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Mess Deck: General Section => Model Boating => Topic started by: Patrick Henry on February 23, 2010, 07:53:53 pm

Title: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 23, 2010, 07:53:53 pm
Anybody got two spare collets to fit onto a 4mm shaft?

Rich
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Marks Model Bits on February 23, 2010, 07:55:57 pm
Hi Rich, I can make a couple up for you matey!!!! For a nominal fee of course ;) ;) ;) ;)

Mark.
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 23, 2010, 08:07:37 pm
Hi Rich, I can make a couple up for you matey!!!! For a nominal fee of course ;) ;) ;) ;)

Mark.

Go on then Mark please...

Let me know when and how much?

Thanks mate,


Rich
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 23, 2010, 08:11:42 pm

Put me down for two as well please Mark.  The grub screw on my last one is in the Vacuum, have you got another please.

ken


Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Flying Sparks on February 23, 2010, 08:31:52 pm
Not got any collets but try here http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pack-of-4-Wheel-Collets-4mm-bore_W0QQitemZ390084642562QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=6affcca31250a0e202e50ff5fff35fc2 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Pack-of-4-Wheel-Collets-4mm-bore_W0QQitemZ390084642562QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&rvr_id=&cguid=6affcca31250a0e202e50ff5fff35fc2)

Phil.
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 23, 2010, 08:34:07 pm
Thanks Phil, I'm sorted now...the great Mark of No Mustang fame is doing me a couple. Thanks anyways...


Rich
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Marks Model Bits on February 23, 2010, 08:46:52 pm
Hi Ken, what diameter hole do you want in yours? 

Mark.
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 23, 2010, 08:48:51 pm
Mark...paypal done n' dusted.

Thanks,

Rich
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 24, 2010, 03:38:31 pm

I have spoken to Mark and he is making my special order sizes.

What service.   :-))

Seems he can make any to order. Give him a try

ken

Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 24, 2010, 04:23:36 pm
An absolute top man Ken....you'll not get better service anywhere".
Amended



Rich
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Netleyned on February 24, 2010, 04:57:46 pm
An absolute top man Ken...you'll get better service anywhere.


Rich

Should have gone to Specsavers Rich!

Ned
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 24, 2010, 05:21:09 pm
An absolute top man Ken...you'll get better service anywhere.


Rich

Oh hell...I'm in the deep do do if Mark sees that!!!  :embarrassed:  :embarrassed:  :embarrassed:

There's never a mod around when you want one, is there... %)

Sorry Mark....missed out the word NOT...What I meant to say was "An absolute top man Ken...you'll not get better service anywhere".


Rich (departing under the door, cap in hand and bowing low....)

Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Marks Model Bits on February 24, 2010, 06:53:51 pm
Too late Rich I saw it :P :P :P! Good job I have got a sense of humour :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) 



Or have I <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*<

Anyway they were sent out today by carrier duck {-) {-) {-) So they will be with you soon.

Mark.
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 24, 2010, 06:56:16 pm
Thanks Mark...what a magnificent, truly superb, top gun man your are. (am I excused now...?)


Rich
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 26, 2010, 03:40:49 pm
Hi Mark,

Magic...collets arrived this morning and fit perfectly...thanks ever so much for this, much appreciated.


Regards to you and yours,


Rich
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: tt1 on February 26, 2010, 04:18:04 pm
Please excuse me for poking my nose in, but what are these particular collets used for?  :embarrassed: I'm only aware of the type used in lathes / dremels etc. All part of the learning curve :-))
                    Cheers, Tony.
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 26, 2010, 04:47:55 pm
I'm using mine at the motor end of the propshafts to stop the shafts sliding out of the tubes.

Pic below reveals all...

Rich

Title: Re: collets...
Post by: tt1 on February 26, 2010, 05:48:09 pm
I'm using mine at the motor end of the propshafts to stop the shafts sliding out of the tubes.

