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Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Peter Fitness on December 19, 2010, 04:14:04 am
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I haven't made any comment about the cricket so far this Aussie summer, mainly because the Australian performances :embarrassed: have not been worthy of comment.....until now O0. I think it's fair to say that the win in Perth, by 267 runs, goes a long way to erasing the memory of the innings defeat in Adelaide. The Aussie bowlers, led by Mitch Johnson and Ryan Harris were magnificent but, I have to say, it's about time. Our batsmen still must improve markedly, with the exception of Mr Cricket, Mike Hussey, whose performances in the whole series have been outstanding :-)) Ricky Ponting, on the other hand, has been a waste of space both as a captain and a batsman. I have always disliked him as a captain and admired him as a batsman, but his batting record in this series has been atrocious. If it was anyone else but "Punter" he would have been out of the team long ago.
The turn around in form by both teams has been almost unbelievable, if they were racehorses the stewards would have been calling for swabs of the lot of them :o I think that the current England team are the best that country has produced for a long time, but they were made to look second rate in Perth. From an Australian perspective, the Perth win has brought the Ashes back to life. It's now up to the England team to pick themselves up and put this loss behind them, as Australia was able to do, because there are still 2 tests to go. I believe England are more than capable of fighting back, but now the Aussies have tasted blood they will be hard to beat.
I said to my wife before the Perth match started "If Australia wins this one, they will go on to win back the Ashes". While I couldn't pick the winner of a one horse race, I'm sticking by my fearless prediction O0
I can't wait for the Boxing Day test at the Melbourne Cricket Ground.
Peter.
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Peter,
I thought you had been very quiet on this subject for a while!! %% %% %% %%
From a cricketing point of view, the Perth result was just what the doctor ordered. From an England point of view it was a timely reminder that this Australian team is dangerous, particularly when hurt as they were after Adelaide.
I think the English team is better than the Aussies and these days they do not like losing, so as you say bring on Melbourne!! :-)) :-)) :-))
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England...whatever the game, consumate professionals at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!!!
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at least they are playing in the correct cricketing colour , whites ! however often ive cuaght a match being televised it never looks right when being played in those odd coloured strips ?
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Barry, I thought my post may bring a reply from you :-)
I tend to agree with you about the relative quality of the 2 sides. The England team is full of talent and has the ability to bounce back. However, after being clearly the better team in the first 2 tests, then to perform so badly in the third, Melbourne is going to be a real examination of their character. The Aussies, who were way down on confidence prior to Perth, now know that they can compete with England, and I think that they may just go on with it.
I'm really looking forward to Melbourne and Sydney.
Peter.
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Bring it on.. :-)) :-))
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win one draw one lose one draw one? ????????
cynical moi?
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Barry, I thought my post may bring a reply from you :-)
I tend to agree with you about the relative quality of the 2 sides. The England team is full of talent and has the ability to bounce back. However, after being clearly the better team in the first 2 tests, then to perform so badly in the third, Melbourne is going to be a real examination of their character. The Aussies, who were way down on confidence prior to Perth, now know that they can compete with England, and I think that they may just go on with it.
I'm really looking forward to Melbourne and Sydney.
Peter.
Maybe I am cynical, but if England had won, then the Series would have had no further interest, so to keep the Spectators coming, let Australia win, and the game will be exciting again.....
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The cynics are always going to "wonder". I may be gullible but I don't believe that either side would "throw" a match just to boost attendances. Maybe in Pakistan, but definitely not in England or Australia, there's too much pride at stake.
Attendances at the three tests so far have been outstanding, giving lie to the claim that test cricket is dying. It certainly isn't here, and definitely not when it comes to an Ashes series.
Peter.
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Attendances at the three tests so far have been outstanding, giving lie to the claim that test cricket is dying. It certainly isn't here, and definitely not when it comes to an Ashes series.
I'll never trust the BBC again :police:
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I'll never trust the BBC again
Why? What did the BBC do??
Peter.
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Reported that Australian support for cricket was on the wain and the turnout for the Ashes was expected to be low. Oh and England would have a walkover >>:-(
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Mel,,s ground is a good one for England ,,there are possibilties we may pull of a surprise ,,,but ,,its very dodgy ,innit .
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The only cricket matches I ever watch are those between England and Australia. But unless I wish to give the Murdoch family even more of my pennies I'm stymied. As far as I'm concerned the Ashes matches are a national institution for both countries. To let the coverage go to Sky is an abomination. What next? F1? If so, what's the point of us in the UK paying an extortionate licence "fee" only to have to pay as much again just to watch something?
Perhaps the "common sense" solution would be to split the 2 things. Pay the licence fee and watch the terrestrial stuff, or only subscribe to the satellite outfits. What a choice! BY.
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There,s no big answer to that ,,,or is there ..I like the Ashes ,where ever it is ,but there has to be some sense ,,what ?
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Peter 1-517 never seen that before on a scoreboard,i have been a cricket lover all my life and my sister who lives in OZ shes got the Aussie attitude now,
keep your mouth shut if you are getting thrashed but then shout from the rooftops if you win one.
I think two of the Aussies were outstanding in Perth Hussey/Johnson taylor made wicket for Johnson and both play for Perth one of the most difficult wickets in the world to play on,i do honestly beleive this is possibly the weakest Aussie team they have ever had and with all the match fixing with bookies it makes you wonder sometimes if all games are fixed to a certain extent.
Just imagine if England had won in Perth retained the ashes and then gone to the MCG the biggest ground in OZ folllowed by Sidney, i would imagine that both of them would hardly have been half full,when i have been to OZ they dont like wathing a losing team as shown in Brisbane on the 3rd day there were only the Barmy Army in the ground.
My predication poms win at the MCG skippies win at the SCG.
Cheers. :-))
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I believe that talk of match fixing in an Ashes series is utter rubbish >>:-( As I said in an earlier post, there is too much pride at stake for either team to "throw" a match. The cynics will always cry foul, but I simply ignore them, as most of them have no idea what they're talking about.
"Shout from the rooftops", well, everybody loves a winner, and none more so than most Aussies but, even after a comprehensive flogging at the Adelaide Oval, the attendances at the WACA ground in Perth were excellent. Anyway, beating the current England team in such a way is worth shouting about :-).
If there's one team in world cricket that Australia absolutely hates to be beaten by, it's England, so to suggest that they would deliberately lose a match against England is absolutely ludicrous. The reverse is also true, there's no way England would ever lie down against Australia. England won in Adelaide because it was far the better team, and Australia won in Perth because it was better - simple as that.
You say that the current Aussie team is the weakest we've ever had, but that has been said about most Aussie teams - when they lose. Australian cricket is certainly in a rebuilding phase, having lost so many good players due to retirement, and it will take time to "blood" new and inexperienced players. The strength of most national teams goes in cycles, look at the once mighty West Indies. England went through a bad patch, but I believe that the current England team is one of the best for many, many years. They are a vastly better unit than the one that was beaten 5-0 here on their last tour, even though a number of the current members were in that beaten team.
England has one big advantage over Australia and that is, if it can't find enough good local players, it can always import South Africans, or even the odd Aussie or two, to bolster its strength. Even an Irishman (Eoin Morgan) has been called upon. Australia did it once, with Kepler Wessels, who couldn't quite decide which country he wanted to play for {-)
However, time will tell which team comes out on top, but my money is still on the Aussies. Not too much of it though, as I'm not over confident ;)
Peter.
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Think you will find if you go back to the 80s cannot remember which year but might be 81 Rod Marsh & Dennis Lillie were involved in a betting scam in a AshesTest match i think it was at Headingly so dont feed me that it would not involve a Ashes test,as for our South Africans you are right KP.AS. and team manager TF,also the Aussies have Hilfanhus [Dutch] You have had a fast bowler cannot remember is name born in the UK and if Ponting is not fit for Melbourne you are going to have a Pakistani in your team.
I always appreciate a good team and the era wth M.Hayden.Justine Langer.Bret Lee.G.Mcgrath.S.Warne Adam.Gilchrist was IMO possibly the best Aussie team i have seen,but like you say they all retired at almost the same time and Aussie cricket team when the media start yelling for Warne to come back as got to be at its lowest.
My Prediction Poms Win Mcg.Skippies Win Scg
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This is a report on the so-called betting scandal involving Rod Marsh and Dennis Lillee
At Headingley on the 1981 tour of England, Australia was in such a strong position at one stage of the third Test that bookmakers at the ground were offering odds of 500–1 on an England victory. These odds were flashed on the scoreboard during a break in the game and noticed by the Australian players. Lillee and Rod Marsh believed that the odds were so ludicrous that, via a third party, they each put a small wager on the outcome, later describing their actions as a "joke". Between them, they collected 7,500 pounds when England pulled off a comeback victory. Both men openly discussed the incident and received no official censure or sanction, although some criticised their actions. There has never been a suggestion that the bets compromised their efforts in the game. However, the issue has been re-examined in modern times following the match-fixing scandals that have plagued international cricket since the mid-1990s.
While it was a stupid thing to do, it hardly constitutes match fixing, and it was 30 years ago.
