bars and will be cutting over a thousand pieces to form imitation hexagon heads. The test results are very satisfactory so it's onwards and upwards.

I've also bought the copper tubes necessary for the bridge aerial masts. Spent the rest of the day cutting them to shape with my miniature pipe cutter. This makes a superb end to the tubes. I've soldered them together with my cake decorating welding torch and learnt a bit of welding techniques along the way. Doesn't copper get hot ... ouch !!

Here's a few pictures of my efforts. It should look good when painted black. The hollow tubes are ideal for inserting the wiring for the lights and radar.

ken
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Post by: DickyD on March 21, 2010, 11:12:02 am: Very impressive Ken :-))
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Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 21, 2010, 11:31:09 am: Thank you Dicky. I found it quite an expensive enterprise. Copper prices are quite something these days.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: dan on March 21, 2010, 06:36:54 pm: do you think that soldering/welding technique would work with 1mm wire ken?
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 21, 2010, 09:34:32 pm: Hi Dan

Yes it is possible. My first reaction was "What are you soldering it too?" and and my second reaction was, if you hold the blow torch on the wire for too long, then it will disintegrate. The secret is to heat the copper, then remove the torch, then apply the solder and watch it 'Flow' around the joint.

If you'd like to pop around then I can give you a few tips on how not to burn your finger.
(been there, done that) ;)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 21, 2010, 09:45:26 pm: Today I painted the structure with red oxide primer and put it out in the Sun shine. (yes, it did shine today). When dry, I sprayed it with Black silk aerosol paint and also let that dry before giving it a second coat.

On to the windows, I have cut out the plastic from CD cases and glued them to the backs of the previously made frames with super glue. This material did not bloom as does the lighter plastic I normally use, so there's a plus.

The plan is to fit these when the cabin has been painted. I have just noticed that there is one more window in the stern section so I'll have to go through all that again. (all them rivets are driving me mad !)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: dan on March 21, 2010, 09:47:32 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on March 21, 2010, 09:34:32 pm
Hi Dan

Yes it is possible. My first reaction was "What are you soldering it too?" and and my second reaction was, if you hold the blow torch on the wire for too long, then it will disintegrate. The secret is to heat the copper, then remove the torch, then apply the solder and watch it 'Flow' around the joint.

If you'd like to pop around then I can give you a few tips on how not to burn your finger.
(been there, done that) ;)

Ken

thanks Ken, its the mast wire work ill be doing, im fed up of sticking my fingers together or the metal rod to my hand using glue, so im thinking solders the way to go <*<
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 21, 2010, 09:59:57 pm: It would certainly be stronger and neater to do. A powerful soldering iron might do the job perfectly.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 24, 2010, 04:56:01 pm: Regarding the bumpers around the edge, I have found some more plastic tubing, only this time time it's in black.

I've made the final pieces to go around the boat. I had thought of ripping off the white strips but they wouldn't come off very easy without damage, so I've left them on. It's all going to be painted anyway so won't show up in the end. The easiest way to get the curves is to bend the tube with a heat gun, before cutting them down their length. I'm even more pleased with the result.

I have also made the 4 life canisters and started painting them. They are placed on the model just to get the effect at the moment. I then cut out the inside face of the rear section and fitted a rope drum which actually revolves.

I have been experimenting with bending copper pipe in readiness for the railings, but not having much luck. It tends to kink so I'm thinking of using solid copper/brass instead. I don't suppose the extra weight will be noticed on a boat this big. ok2

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on March 24, 2010, 08:15:08 pm: Looking great Ken, you'll soon be sailing her.

Are you still sending your good lady down the gym to do her weight training ?
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 24, 2010, 08:20:38 pm: Every time she comes in with a fresh cup of tea I say, "look what I've done, dear", she gives it a cursory glance and does appear to be dreading the launch day. :((

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 25, 2010, 07:03:11 pm: Today we continue with the brass work.

As there are a lot of railings on this craft I thought I might get into pipe bending seriously. To this end I went to "Help section" for information on benders and how they worked.

My thanks to everyone who responded and I came away with all the answers to assist me in my build.

I have constructed a pipe bender mechanism to handle up to 5mm pipes and show pictures of my construction attempts. It is a mechanical lever which rotates the pipe around a wheel and can be stopped at any angle to suit. Some of the forces necessary in its manufacture resulted in metal springing off and slicing the back of my hand. (see blood picture!)

In use with my 3mm pipe which is required for the Severn, the forces are quite gentle so no more worries of risk there.

I have completed the bow railings and show the pictures of them temporarily in place. This assembly has cost £20 so far, with the brass and lead etc. Just have to go all around the boat now with the rest of the railings.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Mat_B on March 25, 2010, 10:11:02 pm: Looks :-))
Blood adds to the model makes it feel like you have put more into it :}
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 26, 2010, 09:54:22 am: Quote from: Mat_B on March 25, 2010, 10:11:02 pm
Looks :-))
Blood adds to the model makes it feel like you have put more into it :}

Thanks Mat.

Thought I wouldn't show the sweat as it's not right. %)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: derekwarner on March 26, 2010, 10:28:24 am: Sorry all.....from OZ..... {-) it looks like Ken was measuring out the brass tube with RED texta........ & got a bit on the back of his hand ............. O0 {-) %% ;) ;D ....Derek
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 26, 2010, 04:21:54 pm: The perils of home builds, eh, Derek. :D

Did a bit more welding today and finished off the mast area. Also done was the section leading to the bow railings. The parts are not secured down yet and it's undecided whether to fix them in before painting or not.

I'm using the 5mm tube from the big superstore as it's cheaper than the short lengths locally. Unfortunately I had to go out in the rain and drive over to get some more, as this project is just eating up the stuff. There's another £30 of brass gone.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: me3 on March 26, 2010, 05:23:36 pm: hi ken
your build is incredibly impressive
all i can do is look up to you!!!!
i made a robbe najade. i fixed the handrails before painting the boat and the rails. it was an absolute nightmare to get the paint, for the boat, past the rails.
regards Reece
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 26, 2010, 07:34:39 pm: Thank you Reece, I agree with you about the painting. It's probably best to leave the deck uncluttered.

My concern was the fixing (strongly) to a painted surface. I shall probably revert to fixing holes being drilled into the painted deck. This will give a good mechanical bond to the rails.

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: me3 on March 26, 2010, 07:43:53 pm: That sounds good Ken. Another idea is you could drill the holes and then paint the model and the rails and glue them from the inside. (if you can get to the rails from the inside, which i doubt you can!!) :-)
Reece
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on March 26, 2010, 08:50:14 pm: Hi Ken

Sorry to butt in but the rails on the Severn are fixed to a T section kick board, not directly into the deck. Pity to spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar...................and all that!

Regards

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: gribeauval on March 26, 2010, 09:50:51 pm: Quote from: Brian Roberts on March 26, 2010, 08:50:14 pm
Hi Ken

Sorry to butt in but the rails on the Severn are fixed to a T section kick board, not directly into the deck. Pity to spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar...................and all that!

Regards

Brian

Only the side rails Brian, The front pulpit rails are fixed into sockets on the deck.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on March 26, 2010, 11:45:48 pm: Sorry Ken, thought you were referring to the side and transom rails.

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 27, 2010, 10:58:24 am: Thank you for all your thoughts. It is only the pulpit I was referring to as well as the ones on the flying bridge. Going to have a go on these today.

Can I ask some question please. Are the side deck rail tops made of flexible wire ?

How are the kick boards attached to the deck, as the leverage of the attached stanchions will be excessive ?

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on March 27, 2010, 11:06:02 am: brass washers soft soldered at the deck level make good flanges and if you use a small round file you can elongate them for on an angle, that way you set the hight from the deck and you can paint off the boat and fit at the end the washers hide the glue line.

Peter
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 27, 2010, 11:18:00 am: Brilliant. :-)) I'd seen the washers at the bottom of the rails and will be fitting them. They will cover the holes on the deck along with the glue underneath.

ps, where do you get the washers ?

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on March 27, 2010, 12:36:02 pm: hear are a few, I normally pick them up at shows, but from the people below

http://www.chronos.ltd.uk/acatalog/Chronos_Catalogue_BA_Washers_in_packs_of_25_301.html

http://shop.maidstone-engineering.co.uk/?mod=cat&cat_id=2&order=1

http://www.pollymodelengineering.co.uk/sections/bruce-engineering/materials.asp download free catalog.

https://www.maccmodels.co.uk/

I normally build on a template of ply but the deck is ok set the hight use a bit of bakers fluid and a very small torch as, you have to be carfull if you use an iron as they tend to move, I have found a small fine flame works great dont forget to put a few metal bulldog clips on the solder joint at the top to stop them getting soft if you overdo it a bit with the heat,

Peter

peter
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: gribeauval on March 27, 2010, 03:36:55 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on March 27, 2010, 10:58:24 am
Thank you for all your thoughts. It is only the pulpit I was referring to as well as the ones on the flying bridge. Going to have a go on these today.

Can I ask some question please. Are the side deck rail tops made of flexible wire ?