Thanks Rich', so may I now I ask - why? are they used just for setting up? don't the couplings prevent this from happening when connected? sorry, please bear with me I really don't know. Could you also advise how much end play there should be between the motor and propellor when all is connected -  there's obviously a little play in the motor shaft but I'm using the shaft and tube as is that was provided with the kit and basically screwing the prop on one end coupling on the other and taking up as much slack as possible without causing friction.
        I hope I'm not breaking protocol here or 'highjacking' this thread. Please advise and accept my apologies if I am.
    Regards, Tony.






Title: Re: collets...
Post by: tt1 on February 26, 2010, 05:49:07 pm
Sorry! even got the quote bit wrong --------------------------- doh!!
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: tt1 on February 26, 2010, 05:50:19 pm
Sorry! even got the quote bit wrong --------------------------- doh!!
                                                                                               Tony.
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 26, 2010, 06:23:48 pm
Tony, I'm not using commercially available couplings on the shafts, I'm using two lengths of plastic tubing as couplings. The two motors are relatively low powered and are only running off a 4.8volt battery pack, so I'll not be worrying about high revs and coupling slippage with this set up. I often use plastic tube as couplings and never had a problem yet.

As regards end float in the shafts, I always guesstimate mine.....just a tad of play at both ends of the shaft is normally fine. Just enough play that you can feel...

Hope that helps?

Rich
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Netleyned on February 26, 2010, 06:47:00 pm
Rich

What plastic tubing do you use
Im building my first attempt at a
model boat
Connected all the electronics and tested on the bench
yesterday
Im building a fifie Amaranth and need to couple
a 385 motor  2.3mm to a 2mm propshaft
Would a plastic tube do the job instead of
a uv joint and couplings?

Help!

Yours Aye
Ned
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 26, 2010, 06:51:22 pm
I use either plastic air line as used in fish tanks or common or garden silicone tubing as used in model boat motor watercooling, never let me down yet. Just a showing of superglue  will hold the tubing securely, and if you have to remove it at any time, just run a very sharp craft knife over it and it peels away easily.


Rich
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: craftysod on February 26, 2010, 06:54:06 pm
Or car windscreen wash tubing,will suffice
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Netleyned on February 26, 2010, 07:02:01 pm
Thanks guys for the info
I was a bit puzzled as to the
shaft size difference using
plastic tubing
Super glue is the answer
CS I spent some time in the 70's
Down the Hole

Yours Aye
Ned

Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 26, 2010, 07:20:08 pm
"CS I spent some time in the 70's
Down the Hole"


err...have I missed something here? What hole?   :o


Rich
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 27, 2010, 10:31:48 am
Pic for Tony(tt1)...

Here's how I've set the plastic tube connectors up Tony..hope this helps?

Rich

Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 27, 2010, 10:37:05 am

Nice piece of engineering, Rich.  Very smart

ken

Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Netleyned on February 27, 2010, 03:24:43 pm
That the way to do it!
Cheers  Rich
A picture speaks louder than words

By the way
The Hole is somewhere Craftysod and I worked
Me in the 70's and CS in the 80's
It is a hole in the ground in Middlesex just round the
corner from where they filmed the 'Good Life'

Yours Aye
Ned

PS I also worked in a hole in the ground
in Whitehall under Horse Guards Parade!
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 27, 2010, 03:31:21 pm
Ah, understood now! I try to keep away from holes in the ground, they normally mean nothing but delays to me...but several people make a habit of looking into them.


Rich
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: tt1 on February 27, 2010, 05:41:10 pm
Thanks for the consideration and the picture Rich, clear as a bell now and a tidy job if ever I saw one.  ;)

             I'm building a loyal class from Model Slipway and compared to some of the installations I've seen on the forum and especially yours,  the hull I've got to work with is cavernous! No wonder I've been struggling as to how and where gear should be located  ----------- I've too many options and spoiled for choice!
                                       
                          Cheers, Tony.
Title: Re: collets...
Post by: Patrick Henry on February 27, 2010, 08:52:51 pm
Where's the pics then Tony? We like pics...


Rich