For your information, Ben Hilfenhaus was born in Ulverstone, Tasmania, on 1st March 1983, so he is Australian. Usman Khawaja was indeed born in Pakistan, but moved to Australia as a young boy. He learned his cricket here, and played for the Australia Under 19s, the Australian Institute of Sport (AIS), and now plays for NSW. I am not sure who you are referring to when you say we had an English born fast bowler. All rounder Andrew Symonds was born in England, but moved here with his adoptive parents when he was 3 months old. He was eligible to play for England but chose to play for Australia instead. Kevin Pietersen, on the other hand, was born in South Africa in 1980 and made his first class debut for Natal in 1997. He is eligible to play for England as he has an English mother, but didn't play his first game for England until 2004. He even went back to South Africa for some batting practice before the Ashes tour. Other South Africans who come to mind as also having played for England are Basil D'Oliviera, Allan Lamb and Tony Greig, and I know there were others.
Perhaps you should get your facts right before posting O0
Peter.
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This is what I like....rising tensions before the big game starts.... %) %) %) %)
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If you dont think there is betting/match fixing in all forms of cricket you must be dead niave.I have heard Alan Border gobbing off when the aussies lost in Brisbane as Australia was playing the "British Empire",then we get Glen Mcrath gobbing off the skippies are going to win 5-0 and now we are back to the last weapon in their artillary "Sledging" this game is supposed to be a sport winners/losers but sometimes the losers take it harder to accept than others.
You seem to have a good knowledge of cricket but you dont say at what level you played at,the guy who was born in the UK is still a young guy now and i think he toured the UK the last time the skippies came over.
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I can remember when a Batsman would "Walk" if he got a touch and the Umpire didn't see it, only needed an appeal and he would go. Now you need a Video replay before he accepts a decision. About the only professional sport where Fair Play is still evident is Snooker, despite Higgins cheating and game fixing, I have seen both O'Sullivan and Ally Carter say they had touched another ball, so disqualifying themselves, and in O'Sullivans case, losing the Tournament. In both cases neither the Umpire or the TY cameras had seen the foul, only they knew and declared the foul. Now that would be nice to see in Football or Cricket.
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Hi Nordsee, Yes thats about spot on,i have seen some cricketers stumps re-arranged but batsman as not walked and looked at the umpire to make sure it was out,
sport as now lost its sportsmanship to what they now calll gamemanship which is a fancy name for cheating and that includes most sports especially cricket & football.
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Sport Ho Ho More like business as soon as money is involved
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport
Ned
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"Yep thats dead right"
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Uncle Albert, you can believe what you like about match fixing, it's obvious that nothing I say will change your mind.
As for Alan Border saying we were playing the British Empire....he's absolutely right O0, and Glenn McGrath was doing some stirring, which seems to have worked perfectly ;D
You mention sledging :o The Aussies certainly have a reputation for it, but just about all teams do it. Like it or not it's been part of the game for a long time now. James Anderson was the main offender in the Perth test, but he picked on the wrong team as he came off second best. You may be interested to read the following quote from an interview with England batsman, Alastair Cook, taken from an English website -
A lot has been made about sledging after the result in Perth but, from my own perspective, I’ve suffered worse verbal abuse playing club cricket.
In Perth, I didn’t notice any difference to either of the first two Tests. Maybe there was more banter flying about when the likes of Shane Warne and Glenn McGrath were about but, to be honest, when I first played for Maldon aged 14 or 15 I received more abuse than in the Ashes. It’s uncensored. You have old guys who’ve been playing for 20 years and they see a kid walking in who is an easy target – effectively it’s bullying. But this is nothing compared to that.
Read more here: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/851344-alastair-cook-forget-christmas-sledging-i-just-want-a-birthday-win#ixzz194LAw6wK (http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/851344-alastair-cook-forget-christmas-sledging-i-just-want-a-birthday-win#ixzz194LAw6wK)
Cook was asked by the Australian media to comment on a statement that the Perth wicket was prepared to suit the Aussies. He just laughed and said "Do you think we don't do it at home? Of course we do, everybody does, it's part of the home ground advantage".
I have to agree with Nordsee about "walking". Most players are taught to wait for the umpire's decision but some take it to extremes, such as standing their ground when the stumps are scattered. Adam Gilchrist famously walked in one test, and was roundly condemned by the press as a result. It didn't stop him from doing it on other occasions though.
I have not played cricket for 60 years, and then only at schoolboy level, but I have followed the game all my life. I have been privileged to see some very fine cricketers in that time, too. I am far from being an "expert", but I have gained a lot of knowledge over the years. When I don't know something I look it up, the internet is a wonderful tool - you should try it some time :-).
Peter.
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peter........what's sledging.
please excuse my ignorance.
neil
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Hi Neil, are you pulling my leg? :o
Anyway, here's the Wikipedia definition, which is a lot better than the one I could give you {-) {-)
Sledging is a term used in cricket to describe the practice whereby some players seek to gain an advantage by insulting or verbally intimidating the opposing batsman. The purpose is to try to weaken the opponent's concentration, thereby causing him to make mistakes or underperform. It can be effective because the batsman stands within hearing range of the bowler and certain close fielders; and vice-versa. The insults may be direct or feature in conversations among fielders designed to be overheard.
It's all good clean fun.....mostly %) {-)
Peter.
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It's all good clean fun.....mostly
A bit like Mayhem really....
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I could possibly accept maybe one misguided player on the take during a series like the ashes but to change the result you would need the cooperation of 22 players. In a five day test match where a bowler who dose not perform is given a spell and a batsmen who does not perform is sent back to the pavilion how could it be fixed. If you can believe that it can, then you probably believe that the Moon Landings were done in the back lot of Hollywood. Not one player on the Australian or English sides who respects their averages (as all cricketers do) would let one wicket slip through their hands or one run be missed.
Regards David
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Peter. Aussies must learn to understand they cannot win the Ashes every time they play the poms if they did it would not be worth playing for.as the old say goes "what goes round comes round" so please dont get upset this time if you cannot regain the Ashes we have had it for may years off the skippies.
So i would like to wish you a merry Xmas & NewYear and i have enjoyed the banter
Cheers. :-))
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Hi Neil, are you pulling my leg? :o
Anyway, here's the Wikipedia definition, which is a lot better than the one I could give you {-) {-)
Sledging is a term used in cricket to describe the practice whereby some players seek to gain an advantage by insulting or verbally intimidating the opposing batsman. The purpose is to try to weaken the opponent's concentration, thereby causing him to make mistakes or underperform. It can be effective because the batsman stands within hearing range of the bowler and certain close fielders; and vice-versa. The insults may be direct or feature in conversations among fielders designed to be overheard.
It's all good clean fun.....mostly %) {-)
Think you will find out that the Aussies were called to book a few years ago when the supposed "Its all good clean fun" went to far and they over stepped the mark against India i think,if you speak to guys who go to the matches they will possibly tell you its used by the team who is not on top and they try and put the batsman off,the skippies used to describe it at one time as the "Twelth Man"
Peter.
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no honestly Peter.......I hadn't a clue........you know me, had I been trying to wind you up I would have left a cryptic at the end of my question..........but, no...had never heard that term before.
I tend to watch the cricket, rather than listen........the last thing I want to hear is the incesant drone of the bore of the century....geoff Boycott, and tend to have the sound off, and listen to music whilst watching
neil.
Mind you there are some fervant die hards on here giving their own "sledging" from what I have read, lol.......never mind.........its only a game, lol
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no honestly Peter.......I hadn't a clue........you know me, had I been trying to wind you up I would have left a cryptic at the end of my question..........but, no...had never heard that term before.
I tend to watch the cricket, rather than listen........the last thing I want to hear is the incesant drone of the bore of the century....geoff Boycott, and tend to have the sound off, and listen to music whilst watching
neil.
Mind you there are some fervant die hards on here giving their own "sledging" from what I have read, lol.......never mind.........its only a game, lol
Yep.You are dead right mate but it as been described as "Its all good fun "
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Yes chaps now come on lets have a bit of respect. Stumps will be pitched in less than 3 hours..............This is a cricketing thread. No room on here for boats and things.........Come on Strousy and his lads!! %% %% %% %% %% %% %% %%
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understood Footski no more Syd to Hob on this string :embarrassed:....my diversion was simply to stop the tension for 48 hours....come on Ausie :-)) O0 {-) {-) :P ....Derek
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As hard as it is for a Kiwi to say......................come on Ausie ;D
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As hard as it is for a Kiwi to say......................come on Ausie ;D
oooh !!! that had to be painful :-))
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Hi Neil, are you pulling my leg? :o
Anyway, here's the Wikipedia definition, which is a lot better than the one I could give you {-) {-)
Sledging is a term used in cricket to describe the practice whereby some players seek to gain an advantage by insulting or verbally intimidating the opposing batsman. The purpose is to try to weaken the opponent's concentration, thereby causing him to make mistakes or underperform. It can be effective because the batsman stands within hearing range of the bowler and certain close fielders; and vice-versa. The insults may be direct or feature in conversations among fielders designed to be overheard.
It's all good clean fun.....mostly %) {-)
Peter.
Pete,
You trying to stir up the poms off the field as well as on the field - I think you are out numbered on this site O0 O0
Mdu
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You trying to stir up the poms off the field as well as on the field - I think you are out numbered on this site O0 O0
No, Martin, I'm not trying to stir anyone up, I'm just trying to have a sensible discussion about the Ashes O0. Footski and I have been doing it in a friendly manner for a couple of Ashes series, but some others seem to adopt a different approach. As I said before, it's all good fun.
