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Title: beale park???
Post by: ray123 on January 21, 2010, 10:11:17 pm
dos any one know if there is a show on at beale park this year???
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Post by: Colin Bishop on January 21, 2010, 11:23:39 pm
No events listed on their website but it's early days yet. But the Autumn one fell totally flat.

Colin
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Post by: ray123 on January 22, 2010, 07:18:32 am
thanks  colin   i dont get the model mags  ''this is where i normaly see a advert for it''
regards ray
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Post by: lifeboatpaul on February 08, 2010, 02:58:16 pm
If Its still going will will be there for one day.

OK there are less traders each time , but it still nice to go someware after the long winter and meet all the usual suspects , sail a boat or two and have a chat. :-))
Paul
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Post by: MCAT on February 08, 2010, 03:11:21 pm
had a look on the web site only this so far.  lets hope it goes ahead this year


http://www.bealeparkboatshow.co.uk/
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Post by: Chair@MTMBC on February 28, 2010, 12:33:58 pm
Yes, Beale Park is planning a model boat show on 1-2 May 2010. No further details as yet, especially regarding trader attendance.

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Post by: Inkmark on February 28, 2010, 12:39:25 pm
Guys
MMI magazine lists 'A festival of model boating' for 1/2 May.
Less than a festival last time.
Mark
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Post by: FullLeatherJacket on February 28, 2010, 12:42:42 pm
We had a begging phone call from the bloke about a month ago, offering us a free trade stand for some show or other. I told him we weren't interested - even at that price.
FLJ
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Post by: Marks Model Bits on February 28, 2010, 12:51:44 pm
You were lucky Dave, Beale Park don't even bother to reply to numerous messages I leave on their answerphone >>:-( >>:-(

Mark.
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Post by: wideawake on February 28, 2010, 03:31:29 pm
I was there a couple of days ago and I gathered that a show was planned.

Martin may like to spilit what follows off into a separate thread but i thought I'd begin here so that it gets noticed!     The reason that I was at Beale Park was that the Inland waterways Association is holding the 2010 National Festival there over the August Bank Holiday.   The festival has been there twice before but this time they want to make better use of the outer lake.   To that end I'm the Lake-based Attractions Manager for the show.     I'm looking at a mix of model boat displays and full size items.   On the model boat front I have the Portsmouth team and the MHA lined up for a day each but still need a headline model boat attraction for the Monday.   I've been wondering about the man-carrying warships that I believe are around.   Does anyone have a contact if they do please?   Any other ideas welcome.    I'd been hoping that the Sedgemoor Seajets would be availbale but I understand that they're having a year off.

Any other ideas for spectacular crowd pleasing displays welcomed!    One other thought, does anyone have a contact with the Lifeboat model people who put on the display at the Fosse.

Cheers

Guy
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Post by: Shipmate60 on February 28, 2010, 05:47:49 pm
The manned warships are operated by the Portsmouth Display Team.

Bob
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Post by: Arrow5 on February 28, 2010, 06:20:09 pm
 

Bob  You might want to check that. One of the manned ships was/is for sale by the antique dealer in Portsmouth Naval Dockyard.  The other manned models that are a regular at Beale Park full-sized boat shows are owned and operated by Roger Wilkinson of Kittywake Boats.  I own the 31ft HMS Invincible that has been to Beale Park some years ago.  There is another battleship in south Wales. I have contacts for them if you want , PM me.
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Post by: Shipmate60 on February 28, 2010, 06:23:22 pm
Up until last year they certainly had and operated at least 2.
I know some of them quite well.
I should be seeing some on Monday so will enquire.

Bob
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Post by: wideawake on February 28, 2010, 09:00:47 pm


Bob  You might want to check that. One of the manned ships was/is for sale by the antique dealer in Portsmouth Naval Dockyard.  The other manned models that are a regular at Beale Park full-sized boat shows are owned and operated by Roger Wilkinson of Kittywake Boats.  I own the 31ft HMS Invincible that has been to Beale Park some years ago.  There is another battleship in south Wales. I have contacts for them if you want , PM me.


Thanks for that.   I'd appreciate contact details very much.   PM on the way.

Cheers

Guy
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Post by: wideawake on February 28, 2010, 09:02:02 pm
Up until last year they certainly had and operated at least 2.
I know some of them quite well.
I should be seeing some on Monday so will enquire.

Bob

Thank you Bob.  Much apppreciated. 

Cheers

Guy
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Post by: 17-21 on March 02, 2010, 06:23:50 pm
if the shows on then we will be there with some lifeboats

Phil.
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Post by: Chair@MTMBC on March 03, 2010, 06:02:49 pm
Please see latest post in Club Events Forum.
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Post by: Shipmate60 on March 03, 2010, 06:32:50 pm
Guy,
Sorry for not confirming yet, my wife is not well so havent been down there.

Bob
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Post by: wideawake on March 03, 2010, 07:03:41 pm
Guy,
Sorry for not confirming yet, my wife is not well so havent been down there.

Bob

No problem Bob.  I trust your wife feels better soon.

Guy
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Post by: lifeboatpaul on March 04, 2010, 02:00:32 pm
if the shows on then we will be there with some lifeboats

Phil.
Count me in.
Paul   :-))
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Post by: Shipmate60 on March 04, 2010, 03:51:39 pm
Guy,
Just off the phone and Portsmouth Display Team still operate 2 of the manned warships.

Bob
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Post by: wideawake on March 04, 2010, 06:11:36 pm
Guy,
Just off the phone and Portsmouth Display Team still operate 2 of the manned warships.

Bob

Thanks for  that bob

Cheers

Guy
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Post by: HUNTER on March 08, 2010, 12:41:37 pm
Hi Everybody,
Its me - the old fart on the Hunter Systems stand. Now what's all this cr..p coming from the mouths of so called manufacturers/Traders who were more than pleased to be going to the Beale show when times were good and when they were creaming a damned good living from the exhibitors pockets. Also, the exhibitors enjoyed the shows - How many people remember Richard Howard putting his hand in his own pocket and putting on a damned good fireworks display worthy of the New Year celebrations!!