How are the kick boards attached to the deck, as the leverage of the attached stanchions will be excessive ?

Ken

The side rails from the steps forward are both flexible cable and the stern rails are rigid, same as on the Trent.

On the Trent I am building I have bolted the kick boards through the deck with 3mm bolts, then filled the heads to improve the looks. The stanchions were then bolted to the kick boards with 12BA nuts and bolts. This is a very strong fixing and with the silver soldered stern rails the whole boat can be lifted by the rails with no problems at all! The side stanchions are also bolted on to the kick boards in the same way.

Mike
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 28, 2010, 11:58:35 am: Thank you Mike, that's perfect. Solves my problems here beautifully. I like the pictures as it says it all.

Cheers

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 28, 2010, 12:06:50 pm: Quote
I normally build on a template of ply but the deck is ok set the hight use a bit of bakers fluid and a very small torch as, you have to be careful if you use an iron as they tend to move, I have found a small fine flame works great don't forget to put a few metal bulldog clips on the solder joint at the top to stop them getting soft if you overdo it a bit with the heat.
Peter

Thank you for that peter. Very helpful indeed. I shall be going shopping now.

I have progressed with the welding and have completed some of the upper bridge deck surrounds. Will be tackling the inner rails today. Really getting the hang of this construction 'lark' now and feeling confident.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Perkasaman2 on March 29, 2010, 09:50:42 am: Vundabar! Kenny :-)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 31, 2010, 07:49:13 pm: As you can imagine, this is taking up an awful lot of brass tube to make these rails. I went out yesterday and bought another £60 worth of the stuff. It's amazing where it all goes. I've even had to buy a gas refill tube for my little welding torch

Today I made the rear rails and started on the side ones for the steps. I've just placed them on at the moment to get the general effect.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 31, 2010, 07:53:58 pm: I've also finished off the top of the Ariel mast and fitted the down supports to the deck of the flying bridge.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: derekwarner on April 01, 2010, 07:30:46 am: Ken says....... "I went out yesterday and bought another £60 worth of the stuff" mmmmmm but the result is worth it Ken.....great rails & a clean & straight soldering job ......Derek :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 01, 2010, 10:44:24 am: Thank you Derek. Yes, solder. Now there's another expense. %) Surprisingly light for all that metal. Let's hope she floats.

Day off today as the knees are playing up. Nice quiet day visiting relatives. ok2

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on April 01, 2010, 11:09:02 am: Kenny it's sad when the paint goes on the brass work, all the work seems to disappear I have been painting some of the fireboat bits I did and a week of work could have been a white metal part just glued together.

but it is nice working in brass, so its a Lath next then Kenny?.

Peter
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: derekwarner on April 01, 2010, 11:34:01 am: Oh dear ....Ken says "Nice quiet day visiting relatives" .... do you mean a visit by the the Easter Bunny this weekend Ken???????.... :embarrassed: ;D O0 {-) %%

Oh BTW I like the constant radius with the tube work as achieved with your home made tube bender ....the result is :-))

As I have mentioned here on Mayhem to [email protected] is better to see than true....vertical & horizontal tube work....however nothing is worse than bent curvey spaghetti tubing ...... {:-{ - Derek
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 02, 2010, 11:20:53 am: Quote from: HS93 on April 01, 2010, 11:09:02 am
Kenny it's sad when the paint goes on the brass work, all the work seems to disappear I have been painting some of the fireboat bits I did and a week of work could have been a white metal part just glued together.

but it is nice working in brass, so its a Lath next then Kenny?.

Peter

How true. I mentioned this to my good lady and she agrees with you. Why not have it as polished brass. O0... it would certainly look OK, until the time came to re polish them.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 02, 2010, 11:31:44 am: Quote from: derekwarner_decoy on April 01, 2010, 11:34:01 am
Oh dear ....Ken says "Nice quiet day visiting relatives" .... do you mean a visit by the the Easter Bunny this weekend Ken???????.... :embarrassed: ;D O0

Back to the real world. It's quite "Mayhem " out there. My goodness, the grandchild was quite energetic. Great fun playing with a modern Plasticine substance called 'Play doh'. (had thoughts of 'how can I use this stuff in my hobby?)

Quote
Oh BTW I like the constant radius with the tube work as achieved with your home made tube bender ....the result is :-)) Derek

Thank you. I guess it's all about the final look, and I wanted it right. The little machine is encouraging to use as it does come out as desired. ;) Seems a pity to paint it (see above)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 02, 2010, 08:02:43 pm: Finally finished the heavy welding today. I've even made the swinging gates on the rear deck.

Here's the lot in one shot. Total cost of all that brass is unprintable (while she's watching).

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 02, 2010, 08:05:54 pm: Time to get on with the painting. Yippee!!

First job is to undercoat the cabin, so it was out with the red oxide paint.

As you can see, the can ran out of pressure so tomorrow it's off out to the shops again. Must have a word with the bank manager. He wants to go back to the old system where I gave Him money. %)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: barryfoote on April 02, 2010, 09:03:45 pm: She is looking great Ken. I do not envy all that time spent "welding" that brass!! :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 02, 2010, 09:16:03 pm: Thanks Footski, it did seem to go on and on. I did however succeed in setting fire to my thumb nail and skin with the blow torch. :embarrassed:

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 04, 2010, 04:16:45 pm: Armed with some new cans I've set about the cabin with gusto.

As it's all one colour now it's easier to see the flaws, so I've been bust with P28 filler today. I shall be sanding it all down smooth and then it's time for ORANGE. :o

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 04, 2010, 04:20:13 pm: Can you see what it is yet ?

My thanks to CJ1 and Russ for their advice. :-))

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Number 6 on April 04, 2010, 06:39:14 pm: That'll be the 'y' boat then sport! %)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 05, 2010, 10:51:01 am: Well done No.6 More of a U boat at the moment. Just the inflatable bit.

Question --- is the floor at ground level or 1/4 of the way up the floats?

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Perkasaman2 on April 05, 2010, 11:11:57 am: Quelle Gusto Kenny! :o ;)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 05, 2010, 07:46:18 pm: Correct ---- sort of the Lifeboat's lifeboat.

I have made the Y boat from a cut down wooden tool handle. The pieces were cut to shape and glued under pressure (the bricks). Today I cut the base board from thin ply and the hood from the same ply and glued them together. It had now been painted with red oxide and left to dry.

I have sanded down the small fillings done to the cabin and also resprayed with more red oxide (I do love that stuff. Sands well and can be quite smooth ready for top coat.)

Here's the latest pictures.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: fatcat123 on April 05, 2010, 09:58:30 pm: Hi,

Been following the build with great interest and have to say its looking brilliant. Better than i thought it would be using the materials provided. Mike P is building me a speedline trent which looks good but this thing looks equallay as good for considerably less price! I so wish I had as much imagination, but maybe in another life.

Really really looking forward to seeing the build progress.

P.S, i'm also on another site building a wyeforce!?!?! You left a comment on the thread... ;D

Dan
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 06, 2010, 11:29:59 am: Quote from: fatcat123 on April 05, 2010, 09:58:30 pm
Hi,

Been following the build with great interest and have to say its looking brilliant. Better than i thought it would be using the materials provided.

Dan

Hi Dan, thank you very much. I suppose it comes from having a lot of spare time and no money. :} I look around for equivalent shape I need to make and choose a suitable material and off I go.

Yes, this hasn't cost much so far, but the heavy bills are about to start. I'll list them as I go along.

I also fancied the Speedline version and can now see why the parts cost so much. I've found the costs of the brass tubing was horrifying, but I was committed to that design, so had to continue. 'Er indoors' was not impressed at the time but can now see it's almost worth it.

I like to comment on other peoples build enquiries if I can help in any way, 'caus I know how it feels. I, myself , need all the help I can get. O0

The Sun has come out and today is "Orange day". Yippee!!! out with spray paint. %)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: dan on April 06, 2010, 07:53:18 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on April 06, 2010, 11:29:59 am

The Sun has come out and today is "Orange day". Yippee!!! out with spray paint. %)

any pictures of it painted ken?
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 06, 2010, 08:42:52 pm: Hi Dan

Funny you say that. I've just come out of the shower, getting the white spirit off my self.

I have sprayed the cabin with bright orange from Volkswagen and not too pleased with effect on the plywood. The small indents of the wood are showing through. Not what I would call a smooth surface. Hmph!! I wonder how many coats it's going to need.

I shall wait until it dries and see how sanding will help tomorrow. Do you know, it took a whole can just to spray the cabin. Good job I bought three tins. {:-{

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: gribeauval on April 06, 2010, 09:16:05 pm: Don't use the red oxide as a filler coat Ken, it doesn't work as a grain filler on the plywood as you have found out !!

Get a tin of the spray filler/primer and use that first, then you need a white primer followed by the orange otherwise the colour goes too dark.