BTW, I believe that showers are forecast for Melbourne - I hope play is not interrupted.
Peter.
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Where else but Melbourne would you get 91,000 going in person to watch the cricket?
It's a sellout.
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91000 people saw Australia rolled for JUST 98 the Hobart under 12's at least got 105 haha come on the Poms tassie48
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My grandson gave me an England cricket shirt for Christmas, must have been a good Oman, come on England, what a great start to 2011 if we retain the ashes.
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Where else but Melbourne would you get 91,000 going in person to watch the cricket?
It's a sellout.
Sell out it may have been but at the end of the day there was not an Aussie spectator to be seen!! {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
What a days cricket. It simply does not get any better than this for English fans.......Now lets wait for the backlash!! %% %% %%
Peter.........Peter.............Peter where are you my friend????? %) %) %)
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Ohhh !!!! true joy, lol %% %% %% %% %%
I once had a beer glass thown at me in a bar in Canberra, when I inocuously asked two die hard ozz supporters, that if they thought that their team was so good why did they have a sheilahh playing for them???
when they asked what the h*** I was on about............I said well.....this sheilahh called LILIAN THOMPSOM......... that we hear about from the commentators all the time......must be a crab team matey............
I beat a hasty retreat, lol {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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My grandson gave me an England cricket shirt for Christmas, must have been a good Oman, come on England, what a great start to 2011 if we retain the ashes.
I didn't know they played cricket in Oman, bit sandy ennit...... %)
Dave
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they play on concrete wickets at Captain's Flat, NSW, never mind sand, lol %% %% %%
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BTW, I believe that showers are forecast for Melbourne - I hope play is not interrupted.
Peter.
The way the Aussies are playing - we need it to rain for the next 4 days - the poms bowled exceptionally well today whilst the Aussies were on a rest break - all out for 98 - what a joke....
Forecast is for improving Weather - should hit 38, C by Saturday...
Honestly, I don't think the Aussies have a hope in hell of regaining the ashes...but we can only hope O0 O0 O0
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Heard the ,,all out while at Manchester airport ,,they must have had a few there ,,cricket supporters ,,cos there was a huge shout went up ,,this morning at radio 5
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Barry, I'm still here, but hurting badly <:( I did say in an earlier post that I couldn't pick the winner in a one horse race, and my form continues :D The Australian performance was absolutely woeful :embarrassed:, whereas Strauss and Cook showed us how it should be done. The England bowlers were superb, while the Aussie bowlers were lucky to land the ball on the pitch.
I really thought that Australia would go well in Melbourne after their great dispaly in Perth, but it just goes to show how much I know {:-{. The chances of rain saving us are slim to none, according to the weather forecast.
Neil, I wish we had that Lillian Thompson playing for us now {-) BTW, Concrete wickets are quite common in country areas, especially where the climate is dry. At least they have a consistent bounce :}
Uncle Albert is right when he says "what goes around comes around" Australia was at the top for a long time and England were struggling. Now the wheel has turned full circle, and it's our turn to suffer and, let me tell you, I'm suffering O0.
Now all we have to look forward to is the press calling for the sacking of the selectors, the captain, the players, even the Prime Minister and the Governor General >>:-(
Oh, well, there's always the English football to watch, at least I don't care who wins those matches (except for Chelsea and Man U, I particularly don't care who beats either of them :o {-) )
Peter.
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I reckon that this test result is good for Australian Cricket. It has been going along for so long with the basic same team because they did not want to change a winning team. A lot of good players who would have been great test players have not had a chance to wear the baggy green and have had to play out their careers in First Class Cricket (State sides) because the incumbents had a firm grasp on their positions. A classic example is during Shane Warnes tenure as the spinner there were a whole lot of spinners who were of Test standard who never got to play Test level and have since retired. Unfortunately it is a case of selectors picking the sides on reputations of past glories and not on form.
Regards David
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bigfella,
You can't call it a result yet!!!!!! Only one day gone and we are celebrating the time of miracles at the moment (Xmas), so maybe, just maybe there is a little hope left!! %% %% %% %% %%
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This is the time I'm so glad I'm a Pom %% %%
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You can't call it a result yet!!!!!! Only one day gone and we are celebrating the time of miracles at the moment (Xmas), so maybe, just maybe there is a little hope left!!
Not much hope for us, Barry, England 2/196 <:( I wish it was raining as much in Melbourne as it is here, over 6 inches in the last 3 days, and still raining >>:-( Brisbane has had even more, I believe.
An area just to the north west of Mackay, in tropical north Queensland, has had over 800mm (32 inches) in 5 days, which is more than Melbourne has had all year :o
Peter.
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You can't call it a result yet!!!!!! Only one day gone and we are celebrating the time of miracles at the moment (Xmas), so maybe, just maybe there is a little hope left!! %% %% %% %% %%
Guaranteed whatever the result there will be changes for the Sydney test and then after that the question will be asked of Ponting and some others. I am a Ponting fan and still think he has the ability to captain the side but only if he drops down the order. Number 3 is supposed to be for your best batsman and Ponting at the moment is not that.
Regards David
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I have to disagree with you about Ponting, David. He's a fine batsman who's having a dreadful slump in form but, in my opinion, has never been a good captain. He has made too many bad decisions in the past, and his field placings have often been quite puzzling. His behaviour on the field today was appalling, arguing with umpire, Aleem Dar about a decision that was obviously made correctly. TV replays, which can be seen by the players, clearly showed no contact with the ball, yet Ponting continued to argue with the official, much to the annoyance of the crowd. Perhaps the strain of losing, as well as underperforming, is getting to him, but there is no need for a national captain to behave in the manner he exhibited >>:-(. It does neither himself nor Australia's sporting reputation any favours >:-o
Australia is being comprehensively outplayed by a far superior team. Hopefully there will be some long term benefits, provided that the powers that be in Australian cricket learn from the lessons that are being given on the field. I live in hope O0
Peter.
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I have to disagree with you about Ponting, David. He's a fine batsman who's having a dreadful slump in form but, in my opinion, has never been a good captain. He has made too many bad decisions in the past, and his field placings have often been quite puzzling. His behaviour on the field today was appalling, arguing with umpire, Aleem Dar about a decision that was obviously made correctly. TV replays, which can be seen by the players, clearly showed no contact with the ball, yet Ponting continued to argue with the official, much to the annoyance of the crowd. Perhaps the strain of losing, as well as underperforming, is getting to him, but there is no need for a national captain to behave in the manner he exhibited >>:-(. It does neither himself nor Australia's sporting reputation any favours >:-o
Australia is being comprehensively outplayed by a far superior team. Hopefully there will be some long term benefits, provided that the powers that be in Australian cricket learn from the lessons that are being given on the field. I live in hope O0
I agree with you about the shamefull unsportsman like display today, I am sure we have not heard the last of it. I only hope that the selectors do not replace Ponting with Clarke especially in his current form.
Regards David
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I am saddened by Ponting's behaviour. He is a man I respect and admire very much and the game has been damaged by him today. He could well be looking at a ban for the 5th Test........ <:( <:(
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A fine of 40% of his match fee....Well he has been very lucky indeed. Even Gregg Chappell was calling for his head. Any way I hope that is the end of the matter and we can get back to the cricket.......Come on you Poms!!! %% %%
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I am saddened by Ponting's behaviour. He is a man I respect and admire very much and the game has been damaged by him today. He could well be looking at a ban for the 5th Test........ <:( <:(
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I too was a admirer of Ponting as a batsman but not one of the best captains the Aussies have bred,but i do think with the bat hes going through a bad patch as are some of his team mates,Why he through this tantrum today with the umpire is unbeleivable,whether not regaining the Ashes looming getting to him it was a very sad sight for his team mates,countrymen,cricket australia but i think this series might be the last for Ponting as captain and one or two more of the under achievers.
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I too was a admirer of Ponting as a batsman but not one of the best captains the Aussies have bred,but i do think with the bat hes going through a bad patch as are some of his team mates,Why he threw this tantrum today with the umpire is unbeleivable,whether not regaining the Ashes looming getting to him it was a very sad sight for his team mates,countrymen,cricket australia but i think this series might be the last for Ponting as captain and one or two more of the under achievers.
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Peter. Aussies must learn to understand they cannot win the Ashes every time they play the poms if they did it would not be worth playing for.as the old saying goes "what goes round comes around" so please dont get upset this time if you cannot regain the Ashes we have had it for may years off the skippies.
So i would like to wish you a merry Xmas & NewYear and i have enjoyed the banter
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No one could say that the Melbourne test was rigged because no one could deliberately play as badly as Australia have in this test. Congrats to the poms as they have played a better brand of cricket and almost certain to retain the Ashes. Well done. I can see rebuilding for the Aussie team just like the Alan Border days. And although Hussey is a little older he should be given the Captaincy after Ponting and until Clarke gets his form back.
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Yes, it was another great day for English Cricket. I do feel sorry for Ponting. It is not his fault that he no longer has McGrath and Warne, to name just two. A man who has served his country so well and is probably one of the top 6 or 7 batsmen the world has ever seen should not be ridiculed the way the Aussie Press are doing. I think I preferred it when they were having a go at us. Now is the time for Australian Cricket to unite and come out fighting..