Ok, the show has gone down hill in the last few years and we know why. Myself, Ron Dean and some of the major manufactures have spent a long time chatting to Richard Howard on ways to bring the show back to health and one of the ways is to promote - improve and put some faith back into doing it. Not winge because it has taken a beating.

Myself and Ron and several other reputable Manufacturers who have been in business for many years and have seen many shows go to the wall even when there was no recession. Shows go down mainly due to the show going out of balance. A show requires several key elements - A good Organiser - Trade - Exhibitors - public. If one or more of the elements drop down then the apple cart is tipped. This has happened to many good shows and Beale is heading that way.
Unless of course the Trade attend - the exhibitors attend followed by the public. Mix them all up and you if you are lucky - you have a good show!
Hands up all who enjoyed the Beale show of old. Hands up all who have said "that was a cracking show and I will go again" Hands up all who said "That was a good show, I made a lot of money and will be back next year"
Yes, I know Richard is out on a limb this year but it takes all of the elements to make the show, so please don't dismiss it and become one of those elements who only think of themselves and winge when the going gets tough. Believe me, life is too short.
Maybe, we will see each other at Child Beale. REMEMBER A really good venue plus Free Camping and yes - a free stand to the trade this year. So no winging ok? To all of the trade - If you are not prepared to put something in - don't winge about it - don't bother to go - you are not needed or wanted.
Nuff said, I am going to get my mug of cocoa!
Sermon over!
Graham Sheppard (Past Chairman of the MMMA)
Late News. I have heard on the grapevine that the Beale Centre will be available to the trade - and not outside as was spoken about before.
 
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Post by: Macsmouldings on March 08, 2010, 01:10:14 pm
Hi Graham, Indeed , when Richard phoned me last week with my invertation he did say the traders would be inside the Beale centre.  My names down, look forward to seeing you all there.

Martin.
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Post by: snowwolflair on March 08, 2010, 01:26:50 pm
Beal Park was and will be a great show.  We will be there with as many members I can persuade to go and with as many boats as we can muster.

David Calderwood
Chairman
Black Park Model Boat Club
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Post by: Del-boy1958 on March 08, 2010, 01:40:51 pm
Hi Guys
Great words from Graham from Hunters BUT as a punter I have been every year since
about 1993 and I go to show for the traders. No traders - No point , I can float a boat on my local pond and save the journey.

The other thing is I still cant see a date for this show on this thread.
 
I am getting booked up so I may miss this, The last spring show was very poor on the trade side.

I used to love this show , It was the first one to get booked with the October show.

Derek
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Post by: snowwolflair on March 08, 2010, 01:46:49 pm
Somebody correct me if I am wrong, I have the 1st and 2nd May
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Post by: Colin Bishop on March 08, 2010, 01:50:22 pm
It's advertised on the Beale Park website as usual and implies that traders will be present. maybe some of those who post on here could indicate if they are attending.

http://www.bealepark.co.uk/events_item.php?id=127

Colin
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Post by: MCAT on March 08, 2010, 02:24:49 pm
Have alook under  club events   Mid Thames  Model Boat club
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Post by: HUNTER on March 08, 2010, 06:15:09 pm
Its the old Fart again!
Thanks guys.
As far as I am aware - Traders going are - Hunter Systems (that's me sorted) - Mastman ( New Trader to the show) - Macs Mouldings - SHG - Deans Marine - with a lot more to follow.
If I haven't included you - SHOUT. You know what my memory is like.
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Post by: cos918 on March 08, 2010, 07:24:51 pm
Hi Everybody,
Its me - the old fart on the Hunter Systems stand. Now what's all this cr..p coming from the mouths of so called manufacturers/Traders who were more than pleased to be going to the Beale show when times were good and when they were creaming a damned good living from the exhibitors pockets. Also, the exhibitors enjoyed the shows - How many people remember Richard Howard putting his hand in his own pocket and putting on a damned good fireworks display worthy of the New Year celebrations!!

Ok, the show has gone down hill in the last few years and we know why. Myself, Ron Dean and some of the major manufactures have spent a long time chatting to Richard Howard on ways to bring the show back to health and one of the ways is to promote - improve and put some faith back into doing it. Not winge because it has taken a beating.

Myself and Ron and several other reputable Manufacturers who have been in business for many years and have seen many shows go to the wall even when there was no recession. Shows go down mainly due to the show going out of balance. A show requires several key elements - A good Organiser - Trade - Exhibitors - public. If one or more of the elements drop down then the apple cart is tipped. This has happened to many good shows and Beale is heading that way.
Unless of course the Trade attend - the exhibitors attend followed by the public. Mix them all up and you if you are lucky - you have a good show!
Hands up all who enjoyed the Beale show of old. Hands up all who have said "that was a cracking show and I will go again" Hands up all who said "That was a good show, I made a lot of money and will be back next year"
Yes, I know Richard is out on a limb this year but it takes all of the elements to make the show, so please don't dismiss it and become one of those elements who only think of themselves and winge when the going gets tough. Believe me, life is too short.
Maybe, we will see each other at Child Beale. REMEMBER A really good venue plus Free Camping and yes - a free stand to the trade this year. So no winging ok? To all of the trade - If you are not prepared to put something in - don't winge about it - don't bother to go - you are not needed or wanted.
Nuff said, I am going to get my mug of cocoa!
Sermon over!
Graham Sheppard (Past Chairman of the MMMA)
Late News. I have heard on the grapevine that the Beale Centre will be available to the trade - and not outside as was spoken about before.
 

Ok Fair point.
The reason beale show went down hill was down to beale park.I do remember the good shows in the early 1990's . The reason people so called winged is they did not like what the show has come. Beale refused to listen. It took last year bad bad show to make them wake up. OK that's in the past. So what are they going to do for people who show there model. Pay full entry £8.50 or do as they did in the past . A FREE ticket to each modeler regardless if they were in a club or not if they brought a boat to show.I await the answer from beale park. Or will it be like in the past they come on here to announce there show and not answer any question? It is only beale park who can fix this show.