Mike
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 06, 2010, 09:22:36 pm: Can I add this new stuff to the existing coats I have on at the moment. pretty please. (what a problem I've created for myself !!)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: gribeauval on April 06, 2010, 10:28:50 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on April 06, 2010, 09:22:36 pm
Can I add this new stuff to the existing coats I have on at the moment. pretty please. (what a problem I've created for myself !!)

ken

If the brand is the same e.g. all from Halfords, then yes.

If not then you can try a little spray in one part and see if they react with each other, if no reaction then yes, if they react then you can get a barrier coat spray to use first (this isolates the bottom coats from the new ones).

It's either this way or at least another 5 or 6 coats of the red oxide to fill the surface, maybe. ;D

Remember over ply its: 1) Filler/primer (possibly a couple of coats) gently sanded down
   2) white primer(possibly a couple of coats) gently sanded down
   3) Orange top coats x 2 at least (Thin layers, not thick and runny!)
   4) If you want a super gloss finish then a couple of coats of clear gloss spray (same brand as the paint !) over the top followed a week later by very,very fine rubbing compound to give a level surface then good quality polish to finish. :-))

Best of luck as it's a lot of work but worth it in the end as most Lifeboats are kept in immaculate condition.

Mike

p.s This filler/ primer system applies to the wooden hull as well, just use a GREY primer under the blue and red of the hull. ;)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 07, 2010, 11:18:04 am: Thank you for all that information Mike. I shall take it on board.

I went out to the workshop today and filmed the results so far. As you can see, the plywood has come through the paint, as if it's been sucked in to the grooves. This is the worst effect I've ever seen and looks quite tragic, but with your advice, I shall proceed carefully to achieve a better finish. It's a shame this paint is £6 per tin as there are three tins on the cabin so far.

With regards to the hull, then this will be epoxied, so a different approach there. That section of work has now moved farther away and I can't float her until it's done.

Ken

ps --- any suggestions as to where I can get a 1:12 scale 'Hiab crane' please.

pps ---- Just noticed that I'm up to 5000 pictures on my trusty camera. :-)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 07, 2010, 11:20:06 am: Here are some pictures 'closer up view'
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 07, 2010, 07:18:43 pm: I have been sanding all day today. The surface is now as flat as I can get it so I've sprayed on a coat of filler/primer.

Here are the results, which looks quite promising. We shall have to wait for it to dry before another sanding (lightly this time).

I expect you're getting fed up of the cabin and it's colours but there is only white and orange to go before we can continue with the build. ok2

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 09, 2010, 05:07:33 pm: Here's the white version.

First coat of undercoat applied and drying nicely in the sun

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 09, 2010, 05:10:36 pm: Using "the more paint the merrier" I have started using up various tins of the stuff. The Lifeboat's little lifeboat has turned green and I have now made a tapered base for her.

Here it is under clamps.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 12, 2010, 07:33:41 pm: The new tapered base is fitted to the rescue RIB and now sprayed, so I thought I'd make the outboard motor for it.

To this end I've cut a block of wood and shaped the whole thing in one piece. The picture shows the spare block of wood in case the chisel slipped !

The cabin has it's 6th tin of paint on it and needs just one more can to finish off.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 19, 2010, 07:56:31 pm: Had a busy time of late. The hull has been fibre glassed with fine cloth and resin. This was done with the help of the 'Fibre glassing expert' from my local Yacht club, who was following my build and wanted to help me achieve the best possible finish. This will be covered with a white 'Flow coat' of epoxy when dry. This had to be done on the weekend, so out of the window went the Shepton Mallet show trip.

The insides were also soaked in epoxy and drained to give a nice finish. (had to be careful it didn't run down the prop or Rudder shafts !!) See pictures.

While all this was drying I got on with the cabin refurbishment. I have sprayed it a nice orange colour along with the base line of Blue ( courtesy of Vauxhall cars) which now makes it seven tins of aerosol paint %)

I then fitted the previously made windows complete with their surrounding rivets. Then I made the windscreen wipers and mounts and these have been glued in place. The rope swing out arms were made of brass and attached on pivots to the cabin walls. See further pictures.

The lifeboats RIB was painted again and the false floor fitted along with the steering column. The outboard motor was painted in it's livery and attached to the stern. No picture yet as it's still under clamps.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: 6705russell on April 19, 2010, 09:58:19 pm: Looking good Ken, its gonna be one heavvvvyyy boat. ;)

Russ
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 20, 2010, 08:31:57 pm: I've just weighed her on the bathroom scales. 34 pounds with the flowcoat on.

Unfortunately I was advised to add a thickener and I made it too thick. Now it has dried it's reminiscent of the tide coming in, frozen in time !!! I shall be sanding for days to correct this, so no pictures for a while. :((

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 21, 2010, 09:55:23 am: Well all right then, here's what I have so far. It's not as bad as first thought as it seems to have settled in.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: derekwarner on April 21, 2010, 11:29:35 am: Oh dear Ken......... {:-{ should I post over a few 6"x4" sheets of 120 grit....then 240 grit then up to 1200 W&D

Probably I should include 1000 ml of the OZ wetting water & that would help %% :-)) Derek
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Perkasaman2 on April 21, 2010, 05:44:10 pm: Hi Kenny B&Q sell 'green grit' sand paper made by 'Oakley' in the basic grades. It's more expensive but I've found it superior in heavier duty rubbing down than the usual cheaper stuff. It's very durable and appears to resist clogging and is more easily de-clogged with gentle use of a fine wire brush. It's good stuff. :-)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 21, 2010, 07:08:41 pm: Thank you all for your kind comments. Had a chat with Bluebird today and he's sending me some Hankies. 8) We have formulated a plan and I feel we might get through this.

I've left it for another day to harden further before the onslaught of gritty compounds and got on with some more of her features. The vent tubes are completed and painted and the bow capstan and large bollard are now finished. I was ready to fix the painted railings when I was called upon to cut the lawns. That took the rest of my energy for today. %)

Here's a novelty snap shot of the completed lifeboat R.I.B with outboard motor. :D The supports are wrong in that they go bow to stern and not across the deck as shown.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: johno 52-11 on April 21, 2010, 07:44:56 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on April 20, 2010, 08:31:57 pm
I've just weighed her on the bathroom scales. 34 pounds with the flowcoat on.

Unfortunately I was advised to add a thickener and I made it too thick. Now it has dried it's reminiscent of the tide coming in, frozen in time !!! I shall be sanding for days to correct this, so no pictures for a while. :((

ken

Ken you know that to float to its lines a 1/12 Severn should have an total weight of 25Kg 55 pounds.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 21, 2010, 08:23:16 pm: Now 'That' is very useful information. Thanks Johno.

I shall be removing a LOT of 'flow coat' so hopefully it should slim down the old girl. :-))

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: John W E on April 21, 2010, 08:46:24 pm: Hey Kenny I do hope you are referring to your boat there...... %%......i.e. slimming the old girl down..... {-).....and resist all temptations to use a belt sander on her THE MODEL THAT IS - or even a Black n Decker with a cutting disc on.....

happy days....

dont worry we have all been there!

At least its a model and not a full size one THIS TIME!!! cos who knows whats on your building list for the next one :-)) :-)) I hope its not a half scale Titanic.....

aye
john e
bluebird
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 22, 2010, 05:33:35 pm: Hi John

I've been working on this Goliath all day and it looks a little better. Trouble is, every time I came out on the patio to dust off, 'Er indoors' shouted at me to keep away from the flowers. Dust everywhere. I spent most of my time with a face mask on. Had to 'Vac' the garage afterwards. (never again will I venture into glassing!!)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 23, 2010, 07:28:23 pm: On to the best part now.

I've got around to fitting the completed little parts onto the cabin. The railings are in along with the pivoted sub cranes. :-)) Now she's looking on her way up.

The hull only needs final smoothing (and filling again!!) before we can start on the spray paint, but I'm on wifie's "stop" while the fine weather is about. ok2

Further good news is the arrival of the real Rubber for the crash bumpers. You may have noticed the cut plastic tube had already been stripped off. The rubber ones will be fitted after the paint job to ensure a precision line around the top of the hull.

The double prop Bow thruster has arrived and the holes in the hull will be cut soon to accommodate it. I shall have to work under the sealed fore deck, but then 'Why make it easy eh!'

Going in top gear now as she will be at the Mayhem Bash whether she sinks or not. :-))

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: debssnal on April 23, 2010, 08:36:47 pm: Hi ken,
looking good mate.then you do have two little workers helping you.looks like you have give them the day off today.
did not see them around your boat lol.keep up the good work.
kind regards
Alan
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 23, 2010, 08:45:00 pm: Thanks Alan. The men are on holiday as it's nice weather. %)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on April 23, 2010, 09:09:38 pm: Looking better Ken.

So you are going to sink it at the Mayhem bash then, don't forget the video. O0
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 23, 2010, 09:14:38 pm: Hiya Dicky. I shall be bringing my underwater gear this time. O0

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 24, 2010, 10:40:21 pm: Today I made a crane

Step one was to trace the drawings for an outline of the crane. This was then cut around the edge and used as a template.

Step two involved cutting the four separate parts into their correct dimensions in duplicate and joining them with side pieces to make long box structures.