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One thing you can say about Cricket Australia is they give a player time to fit in to a side. I do recall some great English players in the past who have had only one or two tests to prove themselves before not being seen ever again.
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No one could say that the Melbourne test was rigged because no one could deliberately play as badly as Australia have in this test. Congrats to the poms as they have played a better brand of cricket and almost certain to retain the Ashes. Well done. I can see rebuilding for the Aussie team just like the Alan Border days. And although Hussey is a little older he should be given the Captaincy after Ponting and until Clarke gets his form back.
Regards David
Totally agree with you David - the ashes will remain in the UK and well deserved at that.
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I am sorry to say it, but us Poms want nothing less than another victory. Winning the series is as important as retaining the Ashes. Not since 86 have we managed that in Oz... :-)) :-))
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Australias domination of world cricket as long gone as did the West Indies domination did, they will have to rebuild like we had to do,dont know if there is any young and up and coming youngsters coming through in Australia Peter possibly might be able to enlighten us on that one.
As for a new captain i agree with one of the other posts that it should go to Mike Hussey truely a great cricketer but age is not on his side,we are told by the tabloids in the UK that Micheal Clarke is not that popular in the Aussie dressing room so making him captain might not be the right way to go,we also get print from the tabloids that alls not well with Aussie selectors on slection matters again Peter might be able to confirm this.
I dread to think what would G.Mcrath.Dennis Lillie.G.Thompson.think of the fast bowlers Aussies have at the moment.
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Australias domination of world cricket as long gone as did the West Indies domination did, they will have to rebuild like we had to do,dont know if there is any promising up and coming youngsters coming through in Australia Peter possibly might be able to enlighten us on that one.
As for a new captain i agree with one of the other posts that it should go to Mike Hussey truely a great cricketer but age is not on his side,we are told by the tabloids in the UK that Micheal Clarke is not that popular in the Aussie dressing room so making him captain might not be the right way to go,we also get print from the tabloids that alls not well with Aussie selectors on slection matters again Peter might be able to confirm this.
I dread to think what would G.Mcrath.Dennis Lillie.G.Thompson.think of the fast bowlers Aussies have at the moment.
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Martin,
I am sorry to say it, but us Poms want nothing less than another victory. Winning the series is as important as retaining the Ashes. Not since 86 have we managed that in Oz... :-)) :-))
Barry,
I would expect nothing less from the Poms - also go a long way in muting speculation of a fixed series. The English side is far superior in batting and bowling as Australia had not recovered with so many greats retiring in a short space of time.
Now with this thrashing hopefully the Aussie Cricket Board may see the light as pointed out to them by Merv Hughes. Merv (sacked by the selection team) constantly complained that is was crazy sending the boys overseas playing ODI matches whilst the UK side was in OZ playing practice Test matches,,,,...HOW DUM IS THAT
Personally, I don't care if the Poms win the ashes this time round - I'm just dissappointed seeing the Aussies play so poorly although it is keeping in line with the whole of 2010.
Started a new job in November - 3 weeks later on the job, crushed both legs and badly breaking one. Whilst in Hospital, my mother fell and injured her leg - ended up in hospital for a day. On return home found the back door broken in half the the house robbed including the nephews Christmas Presents.......
Will be glad to see the back end of 2010 - has not been a good year...
Anyhow, once more I would just like to congratulate the Poms on a much deserved win - you deserve it...
Till next time, hopefully both sides will be more evenly matched - then we can have some fun...
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Martin.Playing the ODIs might have something to do with a "A few dollars more"hope you get patched up and be up and running pretty quick. "Happy New Year"
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Playing the ODIs might have something to do with a "A few dollars more"
You have never said a truer word. The ODIs and 20/20 games are big crowd pullers, and therefore earn the powers that be LOTS of money, often at the expense of quality cricket. The Sheffield Shield competition, played between the states, is our primary training ground for cricketers to play the long form of the game at a higher level. Unfortunately it doesn't attract crowds, so that's why we have so many matches of the 50 or 20 over variety. These do attract bigger attendances, especially the 20 over games.
Australia has plenty of young cricketers coming up through the system, but they need to be given a fair chance. Too often they have been selected for the test team, had a poor performance, and then have promptly been dropped. Aussie selectors need to get it through their thick skulls that, while new players are gaining experience, we will lose matches. That's the price we will have to pay for these youngsters to learn what test cricket is all about. But what do I know, I'm only an ignorant cricket tragic %)
Martin, I'm sorry to hear of your misfortune, and I hope you are soon back to full health :-))
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Congratulations to England on wining the Melbourne game and retaining the Ashes. Australia still have some great cricketers in their side they are just not working as a team, they also need to find a decent spin bowler just having a seam attack is not going to work.
Brian
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A great day for English Cricket.......but.....the job is not done yet. We need to keep the pressure on and try to win the series in Sydney. Australia are hurting now and are sure to come at us hard next week.
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Why do we need a football team, we are no good at that game and never will be while we have so many foreign players and managers in the premiership.
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Absolutely a great day for english cricket,and you have to also give credit to all the backroom staff and not forgetting the "Barmy Army" what support they are fantastic.
My only disappointment today was to read in todays "Sun" what a Melbourne upmarket newspaper "The Melbourne Age" had written about KP i thought it might have be more suitable for RP.
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Well done England :-)) Australia were outplayed in every aspect of the game by a much superior team. Most of the focus here has been on Australia's poor performance, but I think not enough credit has been given to the quality of a very well balanced England side.
Chingdevil is right in saying that Australia need to find a reliable spin bowler, especially for Sydney, which is traditionally a spinner's paradise O0.
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Thats the cricket sorted now the Rugby and football, not forgeting the Olympics {-)
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One match to go, a very important match and no Ricky Ponting... :(( :((
Yes he has been sidelined because of further damage to his finger or that is what they say. Clarke is taking over as Captain for the fourth test and USMAN Khawaja is to take the first drop position vacated by Ponting. Bollinger is in the side but will almost certainly carry the drinks as the only spinner in the side Beer will have to get a start on a spinners wicket. This will be a chance for Australia to play for some pride and a look at Clarkes style as captain. I still think Hussey should have been given the captaincy for at least this test.
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Yes he has been sidelined because of further damage to his finger or that is what they say. Clarke is taking over as Captain for the fourth test and USMAN Khawaja is to take the first drop position vacated by Ponting. Bollinger is in the side but will almost certainly carry the drinks as the only spinner in the side Beer will have to get a start on a spinners wicket. This will be a chance for Australia to play for some pride and a look at Clarkes style as captain. I still think Hussey should have been given the captaincy for at least this test.
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I suppose we have to say well done to England for winning that...bat and ball thingy...Down Under,
Sports fans south of the border will see it as consolation for England,s World Cup debacle,
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134 for 4 (or 4 for 134 :-) ) is not too good at all, but the one bright spot is Usman Khawaja's knock. He has just about scored more in his first test than Ponting has all series, and played some great shots as well. Unfortunately, the weather has been somewhat erratic, so I hope it clears to allow the game to go on uninterrupted from here on.
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/australia-to-recall-booze-and-strippers-201012093335/
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I originally started this topic to have a good natured discussion about the Ashes series but, unfortunately, some people are not capable of replying in a friendly manner. I have always regarded the sporting rivalry between Australia and England as an amicable one, but some feel it necessary to make derogatory, supposedly funny, remarks. Fortunately, the vast majority also look upon the rivalry as friendly, and don't feel the need for ridiculous or inflammatory comments.
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/australia-to-recall-booze-and-strippers-201012093335/
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I was trying to find the link about Ponting getting a gong in new year honours for services to English Cricket, but I seem to have lost it somewhere, But thought that would put a smile on a few faces
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Johnson and Hilfenhaus are delaying the Poms from and early batting session - ahhh 8 for 230 at lunch - starve the poms a bit longer
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I originally started this topic to have a good natured discussion about the Ashes series but, unfortunately, some people are not capable of replying in a friendly manner. I have always regarded the sporting rivalry between Australia and England as an amicable one, but some feel it necessary to make derogatory, supposedly funny, remarks. Fortunately, the vast majority also look upon the rivalry as friendly, and don't feel the need for ridiculous or inflammatory comments.
Peter.
I totally agree Peter and long may it last..... ok2 ok2 ok2 ok2
Any way close of play and the game is evenly balanced, thanks to Pieterson's stupid attempted hook, 4 overs from the end. He may just have handed the initiative back to Australia. Tomorrow should be a great days cricket. Come on you Poms.. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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I blame myself for Australia's poor show in the Ashes. Every year when sides tour I always pray for them to do well so we have some competition instead of a test only lasting 3 days. I did it again this time and I think that it went a little to far. Oh bring back the days when Australia would rap up a test in three days and only have to bat once. Sorry Australia I think it is my fault :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:.
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My opinion of the Barmy Army has changed. Whilst listening to the cricket on the way home from hospital, the commentators said that the Barmy Army made a large contribution to the "McGrath Foundation"
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Well with a lead over over 200 and four wickets left, albeit a little controversially!!!! I do not think Australia can pull this one out of the fire..
I am going to relax now and enjoy the next couple of days...