John
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Post by: lifeboatpaul on March 08, 2010, 10:36:04 pm
 :-))
Well said Graham !
Nice to see someone sticking up for the show.
 As I said at the beginning of this thread as long as theres some fellow model boaters at the show ill be there sailing some boats, and Delboy is always "burning a hole in his pocket" to spend some money on new realease kits etc.
Paul
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Post by: Shipmate60 on March 09, 2010, 10:11:19 am
I have just spoken to Graham (Hunter Systems) about the Beale Park Model Boat Show.
For the first time in a few years I am optimistic that this show can be resurrected to almost its former glory.
There is still a lot of goodwill amongst the traders for this venue and all it will need is us to attend.
I am asking you to put aside your former negative feelings and give it one last chance.
If t is successful we will have another large Model Boat venue, if it fails we will lose it completely.

As I have said I am optimistic so there is hope for this Show.

From Graham, he is willing to act as Trader "liaison" for any traders who want to attend but are having any problems booking in.

So come on Mayhemmers spread the word and attend this one to show that there is still interest in another Southern venue.

Bob
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Post by: Marks Model Bits on March 09, 2010, 10:14:44 am
Hi  Just Spoken to Richard.

MMB (marks model bits)  will be there


Mark.
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Post by: Colin Bishop on March 09, 2010, 11:37:32 am
No apparent discount for modellers though. Normal admission prices apply (£8.50 or £7.00 for Seniors) unless you can tap into one of the free tickets allocated to participating clubs presumably. No published info about bringing your own boat that I have seen so far although there is time yet.

Colin
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Post by: Shipmate60 on March 09, 2010, 11:58:21 am
Colin,
That is being discussed now.

Bob
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Post by: cos918 on March 09, 2010, 02:39:18 pm
I await to here the out come of that discussion

John
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Post by: HUNTER on March 09, 2010, 08:47:10 pm
Hi Guys,
Its the Old Fart again!!
I have just come off the telephone after  a long conversation with Richard Howard. He is delighted to announce that the Beale Centre is full up with Traders as in the old days some oldies and some newbies. Some big and some less big. But all looking forward to having a good show!
The list contains Deans Marine, Mobile Marine Models, Hunter Systems, Macs Mouldings, SHG, Tony Richardson, Prop Shop, All Components, Dave Brumpstead (with glues etc), Mastman (Resin fittings and Barges etc) and Marks Model Bits. There is still enough room for two or three small stands. Ok, not a lot compared to some other shows but hey - we are trying to put breath back into the old body. There will also be a new food outlet ( the Aussie has gone home). Rumour has it that there could be a second food outlet. (That's me catered for)!

As for free tickets - I have managed to get Richard to give some free passes to club listed people at the gate on the day only. It seems that some people over the last few years have been making a fair bit of money selling free tickets allocated to the clubs out in the car park. This is the main reason why Richard has not been keen giving away free passes. This I can understand! He also pointed out that there are not many shows now were there are free passes.

If we get any more news, I will pass it on.

Right, I am going to put the kettle on, fill my hot water bottle, kick the cats out, make a cocoa and go to bed as it has gone 8 o'clock.

Graham
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Post by: Colin Bishop on March 09, 2010, 10:03:24 pm
Good to know that there is likely to be a fair selection of traders but it seems that the issue of getting boaters to attend has not been grasped or maybe properly understood.

I had also heard that a couple of people had been caught touting free tickets from club allocations outside the front gate although hardly sufficient to threaten the economic viability of the park itself! Giving allocations to specially invited clubs is a poor basis for boosting attendance anyway as it discourages the model boating community at large from attending.

I can't see why one of two methods successfully employed in the past cannot be reinstated:

1. Pre entry by applying for a personal pass from MTMBC in advance which will give free entry for a modeller and boat(s) (plus maybe their partner).

2. A discount on the door for a modeller with boat(s)  (plus maybe their partner)  say £3 or so.

Not rocket science and no risk of flogging off unallocated tickets to the public. Both methods worked OK in the past so what is the problem now?

The more modellers who attend, the greater the public spectacle and be more the traders will benefit.

Colin
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Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 09, 2010, 10:20:28 pm
   and publicize the event a bit.
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Post by: snowwolflair on March 09, 2010, 10:23:47 pm
Keep it simple

Club passes with names written in advance on them by the club secretary or events organiser

if you bring a boat on your own half price on the day.  (Wifes/parners can carry a second boat!)
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Post by: andywright on March 10, 2010, 12:38:22 am
 Its definately the cost of admission spoiled this show in the past, I've heard a loads of people moan about the price, I admit there is a lot to see in the park, but personally I only go for the boats. The last time I went I spent a fortune ( two adults) to get in and only a few  traders were present, luckily I was on holiday in the area and hadn't driven especially for the show.
Andy
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Post by: cos918 on March 10, 2010, 05:43:09 am
There are a lot of people who ARE NOT in an model club. Our model boat are just as good as people who are in clubs. SO why should only some people get in for free. The reason the show went down hill was the dropping numbers of people who were showing there model boats. I remember  in the mid 1990's there were two rows of boat that stretched half way down the north bank of the pond .I would have said at least 150+ boats. £8.50 is lot to show your boat. There are still a lot of shows were people who show there boats were there is FREE entry for them.
One Idea . You phone or email giving your name and address to them. When you turn up at the gate if you have all the necessary ie model boat, ID with your address on it and your name on the list you get in for FREE. This will stop people from selling off tickets they could not use .

John
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Post by: snowwolflair on March 10, 2010, 09:41:41 am
Bit like getting into Liquid on a Saturday night - book ahead for the VIP list, bring a bird and proof you are over 21 :}
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Post by: HUNTER on March 10, 2010, 03:06:33 pm
Hi Guys
Its the Old Fart again..........
I have again spoken to Richard Howard and his Park director and his Show Administrator. >>:-( A lot of hot air, wind and good ideas have been thrown about (sorry, its all that cocoa). The final decision/details will be emailed to me later today when I will pass them onto you.

