Model Boat Mayhem

Technical, Techniques, Hints, and Tips => Radio Equipment => Topic started by: Rosenante on January 03, 2011, 03:01:03 am

Title: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: Rosenante on January 03, 2011, 03:01:03 am
 Hi, my nickname is Bas.

 Been sandbagging for months. Excellent help.  Time to jump in.

Can anyone tell me the relationship betrween Mode 1 and Mode 2 in regards to the Mode setting dictating the Rx throttle Rx channel?
I've always assumed to was just a naming method for how one setup their sticks.

My present setup :  Hitec Flash 5 Tx in Mode 1 .  Rx Hitec 6 channel.
                                     ( was used for planes, now boats.)

                          Running an Esc with out a reverse function. ( have reverse by DPDT sw.)
                             Right stick ratcheted throttle, Fully down for off.
                             Left stick, rudder.

                           No problems. All work fine.


           Now in process of getting a Action P94 Esc -Mixer  (If they ever sober up and stop partying)
 From diagrams on their excellent site ,the throttle is on the left stick. Rudder ,right. Simple to fix by changing to Mode 2.

           Question,. Do I need to?

 The reason I ask is that I would like to retain that ratcheted throttle on the right stick for bench work and running another model.
  From the past setups designating some usage to a servo relied of Rx slot position. The Tx has 2 model setup.

  But wiith the throttle,I don't know. I start confusing myself with a centre neutral left stick and ratcheted full throw right stick even when locked into  a second model.

Example. Setup in Mode2 for P94. Switch to second model ,ie, non reversing Esc and throttle conrol would be what?
Centre off. Full stick up for full on? It's really just signal for the Esc to work with. Yes? No?

Or, OR, is it just a case ot staying in Mode 1 and and giving the right stick to the throttle channel..  God my head hurts.

My reasoning changes daily and I may start going in circles her, so, I;ll see if anyone even understands what I am on about........ Bas     
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: Arrow5 on January 03, 2011, 07:45:13 am
"Was used for planes"  , you cant use aircraft frequencies for surface use.  Have you changed ?
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: barriew on January 03, 2011, 07:46:29 am
"Was used for planes"  , you cant use aircraft frequencies for surface use.  Have you changed ?

He's in Australia - different rules down there!!!!!!!

Barrie
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: Arrow5 on January 03, 2011, 07:49:19 am
Yes I notice that Ayr, my home town Ayr, Scotland O0  So whats the differance :o  Ossie Rules ?
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on January 03, 2011, 08:09:14 am
We speaka da Ostrailyun.

Ya know mate not dat pommie stuff.

An its north a brissie in da soonshun stait

Ayr is a town in Queensland, Australia near the delta of the Burdekin River. It is within the Burdekin Shire, which produces the most sugar cane per square kilometre in Australia utilising underground water supplies and water from the Burdekin Dam to irrigate crops when rains fail.

Ayr is located 88 km south of Townsville on the Bruce Highway and 12km away from the (smaller) town of Home Hill. It is 112km north of Bowen and 290km north of Mackay. Ayr has a population of approximately 8,000. It has the usual chain stores, ten pin bowling, a toyshop, drive in movie, cinema, 6 pubs as well as a range of sports, electrical, fashion stores. Ayr has several banks including the Commonwealth, ANZ, Suncorp, National and Bendigo Bank. Alva beach, a popular area for fishing and swimming, is located 16km east of Ayr.
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: Arrow5 on January 03, 2011, 08:37:39 am
Yeah yeah what about the radio frequencies bit <*< >>:-( Geography pograffie pah, cant stand all your sunshine, surf ` n` n` things ! ok2 ...and  I NOT a Pom...the other Ayr is in SCOTLAND  >>:-( no English `cept missionaries :o  Hold on Bas, somebody will soon come on with the answers to your questions, this why it is called Mayhem. :-))
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: ACTion on January 03, 2011, 08:55:34 am
Your method of operating the present boat is the problem. Why not fit a conventional 'centre=stop' ESC?
Ref P94, the throttle is shown in the diagrams as being on the LH stick but that doesn't mean that you can't put it onto the RH stick.  You'll find setting up and operating P94 a lot easier if you do have a spring-centred throttle.
BTW we haven't been to any parties - I was actually building P94s on Christmas morning - and we have replied to all the correspondence we have received, but we are closed from tomorrow until 17th.
DM @ ACTion
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on January 03, 2011, 08:56:26 am
Yeah yeah what about the radio frequencies bit <*< >>:-( Geography pograffie pah, cant stand all your sunshine, surf ` n` n` things ! ok2 ...and  I NOT a Pom...the other Ayr is in SCOTLAND  >>:-( no English `cept missionaries :o  Hold on Bas, somebody will soon come on with the answers to your questions, this why it is called Mayhem. :-))


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Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: Rosenante on January 03, 2011, 11:26:39 am
Thanks all for the comeback.
 
