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Title: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on February 20, 2007, 08:09:18 pm
I have been told I should put my build on the forum
This could be the longest build ever as my emphysema limits the amount of time I can spend with glue, epoxy and paint.
Anyway here goes. It took me a week to pluck up the courage to cut the stern out of the moulded hull so that I could glue the correct shaped one in place. It actually leans back approx 2mm more than it should. Not to bad as the only way I had of marking it out was from the rudders which were fitted temporarily.
Fitted and epoxied in the rudders,
Fitted the prop shafts after throwing Robbes dimensions away. They wanted an extra 15 mm between the tubes and the couplings. This would have put the props between the rudders.
Fitted the motors which Robbes told me to wire up wrong, but thanks to you chaps I got it right.
Fitted the props and radio gear , esc etc and tested it, and surprise, everything went in the right direction.
Next I trimmed and fitted the deck and trimmed the hull down to deck level.
Next I have to do the decking and paint the hull.
Dont hold your breath, I'll be doing that.
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 20, 2007, 09:12:18 pm


Well done Dicky. Tidy work. Keep the pictures coming.

Sorry to hear about the emphysema versus the glue.  Have you considered a face mask with fine vents.  ( just for the odd occasion)    I used to work for 3M, so I use these for fibreglassing and sanding.  All them 'cigs' did me no good.


Cheers...Ken
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on February 21, 2007, 09:04:02 am
Thanks Ken
Have tried mask ,had trouble breathing with it.
Will keep photos coming,

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: John W E on February 21, 2007, 10:47:56 am
hi there Dicky - so I am not the only one who suffers from emphysema - one of the ways I get around breathing difficulties is, I have an old computer fan - which I used to blow air across the item I am gluing and painting and away from my face - I find this helps a lot.   I know what you mean about the masks - sometimes its difficult enough to get your breath and sticking something over your mouth and nose only hampers the problem.  A wee whisky dram on a night doesnt half ease the chest - sometimes better than any medication from the doctor - only trouble is (according to my wife) I am addicted to it - the whisky and this forum!

aye
KEEP THE PICS COMING MATE YOU A DOING A BRILLIANT JOB
John e
Bluebird
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: cbr900 on February 21, 2007, 01:14:19 pm
Richard me old mate,

Sounds like you might be starting a new group, called the busted lung group, for all us gogs with the same chest problems, and yes mine is caused by to many gigs for way to long....


Bluebird,
You are dead right there mate a dram or two of a night does help, but mine are Bourbon....



Roy
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: J.beazley on February 21, 2007, 04:18:52 pm
Well done Richard your getting there.
looking at your build Robbe have changed lots of things from the original kit, lots more plasticard parts and resin fiitings i think. will have to get you and Bob together with myself so we can all sail together :o

KEEP THEM PICS COMING, i dont want to have the only build thread on the Schutze ;D

Jay
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on February 21, 2007, 05:17:51 pm
Right, back again.
Had yet another hard day boat building.
First I had to spray the hull. [cough cough]
Next I had to cut out the decking which is self adhesive.
Robbe have not made it too clear where to cut and they are slightly out with the cut outs for openings in the deck. I nearly ended up with a 3mm gap between the two pieces that join next to the middle opening.
Had to wet surface with soapy water before applying decking so that it can be slid around to get it all lined up.
All going well I might start the superstructure tomorrow.

Are there any more people out there with lung problems who want to join our club on here.

Anyway must of for a small dram or two.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: J.beazley on February 21, 2007, 05:36:05 pm
Blimey at this rate you will be on the water next weekend, looking at this thread is spurring me on to finish mine as ive still got a fair bit to finish her off.

Jay
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on February 22, 2007, 04:50:25 pm
Hi, back from another hard day in the shed.
Today I painted the hull below the waterline.
Then I started on the bridge superstructure.
The first job was to cut the top out of the moulding to form the open bridge using the Robbe hit and miss method.
The second job was to make up the interior, decks, companionways etc. never to be seen again but at least they strengthen the exterior moulding.
Next had to cut out the bridge windows and glue in the perspex which then had to be masked on both sides ready for painting.
Next the holes for the portholes and some of the fittings had to be drilled.
At this point I feel that should anyone be doing a Robbe boat in the future they should not take Robbes dimensions as gospel.
I then painted the superstructure.
When this was dry the light fittings, mast fixings etc were glued in place.
I then decided it was time to start thinking about an early dram as the sun had never appeared let alone passed over the yardarm.
The construction gets a bit more complicated now so I think I will be slowing down.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on February 23, 2007, 04:47:26 pm
Spent hours in the shed but dont appear to have done much.
Have fitted the windscreen.
Made up all the handrails and fitted them and the ladders.[all brass]
Fitted the bridge decking
Fitted the supports that the mast will be attached to.
Sprayed the bridge.
I am now ready to start on the handrails,[ that should slow me up.]
I just hope Robbe's dimensions have improved.
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 23, 2007, 08:20:45 pm

You're going like a train Dicky. Nice bit of 'spraying'

It is true that a lot of time spent, sometimes doesn't show, but it is worth it.  ;D

Have you completed the internal electrics yet, or do you leave that till later ?


