Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Steam => Topic started by: mike_victoriabc on May 15, 2010, 03:29:15 pm
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Our club had a fellow drop off 3-4 boats plus a ton of parts including the Stuart engines and small pumps. They belonged to his Father and G-Father and he was clearing out the estate. The idea was to donate them to our club and we'd sell them off as a fund raiser. Some of the stuff has already been spoken for but we don't really have a sense of value of them. Part of the problem is parts have been separated without knowing which is important if one ever wanted to make anything work.
I've taken a few photos of some books (at least a dozen similar), engine along with the innards of one of theboats. It appears this has parts removed but not sure what.
Value of these would be interesting. The other Stuart engines looked like they were assembled but perhaps only tested.
Your thoughts would be appreciated - either here or through my e-mail.
Thanks very much, Mike
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A few more photos:
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If you can tell me if there is something missing - I'd appreciate it. Not sure what he had for battery, etc
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Not sure what he had for battery, etc
Early radio control possibly ? Can't see the burner ??
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I would be very carfull that the boiler does not have asbestos on it for lagging .... the rear servo looks like the same material chewy red plastic that my old Aquamites where made from, and I think they where elmic, it seems to be old CW single Chanel it would have prob had a 90v and a 1.5v batteries they normally had a two pin on the LT 1.5v and a 3 pin on 90v.
very nice.
peter
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I think its a Climax servo ,
Peter
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It does look similar to asbestos - there are two pieces just aft of the boiler and below on the frame. Should it be replaced or just not poke it? The servo is a beast - says Micro servo - boat / car on it. Looks like it was produced before the push in type connectors.
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I would remove it BUT removing is not easy to do safely so i would take local advice, one it's gone it's not a problem any more and there are new products to replace it very cheaply, the radio battery plugs would be 2 pin with paxalin disk and the pins sticking out and the 3 pin is triangular arrangement with a metal hood.
Peter
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I'm going to try not to get all H&S here, but the danger with asbestos are the fibres, especially the microscopic ones you can't see. If you think it is asbestos, then I would genuinely find a local disposal company and seek help.
I have to be aware of asbestos and its applications with some of my work and it is very risky stuff to be around.
On a happier note, that boat is a superb example of early r/c. It would almost be a shame to remove it.
Ahhh, nostalgia's not what it used to be. :D
Neil
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Mike......in addition to the boiler insulation which may or may not be asbestos....you also display vertical & horizotal sheets of similar material
This material [un-touched] in it's current state would pose little threat, however there are documented precautions available for the safe removal & disposal of asbestos...as repeated exposure to & injestion of asbestos particulate displays no mercy >>:-( on those involved.......Derek
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Thanks for the asbestos info - I'm aware of the problems with it if unstable.
What would the burner have looked like - would it have sat behind the boiler? There was a lot of loose parts that other fellows took before we could sort out what they were related to.
Trying to get an idea on the Stuart stuff as well - all looked from the same period.
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From the age of it, I would have thought the burner would have been a petrol or (paraffin) kerosene blow torch. Steamboat Phil will no doubt be able to assist with pictures and a full explanation.
Neil
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Part of burner with fire coming out of it would look like a blowlamp fed by a tube on the non fire end connected to a cylindrical fuel can. If you look at DSC0108 the two black "Cradles" would have held the Cylinder and the spring clips retained it across the beam of the boat. Blowlamp or roarer type burner, that's why the what probably IS asbestos is sat on the floor of the hull. The boat looks very much like a "Streamlina"
The books are pretty standard finds on Fleebay, you can get Vic Smeeds for a couple of pounds and the K.N.Harris one, although a steam "Bible" can be obtained quite cheaply as some kind soul has put it as a download on a third world site.
The Stuart engine you've shown COULD be a 10V but you would need to measure the bore and stroke (Roughly without stripping it).
Regards Ian.
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Thanks for the help and information. I measured the Stuart and the dimensions match.
The cylinder might have been in the assorted odds and ends that disappeared - turned my back and half the Stuarts all left the room!
I've been reading these books and starting to see how this all worked -
I'll watch for photos of some others from your Wicksteed function.
Regards,
mike
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Yes indeed the blow lamp would have been of the parafin / petrol type. This picture shows one which is fitted into one of my members boats (built in 1934--the plant that is) and we still use the same design today (nothing new)
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Go on then Phil, gizza look :}
Regards Ian.
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b***er forgot to attach pic.
So here it is,
I will post photos of mine tomorrow.
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Thanks for the photo - two of those behind the boiler were in a separate box - the pump and tank, but no idea who now has them.
There are a group in town that have a live steam railway - they may be helpful, will try them too.
Thanks for the interest.