36 mhz is the plane freq. allocated here Jock.
 Sorry I'm late . Posted at 3 am local time. Figured you would all be at work now.
 Didn't mean to upset you Dave.
 I'm not familiar with a centre stop Esc. I am extremely lucky to get a brushed motor Esc.
Across the counter that is, locally in Townsville. I have to make most things I need.

Bas
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: Rosenante on January 03, 2011, 12:01:23 pm
Just been thinking about what arrow5 said.

Is there a model boat frequency Australia wide RaaArtyGunner?
I've never given it a thought. This place is so small , hobbiy interest-wise.
 I've only been here a couple of years but never come across any plane activity.
Having just retired my horizons have shrunk a little.

BTY RaaArtyGunner you forgot crocs and mozzies big as bats.

Bas.
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on January 03, 2011, 12:20:32 pm

"BTW you forgot crocs and mozzies big as bats"

Bas,

I didn't want to scare off all the Poms and the Scot. (sshh think there might be more than one)

Suppose Townsville will be out of touch for awhile with the wet.

Haven't seen any mention of Ayr on the news but suppose you still would have had a few mill/inches

Fellow mayhemer Nick sails with Logan Modelers sth of Brisbane and may know of frequency requirements as may Peter fitness who is south of the border.

Welcome to Mayhem  {-) {-) %% %% O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: Arrow5 on January 03, 2011, 03:08:25 pm
Yeah too right Arty, just watch it ...theres two of us >:-o  Hope you are keeping your feet dry in Q/land , looks pretty bad on the TV. Take care  :-)). Anyway back to the freeks, our good lady modeller and font of knowledge, Umi, has posted the answers on RCGroups previously. She refers to http://ukrcc.org/australia.html  It has a drop-down list for other countries. :-))
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on January 03, 2011, 08:38:53 pm
Arrow,
 :-)) :-)) ;) ;)

Brisbane is OK with minor flooding in comparison with the other areas, real disaster.

Get this, we still have water restrictions  O0 O0 {-) {-)

Neded in some towns/areas because the water treatment plants and sewerage works have been flooded, with some sustaining damage. <:( <:(

Downside is ALL insurance premiums for the entire state if not nationwide, will now rise so that the insurance companies maintain their profit ratio and recoup their "payouts", if any. >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: Rosenante on January 04, 2011, 11:46:18 am
Hi Guys. Look I'm not used to this time lag business. Who Is on when etc. ( Okay Who is on firts base)

But a sincere thanks for your help.

I'm found a couple of solutions to what I was after but as a first post it was far too convoluted.

As to weather, Ayr have had nothing out of the ordinary. That BIG wet went north of Townsville, swung west then down inside.
The point of rain here is that coastal flooding is brief. Inland covers such hugh catchment areas the the English couldn't possible understand the volumes involved.
  Unti later, I'd like to close this post Thanks again  Bas.
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: DickyD on January 04, 2011, 12:14:58 pm
In Australia. There are 3 frequency bands available for radio control use, excluding the standard 27MHz band used with most rc toys. The bands are:

    * 29MHz FM primarily surface vehicles
    * 36MHz FM primarily aircraft
    * 40MHz FM also for general use

Frequency use may vary from club to club, with regards to which models use which of the above bands. The 40MHz band is used the least, due to potential interference from two-way radios and paging systems.

http://www.rc-airplane-world.com/rc-frequencies-australia.html
Title: Re: Just a bit of stick.
Post by: Lord Bungle on January 04, 2011, 01:15:13 pm
On the subject of the flooding it brought a smile to my face when I heard the typical Aussie understatement on the radio yesterday.
When getting asked about how the floods had effected him the reply was "yea its a bit damp, 80% of the house is under water, the kids toys and the Christmas stuff is ruined, but it should clean up all right"
None of the wailing and gnashing of teeth you get here when planes get cancelled so people miss their Holidays. just the **it happens get on with it and try to make the best attitude.