Step three involved fitting them together with pivot pins and making the hydrolic arms from two brass tubes which slide inside each other.

I have sprayed the crane with primer and it's now ready for some Orange paint. (I've run out, so this will be tin seven !)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 27, 2010, 08:14:01 pm: The Hull is now rubbed down as smooth as I can get it and we have applied the first coat of primer.

Beginning to look the part now, except for the latest crew to join, who looks a bit muscle bound and Big. :} I shall keep looking for a correct size gentleman to drive her.

The Orange paint is in and the crane is drying at the moment. I have made the life rings and sprayed them also. Pictures to follow.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on April 27, 2010, 09:09:03 pm: Thats looking more like it Ken :-))

Whats wrong with George Turner figures ?

http://www.georgeturnermodels.com/index.php?page=shopping&shop_cat_id=63
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 27, 2010, 09:23:25 pm: Hiya Dicky.

Yes, they are superb and would grace my 'little' craft a treat, and look the BIZ.

I'm still saving up for them, only I keep seeing other figures at a pound each and get tempted. I mean to say that four of them would exceed the price of my home built hull. %)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on April 27, 2010, 09:31:19 pm: Come on Ken, you're not a Scot.

They would enhance and add value to your master piece :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 27, 2010, 09:43:46 pm: Dicky, I jest.

This is the obvious route so I'm off shopping. O0

How's your build going?

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: bradboat on April 27, 2010, 09:48:04 pm: Have to agree Ken - George Turner figures take some beating - even if I did berate him at Shepton Mallet for taking away our fun in painting them :((
Still, unpainted figures are promised in the future, and we can still repaint if we feel the need :-)
Will talk on Sunday

Brad
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on April 27, 2010, 09:48:49 pm: Plodding on Ken, it seems to take forever, two and a half days to make 3 guns.

Oh for some decent drawings.

Am still posting the build .
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 03, 2010, 07:17:12 pm: The crane is all finished and assembled to the boat. It fits onto a empty cotton reel lovely.

I have it bolted to the deck so that it can swivel around. Life is too short to motorise it !!

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 03, 2010, 07:19:27 pm: I've found curtain rings which are ideal for my lifebelts.

I painted them red and wound some white rope around them to simulate the effect.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 03, 2010, 07:23:21 pm: I was studying the hull and found a few dimples which caught the light, so it was out with the 'wet' n' dry for another smoothing exercise.

It really is becoming tedious trying to get a clean straight finish on this hull. My good lady says ' enough is enough' and who's going to look anyway. Mmmm.

You will notice I have fitted the Raboesch Bow Thruster 30/33mm x148mm, at a cost of £69.95. %) I hope it turns this heavy beast around.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 05, 2010, 10:27:34 pm: Onwards with the paint cans.

The weekend was a smelly few days for fumes as we got on with the paint job. First job was the lower hull which was under coated and then sprayed with Red for half of the hull. Extra was allowed for beyond the water line mark.

Then it was time to mask off this section to allow the Blue for the upper hull to be applied

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 05, 2010, 10:37:38 pm: The day for celebration has arrived. ;) %) :} O0

We have FINALLY painted the Blue to the upper hull and here is the result.

I have fitted some of the completed parts and taken her to the garden for a film shoot, Great joy and celebrations in this house, I can tell you. Thank God it's all over. What a mammoth task. Ten tins of aerosol paint, along with half a gallon of epoxy and cloth, semi ruined by a thick Flow coat of epoxy and Six sheets of sand paper. (and I don't know if it floats yet !!)

and I've still got the decking to cover with paint. %)

Day off tomorrow while I see the Bank manager for arrangements to get the electronics for her.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Peter Fitness on May 05, 2010, 10:47:56 pm: Outstanding Ken, it looks fantastic :-))

Peter.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 05, 2010, 10:55:56 pm: Thank you Peter. It wasn't easy, as you gather from my build blog recently. :embarrassed:

I'm very happy now the mucky stuff is over. ;)

Regards

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on May 05, 2010, 11:11:42 pm: Hi Ken

Your Severn looks and is fantastic. the speed at which you've created this scratch build is amazing. My 1/12th Severn took eighteen months and that was from a "kit"!

As I'm sure you're aware the deck has a non slip coating applied, and on mine I mixed some very fine sand (courtesy of my friend Phil Locke) with a suitable matt grey paint and it made a very realistic job. If it's not too late, and you'd like some please let me know and I'll post a bit to you.

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: jenno on May 05, 2010, 11:20:40 pm: Totally agree Ken very outstanding workmanship bring her up to Bryn Bach Park on our open day 11th September finished or not.

Jenno.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Martin (Admin) on May 06, 2010, 09:01:33 am: Looking good Ken. :-))

I thought it was blue on the bottom and red up top?! %)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 06, 2010, 11:16:35 am: Quote from: Brian Roberts on May 05, 2010, 11:11:42 pm
Hi Ken

As I'm sure you're aware the deck has a non slip coating applied, and on mine I mixed some very fine sand (courtesy of my friend Phil Locke) with a suitable matt grey paint and it made a very realistic job. If it's not too late, and you'd like some please let me know and I'll post a bit to you.

Brian

Thanks for the offer Brian. I'm all right for sand, but I did get gloss paint. Hope it dulls down!!
I'm really looking forward to fitting the "little bits" which should enhance her a bit. ok2 Yesterday I 'turned' a dowel in the bench drill to make some capstans to go with the home made bollards. Pictures when they're painted.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 06, 2010, 11:22:04 am: Quote from: jenno on May 05, 2010, 11:20:40 pm
Totally agree Ken very outstanding workmanship bring her up to Bryn Bach Park on our open day 11th September finished or not.

Jenno.

Thank you Jenno. I shall be at Bryn Bach Park as I do like this lake. Should be able to stretch her motors a bit eh !! Just don't stand too close to the paintwork or you might change your mind. :}

I refer to the red section at the stern. You can just see where the masking tape pulled off a bit of paint. :((

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 06, 2010, 11:27:12 am: Quote from: Martin - admin. on May 06, 2010, 09:01:33 am
Looking good Ken. :-))

I thought it was blue on the bottom and red up top?! %)

Thank you Martin. Where would I be with the wonderful membership we have here. So much knowledge on here to be tapped.

I'd like to thank 'ALL' the guys that helped me in my endeavours. Yes, you had me check the drawings yet again. Paint indeed. 8) We now have something to bring to Wicksteed Park. Yippee.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: ironman on May 08, 2010, 03:05:14 pm: Very good looking boat Ken. ironman
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 08, 2010, 04:20:23 pm: Thanks Ironman, she does have some classic lines eh!!

Undercoated the deck today ready for the grey to follow. Given up early while I wait for paint to dry. %)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: flundle on May 08, 2010, 06:09:15 pm: Hi. Just been bringing myself up to date with your Severn build. Looks super.
I had some 1/12th scale section fendering made for the Tamar kit which is perfect for the Severn of course (if you haven't already sorted it). It's just £6 per metre. I still have some D section I used on the Severn kit originally (which was the £40 item) but since it's the 'end of the roll so to speak, £20 to you sir!
Adrian (Speedline models).
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: derekwarner on May 09, 2010, 12:56:05 am: {-) Tug---Kenny says ....... "Day off tomorrow while I see the Bank manager for arrangements to get the electronics for her" .... {-) %% {-) sorry Ken.....but I am a bit lost with the translation heeeeeeere :D

1. is your Bank manager a person of female gender?
2. if so, does she use alkaline or ni-cad batteries?
3. is this a real person from a real Bank [financial institution].......or is it your good wife you are referring to?
4. if the latter part of point 3. is correct ....could I suggest you wipe that white paint of the brown out door round table prior to asking for your funds......... >>:-( <:( Derek :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 09, 2010, 11:37:30 am: Quote from: flundle on May 08, 2010, 06:09:15 pm
Hi. Just been bringing myself up to date with your Severn build. Looks super.
I had some 1/12th scale section fendering made for the Tamar kit which is perfect for the Severn of course (if you haven't already sorted it). It's just £6 per metre. I still have some D section I used on the Severn kit originally (which was the £40 item) but since it's the 'end of the roll so to speak, £20 to you sir!
Adrian (Speedline models).

Thank you for your kind comments, Adrian. I have already got hold of some rubber suitable for fendering, so thanks for for the offer. I may be back for other items. I look forward to seeing you at the Mayhem Bash. I might see something else that I need.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 09, 2010, 11:50:40 am: Quote from: derekwarner_decoy on May 09, 2010, 12:56:05 am
{-) Tug---Kenny says ....... "Day off tomorrow while I see the Bank manager for arrangements to get the electronics for her" .... {-) %% {-) sorry Ken.....but I am a bit lost with the translation heeeeeeere :D

Hi Derek.

You are correct in your thoughts. ok2 :} "Er indoors" wanted a day out shopping and as she seems to like my boat now it's painted, so I thought persuasion would be easier now. It paid off and I was able to see 'Our man at ACTion' for my electrical needs. We could see those big Brass propeller whizzing around soon. :-))

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 09, 2010, 11:58:26 am: Took a few pictures yesterday with some more 'bits' placed on deck. Today we fill the decks with Sand and light grey paint. ooh er !!!