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Cricket??? What cricket?? Is there cricket on, Barry? {-) {-)
Silly me, of course there is, I watched a 20/20 game between South Australia and New South Wales the other night, and very entertaining it was, too. The crowd was ducking for cover as West Indian, Kieron Pollard, playing for SA, kept hitting sixes.
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Hey Pete,
Did you hear the results of the other game over in Perth. Our girls are playing the Poms in an ODI series - Australia won by 33 runs. England 9/151 and Aussies 7/194 - the Aussies are 1 up in the series - GO GIRLS :-)) :-))
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Hey Pete,
Did you hear the results of the other game over in Perth. Our girls are playing the Poms in an ODI series - Australia won by 33 runs. England 9/151 and Aussies 7/194 - the Aussies are 1 up in the series - GO GIRLS :-)) :-))
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I just wondered why the Australians call the British, "Poms" After all it is they that claim their Ancestors were " Prisoners of His Majesty" How nice to beable to say, " My Great grandfather/ Mother was a convicted criminal! Still it is I suppose like Inverted Snobbery orZero Achievers. Modern. ( Juck)
I was only being cynical about throwing a game, I cannot imagine any of the current Teams doing that.
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I do not want to digress too far from this thread but I am not sure POM came from being transported, I am sure I have read somewhere that the origin is unknown and until 2006 was classed a derogatory remark. Then Australian Advertising Agency decided it was not, and has allowed it in adverts since then.
Nordsee
Three of my ancestors went to Australia on their own and two went via the Old Bailey :-))
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I do not want to digress too far from this thread but I am not sure POM came from being transported, I am sure I have read somewhere that the origin is unknown and until 2006 was classed a derogatory remark. Then Australian Advertising Agency decided it was not, and has allowed it in adverts since then.
Nordsee
Three of my ancestors went to Australia on their own and two went via the Old Bailey :-))
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Correct my recollection is the term is "Pommie" and has now been shortened to a term of endermeant <:( <:( <*< <*<
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Sexist diversionary tactics me thinks?????
Oh an we taught weed let the sheilas ave a go while da blokes took a break 8) 8) 8) 8)
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It sounds to me that Peter and MDU are getting desperate to see a cricket match where Australia are not losing, go England
How did you guess? :o {-)
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There has been much discussion over the origin of the term, "Pom" or "Pommie". One theory is that it derives from "Pomegranate", because newly arrived English people were often burned red by the hot Aussie sun, leading to claims that their faces resembled pomegranates. Another theory is as Nordsee suggests, an acronym from Prisoners of His Majesty". I don't think anyone really knows.
Whatever the origin, it is certainly no more derogatory than referring to New Zealanders as Kiwis, Americans as Yanks, or even Australians as Aussies.
Many English still think of Aussies as being descendants of convicts, and a small number of the population can claim that "distinction", but the vast majority, myself included, are descended from free settlers. What also needs to be remembered is many of the convicts were deported, by an extremely harsh penal system, for very minor crimes, including stealing bread to feed their starving families.
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Many English still think of Aussies as being descendants of convicts, and a small number of the population can claim that "distinction", but the vast majority, myself included, are descended from free settlers. What also needs to be remembered is many of the convicts were deported, by an extremely harsh penal system, for very minor crimes, including stealing bread to feed their starving families.
If you can trace your ancestry back to convicts you are considered Australian Nobility and if you can trace it back to the first fleet well you are Royalty.
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Peter.....the [paper work copies] of the convict Trials of ye Olde Baily were bought out to Sydney Cove by a First Fleet vessel........scanned copy pages are available on Microfish viewer at The Mitchell Library in Sydney....
My dear old mum confirmed that this was how so many Australians were able to accurately trace their direct decendents...as many free settlers records were not carefully recorded
What is more interesting is that John Nichols was sentenced in the Olde Baily to be transported to the Americas & spent a few years in the rotting hulks of ships on the Thames, prior to being reclassified as OZ material..... :embarrassed: ....Derek :-))
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bigfella.....you could now address sir_derek_of_decocy if you wish.... %% >:-o :P...as a direct decendent of John Nichols.......a convict sent aboard HMS Scarbourough of the first fleet to OZ
Yes your Highness, pardon me I did not know your were of such lineage :embarrassed: {-) {-) {-). But it is something that you can trace that far back and know that your family have been here since it was first settled.
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Peter.....the [paper work copies] of the convict Trials of ye Olde Baily were bought out to Sydney Cove by a First Fleet vessel........scanned copy pages are available on Microfish viewer at The Mitchell Library in Sydney....
My dear old mum confirmed that this was how so many Australians were able to accurately trace their direct decendents...as many free settlers records were not carefully recorded
What is more interesting is that John Nichols was sentenced in the Olde Baily to be transported to the Americas & spent a few years in the rotting hulks of ships on the Thames, prior to being reclassified as OZ material..... :embarrassed: ....Derek :-))
It's OK mate them's the breaks, we won't hold it against ya, nuff said she's apples. :-X :-X :-X :-X
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Well done England a record series victory. A long awaited great day for England Cricket fans.. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Well hopefully 9 games for the Oz cricket team to learn the sporting side of the game including applauding 50s and centuries which is the one sad thing about this series. The complete lack of grace of the Aussie team which they have previously always had has been very sad to see. So sad that the team cant take defeat as gracioulsy as the Aussie fans.
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I know its not cricket but I had the privalage to be in Sydney when we "poms" won the rugby a few years back we were in a pub down by darling harbour drinking and eatin watching the game bar was full of Oz Blokes talk about freindly me and the missus was on the recieving end of great Oz hospitality that day just hope the same thing go`s on over the cricket after all its only a small urn :-))
well done the Poms (again)
great thread by the way Peter, thanks for the laughs
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As I said the average aussie fan is so gracious and hospitable but the manners stop there and dont go on to the Team or others connected. Talking of the rugby world cup I always remember the presenting 'dignitary' the Oz PM was handing out the medals. Probably the most surly ungracious presentation anyone has ever seen. Looked like he was chewing a mouthful of wasps.
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He looked like that all the time {-) {-) {-)
Well done to England in retaining the Ashes 3-1, and all the wins by an innings :-)) I will just have to remember England's 5-0 humiliation the last time they were here :D
I was stunned to read, in this morning's paper, chairman of selectors, Andrew Hilditch's statement that the selectors had done a very good job picking the Aussie team. If that's true then I'm very pleased that they didn't do a bad job. Hilditch said that he could not take any responsibility for Australia's poor performance. I wonder if he thinks that anyone will believe him?
The Australian selectors are Andrew Hilditch, who only played 18 tests, and had a very poor record; he was a compulsive hooker, and was frequently caught while attempting the hook shot. David Boon, who played 108 tests, scoring 7,422 runs at an average of 43.65. He is also known for setting a record for drinking 52 cans of beer on a flight from Sydney to London. Greg Chappel, former Australian captain who played 87 tests with a batting average of over 57, but who has a poor coaching record, and Jamie Cox, who never represented his country in any form of the game.
I realise that performance on the field is not always necessary to be a good selector, but since the current lot have been in the job, Australian cricket results have gone rapidly down hill. Perhaps Cricket Australia need to look at the selectors first, when analysing our team's dreadful showing.
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G'Day Barry,
I meant the end of the Ashes - we didn't lose the Ashes - we were attempting (what a joke) to get them back off the Poms (Englishmen). And besides, it's only a replica as you lot will not let us have the REAL urn. {-) {-) {-) {-)
I'm waiting for Pete to come up with a new Topic Title for the next lot of games.
Barry, no offence has been taken over the comments during the Test Series - I think it has been taken with great spirit and gusto from both sides of the Big Blue Pond, and yes, we should keep it going for the ODI series. At least you have a result at the end of day's play. %) %)
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I realise that performance on the field is not always necessary to be a good selector, but since the current lot have been in the job, Australian cricket results have gone rapidly down hill. Perhaps Cricket Australia need to look at the selectors first, when analysing our team's dreadful showing.
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AGREE WITH YOU WHOLE HEARTEDLY ON THIS PETE - Our problem in this series was all BEHIND the scenes... :-)) :-)) :-))
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I think it has been taken with great spirit and gusto from both sides of the Big Blue Pond,
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Dare I hope for better results in the ODIs and 20/20 matches? {:-{
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Dare I hope for better results in the ODIs and 20/20 matches? {:-{
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I believe so, Martin.
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Do the Australian team practice against bowlers, or do they just practice against a bowling machine?
Now when I played Cricket for Surfers Paradise CC (12th man for the 4th Division in a 4 division comp) The bowlers in the side would bowl at the batsmen. Now this does seem to make clear why most bowlers cant bat. One would assume by our poor show in the Ashes that Australia have been using a bowling machine or the under 12Bs bowlers in the nets. Thank heavens that in the ODIs and 20/20s that it is usually the batsman who get themselves out with a wild shot.
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I think your wish will come true Barry >>:-( and if so, further glory over the Aussies {:-{
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Martin,
Remember the strategy and tactics, the selectors fielded a poor team so the "Poms" would party on in gay abandon, which they did, thus boosting the economy. O0 O0 O0 %% %% %%
Now they are all fired up for another win but will be surprised at the next encounter. :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:
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Martin,
Remember the strategy and tactics, the selectors fielded a poor team so the "Poms" would party on in gay abandon, which they did, thus boosting the economy. O0 O0 O0 %% %% %%
Now they are all fired up for another win but will be surprised at the next encounter. :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:
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Topic tidied up - it is supposed to be about cricket.