Graham
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Post by: Jindivik on March 12, 2010, 10:04:06 am
Hi, To follow on from Graham's earlier post I spoke to Richard Howard a couple of weeks ago and the people currently in the Centre are moving out making it available for the traders.
Dave and Marion (D&M Modelling Supplies) will be there with Deluxe Materials range of glues etc., some Model Slipway kits and George Turner's figures and vac. formings.
Dave
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Post by: MCAT on March 12, 2010, 01:33:25 pm
Thanks to all the traders for committing to the show. some of you guys have been there all the time through thick and thin.

I for one most defiantly appreciate it and know it must have been tough at times.

lets hope the show picks up we need it around the area its set in nice not have to travel to far for such a lovely venue
and with the improvemets around the lake what more do you want .

Sunshine - lake- traders   Love it .

Mick
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Post by: HUNTER on March 12, 2010, 01:45:11 pm
Hi Guys
The old fart again,
Spoke to Louise who is the Park Administrator who will be overseeing the show. Apparently Louise and Richard are still discussing terms!
She will email the rules and regs. when set.
Regards to you all.
Graham
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Post by: Dean's Marine on March 12, 2010, 05:08:16 pm
Dear modellers
 As has been stated Deans Marine will be attending the showover the bank holiday weekend on the  1-2 May. As far as I recall we were one of the traders to attend the very first trade show at beale parlk (a long time ago, where did the time go.)
 If I can add my stone in to the calm waters, I am sure if anyone is attending with a boat, over the weekend, and talking and showing our hobby to the public, they should have a free pass, as they are part of the show,?
 Bring a small boat, dump it on a table, (that is if you bother to come as it might rain or be windy,) Have a part day at the show, pick up boat and go home,  and if you do not get your own way, "xxxxx" off the show on the forums, ??
 Try that with any of the other boatt shows in the U.K
 As as been said before, use it or lose it, Richard is on our side, so he is no expert in running a show,  if its wrong, help put it right,  but if you abuse it, you will lose it. 
But this "I am a model boater, I should get in free"??  I drive a car, I do not get in the motor show free, I also own a real boat, it does not get me in to the boat show at Earls court or Southhampton,? 
 We will be releasing 2 new kits at the show, so come along and see us, plus we will have a selection of the last of the current production of our ARTR models (if there are any left that by them.
 iI will do all I can along  with the other traders that care to keep this show alive, and to try and get it back to its former glory
Have a pre-view of the new boats
 Happy Boating
 Deans Marine
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Post by: Colin Bishop on March 12, 2010, 09:08:28 pm
I think the basic problem is that individual boaters (as opposed to those getting free tickets from invited club attendance) have to stump up the full whack entry fee of £8.50 per person just to browse the stands of a handful of traders and maybe run their boat. Not surprisingly people will jib at the cost. This means that the potential customer base for the traders will be confined to those who have secured free entry from their club free ticket allocations. That's not good for the traders and reduces the spectacle for the general public as extra boats will not be on show. The park should at least be offering a significant discount for people bringing a boat. Most will be genuine boaters and add to the flavour of the event. The possible occasional freeloader described in the above post is hardly likely to impact upon the financial viability of the park.

From the trader and park viewpoint the object must surely be to get as many boaters through the gate as possible - everybody benefits.

Colin
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Post by: Peter Fitness on March 12, 2010, 10:03:59 pm
Speaking as an outsider, and one who's not likely to be attending (it's a bit too far for me to go for the weekend  :-) ), the logic "I drive a car and am not able to gain free entry to a motor show" is rather flawed, as I presume the car you would use to get to the motor show would not be a part of the show. On the other hand, if someone brings a model boat to a show such as Beale Park, then the assumption would be that they would be participating in that show, and therefore should be entitled to receive some concession on their entry fee.

Our club exhibits at a number of shows - not necessarily dedicated model boat shows - and all our members receive free admission as long as we are wearing our club shirts.

Peter.
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Post by: andywright on March 19, 2010, 09:56:14 pm
The South Wales model Boat show used to pay clubs to attend, I think now its free, but the clubs, boats and traders are the reason we go,  probably half the people wouldn't go if it wasn't for traders, we all go to see our latest addition to the 'wish list', but high entry fees kill the show, the traders have to pay a lot of money for a stand, plus the cost of transport and stock, I know without the stock they do not make profit, but the cost of the stand ,fuel, and accomodation is a real killer, so organisers should be happy that modellers come to the show and recomend he venue to other interested parties, and treat what the traders pay as the profit for the show, I for one don't mind apying a couple of pounds entry, but to pay upwards of £8.00 entry is a high price to pay. Traders need modellers to make it worth while attending the shows.
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Post by: HUNTER on March 24, 2010, 01:55:10 pm
Hi Guys,
Yes, you're right - it's the old fart again!!
I have today received the official statement from the Administrator of the Beale Park Show. I have replied to it and await some answers - hopefully!
I show it to you in full as I received it.

Beale Park Wildlife Park & Gardens, at Lower Basildon in Berkshire, will be hosting its annual spring model boat show on May 1st & 2nd 2010.

The Child Beale Trust is a non-profit making registered charity and in order to carry on its activities is dependent upon the revenue raised on entrance to the Park, the income generated from events and from donations. Beale Park is happy and pleased to support the model boat fraternity that, in its turn, helps support the Trust in it’s charitable work.

The show will be attended by various traders including: David Brumpstead, Mastman, Propshop, Deans Marine, Hunter Systems, SHG, All Components, Macs Mouldings, Mobile Marines Models, Tony Richardson, John Gittings and MMB.

Clubs that have attended in previous years will receive a letter from the organisers in the coming weeks.