The first one shows the scale of this beast when placed against the good ship Imara before she went to her new home.

I've only got two boats left now, so I have a lot of spare 'shelf wood' going nowhere. %)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 09, 2010, 06:05:27 pm: I've made the grey paint with Humbrol white and a splash of black. To this I've added some very thin sand and brush painted it onto the decks.

This is the final effect which seem to have come out all right. While this was drying I made a lifebelt holder from brass strip and secured it to the railing.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: me3 on May 09, 2010, 06:26:52 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on May 09, 2010, 11:58:26 am
The first one shows the scale of this beast when placed against the good ship Imara before she went to her new home.
Hello Ken
Are you going to sell it? Really impressive work mind!!
Regards Reece
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 09, 2010, 06:36:31 pm: Hi Reece.

Thank you for your compliments. The Imara has been sold and taken away today, sorry if this is the one you were referring to. Such a nice ship to own that I might make another one, only this time as the 'Perseverance', the War time version.

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: me3 on May 09, 2010, 06:56:13 pm: Ah ha
I misread it, I read it as you were selling the Severn. {-)
Regards Reece
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 09, 2010, 07:05:48 pm: No Problem, Reece. Watch this space and if she becomes available, you will be first to know. ;)

It's certainly a fun build as you can see. I like to report 'Wharts and all' in my blogs because I'm still on a learning curve and want to get it right. :} It's nice to know you like it and makes me feel proud.

Thank you,
Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: dan on May 09, 2010, 07:36:29 pm: looking awesome ken :-)) i think i might have to come and visit it soon O0
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 09, 2010, 07:41:10 pm: Hi Dan, Where you bin!! I hope you pass them exams. :}

Come on down any time

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: triumphjon on May 09, 2010, 07:56:25 pm: i know its a while sonce this was posted ! when i biult my tyne also 1/12 scale i got my d rubber from PENTONVILLE RUBBER , 501 PENTONVILLE ROAD , PENTONVILLE , LONDON , they sell almost any profile you could ever want including automotive screen seals ! . when attatching it to my grp hull i used a loctite industrial super glue that was also waterproof (wasnt cheap though ) hope this may be of some use ?

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Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 10, 2010, 11:08:56 am: Thank you for the information Triumpjon.

I have the rubber and as soon as I can get outa 'eer, I will be fixing it on today. :-)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 10, 2010, 07:19:08 pm: Fitted the rubber strip around the sides and all secured with tape until the glue dries overnight. Don't want them falling off at sea !!

I have also started securing the deck items and made a start on the stanchions. These I have to make myself as they are rather large items. I have yet to secure down the rear rails so they are just on there for effect.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 16, 2010, 08:57:44 pm: The glued fenders have dried out nice and firm so we got on with the wiring up.

I have made it all on one sliding board which slides under the rear deck out of view. (see pic). She is now equipped with Action's speed control gear and distribution boxes, twin 900 motors and servo connected to the twin rudders. The Bow thruster was wired up to a six volt supply on it's own battery The prop tubes and rudder tubes have been greased so it was time to fill the test pool.

The weight has now increased beyond my lifting capabilities so she was taken out into the garden in bits and assembled on the water. I have found during the float test that 15 Kg of batteries are needed to bring her down the marks. She was actually only designed for one 12 volt and one 6 volt battery so now I know I can fit bigger amp/hour ones. This should cover massive load from the motors and future electric items. The buoyancy is quite fantastic even with these weights on board.

I played around with motors by driving into the edge of the pool at at full power, only to bounce right off. Must get up the local lake for better tests. I let her sit around in the water for half an hour and no leaks have been reported.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on May 16, 2010, 09:04:15 pm: Thats looking really good Ken, mind you, you would get on a lot faster with it if you didnt keep playing with it. ok2
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 16, 2010, 09:15:31 pm: True, but it is the best part. O0

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Perkasaman2 on May 16, 2010, 11:58:00 pm: Kenny you are amazing - The portable trim trial tank is a clever solution. ;) A pair of 12v 12amp sla's won't sink this heavyweight. Have you thought/have a service name for the kenny7?
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: FullLeatherJacket on May 17, 2010, 07:45:26 am: Ken
HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!!! You should be using Mode 4 50% mix with that big beast, not Mode 3 - or it will turn itself inside out if you turn at full speed. Switch 1 OFF; Switch 2 ON; Pot R1 all the way anticlockwise.
FLJ
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 17, 2010, 10:18:34 am: Quote from: Perkasaman on May 16, 2010, 11:58:00 pm
Have you thought/have a service name for the kenny7?

Hi Perkasaman.

It has crossed my mind and I decided not to name her after an existing boat for fear of 'Rivet counters". I shall number her 17-02 as per the drawings and maybe call her 'Prototype'.

I'm going to fit wheels to the support frame so that I can 'run' her down the slope at Wicksteed. Mind you, I shall have Dan with me to drive home should my Back give in. %)

Thanks for the compliments.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 17, 2010, 10:27:42 am: Quote from: FullLeatherJacket on May 17, 2010, 07:45:26 am
Ken
HOLD THE FRONT PAGE!!! You should be using Mode 4 50% mix with that big beast, not Mode 3 - or it will turn itself inside out if you turn at full speed. Switch 1 OFF; Switch 2 ON; Pot R1 all the way anticlockwise.
FLJ

Thank you for your advice FLJ. I did turn the 'Pot' to remove motor buzz !!.

I wondered why she was swinging on the water. Such power with Mark's motors. 8) Mind you, the cost in amps will shorten sailing time. ;) After the weight test, I can now move up to 20 amp/hours

Nice quiet day today, running the railing wires around the deck. :}

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Perkasaman2 on May 17, 2010, 11:55:15 am: You do nothing by halves - O0
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 17, 2010, 08:31:02 pm: Fitted the railings today and started on the 'Livery'. My goodness, she's coming alive.

No pictures until I've completed this bit. ok2

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: johno 52-11 on May 17, 2010, 08:50:42 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on May 17, 2010, 10:18:34 am

Hi Perkasaman.

It has crossed my mind and I decided not to name her after an existing boat for fear of 'Rivet counters". I shall number her 17-02 as per the drawings and maybe call her 'Prototype'.

I'm going to fit wheels to the support frame so that I can 'run' her down the slope at Wicksteed. Mind you, I shall have Dan with me to drive home should my Back give in. %)

Thanks for the compliments.

Ken

Just putting my Lifeboat anorak on for a moment :D :D :D

Ken 17-02 was named "The Will" and was a station boat at Falmouth from 97-01 before going into the relief fleet.

If you do not want to base it on a particular boat number it 17-47 because they only built 46

Yours

A sad Lifeboat Anorak :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 17, 2010, 09:01:17 pm: Wow. I'm glad you said that. It's nice to be an anorak. ok2

Thanks Johno.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 21, 2010, 08:09:58 pm: As you can see we have opted for our house number on the boat and called her 17-64

I have been busy putting on all the deck furniture and having a great time. The radar is fitted and rotates lovely and all the transfers have been fitted. I've fitted out the Ariel masts and now keep catching them on things when I move the boat. %)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 21, 2010, 08:11:51 pm: Still more work to be done, so see if you can guess from this picture. 8)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on May 21, 2010, 08:22:38 pm: Excellent Job Ken, very nice, when's its maiden sinking.

Your road must be long if your house number is 1764
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 21, 2010, 08:25:34 pm: It's going to be VERY secret, Richard. 8) 8)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: jenno on May 21, 2010, 08:37:19 pm: Very nice Ken,get her finished before our show at Bryn Bach.

Jenno
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 21, 2010, 08:46:41 pm: You can count on it.. Wouldn't miss it for the world. :-))

She'll be ready for Wicksteed on the 29th. ok2

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on May 21, 2010, 08:50:10 pm: Trim tabs ken?!!

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 21, 2010, 08:59:54 pm: ............... Got in one .............

:-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: dan on May 21, 2010, 10:29:29 pm: superb ken, it'll look brilliant on the water :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 22, 2010, 07:54:11 pm: Thanks Dan. Must get her bottom wet soon. 8)

Here's the fitted Trim tabs which completes the stern section. Today the flying bridge window frame materials arrived, so onwards and upwards. ok2

Carried her out into the blazing sun today. Once again, in bits as she's really is getting heavy now.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: SteamboatPhil on May 22, 2010, 08:26:13 pm: One great job Kenny, can't wait to see her next weekend :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 22, 2010, 08:40:44 pm: Hi Phil. Nice to hear from you. Thank you for your kind comments.

Will YOU be the one catching her on the straight running contest.