Peter Fitness,
Moderator.
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Come on Pete - what's your predictions for the 20/20 and ODI O0 starting Wednesday %)
Martin du,
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Topic tidied up - it is supposed to be about cricket.
Moderator.
Demarcation, everyone out, demarcation {-) {-) {-). You cant moderate your own thread {-) {-) {-).
Only joking. I do think we will do well in the shorter styles of the game. Less time to think about form and just go the tonk. More medium pace bowling and containment then shear pace.
Regards David
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Demarcation, everyone out, demarcation {-) {-) {-). You cant moderate your own thread {-) {-) {-).
It's my party and I'll cry if I want to %) Well, I did start it David, and it is supposed to be about cricket, so I just did some house keeping O0 :}
Martin, fancy asking me for a prediction after my last debacle {-), however, I think we may just beat England in both the T20 and ODIs. I won't be putting any money on the result, though, given my previous record :(( Nevertheless, I'm an eternal optimist ok2
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It's my party and I'll cry if I want to %) Well, I did start it David, and it is supposed to be about cricket, so I just did some house keeping O0 :}
Martin, fancy asking me for a prediction after my last debacle {-), however, I think we may just beat England in both the T20 and ODIs. I won't be putting any money on the result, though, given my previous record :(( Nevertheless, I'm an eternal optimist ok2
Peter.
Good stuff Pete,
a). needed to get the thread back on the cricket, and
b). thought I would give you a second chance :-))
Martin du
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subject on track.... O0
1. if only our ex-PM John Howard :-)) had been appointed to a Senior position within the ACB
2. none of this white wash would have happened
3. the defeat today of the PM's eleven confirms it all
4. bring back John Howard O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
5. >>:-( <*< <:( to any of you distractors ...................Derek %)
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Barry is here Martin...
Another easy victory last night. When are you guys going to give us a game????? %% %% %% %%
Oops, I think that is asking for trouble..
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When are you guys going to give us a game?
We're just lulling you into a false sense of security %) {-)
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'1. if only our ex-PM John Howard had been appointed to a Senior position within the ACB'
Would this be the same 'sporting John Howard' who threw his dollies out of the pram when Australia lost at the Rugby World Cup Final and literally grunted and threw the medals at the English Team with bad grace? A true gentleman and sportsman.
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It would appear that Brad Haddin is the first player to have a go at the Australian selectors. He has been dropped for the 20/20 in favor of Tim Paine. Now I thought that Haddin was best suited in the shorter styles of the game then tests. I really think the selectors are grasping at straws trying to find a quick fix to Australia's wows only they are five plus years too late. They should have been adding young and up coming cricketers in the side one or two at a time so they could benefit from the experienced players. It would appear that these same selectors think that just putting a whole new young team on the park will sort out the problem. Unfortunately they have not learned from the first few Alan Border days when we were the easybeats because we had a very inexperienced young side except for one or two players.
Regards David
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It would appear that Brad Haddin is the first player to have a go at the Australian selectors. He has been dropped for the 20/20 in favor of Tim Paine. Now I thought that Haddin was best suited in the shorter styles of the game then tests. I really think the selectors are grasping at straws trying to find a quick fix to Australia's wows only they are five plus years too late. They should have been adding young and up coming cricketers in the side one or two at a time so they could benefit from the experienced players. It would appear that these same selectors think that just putting a whole new young team on the park will sort out the problem. Unfortunately they have not learned from the first few Alan Border days when we were the easybeats because we had a very inexperienced young side except for one or two players.
Regards David
SWMBO TOTALLY agrees with you David.
Martin du and SWMBO keeping a close eye on this post O0 O0
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Barry is here Martin...
Another easy victory last night. When are you guys going to give us a game????? %% %% %% %%
Oops, I think that is asking for trouble..
G'Day Barry
Ahh. it's only the PM's eleven......can't really call that a game %% %%
SWMBO says hi as she reads this post more than I do.......
M & L doon under
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I can understand Brad Haddin's anger and frustration. Only a few days ago, chairman of selectors, Andrew Hilditch, rated Haddin as the best current Australian wicket keeper in all three forms of the game, then did not pick him :o I am at a loss to understand his reasoning if, in fact there was any reasoning. It's no wonder most Aussie cricket followers, and the press, are calling for the sacking of the selectors >>:-( <*< I think they (the selectors) must have backed England %) I am in no way denigrating Tim Paine, he is a fine young talent and, on current form, will inherit Haddin's job at some stage. At the moment, though, Haddin is the best available and should have been picked for the series against England.
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Hi Guys,
Martin say hello to your good lady for me.
Peter,
I watched much of the Presidents X1 game and thought Paine was only average at best with the gloves. Haddin is by far the better cricketer. As for that team they put out, I reckon we have some good amateur club sides who field better than they did..
Any way tomorrows game starts at 9am our time, so I will be able to watch it all live for a change.. :-)) :-)) :-))
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Guys,
There's a rumour that the selectors are ring ins. O0 O0 O0
How were they infiltrated, shock horror. %) %) %)
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No doubt about it, they will be back. In the meantime.............
Q: What is the main function of the Australia coach?
A: To transport the team from the hotel to the ground.
Q: What do you call an Australian with a champagne bottle in his hand?
A: A waiter.
Q: Who spends the most time on the crease of anyone in the Australian team?
A: The woman who ironed the cricket whites.
Q: Why don't Aussie fielders need pre-tour travel injections?
A: Because they never catch anything.
Q: What's the Aussie version of a hat trick?
A: Three runs in three balls.
Q: What do Aussie batsmen and drug addicts have in common?
A: Both spend most of their time wondering where their next score will come from.
Q: What is the most proficient form of footwork displayed by Australian batsmen?
A: The walk back to the pavilion.
Q: What did the spectator miss when he went to the toilet?
A: The entire Australian innings.
Q: What's the Australian version of LBW?
A: Lost, Beaten, Walloped.
Q: Why do Australians call their favourite drink XXXX?
A: Because they can't spell beer.
Q. What does Ponting put in his hands to make sure the next ball almost always takes a wicket?
A. A bat.
Q. What is the definition of optimism?
A. An Aussie batsman putting on sunscreen before going out to bat.
Q. What's the difference between and Aussie batsman and a formula 1 car?
A. Nothing! If you blink you'll miss both.
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No doubt about it, they will be back. In the meantime.............
Q: What is the main function of the Australia coach?
A: To transport the team from the hotel to the ground..
Q: What did the spectator miss when he went to the toilet?
A: The entire Australian innings.
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,........
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Mdu
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Very good....Still chuckling to myself.. {-) {-) %% %% {-) {-)
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Malcolm is not playing cricket {-) {-) {-)
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Malcolm is not playing cricket {-) {-) {-)
Very true, but it is still funny.....and cricket related!! :-)) :-)) :-))
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Just heard that the Womens 20/20 was played earlier today and it would seem that England won. This could become embarrassing. :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
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I reckon the English side should let us win this first game as it will give the Queenslanders something to smile about. Mind you, it's great to see the English players going around collecting for our flood victims.
Well Done Lads
Mdu
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ALMOST :-))
Damn good game - a real cliff hanger O0
Mdu
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A cliff hanger it was. A great advert for the game......Mind you, another record for the English,,,,,, 8 consecutive 20/20 wins.... :-)) :-)) :-))
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It was a nail biting finish and exciting to watch, but it just goes to show how out of touch with reality our selectors are >>:-( They recalled over-the-hill bowlers, Brett lee and Shaun Tait and what happened??? 80 runs taken off their combined 8 overs >:-o By contrast, Shane Watson took 4 for 13 off his allowed 4 overs, and nearly won the game for us. We have arguably one of the best 20/20 bowlers in the world, Victorian Dirk Nannes, whose record in 20/20 is outstanding, yet the selectors ignored him <*< Unless and until we get a new selection panel it seems we are destined to remain silver medallists O0
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Hey Pete, my wife agrees with you >:-o
Missus doon under
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Hey guys, I have had a word with the lads to go easy on you tomorrow.....We don't want your enthusiasm for the game dented too much!! %% {-)
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Hey guys, I have had a word with the lads to go easy on you tomorrow.....We don't want your enthusiasm for the game dented too much!! %% {-)
Ohhh...your sooo kind. %%
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Hi guys...just got back from a month in ozz.......was at the melbourne cricket ground on boxing day......oh what a wonderfuk thing to see and hear with the barmy army in full song.....even managed to bring back two programes of the slaughter....i mean match......
last words..............HO>>HO>>HO.....
regards....bob.
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I just keep remembering the 2006/7 series 5-0 {-) {-) {-) I have to, I want to forget this one <:( :embarrassed:
Peter.
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Well played Australia. At last a bit of spirit and fight.....Another good game... :-)) :-))
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Finally, a win over the old enemy :-)) We went close in the first 20/20 and managed a win in the second game...at last, something to cheer about O0 If Shaun Tait is picked for the ODIs then I will give up watching cricket and declare open season on the selectors {-)
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Peter,
I could not agree more with you. Here is a man of average ability, very quick, but only an average bowler, who has refused to play in the past. I cannot believe that the Selectors still consider him as suitable. Let someone play who is proud to play for Australia without conditions..