  Individuals who wish to exhibit MUST pre-register their attendance and boat details with Graham Shepherd on: 01323 503336 or Ian Hughes on: 01189

Further information is available on the Park’s website: www.bealepark.co.uk or by telephone on: 0844 826 1761



I am not sure what to make of it!
Graham
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Post by: Shipmate60 on March 24, 2010, 03:50:48 pm
Graham,
Is this the email awaited from March 12th?

Bob
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Post by: cos918 on March 24, 2010, 04:02:50 pm
So one has to register ok. What about the £8.50  entrance  fee as that was the question being asked.

John
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Post by: HUNTER on March 24, 2010, 08:15:50 pm
Hi Guys,
Old fart again.
Seems that I jumped the gun putting the statement on the Forum. It seems that it was just something to discuss with them without any details.
They will phone me tomorrow to give me the details - hopefully.
So watch this space.
Graham
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Post by: HUNTER on March 26, 2010, 04:31:58 pm
Ok people, listen up! Its the Old fart again.

I have spoken again to the Organisers and have brokered a deal with them for this their 30th year of the show. As in previous years, the Clubs will be invited to the show - they will get to list up-to ten members of their Club who want to attend and exhibit. There will be NO CHARGE to the first ten people on that list. So it will work like this - Get on the list and get a free invite to the first ten people in the Club that will be attending. You will get an acknowledgement from Beale which when presented at the gate will get you a wristband for free entry to the show for the weekend. No wristband - NO free entry.

For the individual exhibitors, you are also getting FREE ENTRY. To get this - you must apply to me. The address is 24 Aspen Road, Eastbourne, East Sussex. BN22 0TG. I am not too clear on how many free tickets I will have, but I think it may be only ten, but it is a start.

I am also told that there will not be any gazebo's available this year unless Richard erects his own two -  so people are advised to take their own. This will be in the Club invites.

I am told that the Show will be advertised in the two model boat magazines, local papers and local radio plus the on-site publicity at the Park.

Also, I have been told, there will be a new caterer offering good selection of decent food at lower prices than before.

Also, FREE camping on the camping field for the entire weekend.

Well that should be all, I hope that I haven't missed anything out or added anything that I shouldn't have.

Just think, sailing your model on a nice lake in a nice park with camping all weekend. And it is all FREE!!! Ok, you will have to spend all of your money with us on the Trade Stands - not everything is free! The traders that will be attending have all shown faith in the Show - so please give them your support.

All we need is some good weather - that's were you come in Mr Dean!! (I am told that you have the contacts).

On a final note - Myself and other concerned people have done our best to revive the show - lets hope it all cracks off on a good note. It would be nice to see the camping field full like it used to be.

If there should be any changes, I will post them here.
Regards to you all.
Graham Sheppard
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Post by: Colin Bishop on March 26, 2010, 05:42:54 pm
Many thanks for your efforts on this Graham, I am sure they are much appreciated by everyone.

As you say, I suspect you will get a nominal allocation of ten tickets as they are regarding you as an 'extra club'. However, if demand is greater then I reckon you should be able to negotiate a higher allocation. I assume that the free tickets will apply to the modeller only and not to any accompanying family members.

It seems rather a pity that you have had to go to all this effort on our behalf. It never seemed to be a problem in the old days.

Colin
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Post by: HUNTER on March 26, 2010, 08:01:19 pm
Hi Colin,
You are right regarding ticket allocation - they do not include family members unless - I guess - they too are exhibitors and members of that certain club and are listed by the club for the ticket application - sorry, but it was  that or nothing.
Lets hope it all works out for all concerned.
Best Regards
Graham
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Post by: des321 on March 26, 2010, 08:38:04 pm
Well done to Hunter.  I went to the show last year for the first time. I had a great day out. Spent loads of money with the traders and got to sail my boat.  It's a lovely location and I think it is a cracking day out whether you get a free ticket or not.
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Post by: Macsmouldings on March 26, 2010, 10:11:13 pm
Well done Graham, thats what we need , good communication regarding this show. Have today booked my accommodation, so Macs Mouldings will be in attendance, see you all there.
regards,
Martin and Mel.
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Post by: lifeboatpaul on March 27, 2010, 06:04:44 pm
Graham, I think we will have to start calling you "saint Graham"

Regards Paul. :-))
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Post by: HUNTER on March 28, 2010, 03:17:13 pm
Hi Paul,
Don't be daft, I am just someone who cares and can use a bit of clout now and again. <*<
I must stop calling my self The Old Fa.t as someone thinks I shouldnt!! People who know me would and do.
Regards
Graham :-))
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Post by: Dean's Marine on March 29, 2010, 05:49:27 pm
All we need is some good weather - that's were you come in Mr Dean!! (I am told that you have the contacts).

Hi Graham
 When I said to you I will ask the "all powerfull one" I MEANT THE WIFE, and I di hope the weather is good for the weekend.
 Deans Marine will be supporting the show as normal, and I hope others will join in and hopefully we can get the  Beale show back to its glory days, it is still the best venue I know of, and where else do we go that the boss is one of us.
 To make the show a bit more appealing we have pulled out the stops, at Nurnburg model fair 2010 we displayed 11 new prototypes, we hope the have 3 new releases at the Beale show, plus lost of new parts and bits, all the new Props and shafts,  here are some tasters
 SEE YOU AT THE SHOW
 Regards
 Deans marine
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: HUNTER on March 29, 2010, 08:32:20 pm
Hi All,
Did I tell you that we have a Brand New Super Duper 8 way Rx controlled switcher for under 45 squiggles that will be shown at the Beale show? Hope to be reviewed in the magazine soon. We are also selling that Planet 5, 2.4 gig Radio, plus the bits too!!
Regards
Graham
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Post by: SteamboatPhil on April 03, 2010, 07:05:38 am
I seem to have been missed of the invite list this year (Blackheath MPBC), who's the best person to contact

Phil
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Post by: HUNTER on April 03, 2010, 09:38:44 am
Hi Phil,
Leave it with me, i will talk to Organiser. (Can't miss out on that £20 note!!)
Regards
Graham
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Post by: SteamboatPhil on April 03, 2010, 11:57:49 am
Many thanks

(just going to iron out the said £20-00 note)  {-)
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Post by: HUNTER on April 07, 2010, 05:02:38 pm
Hi All.
It's the young good looking Fart here.
I have had PM's from people who are not sure on how many free tickets are being issued to people or how they will get them on the day. I have actually said in a previous dispatch that the number is ten.
I will therefore go through it again.