Better get a police armour vest. :} :} :}

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: SNOOPDOG32 on May 23, 2010, 07:59:24 pm: That's the best looking pallet i've ever seen {-) {-) {-)

You have done a cracking job there ken all the best for Wickstead it will be the star of the show :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Clive
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 23, 2010, 08:05:19 pm: Thank you Clive. Yes, made from an old Pallet, and a bit of sanding. %)

14 weeks into the build so far. She will be at Wicksteed, but don't look too close.. :D :D

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on May 23, 2010, 08:22:08 pm: What are you going to build next Ken [if you're allowed] ? ok2
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: SNOOPDOG32 on May 23, 2010, 08:39:01 pm: A PALLET {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 24, 2010, 07:52:03 pm: Quote from: DickyD on May 23, 2010, 08:22:08 pm
What are you going to build next Ken [if you're allowed] ? ok2

Hi Richard,

A coal house first. She placed her order early. Then I don't really know what to go for. ;)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on May 24, 2010, 08:04:50 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on May 24, 2010, 07:52:03 pm
Hi Richard,

A coal house first. She placed her order early. Then I don't really know what to go for. ;)

Ken

Scratch built I assume Ken.

Did you not tell your good lady that a lady like herself should not be humping coal and that you would not object if she paid to have gas put in instead ? %)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 24, 2010, 08:08:52 pm: Had a go on the flying bridge windows today. This is my third attempt as I seemed to be having trouble with the glazing !!!

The first set ended up with superglue on the plastic windows and ruined it. The second attempt ended up with 'Bloom' on the glass, so was torn out and I went to bed.

As you can see from the pictures, I have made a more secure fixing for the frames and will be sliding the 'glass' down slots. It's all been sprayed three times so I hope this is the end of two days work. ok2

Regarding my upgrade of the battery system, I have ripped out the old battery compartment and build a bigger, wider version. I plan to run 4 off, Six Volt types at 7 amp/hour each, in series and parallel to give me 12 volts at 14 amp/hours. I calculate this should provide top speed running for half an hour. 8) There is also the extra six volt battery for the bow thruster and lights.

I have fitted a 15 watt amplifier in readiness for some sound. Probably the engines or perhaps some disco music with the odd police siren noise. {-)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 24, 2010, 08:12:48 pm: Two pictures got left behind when Dicky's message came in. But Sir, she likes to carry the coal in and who am I to spoil her exercise routine. 8)

Yes it will be scratch built. I'd post pictures, but it's not boat related. %)

ken

ps .......... you can just see the start of the fitting of the 1600 bolt heads.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Peter Fitness on May 24, 2010, 11:52:09 pm: Ken, maybe you already are aware of this, but I have found aeromodeller's canopy glue to be very useful for fixing glazing. It doesn't fog or bloom like super glue, and dries clear. I believe it's a type of PVA.

Peter.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 25, 2010, 09:43:18 pm: Thank you for that, Peter. I shall use it along the base line, as I have grooves ready for the glass (DVD covers cut to shape).

Today I spent 11 hours at the bench. The glazing has been cut and slid into the runners with not a mark on them... Hooray.

I have wired up the sound system, consisting of an 18 Watt amplifier and matching speaker, which is built into the cabin floor. As it points upwards into the cabin, there is a ready built resonance chamber in the hull. The radio sounds rather good through it at the moment.

I have fitted the two spotlights to the flying bridge and these will be wired to the lighting system soon.

The battery boxes were fitted and new wiring laid for the 5 batteries. It was then powered up and voltages and current were taken. I now calculate she will run for 7 hours without stopping. (probably be out sight by then :} )

As most of the "stuff" is fitted now, I thought I'd get the bathroom scales and measure the total weight. She now weighs 61 pounds fully loaded ( 30 killos?) O0 :o %)

Sea trials soon !!!!

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: FullLeatherJacket on May 25, 2010, 11:02:05 pm: Ken
Solder some leads to the speaker terminals and make sure you have a 12 volt battery with 3A connecting leads somewhere in there.
"You shall have noises, Cinders......................."
FLJ
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Peter Fitness on May 25, 2010, 11:46:44 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on May 25, 2010, 09:43:18 pm
She now weighs 61 pounds fully loaded ( 30 killos?) O0 :o %)

I hope you've been going to the gymnasium {-)

Peter.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 26, 2010, 10:53:02 am: Quote from: FullLeatherJacket on May 25, 2010, 11:02:05 pm
Ken
Solder some leads to the speaker terminals and make sure you have a 12 volt battery with 3A connecting leads somewhere in there.
"You shall have noises, Cinders......................."
FLJ

All ready for the Noisy thing. Might be able to hear it over the noise of the Fairground behind us. %)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 26, 2010, 10:55:04 am: Quote from: Peter Fitness on May 25, 2010, 11:46:44 pm
I hope you've been going to the gymnasium {-)

Peter.

I've got an even better plan.

I'm bringing a "Young Man" by the name of Dan. :D

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: FullLeatherJacket on May 26, 2010, 11:16:33 am: It's all programmed and I've even cut the holes in the case for the wires. Hope your amp is OK for it - requirements are input 1v peak; 700mV RMS; >10K impedance.
FLJ
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 26, 2010, 11:30:45 am: Haven't any switcher methods designed at the moment, but working on it. :-))

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: dan on May 26, 2010, 03:06:58 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on May 26, 2010, 10:55:04 am
I've got an even better plan.

I'm bringing a "Young Man" by the name of Dan. :D

ken

So thats why you offered to take me, thanks Ken {-)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Peewee on May 26, 2010, 04:47:31 pm: Everyone has to have a purpose in life Dan {-) {-)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 26, 2010, 08:57:57 pm: Great news. Today I made a launching trolley.

I have converted my old sack truck into a wider base which will hold the stand and boat. The theory is to push it down the slipway until the boat floats off.

What could possibly go wrong !! :}

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: dan on May 26, 2010, 08:59:24 pm: any pictures Ken? :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 26, 2010, 09:18:51 pm: Not at the moment Dan, as the paint is still wet. ok2

Had a bit of fun with the wiring. I started to connect the radar and pulled the wire up through the tubes from below and it snapped inside. I had to remove the whole assembly to re-thread a new wire. Still, it's done now and I have a revolving radar unit. Lovely little motor courtesy of Marks model bits.

I've also put in the port & starboard lights. (it is Red on the left, isn't it?)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: dan on May 26, 2010, 09:20:39 pm: yea im pretty sure thats the right colour for the left.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: CJ1 on May 26, 2010, 09:40:57 pm: Ken,
Remember the old Naval saying,
"There's no Red Port wine Left!"
Chris
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 26, 2010, 09:48:28 pm: Thanks guys.

It's just that when things go wrong, they do it in a big way. :-) so I thought I'd better check.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 27, 2010, 08:55:30 pm: Today I wired up the lighting. There are five cabin lights with two spotlights on top. Also wired in are the side lights. The radar is wired to it's own 1,5 battery and only takes 0.02 amps so a little battery will suffice.

I then got on with bolt heads. I have cut out two thousand from a 3mm Hex plastic bar (several of them actually!) and started sticking them on backing tape, ready for spraying grey.

Might get a few stuck on for the annual outing on Saturday. We haven't had any sea trials yet and there is no time left, so it will have to be at Wicksteed. I hope she stays afloat long enough, 8)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on May 27, 2010, 09:09:42 pm: Dont forget Ken, photos of the maiden ~~sinking~~ voyage will be required, video would be even better. :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on May 27, 2010, 09:33:28 pm: I've spotted tonight's deliberate mistake, port should be red and starboard green..............!

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on May 27, 2010, 09:39:29 pm: Forgot to mention it Ken but why don't you paint your bolt heads with silver metallic paint for more realism? Your boat would really stand out with shiney bolt heads as on the real one.

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 28, 2010, 09:54:50 am: Quote from: DickyD on May 27, 2010, 09:09:42 pm
Dont forget Ken, photos of the maiden ~~sinking~~ voyage will be required, video would be even better. :-))

You can count on it. The First Aid team are on stand by. :}

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 28, 2010, 09:59:19 am: Quote from: Brian Roberts on May 27, 2010, 09:33:28 pm
I've spotted tonight's deliberate mistake, port should be red and starboard green..............!

Brian

Whoops

That's because I had the cabin upside down on the bench, I'll bet. Thank you for that. I don't want to look as if I've learnt nothing. :-))

yes, Silver would look nicer.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 30, 2010, 12:43:49 pm: Launch Day

Just returned from the Mayhem Annual get together where she was finally launched. I'm please to report that she didn't sink but we didn't secure the propshaft tight enough. The coupling came adrift from the motor and will now be secured with 'Loc tight' next time. %)

Due to her tremendous weight we couldn't get up on the plane, but she did look graceful cruising around. I've made a short film of the event (also posted in the mayhem get together section)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X0o0rrE8P0

Now back home and fitting the ACTion sound machine and thousands of other little jobs.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: fatcat123 on May 30, 2010, 02:19:27 pm: Hi Ken,

That looks pretty damn good! Well done on a successful launch!

I really wanted to go to the show this weekend but would of meant a 360mile round trip :(

Hopefully i can make it next year.

Dan
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 30, 2010, 02:23:54 pm: Thanks Dan.