That said, with the way he sprays the ball about, it can only be good for England if he does get picked!! :-)) :-))
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AUSTRALIA'S PLAN REVEALED AT LAST!
The ASHES were only between 2 teams (England and Australia) and England put all their time and effort into winning that and have taken their eye off the real prize, whilst Australia it seems have kept their eye firmly on the golden prize!
In just a couple of weeks the real prize fight begins with the world cup where the best in the world will be playing not just a 2 horse race like the ashes.
In the ODI's (which of course Australia has just trounced the English side 6-1 leaving them to return home demoralized with their tail between their legs) Australia has shown the England side how the world champions play and have regained form just in time for the real showdown against all the best teams in the world.
Martin doon under
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Once upon a time the Aussies used to thrash England in the test matches and then relax and let England win the
one day matches.
Funny how things turn around, now it seems that the one day thrashes are what the colonists want to win. {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Hey guys, I have had a word with the lads to go easy on you tomorrow.....We don't want your enthusiasm for the game dented too much!! %% {-)
When I said "Go easy", I did not mean THAT easy!!!!!!!! >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
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It just proves that aussies cant realy play cricket.
im not going to say what they are good at, or ill get banned again
phill
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Or should that read the Aussies cant play REAL cricket. :} :} :}
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Cricket, cricket ,cricket did he say cricket
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It just proves that aussies cant really play cricket.
It's wonderful how some people conveniently forget what it's too painful for them to remember. In the period from 1989 to 2005, England and Australia played 43 tests, with Australia winning 28, England 7 and there were 8 drawn. All except one of England's wins came after the series had been decided. The 2005 series was narrowly won by England, including a 2 run victory in the second test, the smallest winning margin in Ashes history. Australia got its revenge at home in 2007 with a 5-0 whitewash, totally humiliating England but, to be fair, England had some promising young cricketers emerging.
Australia then had a period where many senior players retired and, due to extremely poor management and selection decisions, had virtually no young players with any experience at the top level. This lead to England, who had been through a successful rebuilding process, regaining the Ashes at home in 2009, then going on to crush Australia, in Australia (for the first time in 24 years) to retain the trophy. I don't think any of the above proves that Aussies can't really play cricket, or even play REAL cricket. It's also worth looking at the overall results of Ashes matches from 1882 to the present time. During that period, which covers the whole existence of the Ashes, Australia has won 123, England 100, with 87 drawn. Not bad for a country which can't play real cricket.
To their credit, as Martin doon under kindly pointed out, Australia rallied to totally humiliate England in the one day series 6-1. True, England suffered injuries to a number of key players, but Australia also had injury worries, and some of the top players were rested. England's heavy defeat has come at a very bad time because, with the Cricket World Cup only days away, their confidence has taken a battering, and confidence is a big part of good cricket performance.
In summary, England was by far the better side in the tests, but Australia turned the tables in the ODIs. From an Aussie point of view, the emergence of some very promising young players in the domestic competition, and the performances of established players such as Shane Watson and Mike Hussey, to name but two, gives us hope for the future. I just hope that that Cricket Australia nurtures the youngsters in the right way, and that the selectors do their job properly. If this happens, then Australia will once again take its rightful place at the top of world cricket.
Peter.
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Dear Peter
Just speaking for myself I have NEVER had any confidence in Englands one day performances.
From the seventies when cricket was dragged into the 20th century by Packer, England have
never really played the shortened game with the confidence shown by Australia and the countries of the sub continent.
Dragging defeat from the jaws of victory is the way England play one day cricket. No one was more surprised than me when we won
the 20/20 world cup.
As for the Ashes, we don't win them often, only 3 times ( 70/71, 86/87, 10/11 ) on Aussie soil in my lifetime.
Regards
Richard
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Richard, what a lot of people don't understand is that the Ashes series between England and Australia should not be treated as a matter of life and death......it's much more important than that {-) {-)
The shorter versions of the game are certainly very popular here, although the Ashes tests attracted very big crowds, far bigger than tests against say, India, Pakistan or even South Africa. It's the old rivalry of the young colony against the mother country O0
The recently completed 20/20 domestic series between the states, called the KFC Big Bash (guess who it was sponsored by %)) attracted very large crowds, and saw some exciting cricket. One aspect of that series that pleased me, as a NSW supporter, was the youth of the NSW side, particularly the bowling attack. Patrick Cummins, a tall fast (in excess of 140kph) bowler aged 17, Sean Abbott, also quite quick aged 18, Luke Doran, left arm spinner, aged 19, and Steven Smith, all rounder aged 21. It's great to see these young men being given a chance to represent their state at such an early age, but they will need to be handled carefully. NSW is not the only state to field younger players, so I believe that the future of the game here, in all its forms, is looking rosy.
The results of the Big Bash can be seen here http://cricket.com.au/kfctwenty20bigbash1011 (http://cricket.com.au/kfctwenty20bigbash1011)
Peter.
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Much good sense in what Peter says. I spent yesterday at the WACA hoping that England might at least win the last match. They didn't even put up a good show :(( Apart from a very clever bit of thinking on the run by Steve Finn when he took a catch on the boundary, realised he'd fall over the rope holding the bvall (no catch) and threw it up, recovered himself, got back inside the rope and recaught the ball to complete the catch I didn't think I'd had my money's worth!
Anyway, back to the UK winter in less than a week >:-o
Guy
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Just a little off the cricket thread wideawake..........
All OZ members hope you have enjoyed your stay down here with us........Derek :-))
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Richard, what a lot of people don't understand is that the Ashes series between England and Australia should not be treated as a matter of life and death......it's much more important than that {-) {-)
The shorter versions of the game are certainly very popular here, although the Ashes tests attracted very big crowds, far bigger than tests against say, India, Pakistan or even South Africa. It's the old rivalry of the young colony against the mother country O0
The recently completed 20/20 domestic series between the states, called the KFC Big Bash (guess who it was sponsored by %)) attracted very large crowds, and saw some exciting cricket. One aspect of that series that pleased me, as a NSW supporter, was the youth of the NSW side, particularly the bowling attack. Patrick Cummins, a tall fast (in excess of 140kph) bowler aged 17, Sean Abbott, also quite quick aged 18, Luke Doran, left arm spinner, aged 19, and Steven Smith, all rounder aged 21. It's great to see these young men being given a chance to represent their state at such an early age, but they will need to be handled carefully. NSW is not the only state to field younger players, so I believe that the future of the game here, in all its forms, is looking rosy.
The results of the Big Bash can be seen here http://cricket.com.au/kfctwenty20bigbash1011 (http://cricket.com.au/kfctwenty20bigbash1011)
Peter.
Peter,
Wise words indeed my friend....
That said........140kph means absolutely nothing to most of us from the Mother Country. We still use mph and as such need a converter to find out what you really mean!! {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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140kph means absolutely nothing to most of us from the Mother Country. We still use mph and as such need a converter to find out what you really mean!!
B1**dy fast. Especially for a hand - launched missile.
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Just a little off the cricket thread wideawake..........
All OZ members hope you have enjoyed your stay down here with us........Derek :-))
Many thanks Derek. Yes we're having a brilliant time and will be sorry to leave next w/e. Lazy day around Freo today. Lunch with friends from when they hired a narrow boat in the UK tomorrow followed by ttwilight sail from Freo yacht club .
Guy
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Come on Barry, it's time you lot joined the 21st century {-), we've been using metric since 1966 O0
1 kilometre per hour = 0.621371192 mph, therefore, 140 kph equals almost 87 mph :D In other words, fairly quick %%
Living in Spain as you do, I'm sure you know the metric system :-)
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Living in Spain as you do, I'm sure you know the metric system :-)
Peter.
Could explain why being booked for speeding, if read it as MPH %) %) %) %) %) %)
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Ouch......Thanks for reminding me.......It still hurts.... {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( :police: :police: :police: :police: :police:
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No doubt about it, they will be back. In the meantime.............
Q: What is the main function of the Australia coach?
A: To transport the team from the hotel to the ground.
Q: What do you call an Australian with a champagne bottle in his hand?
A: A waiter.
Q: Who spends the most time on the crease of anyone in the Australian team?
A: The woman who ironed the cricket whites.
Q: Why don't Aussie fielders need pre-tour travel injections?
A: Because they never catch anything.
Q: What's the Aussie version of a hat trick?
A: Three runs in three balls.
Q: What do Aussie batsmen and drug addicts have in common?
A: Both spend most of their time wondering where their next score will come from.
Q: What is the most proficient form of footwork displayed by Australian batsmen?
A: The walk back to the pavilion.
Q: What did the spectator miss when he went to the toilet?
A: The entire Australian innings.
Q: What's the Australian version of LBW?
A: Lost, Beaten, Walloped.
Q: Why do Australians call their favourite drink XXXX?
A: Because they can't spell beer.
Q. What does Ponting put in his hands to make sure the next ball almost always takes a wicket?
A. A bat.
Q. What is the definition of optimism?
A. An Aussie batsman putting on sunscreen before going out to bat.
Q. What's the difference between and Aussie batsman and a formula 1 car?
A. Nothing! If you blink you'll miss both.
And so it continues with revised updated current listing.
What do you get if you cross the Australian cricket team with an Oxo cube?
A laughing stock.
