Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Navy - Military - Battleships: => Topic started by: ron h on April 08, 2006, 12:56:08 pm
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HMS IRON DUKE set sail on her maiden voyage at Ellesmere Port 2nd April
(http://warshipmodels.com/~users/rh/D8X.jpg)
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What a great boat! Is it from a kit?
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Scratchbuilt to a scale of 1/96, she is 6ft-6inch,s long , 11 inches wide, and displaces 55lbs , 14 months to build, she is displayed as of the time 1916 Battle of Jutland, Admiral Jerico,s flag ship, hence the St GEORGE flag on the top of the fighting top. ron h
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Nice to see the Duke on here Ron. This must be the best WW1 Battleship Model in the UK. a brilliant looking model and she sails beautifully. Well done Ron ;D ;D ;D
This model will be appearing at the Kingsbury Model Boat Club Warship Day on Sunday July 2nd.
See club events forum for further details.
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Im the one in the diamomd check cardigan :)
(http://warshipmodels.com/~users/dwol/D-11.jpg)
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Im the one in the diamomd check cardigan :)
(http://warshipmodels.com/~users/dwol/D-11.jpg)
Posing again Ron ;D ;D ;D
Note, uncompleted H.M.S. Victorious, left background
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That's a mighty fine model you have built there sir, I take my hat off to you. Reading through the posts it seems that your friend Warship is building a similar model as well as his aircraft carrier. Is that him with you in the photo?
John
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That's a mighty fine model you have built there sir, I take my hat off to you. Reading through the posts it seems that your friend Warship is building a similar model as well as his aircraft carrier. Is that him with you in the photo?
John
Is that me in the photo? I hope not John. That gentleman is not a member of the Grand Fleet, he is a German Sea Kapitan ,lol Herr Howie Baker! lol. Who is presently building the Derfflinger, a German Battle Cruiser.
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I really like the IRON DUKE, it is excellent.? ? ?I have not built many warships because of lack of plans.? ?Are the IRON DUKE plans commercially available in the U.K.? ? ? I built HMS DREADNOUGHT (1906) from Anatomy of a Ship, but the other battleship plans in Anatomy books are too mixed up, i.e. profile in 1916, decks in 1940 etc etc.? ? ?Also built heavy crusier HMS NORFOLK from MacGergor plans.? ? Recently got battleship DUKE OF YORK plans from Ebay, but they seem incomplete in some areas.
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YES, TRY, www.whiteensignmodels.com
look for Sambrook models, capitol ships and monitors.
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Thanks, I found it OK and there were several battleship plans that I was interested in.? ?I had not heard of that site before.
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There a very good company to deel with, very quick, good luck, ron h
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I enjoyed finding your photo of a very impressive Iron Duke as I am planning to build HMS St.Vincent at the time of Jutland.? I have bought the Deansmarine hull as a start and now have to work out what the ship looked like.? Most photos seem to be pre-WW1 but I think I've found some fuzzy examples of Vincent and sister ships Vanguard and Collingwood with the 4inch guns, superstructure and foretops rearranged for around the time of Jutland.? Can anyone recommend that I spend ~?200 on NMM plans for this ship (I have a quote and all the plans would come to even more!)?? Any other hints at where to find the details of this ship appreciated.
If you wish to know why I'm making the job difficult, my grandad was a seaman gunner at Jutland on HMS St Vincent and claimed to have relayed the message to fire the shell that made a big hole in Derfflinger.? I can't in conscience make anything else, can I?
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Hi, I was going to build HMS TIGER but could not justify spending ?200. 00 on NMM plans, I found the Iron Duke drawings for about ?30.00 at Sambrooks Models, the results are above, cost me about ?450.00 to build with radio, motors, props , metal gun barrels all 22. ron h
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A very topical subject.
This year is the fiftieth anniversary of the battle of Jutland and many Naval Establishments are holding commemorative dinners.
In HMS Forward, (Birmingham), where I work, we have the original gun room table from HMS Iron Duke and it forms the centrepiece of much of our memorabilia.
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Your date is out a little, its the 90 th anniversary of Jutland, 1916- 2006, ron h
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Thank you Ron. The last forty years have gone by in a flash!
Charles H
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A few close ups.
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:o How cool is that! How do you transport it and get it into and out of the water?
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Hi , I have a little van, or it fits in the car, I usually ballest it out and lower it in to the water on 2 slings, it weighs about 50lbs at sailing weight, 16lbs with out ballast or batteries. ron h
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Hi RonH,
I started the same model some years ago but need info to finish.
Do you have any detail about the boat conrol platform fixtures? and the fittings for the Searchlight control area?
Oh, and hello to all, my first post this forum.
J.
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Hi, The drawings show very little, as for the boat control platform,I have that to finish when I find out what the fittings look like, search lights there are 10 twin searchlights , all on different platforms, as for control, I have no idea, sorry, ron h
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This is the boat control platform, this is a middle of build photo.
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IRON DUKE at cruising speed.
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Dear Ron, my compliments on that brilliant model!
Happy modeling from Germany,
J?rg
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Dear Ron, my compliments on that brilliant model!
Happy modeling from Germany,
J?rg
Thanks for the complements, it was a bad day for her launch, rain and more rain, a 14 month project finished on the day our friend from the USA arrived to see her sail, so she had to belaunched no matter what the weather was like. ron h
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Ron, though you may give her the predicate: WATERPROOFED! :D
J?rg
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Thanks for the reply Ron,
If I ever find out what the fittings look like I shall remeber to give you a post.
J.
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Hi , This is what the drawings shows, if you can make anything out of it , your a better man than I Gunger Din.
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Hi Ron,
That looks like the Sambrook plans I have.
Sadly I'm jankers, not Ginga Din. Only been trying to get info for the last 10 years.