Me and another Dan travelled 399 miles loaded up to the gunwhales with boats and chairs. I don't blame you as it does take it's toll. ;)

No modelling today, just surfing away.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on May 30, 2010, 02:39:46 pm: Very nice Ken, right way up too, excellent :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 30, 2010, 02:57:32 pm: Thank you Richard. It was great fun. I'm glad it didn't go too fast ..... it might have killed someone. :o Scheesh it's a heavy un!!

I shall just be working on making her a pretty girl with 'ALL' the attachments and gimmicks and then start thinking about the next boat. Might go Yachting %)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Coxy on May 30, 2010, 07:43:28 pm: Hi Ken,

I spoke to you Saturday Lunchtime as i was walking to car & you showed me the lifeboat in boot of your car.......... Fantastic!

Keep up the great work O0

Great pictures and video :-))

Geoff
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Martin (Admin) on May 30, 2010, 07:52:56 pm: Great to see you yesterday Ken! :-))

I've been avidly following your build, for some unfathomable reason, I had just got it into my head that your Severn was about 18" long?!?!?!? :o

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=21728.0;attach=82776;image)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Peter Fitness on May 30, 2010, 11:20:41 pm: It looks great on the water Ken, you must be very happy. It makes all the hard work worthwhile. :-))

I hope I can make half as good a job of my (much) smaller one when I eventually start it. I have to finish my patrol boat first.

Peter.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: debssnal on May 30, 2010, 11:48:22 pm: Hi Ken,
it was nice to of met you.Its good to put a face to the name.10 out of 10 for your severn it looks good.
kind regards
Alan and Debbie
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 31, 2010, 07:27:02 pm: Hi Geoff. It was nice to meet up with you. Thanks for the compliments.

Hi Martin. yes, she is rather on the large side eh!! Had the best time in months after slaving over a hot saw. Thank you for putting on the show. It was the best one yet. ooh, and thank your lovely lady for the excellent coffee's and cake, please.

Hi Peter. Yes, I'm a happy chappie. Now if I could slim her down a bit, I might get her up on the plane. %)

Hi Alan. Thank you very much for the score. It was nice to meet you as well.

Thank you to everyone. It makes it all worthwhile. :-))

Been busy making the Movie for "You tube". Can't send it yet as she's not quite finished.

Also been busy fitting the "Noisy thing" from that lovely man at ACTion. Scheesh!! you should hear the sound generator running in the shed. The walls were reverberating and the good lady came running out thinking one of my machines was wearing out. :} Told me to cut the volume as it was a quiet neighbourhood. O0 I do have a volume control on it and was just checking the power. ( thanks Dave for the extra voices in the memory. Well done to you and Flying wombat.) 8)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Corposant on June 01, 2010, 05:17:29 pm: Hi Ken,

It was great to meet you on Saturday and witness the launch of your "Severn". Congratulations on the fruits of all your hard work, she looks beautiful on the water (enjoyed Scot Joplin too!).

Mike
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 02, 2010, 11:20:13 am: Thank you Mike. I enjoyed my trip up. Best show of the year. :-))

I've been on the Web looking for 'Sounds' in WAV format. There's millions. I've selected an Ice cream van jingle just for a laugh. {-)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: fatcat123 on June 02, 2010, 04:16:49 pm: Ken,

I think ACTion have the turbo cat sound set..

If you find a sound on the net your looking for, say on youtube, let me know and i'll record thavt for you if you wish

Dan
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 03, 2010, 10:46:03 pm: Hi Dan

Yes, Dave has pre programmed the Severn's engine sounds and there are other blank slots for extra sounds like horns and things that can be added.

On the Web I've found various sites that let you listen to their sample sounds but do not provide a downloadable copy, so I have bought my recording studio into play and made my own WAV files, hence the ice cream vendor. {-)

The more serious sounds of police sirens are easy as I've only to wait outside the gate with a microphone. 8)

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: fatcat123 on June 04, 2010, 08:18:45 am: Hi Ken,

sounds good!

I'm trying to get my hands on a HQ condensor microphone as i intend to record the Whitby Trent lifeboat and as a special request from ACTion, the our lass II trawler.

Dan
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2010, 07:42:47 pm: Have programmed all my required sounds into the boat and going well. Time to knuckle down to the bolt fixing.

I have made the imitation bolt heads from 3mm hex plastic rod. This was cut into 2mm widths and laid onto sticky tape ready for spraying silver. Very time consuming and tedious but worth it in the end. It's possible to get over 100 from each hex rod, but some still fly away, never to be seen again.

These were then individually glued into place all around the boat, which took the best of a week. O0

Here's a picture of where we are at. She is now almost finished (are they ever ?)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2010, 07:47:08 pm: Crew time

Being 'mean' to the "N'th" degree, I have decided to make my own scratch built crew members.

First I started with some Starship enterprise characters. (Thanks Bosun for pointing out these, as they were the correct size)

I shall relate the story bit by bit, as a picture tells a thousand words.

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: fatcat123 on June 20, 2010, 07:49:31 pm: Tell you what Ken

That looks the business!

Well done, I hope to see some hi res pictures when shes 100% finished.

Dan

P.S, what you building next?
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2010, 07:54:09 pm: These were then coated in 'Milliput' which moulded beautifully and was a joy to work with.

I then started painting them with 'Plastocote' yellow, which was a very quick drying paint indeed. As it turned out, it dried too fast. The paint was pulling even as I was still applying it. :(( It was also impossible to get a straight fine edge as the stuff was very thick.

This, of course ruined the paint jobs, as can be seen below.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2010, 07:58:39 pm: Thank you Fatcat. Much appreciated. She is nearly finished, so I am thing about getting on with my Aircraft carrier. Should make a nice change. Mind you, there's a coal house to build first. :}

on with the paint story ............

The whole lot was then designated to the paint stripper bin and cleaned of all paint.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2010, 08:10:16 pm: This took longer than expected as, that Plasticote stuff didn't want to come off. Orrible paint. I shall never buy another tin as long live.

Hours later I had the little men back to Milliput stage and spent the afternoon in the deck chair sanding them nice and smooth. I decided to go the 'spray can route' and sprayed them with my favourite paint, the trusty red oxide. (unfortunately it's darker than yellow !!!)

The yellow was sprayed on and does not show up very well even after the whole tin was used up.

I decided to make the men's life belts out of hollow electrical cable as these were difficult to paint satisfactorily, so the milliput version was cut off.

It was at this point I have retired to have beer. So far, the men have cost me £20, so another tin of paint should see it completed. %) %) %) %) I'll let you know what happens next.

Ken

I've just noticed they do look a bit desperate and trying to get away. :embarrassed:
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on June 20, 2010, 08:25:00 pm: Hi Ken I painted mine with Tamiya Acrylics on white primer.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2010, 08:30:00 pm: That is nice, Dicky. They look the bee's knee's. I'm hopeless with a brush, as you can see.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on June 20, 2010, 08:46:04 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on June 20, 2010, 08:30:00 pm
That is nice, Dicky. They look the bee's knee's. I'm hopeless with a brush, as you can see.

Ken

Perhaps you should do larger scale kits Ken {-)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: dan on June 20, 2010, 09:16:01 pm: aircraft carrier ken? :o
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 20, 2010, 09:50:34 pm: Hi Dan.

Yes it's the Airfix version I'm afraid. Nothing too grand this time. Should be fun. :D

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Brian Roberts on June 20, 2010, 10:34:34 pm: Hi Ken

I've just comleted an Airfix Severn for one of my Granddaughter's and I'd just like to mention a few words of caution.

Because a lot of the parts were tiny in the extreme they had to be painted before assembly, and I used Humbrol paints as recommended.

But beware of your choice of adhesive! You'll need one that bonds plastic to plastic and you'll find that these types of adhesive are not compatible with Humbrol paints.........the dreaded orange peel effect! It's OK when joining the bigger bits together before painting, but the problem arises when you come to stick the ready painted bits on. If you have too much glue on the tiny bits it runs and causes the dreaded effect.

Don't know what to recommend as I wasn't happy with my finished result so I suggest you experiment with some scrap material before you start.

There were also a few decals missing from the kit which I wasn't too happy about.

Regards

Brian
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: fatcat123 on June 21, 2010, 10:30:48 am: I'd say use superglue but it mists as you well know. For modelling, i always use loctite ultra gel, sets really quick, doesnt run and is generally pretty tough. Small amounts though might be ok for the small parts. I know what you mean regarding the fiddlyness of the kit, i built one when they first came out. Needless to say it went straight in the bin.

Dan
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 21, 2010, 09:00:41 pm: Quote from: Brian Roberts on June 20, 2010, 10:34:34 pm
Hi Ken

But beware of your choice of adhesive! You'll need one that bonds plastic to plastic and you'll find that these types of adhesive are not compatible with Humbrol paints.........the dreaded orange peel effect!