The entrance wristbands are for TEN only - not as many as names can be squeezed into the box on the form. %%(the accompanying letter that went out with the form should have stated only ten, I actually put that number on the forum).

Someone has also asked How will they get their wristband from me when I will be inside the Beale Centre setting up the stand/selling?
Easy, I or a deputy will be loitering around the SIDE ENTRANCE GATE issuing wristbands between 8.30am and 9.45 am on Saturday and Sunday. - "Simple" as my munchin says!

 Anyone wanting entry/exit etc out of these hours must go to the main entry booths as I have been informed that the gate will be locked. (Health and safety issue)
Hope this makes sense. If there are any changes I will let you know.

Regards
Graham
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Post by: HUNTER on April 07, 2010, 05:07:14 pm
OK, its me again,
Forgot to say that the Beale centre staff are still sending out the invites so don't worry at the moment if you haven't heard. If you or your Club have not got an invite letter/form by 14th April then just PM me and I will sort it out - promise.
Regards
Graham
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Post by: Guy Bagley on April 07, 2010, 05:14:04 pm
the letter sent out from Beale park did not state TEN.......yes i know in the past it was 10 and yes it was mentioned here at 10 -  but when you get the official letter from Belae park asking for names we put names on it- 16 so far !

 - especially as our club  chairman put out a heartfelt request for us a local club to support this event  at our recent club meeting we now have 16 members signed up to come and exhibit !

 there is going to be some dissapointed boaters..........


Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: HUNTER on April 08, 2010, 01:27:10 pm
Hi Guys
As there appears to be a communication problem here - To make it quite clear- again,  Richard Howard agreed to give away to exhibitors attending the Beale show with boats who will put there boats on the water up to TEN Free tickets per. Club. Not eleven or twelve etc.........................JUST TEN!! In Case anyone forgets- its up to TEN- its up to TEN-its up to TEN-its up to TEN-its up to TEN- its up to TEN-its up to TEN-its up to TEN-its up to TEN- its up to TEN-its up to TEN-its up to TEN-its up to TEN- its up to TEN-its up to TEN-its up to TEN :police:
Regards
Graham
You know it makes sense.
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: Guy Bagley on April 08, 2010, 02:36:34 pm
communication problem- oh yes......ok ten it is- i hear you hunter..... i know you dont set the rules.....but how does it make sense to turn away exhbitiors wishing to exhibit ? - i say again ten is not stated in the ltter from beale park.......
i wont bother going- but i wont give the trade my business either ?- i wont buy lunch at the venue ( and boy can i eat )  and i wont take the wife n kids either ? and my gazebo and tables will stay at home....   it does n't make sense to me........

if the show is to be ressurected its a wierd way of going about it ?

 i 'll save my money and go to wicksteed, the kids can play there instead and we all have lunch at that venue........... look like that show is on the 'up'
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Post by: SteamboatPhil on April 08, 2010, 02:39:37 pm
Wish I had , whots the number---oh yeah  10 -----members in my club  {-) {-)

Just me then  <:(

(how am I doing on the sympathy vote......)

Looking forward to a good weekend
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: HUNTER on April 08, 2010, 03:34:28 pm
communication problem- oh yes......ok ten it is- i hear you hunter..... i know you dont set the rules.....but how does it make sense to turn away exhbitiors wishing to exhibit ? - i say again ten is not stated in the ltter from beale park.......
i wont bother going- but i wont give the trade my business either ?- i wont buy lunch at the venue ( and boy can i eat )  and i wont take the wife n kids either ? and my gazebo and tables will stay at home....   it does n't make sense to me........

if the show is to be ressurected its a wierd way of going about it ?

 i 'll save my money and go to wicksteed, the kids can play there instead and we all have lunch at that venue........... look like that show is on the 'up'

Hi Guy
The Problem has, I think been solved. I have had a PM from Dave, your Chairman. We may have resolved the problem, I suggest you speak to him. As for not attending the show, I understand what you are saying but please don't shoot the messanger. I only wish to see this show live again, and I know that you do too.
I am not the organ grinder just the monkey.
if you wish for comments to be put to Richard directely than give me a PM and I will give you his home telephone number.
Regards
Graham
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Post by: alan colson on April 08, 2010, 03:46:30 pm
Hi Guy
We would welcome your 16 members with open arms at the Alfold Charity Model Boat Show
Alan
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Post by: snowwolflair on April 08, 2010, 03:58:09 pm
Hi Guy
We would welcome your 16 members with open arms at the Alfold Charity Model Boat Show
Alan

Guy

Put it on the agenda for the next meeting :-))

David
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: HUNTER on April 08, 2010, 07:46:07 pm
Hi Guy
We would welcome your 16 members with open arms at the Alfold Charity Model Boat Show
Alan
Now that's also a good show worth going to. The Barbie on Saturday evening is very good - although it is hosted by some nutter in his pyjamas! %% O0
See you all there.
Regards
Graham
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Post by: Guy Bagley on April 09, 2010, 08:57:18 am
Guy

Put it on the agenda for the next meeting :-))

David

 it was on the agneda, and some of us are bookedto go !!!
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Post by: Guy Bagley on April 09, 2010, 09:00:11 am
Hi Guy
The Problem has, I think been solved. I have had a PM from Dave, your Chairman. We may have resolved the problem, I suggest you speak to him. As for not attending the show, I understand what you are saying but please don't shoot the messanger. I only wish to see this show live again, and I know that you do too.
I am not the organ grinder just the monkey.
if you wish for comments to be put to Richard directely than give me a PM and I will give you his home telephone number.
Regards
Graham