If it ever gets near water i imagine it will have a box on the platform
covered with a tarpaulin to hide the "detail".
J.
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Hi Ron,
That looks like the Sambrook plans I have.
Sadly I'm jankers, not Ginga Din. Only been trying to get info for the last 10 years.
If it ever gets near water i imagine it will have a box on the platform
covered with a tarpaulin to hide the "detail".
J.
They are Sambrooks, YOUR A BETTER MAN THAN I GUNGER DIN, Is a saying from the book The Three Feathers, I could not make out what they really look like, hence the saying, ::) ::)
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Aye Ron,
That's just my poor attempt at humour.
I see you have portrayed your model c1916, do you have any info re the 'baffles' attached to the funnel?
I have seen a pic which supposedley shows this, but only ever the one.
As I can't find it now, and didn't care for the look of it anyway, I'm not that bothered about trying to model it that way.
From memory the baffle seems to have been a canvas 'add-on' and i imagine would be difficult to model properly
at my odd 120:1 scale.
I'm just curious, as i sometimes read a reference about such fittings but photo's are very rare.
J.
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I have not seen any baffels on any photo,s of IRON DUKE, but I have seen photos of the class with them, will have to look at some of the sites I have visited. ;) ;)
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A few more sailing pictures. ;D ;D
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Hey Guys im back, ;) ;)
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Glad to see you back, I was wondering where you where and had not seen you on MB site eather
Peter
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looking forward to some more pictures of the "Duke"
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Hi, Because my user name has changed I can not put photo,s back into the thread, I could start a new one if people want to see them. ;) ;)
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This is the boat control platform, this is a middle of build photo.
What is the chain on the funnel for?
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Hi Ron, You can post photos on here under your new ID.
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Hi Ron, You can post photos on here under your new ID.
Your right Martin, but I cannot put any back that are missing from the posts above, because I can not edit the thread
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This is the boat control platform, this is a middle of build photo.
What is the chain on the funnel for?
These funnels were so tall they had to have ropes to host people up to paint or repair the stacks, but as you know ropes deteriate in salt water spray. The solution was to put chain up, they attached the rope to the chain, pulled the chain down and up went the rope, when work was finished down come the rope , up went the chain till the next time work was to be done. They did clank against the stack a bit. ;) ;)
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Another pic.
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A second one,
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Some took at ellemere port.
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LAST FOR NOW
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To save me posting more photo,s I will bring the thread forward, O0 ;) ;)
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Ron1,
Magnificent scratch build. :) Did you scratch build the hull ? Is it made from GRP or plank on frame.
I hope to build HMS Vanguard at 1:128 on a Fleetscale hull and know how difficult it is to get good plans and info. NMM plans are around 386GBP - frightening....as for close up photo's of superstructure almost impossible.
The deck - not coming from a naval background, did these ships have a planked deck or is that for appearance - but I like it anyway. O0 O0
Martin
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Hi Martin13, Yes I scratchbuilt it all, it is plank on frame with filla on top then litho plated.
Yes they had a planked deck, plenty of timber about in thoughs days.
Im getting the model ready forthe Birchwood show , hope to have her sailing, radio and everything tested out. O0 O0
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Beautiful model and beautiful photo's Ron. O0
regards
Gary :)
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Hi RonH,
I started the same model some years ago but need info to finish.
Do you have any detail about the boat conrol platform fixtures? and the fittings for the Searchlight control area?
Oh, and hello to all, my first post this forum.
J.
Don't these boas have the twin 36in searchlight? I saw a pic of a single the other day and that had dials on it, 2! Won't these on-light dials 'contol' them? Or are you talking about a 'global' control? Sort of like director firing for the main guns? The main director moves pointers and the gun layers move their controls until their pointer matches the 'master' [directors]?
That what you mean? I too have a vested iterst in this era. It's a pity Rons is 1;(6 as my 1:144 Lion would look great sailing next to it (though I hope Ron doesn't get overawed with my build quality (and the models not bad either) :-)
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Hey Ron
I'm pretty impressed here. As I'v said, I'm a good 95% of the way through building HMS LION, I started mid 93 and stopped about late94-mid 95 and since then it's sat on a self gathering dust and tobacco stains. I got it out the other week to show someone and decided to keep it down and finally finish it.
Hey, I have a load of q's if you'd run your eyes down them and pick off those you think you can answer. I'll start a new thread in this forum, thanks. Nice build and I'm really curious to know a few things.
Any chance to see a pic of your paravane chains as they enter the foredeck? How didyou fix them? Mine go around two bollards along the centreline.
How did you make your flags? [I'm also looking for someone to design me a meaningful signal to hang on LIONs halyards... nothing rude though! :-) Something maybe that Beatty had said, y'know.
Have you got paravanes on that boat, how big are they?
I see you went for the blue admirals barge. I too thought they were that nice dark-mid blue. But I've seen a N Ough Adm'ls barge that has a green hull. Anyone know what LION had?
You're having trouble with searchlight controls, my 'haven't a clue' is a 'sounding machine'? It's a mechanical device in lieu of a man swinging the lead. There's a boom too!
Oh there's too many Q's... have a look at my thread, thanks.
Paul
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Hi Ron
Thought you'd like to see this:
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2244/irondukeclassre2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
It'a from one of those 'history of ships' books with no caption, there may be a credit in the back if you're interested in the builder/location?
My best
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In memory of my Dad who passed away on the 13th September 2013 I would like to add a video of his model the Iron Duke in her new home at the Cayzer Building, London. The model was donated to Nick Jellicoe, Grandson of John Jellicoe, Captain of the Iron Duke at the Battle of Jutland in 1916.
Rest in Peace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVG-BInRNNQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVG-BInRNNQ)