Regards

Brian

Hi Brian

Thanks for the tips. I shall have a go, using this information

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 21, 2010, 09:02:26 pm: Quote from: fatcat123 on June 21, 2010, 10:30:48 am
I'd say use superglue but it mists as you well know. For modelling, i always use loctite ultra gel, sets really quick, doesn't run and is generally pretty tough.
Dan

Hi Dan

Oh yes, I think super glue is out, on this type. I'll let you know how I get on.

Cheers

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 21, 2010, 09:11:07 pm: Yellow spray paint on hand, I set too on the little men. I must say it came out rather well today and they dried lovely in the heat of the days we're getting lately. I managed three coats and it was dry by tea time.

After tea came the trimmings and fine stuff. A little touch up here and there and this is the final result below. I show my hand in the picture to give you an idea of the scale.

I think she is finished. %) (unless you know different !! :embarrassed: ) thank you for following.

On with the next boat ........................................................... 8)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: dan on June 21, 2010, 09:41:07 pm: they look great Ken, you should be proud :-)) :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 21, 2010, 09:46:13 pm: Thanks Dan. It was like being in Play school. My good lady advised me to wear a 'Piny' as I'm a messy worker. %)

Don't look at the pictures too close. :embarrassed:

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: fatcat123 on June 21, 2010, 10:32:41 pm: Its a good attempt ken, great infact. better than i could do. Interesting use of the tubing for the lifejacket, looks pretty good to be fair.

theres a few of these types of things on the market, george turner, speedline etc but i find they are expensive for what they are.

Good job anyway,

Dan
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 22, 2010, 11:12:40 pm: Thank you Dan (2). :}

They finally cost me £5.50 each, but a lot of labour time which I enjoyed.

Spent the day making a strong enough shelf for her. She's got a wall of her own, you know. %)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: jenno on June 23, 2010, 12:33:10 am: Hi Ken,
Very nice job you've done there,you'll have to bring her up to Bryn Bach on our open day in september.

Jenno.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 23, 2010, 08:33:50 pm: Thanks Jenno, I'll be there :-))

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on June 24, 2010, 10:37:24 am: Hi Ken, have you done "R.N.L.I Severn scratch build the Video" yet ?

Still waiting to see your masterpiece going flat out on the wet stuff, with noise. :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on June 24, 2010, 07:20:46 pm: Hiya Dicky. Yes the film is started and I add to it every time I finish a section.

I shall start sea trials in anger when I've made a stronger trolley %) I'm still on the look out for the wheels. I've had to clear the garage to make a suitable position for storage as she's 3 foot high by 6 foot long, so there's a wall space gone. 8).

Started on the Illustrious today as a relaxation project but it's not as easy as it looks. Blog to follow when I get the time.

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 04, 2011, 12:33:17 pm: I have made a film of the build and it's now up and running on 'You Tube'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KcNP1Ot8KA

Enjoy

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Peter Fitness on January 04, 2011, 11:16:47 pm: Great stuff, Ken, that will be extremely helpful when I start mine :-)) I'm not sure when that will be, though, as it looks like we will be moving house some time in the not too distant future, and I will have some renovations to do before we move in. Modelling will have to take a back seat until we are settled in the new house :((

Peter.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on January 05, 2011, 01:35:14 pm: Cheers Peter. Best of luck with the move. Don't loose the drawings on the way. ;)

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Peter Fitness on January 05, 2011, 11:38:58 pm: Thanks, Ken, I'm not looking forward to it. Don't worry, though, the drawings will be well cared for O0

Peter.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on August 07, 2011, 06:05:15 pm: Rebuild Time

The weight of the boat has been worrying me for some time (68 pounds !!!). She is difficult to launch so I have decided to SLIM her down a bit.

I have removed all the innards and sanded all the excess wood that I can see. The weight of the hull section is now down to 30 pounds empty. I'll see how she performs before thinking about the upper decks.

I went inside and walked around taking pictures. {-) and she is massive. rather like an empty hanger waiting for a Pop concert. I have to redesign everything as I go along, but the motors are now fitted on slim down frames. (good start).
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on August 07, 2011, 06:11:08 pm: I had to cut the back end of the deck to be able to access the rear section, so I'm hoping I can repair it to match.

Under this section was a load of spare wood previously used to house various parts which were never fitted. This was now surplus and adding to the weight, so out it came. My poor old Dremmel was Red hot to the touch !!!

ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Peter Fitness on August 08, 2011, 07:44:53 am: Blimey, Ken, you could put a small dog in that hull O0 {-)

Peter.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on August 08, 2011, 10:15:16 am: He was behind me ---- you can see his shadow on the hull ----- {-) {-) {-)

I shall be smoothing the frames edges today. Don't want people picking holes with my carpentry :}

Ken

ps --- Peter, I like your new picture. very sheikh. Now get your scruffy's on and start on that next boat.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Peter Fitness on August 09, 2011, 12:06:02 am: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on August 08, 2011, 10:15:16 am
ps --- Peter, I like your new picture. very sheikh. Now get your scruffy's on and start on that next boat.

It was taken at our daughter's wedding, hence the glad rags :-) Funny thing is it doesn't show up on my computer, the old one is still there {:-{

Peter.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on August 09, 2011, 11:07:27 am: It may still be locked in your computer cache. try clearing it by pressing 'control' & 'F5'

(I read that somewhere %) )

Ken
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Peter Fitness on August 10, 2011, 12:18:14 am: Thanks, Ken. I tried that but no change, still the same old photo...which is probably not surprising, as I'm still the same old bloke {-) {-)

Peter.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: derekwarner on August 10, 2011, 05:35:09 am: No Peter - for approx 24 hours..... :embarrassed: even in your older posts you updated to the new grey suit & tie with the distinguished look of a member of Parliament %% {-) ...but today you revert to the jungle greens again............Derek
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Netleyned on August 10, 2011, 07:48:28 am: I pressed the required keys and Hey Presto your avatar changed to Your smart attire.

Still the same today

Ned
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: derekwarner on August 10, 2011, 09:52:07 am: No No No ....clearly Mayhem members >:-o :D ....this is how our OZ moderator Peter.......appears this evening.........Derek :-))

opps ...sorry about the image resolution >>:-( :embarrassed:
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Martin (Admin) on August 10, 2011, 07:18:45 pm: Peter's photo now fixed! :-))
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: DickyD on August 10, 2011, 07:24:51 pm: Quote
Peter's photo now fixed! Thumbs up

If that is fixed, how bad was it before ? (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/taz.gif)
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Peter Fitness on August 11, 2011, 01:59:40 am: Quote from: DickyD on August 10, 2011, 07:24:51 pm
If that is fixed, how bad was it before ?

Thanks, Richard, you're a real friend {-)

BTW, the avatar has now changed on my PC, thanks to computer whiz, Martin :-))

Peter.
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: brianB6 on August 11, 2011, 07:51:02 am: Would you buy a used car from him? %%
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: jimmy2310 on August 11, 2011, 08:03:54 am: Last time I saw somebody dressed like that they were called 'the accused' {-) {-)

Jimmy
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on August 11, 2011, 08:05:59 am: remove
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on August 11, 2011, 08:07:36 am: Quote from: jimmy2310 on August 11, 2011, 08:03:54 am
Last time I saw somebody dressed like that they were called 'the accused' {-) {-)

Jimmy

Was his name Barton .? O0

Peter <*<
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: jimmy2310 on August 11, 2011, 08:30:14 am: Dick or Joey? :}

Jimmy
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Antipodes on August 10, 2012, 10:32:19 am: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on February 12, 2010, 11:15:38 am

Hi Perkasaman

Yes indeed it's a great machine. Ensure you get the widest blade you can afford to prevent 'flexing'.

I have managed to cut 6 foot length of 6" by 1" timber to a width of 1mm planks, which proved to be too thin anyway. I settled on 2 to 3 mm in the end. I have two blades of different teeth per inch and found the 10 tooth one best for accurate work. I use the 6 tooth per inch for ripping larger wood, and so far have managed to slice a piece of 3X3 inch carefully to a width of 2mm. (just experimenting)

It does need special guides clamped in place as long material like this will 'wander' if you sneeze. :D I had rests fixed each side of the blade to support the wood and keep it true.

One thing to note is keep away from Knots in the wood. Planks cut from these tend to snap when handled afterwards. :embarrassed:

As to plywood, it's like cutting cheese. You can actually cut a 2 inch circle, it's so sharp and dusty, so goggles are a must.

Ken

Ken,

How much timber do you lose in wastage from the cutting in say the 3x3?

Cheers

B
Title: Re: R.N.L.I Severn scratch build
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on August 10, 2012, 11:22:50 am: Me, waste timber !!!!! {-) {-) {-)

Using my lovely bandsaw for large production runs does create a LOT of saw dust so be careful out there. I assume you are interested in how many pieces of a certain cut one can get from a plank of wood.

This is rather like 'how long is a piece of string'. When cutting 3mm wide it would be safe to say you will get proportionally more wastage. You have to account for not only the width of the blade but add in the teeth and friction removing the material as well. Also, do NOT use a sideways force as this will wear one side of the blade away. Been there. Done that. Just let the teeth do their job and gently push the timber through the guides.

Hope this helps

ken