 Graham, i know you dont make the rules, i was hnot having a go at you personally !- as it happens i also have richards number !!!--

i actually want this show to be reborn as it were, i just find 'the beale logic' bizarre........there is nothing worse than seeing another show go into demise and dissapear.....


i have spoken with dave and we will work on a solution..
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: billy01 on April 13, 2010, 12:13:40 am
For some reason not included in Graham's list of traders is Component-Shop (Batteries etc)
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Post by: HUNTER on April 13, 2010, 09:57:46 am
Hi All,
Whoops, sorry mate but I confused another Trader with Ian's 'Component Shop'. Way back I listed All Components rather than Component Shop. My fault - I buy items from All Components for my own garden railway!! All Components won't be attending the show but Component Shop will. Sorry for the confusion.
Regards
Graham
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Post by: HUNTER on April 17, 2010, 09:10:17 pm
Hi Guys,
Just a reminder to get your applications in to me before the 26th as these have to be approved by the Organisers at Beale before the day. Please remember as what has been mentioned many times in this thread - Applications for the free entry is confined to ten bonafide Club members.
Just remember also that ten independent modellers can use the jokers card that I hold to get you a free ticket, but you must again contact me before the 26th.
All best regards
Graham
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: Dean's Marine on April 21, 2010, 01:14:15 pm
Dear Modellers
 Deans marine have always supported the Beale park model boat show as we feel that it was, and still can be one of the top model boat shows around, so all the ticket touts who would run our hobby down for a few quid in their pockets, come to the show, and be part of the show, or try Lego, and stop slagging off something we enjoy.
 Many visitors to shows like to see new items, we have pulled out all the stops now we have managed to get back from Germany.? so we will be at the Beale show with 9 new models + 2 new prototypes kits, the new range of Albion brass micro tubes + nickel silver tubes and rods in 1 mtr lengths, the new RB fittings, a large range of new brass props and styrene strips from Raboesch (yes we still stock the full range contrary to what you read)  plus all the usual goodies.
 Look forward to seeing you at the Beale show, where else can you get a nice park, free camping and car parking, nice safe water, enjoyment for the families, and a owner who is a model boat nut, just like us, he does it for the money I hear the sad ones cry ? do not kid yourselves that we are that important to the park, the boaters are just a minnow, if we lose it, it will be lost forever, and that will be a great shame.
 Please enjoy the pics, and we hope to see you at the Park
pics in 2 attachments
 Regards
 Deans Marine
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Post by: Dean's Marine on April 21, 2010, 01:16:07 pm
And the rest of the new models
 Regards
 Deans Msrine
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: HUNTER on April 22, 2010, 06:28:50 pm
Hi Guys,
Its the young/old F..t here.
Just to update you all - so far..............
13 Traders have booked in plus another which we are trying to squeeze into the Beale Centre.
18 plus Clubs have booked in so far and there are several who have applied for entry forms which are being sent out from Beale this week.
88 plus Exhibitors are attending the show.
Numbers are going up every day!

I feel that you guys have rallied round and shown to many that the 'old dog' known as the Beale Show is not dead but has been sleeping. Give yourselves a big slap on the back. Thank You!!

Regards
Graham
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Post by: SteamboatPhil on April 22, 2010, 09:26:45 pm
I'm looking forward to a good weekend, well done Graham  :-)) :-))
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Post by: chingdevil on April 23, 2010, 06:34:09 am
I will see you all there on the Sunday

Brian
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: HUNTER on April 23, 2010, 02:49:51 pm
Update from the old F..t
We know have 20 clubs and over 100 exhibitors!javascript:void(0);
Regards
Graham
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: Edward Pinniger on April 23, 2010, 03:49:44 pm
I hope to be there on Saturday (May 1), I'm also hoping to bring my motor yacht (unfinished but in running condition) to run + display on the Black Park stand.
This year's show certainly has potential to be a great improvement - though I still thought last year had a fairly good turnout of clubs and some interesting models sailing, even if there was less trade support. Beale Park is certainly a great venue for a model boat show and I hope this event keeps going!
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Post by: HUNTER on April 29, 2010, 07:28:01 pm
Hi All,
Here is the final posting from the organiser of the Beale Park May Boat Festival.

 The large side gate will be manned from 8.30am - 11.00am on Saturday and Sunday.
 All the exhibitors who have booked in should be aware that they need to bring their own gazebos and tables, (as per letter)

 On arrival they will need to go to the side gate, show their identity and the boat they wish to exhibit, there will be a spreadsheet of who has booked in.  People assisting with the monitoring of the side gate will need to confirm their names etc with the spreadsheet, tick them off the list/spreadsheet and then issue them with their wristband.

 Accompanying guests ie wives, partners, children siblings not exhibiting will need to go through the Beale Park Ticket office and pay the normal entrance fee.

There will be on the last count Twelve Traders plus approx. 150 Exhibitors in twenty plus Clubs.
 
I wish everybody has a damned good weekend and hope to see you all there.

If there are any changes I will try and post them here before we leave for the show.

Regards
Graham Sheppard
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Post by: ray123 on April 29, 2010, 09:08:09 pm
i have booked in  but theres a last min person from my club that would like to go   is it to late to book him in  he will be bringing a boat to use

regards ray
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Post by: SteamboatPhil on April 30, 2010, 07:15:39 pm
I hope I'm booked in, I have not received any paper work from Beale, so fingers crossed----oh I'm typing this from the camp site at Beale, and a jolly fine evening its turned out to be too.