The Australian bobsleigh team have asked the Aussie cricket team for a meeting.
They want to ask their advice about going downhill so fast!
What’s the difference between Ricky Ponting and a funeral director?
A funeral director doesn’t keep losing the ashes.
Did you hear what the stump microphones picked up when The Ashes skippers tossed the coin on Boxing Day?
Andrew Strauss called correctly and, quick as a flash, said to Ricky Ponting: “You lads can bat.’’
Just as quick, Ponting replied: “No, we can’t.. We really can’t.”
What do you call an Australian with a champagne bottle in his hand?
A waiter.
Of everyone in the Aussie team, who spends the most time at the crease?
The woman who irons their cricket whites.
What’s the height of optimism? An Aussie batsman putting on sunscreen.
Why did the Aussie break his leg throwing a ball?
He forgot it was chained to his foot.
What is the main function of the Australia coach?
To transport the team from the hotel to the ground.
On his way out into the middle to bat, Ricky Ponting gets a call from his wife and teammate Michael Hussey tells her he’s heading out to the middle.
His wife replies: “I’ll hold, he won’t be long!”
What’s the difference between an Aussie batsman and a Formula 1 car?
Nothing! If you blink you’ll miss them both.
Who has the easiest job in the Australian squad?
The guy who removes the red ball marks from the bats.
What do Aussie batsmen and drug addicts have in common?
Both spend most of their time wondering where their next score will come from.
What did the spectator miss when he went to the toilet?
The entire Australian innings.
What’s the Australian version of LBW?
Lost, Beaten, Walloped.
Why is Ricky Ponting cleverer than Houdini?
Because he can get out without even trying.
What does Ricky Ponting put in his hands to make sure the next ball is almost certainly going to be a wicket?
A bat.
What do you call a cricket field full of Australians ?
A vacant lot.
Why do Australians call their favourite drink XXXX?
Because they can’t spell beer.
Why can’t Australian blokes take their girlfriends to the cricket?
They eat all the grass.
What does an Australian batsman who is playing in The Ashes have in common with Michael Jackson?
They both wore gloves for no apparent reason.
Heard the one about the Englishman who was stopped by Australian immigration officers at Sydney airport?
They asked him if he had a criminal record.
He replied: “I didn’t know it was still necessary..”
What’s the difference between Ricky Ponting and a phoenix?
At the end of the ashes, the phoenix still has a future
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Mdu......I like em!
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Brilliant, but watch out for them in the World Cup....They could just go and win it again!! :-) :-)
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Brilliant, but watch out for them in the World Cup....They could just go and win it again!! :-) :-)
One can only hope, Barry O0
Peter.
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One can only hope, Barry O0
Peter.
We have to learn "How to Share" %)
Martin du
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England are very good at sharing.......letting the Irish have the glory!!!!!!! <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*<
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Footski,
look at my message to Peter on page 4 of this thread.
This is what England are good at.
Out of three games we have been in a winning position in all three,
yet we let India get a draw and Ireland a win.
That's not sharing, that's not knowing how to win.
If the Aussies had been in a similar position they would have won all three games.
Its never dull supporting England.
Regards
Richard :(( :-))
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Footski,
look at my message to Peter on page 4 of this thread.
This is what England are good at.
Out of three games we have been in a winning position in all three,
yet we let India get a draw and Ireland a win.
That's not sharing, that's not knowing how to win.
If the Aussies had been in a similar position they would have won all three games.
Its never dull supporting England.
Regards
Richard :(( :-))
but having said that, I think it's really nice of you lot allowing the Irish to have something to celebrate - WOW, they were a happy lot up in the stands :-)) :-)) :-)) O0 O0 O0
Mdu
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Tow of my neighbors and good friends are Irish.......They have not stopped celebrating yet!!!!!!and they will remind me of this result for years to come... <:( <:( <:( <:(
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Following the debacle of the England v Ireland match, it has been decided by Government that a new competition will be started between those two sides. Played annually, the trophy is to be made from burning the boxes (Abdominal supports) of the English Players. The ashes will be stored in a Shillelagh and kept permanently on display in Dublin!!
For those uninitiated amongst you a Shillelagh is a famous Irish Blackthorn Fighting Stick %% %% %% %%
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Following the debacle of the England v Ireland match, it has been decided by Government that a new competition will be started between those two sides. Played annually, the trophy is to be made from burning the boxes (Abdominal supports) of the English Players. The ashes will be stored in a Shillelagh and kept permanently on display in Dublin!!
For those uninitiated amongst you a Shillelagh is a famous Irish Blackthorn Fighting Stick %% %% %% %%
Methinks there is a song in there somewhere,
"With me shillelagh under me arm an a twinkle in me eye....................."
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Maybe the England supporters will disagree with me, but the England v Ireland match was very entertaining cricket. Kevin O'Brien (Kevin who??) was a delight to watch, and made a very good England bowling attack look quite ordinary. He may never play an innings like that ever again, but his name is now in the record books as having scored the fastest century in World Cup cricket, a record that will take some beating. The fact that he set that record against one of the top cricketing nations makes it all the more special. His approach to the game reminded me of Adam Gilchrist at his best.
The result certainly throws the cat among the pigeons, and must have dented England's confidence. I think that they are good enough to bounce back.
Peter.
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Peter,
You are far too generous to a poor one day team........I mean England of course. History shows we are not good at this format...
Having said that I think the game was superbly entertaining and has done a lot of good for the Associate Members and maybe for World cricket in general......That said, I am deeply embarrassed by the result.....In the old days the Captain would have "lost his head"...... <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*<
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Just watching the highlights for Sunday and Bell was 'caught' (C&B Peterson diving to the left) but on my slow motion on the V+ it hit the ground. Were there comments and reviews at the time? anyone up that early in the morning.
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I never noticed that.......I don't think any review was made of it.....Still a surprising and good win for England. They certainly have entertained so far in this World Cup!!!!!
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Well, so much for the cricket - we both came to a sudden halt.. {:-{
Looks like Sri Lanka have it in the bag :-))
it's about time we offloaded the World Cup Trophy. Good to see the subcontinent doing so well which will make future World cups more exciting. Gives the time Aussies to rebuild, starting off with discarding the selectors... :-)) :-)) :-))
Mdu
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India for me O0
You're absolutely right about the selectors, Martin, and Ricky Ponting should be replaced as captain. There is no doubt about his quality as a batsman, his record speaks for itself but, in my opinion, he is not a good captain. I think that his poor form in recent times has been largely due to the responsiblilties that the captaincy entails, although his innings against Pakistan was outstanding, and shows what he can do when his back is against the wall. However, it was one good innings among a lot of disappointing ones.
Peter.
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I wouldn't write off NZ yet, its also time Strauss was replaced as one day captain as well, like Ponting one good innings does not win matches, his effort yesterday was appalling in the thrashing by Sri Lanka, even if we had
manage to score 300+ it wouldn't have been enough with the England bowling attack.
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Once again England went to a world cup full of expectation,
and came back well before the final.
We are miles behind most of the teams from the Sub Continent and dare I say it, the Aussies and Kiwis.
The so called experts are already spouting the rubbish about playing too much cricket.
When I started watching the game counties played each other twice a season,
and there was only one division.
Now there are two divisions, and they still keep changing the format.
Now the ECB will be changing the format again no doubt.
Good luck to the teams left in the cup,
the Kiwis with a population of about 4.5 million show that you can win games with limited recourses.
So as the underdogs they will have my support for the semis.
Regards
Richard >:-o
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Maybe the England supporters will disagree with me, but the England v Ireland match was very entertaining cricket. Kevin O'Brien (Kevin who??) was a delight to watch, and made a very good England bowling attack look quite ordinary. He may never play an innings like that ever again, but his name is now in the record books as having scored the fastest century in World Cup cricket, a record that will take some beating. The fact that he set that record against one of the top cricketing nations makes it all the more special. His approach to the game reminded me of Adam Gilchrist at his best.
The result certainly throws the cat among the pigeons, and must have dented England's confidence. I think that they are good enough to bounce back.
Peter.
Big problem here Peter. Who do you replace Ricky with? There is no obvious choice!!!!! With my England cap on I say "yes" replace him, but with my cricket head I say keep him until someone comes along who can do the job....
As for England, well we simply are not good enough at the one day game. That said, I do feel sorry for players that have been away from home for 5 months.That is ridiculous. After 5 months away what would you want to do, play another couple of games or get home to your normal life and the bosom of your family. Don't blame the players, blame the ECB for allowing such a stupid schedule..
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Just wondering,
Maybe they can't play good cricket including the Capitan
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Ergo, solution pick a team that can play cricket but, only if you want to win O0 O0 O0
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Who do you replace Ricky with? There is no obvious choice!
Barry, I believe that the "obvious choice" is Michael Clarke, who is currently the vice-captain. He has shown himself to be tactically competent and a good leader but, like Ponting, has not been in the best of form. However, as I see it, the biggest problem is in the bowling ranks. The selectors in their wisdom :o went with Tait, Lee and Krezja, all of whom performed reasonably, but I think that there were better options available. Krezja had not been getting wickets domestically and yet was preferred to other, more credentialled spinners for the World Cup, and Tait had hardly played any cricket before his selection.
Australia has some very good young cricketers coming through the ranks, they just need to be given experience at the top level.
Peter.