So maybe I'll have to gate crash  :-))
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Post by: SteamboatPhil on April 30, 2010, 07:17:25 pm
Oh and I do have Mayhem merchandise with me  :-)) :-))
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Post by: Martin (Admin) on April 30, 2010, 09:38:08 pm

Caravan settled.
 Stove on,
  Kettle boiled but drinking beer,
   Fish & Chips in hand,
    A weekend of model boats to look forward too........     :-)
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: ray123 on April 30, 2010, 10:34:01 pm
what caravan are you martin  so i know what one to  knock on for a cuppa in the morning {-)
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Post by: SteamboatPhil on May 01, 2010, 08:02:04 am
And me  :-))
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Post by: HUNTER on May 01, 2010, 07:24:23 pm
Cup of cocoa for me please Martin!
The old fart
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Post by: The long Build on May 01, 2010, 07:49:37 pm
what caravan are you martin  so i know what one to  knock on for a cuppa in the morning {-)

The one that says £20 notes accepted -  slide under door..  :}
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Post by: Del-boy1958 on May 01, 2010, 10:36:15 pm
Hi Guys ans Girls
Went to the show today and it was very good Well done mr Hunter.
Even managed the sun and there were 23 clubs and 12 traders.
Paul and myself and Dom are going sunday too.

Del
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Post by: HUNTER on May 02, 2010, 07:48:15 pm
Hi All,
I am sitting here after a long weekend, in my caravan on the campsite at Beale with a large cocoa in hand - honest. I am very tired after batting around this weekend like a blue 'bottom' fly.
But all I can think of is how well you guys are at coming to the rescue of a failing show. I asked and you all came forward and put your best foot forward. I stood on the lake side at Beale, the rain was coming down and it was cold but looking over to the Exhibitors all out there with their boats on display and hopefully enjoying them selves all I can say is thank you - thank you and well down - you all deserve a pat on the back. The smiles while waiting to get through Border Control at THE GATE was special to all of us organ grinder monkeys.
Again, well done to you all,javascript:void(0);
Regards
Graham (The Old Fart)   
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Post by: Del-boy1958 on May 02, 2010, 07:57:39 pm
Thanks again to Hunters for getting this show back to life.
I helped Phil spend many £20s (Loads)
I am sure he will reveal all.... ok2 ok2
Bit Damp this morning and a bit cold But I counted 13 clubs today.

Del
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Post by: Corposant on May 02, 2010, 09:04:23 pm
I attended yesterday and thought the show was excellent. A goodly range of models to admire (some to drool over!) and the lake was busy all the time I was there. Sadly, I forgot to take a camera. The weather forecast probably put a number of potential visitors off but hopefully the traders did reasonably well. Congratulations to Graham and everyone else involved, many thanks for all your hard work.

Mike
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Post by: wideawake on May 02, 2010, 10:42:48 pm
I'm delighted that the show is a success this year.  I would have been there had my partner's daughter not decided to get married yesterday in Leeds.   i don't think I, never mind my relationship, would have survived if I'd suggested that I'd rush back to go to BP.    There's always next year!

Well done Graham.

cheers

Guy
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Post by: des321 on May 03, 2010, 04:18:10 pm
I enjoyed the show. Too busy with my boats and buying stuff to take many photos. But here's one.
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Post by: 17-21 on May 03, 2010, 10:33:34 pm
Had a great weekend and nice to see lots of other clubs attending, bit wet on sunday but by midday was able to play again, big thanks to graham for all his had work

Phil


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Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: SteamboatPhil on May 03, 2010, 11:10:21 pm
Arghhh
Wot a great show, I was ther for the 2 days along with soooooooo many clubs supportingg the event (Graham £20 still safe ) huge thanks to all (Ian et al from MTBC) I had a great time, chatted with chums, and don't forget all the lovely traders that were there (£20 note safe---orders given to a couple----oooh money must change hands)------Lots on the water (no straight running stean this year---watch this space) Some great stuff.
Now it appears several certain memerbers saw me on Sat night trying to BBQ some sasuages some 5 mins after the rain sterted

WellI had a lot of steam around me

I rest my case

However the caravans were------- {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

And no offer of help

Great show, a few hic--ups on entry, sorted for next year, getting back to the old days (sic)     keep it upchaps

£20 almost removed by Graham on entry-------but I got under wire fence and fooled him   :-)) :-))
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: hover tim on May 05, 2010, 07:50:00 pm
pics od the hovercraft from last weekend can be seen at http://www.flickr.com/photos/hover_bover/
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: hover tim on May 05, 2010, 07:50:59 pm
and here http://www.flickr.com/photos/19759955@N07/
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: HUNTER on May 09, 2010, 08:40:52 pm
Arghhh
Wot a great show, I was ther for the 2 days along with soooooooo many clubs supportingg the event (Graham £20 still safe ) huge thanks to all (Ian et al from MTBC) I had a great time, chatted with chums, and don't forget all the lovely traders that were there (£20 note safe---orders given to a couple----oooh money must change hands)------Lots on the water (no straight running stean this year---watch this space) Some great stuff.
Now it appears several certain memerbers saw me on Sat night trying to BBQ some sasuages some 5 mins after the rain sterted

WellI had a lot of steam around me

I rest my case

However the caravans were------- {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

And no offer of help

Great show, a few hic--ups on entry, sorted for next year, getting back to the old days (sic)     keep it upchaps

£20 almost removed by Graham on entry-------but I got under wire fence and fooled him   :-)) :-))


Ah! but I know where you live Phil!!!!! That wire fence by the way was the fence for the lion enclosure.
Regards
Graham
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: jonny shoreboy on May 16, 2010, 12:12:55 pm
My wife and I really enjoyed the Beale Park show this year. It is a wonderful place for an event with lots to keep everyone happy. The collection of model boats on display were terrific and the Beale Park collection was HUGE! Met some people from a model club in North London were I have been invited to go and sail which was great and the amount of trade stuff on sale was wonderful.

I would like to say a special thanks to the team at Deans Marine. Thank you for answering all my questions about your HMS Tanatside kit and letting me poke around in one of your kits to See what was included. My wife and I really enjoyed meeting you all and chatting about boats and the like. It was a massive help.
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: MCAT on June 22, 2010, 04:14:13 pm
found a few more pics of Beale so before i wipe the camera Ive  (dumped)  downloaded them for you guys    Lol

I was there on sunny Saturday I thought is was a good en this year
Title: Re: beale park???
Post by: MCAT on June 22, 2010, 04:18:53 pm
couple more    <:(