Cheers...Ken
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on February 23, 2007, 08:46:31 pm

You're going like a train Dicky. Nice bit of 'spraying'

It is true that a lot of time spent, sometimes doesn't show, but it is worth it.  ;D

Have you completed the internal electrics yet, or do you leave that till later ?


Cheers...Ken
Hi Ken
Haven't tidied up electrics yet as I am not sure if I am going to stick with the 9.6V nicad or go for a 6V lead acid battery. The amount of ballast and the position of the ballast and battery will depend on which way I go.
It is however all wired up and has been tested. All OK.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on February 23, 2007, 09:05:50 pm

Funny you should mention ballast with the lead batteries.

I have made a parallel set of guides which run half the length of the boat, for this very reason.

My idea is to slide the battery to balance the boat after all the topside is completed.  When I find the optimum position, then, I can mark its final resting place.  I have room for two if necessary. ;D

I have tried the 'bathroom test' and the Aziz appears very buoyant. I got the feeling that if I had two boats, I could stand on them  :D


Cheer...Ken
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on February 23, 2007, 09:08:40 pm
You're braver than me Ken. I'm not into extreme sports.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: J.beazley on February 23, 2007, 09:41:02 pm
My one runs on a single 6volt 12ah SLA and with just the battery it ballasts it down to the water line near enough perfect.

running time flat out continuous use is around 2hours 45 minutes more then enough for me as i poddle it around the lake and leave it sat still for a while then move it and sit again so i usually get around 4 hours out of it.

Jay
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on February 23, 2007, 09:47:10 pm
Jay
Did you get my message on your build.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on February 26, 2007, 04:34:20 pm
Another hard day in the shed.
Concentrating on the bridge superstructure at the moment.
Have been doing handrails etc and the weapons control platform.
Didn't think soldering was my strong point now I know its not. :-[
Having said that ,it's not going to fall apart.
Next job is the funnel.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Shipmate60 on February 26, 2007, 09:54:43 pm
Richard,
There do seem to be a lot of differences from the old kits.
Not all of them improvements though.
BUT
You are doing a superb build, keep up this rate and we might just have 3 on the water mid march when I am due home again!!

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: John W E on February 26, 2007, 10:30:32 pm
Dicky did you enjoy doing the soldering and are you happy with what you have - if so, then its perfect to the rest of us on this forum  :D  Keep up the good work and keep the pictures coming,

Aye
John E
BLUEBIRD
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on February 27, 2007, 04:42:11 pm
Reckon Martin is taking the p**s .Because I moaned because he put this thread under tugs, he's altered my heading. :P

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on February 27, 2007, 05:20:40 pm
Didn't do alot today, was busy this morning.
All I did was the stack and got a few bits ready for tomorrow.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: kendalboatsman on February 27, 2007, 08:17:59 pm
Hi Dicky,

I really like the build of your minesweeper,Has that kit been out long? I have lost track of what was released over the last 5 years.

One last question do you intend to sail it to scale and run it aground like the full size one? ;D

Sorry couldn't resist that last question, LOL

Regards
Clive
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on February 27, 2007, 09:05:13 pm
Hi Clive
It is one of Robbes old kits which they discontinued.
They then revamped the kit and brought it out again sometime last year.
The one they ran aground was a newer one,this one was built in the sixties.
Thanks for the comments.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Abuelo3 on February 27, 2007, 10:37:00 pm
Please, I beg to everyone who are in lung trouble, I beg,  to wear an industrial range protective mask.
Sincerely
Dr. Antonio Arvide Limón
Master in Enviromental Health
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 01, 2007, 06:52:00 pm
Didn't do much today.
Was going to start on the mast but found that the bag with all the screws and screw eyes has not been supplied with the other fittings.
Westbourne tell me I should receive them tomorrow.

Richard ;)
 
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 02, 2007, 04:19:56 pm
Did a bit to the mast. Could not do too much as I am still waiting for screws etc.
Bit of a work up as soldering is not really my thing, plus some of the parts were damn awkward to fit together an hold there for soldering.
Also a lot of the parts were close together, so I would be soldering one part and the part next to it would drop out.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: J.beazley on March 02, 2007, 04:48:41 pm
busy building again i see, your swepper is a lot more detailed then mine, that might just be me not having the time to fully detail her.

how detailed are you going to go with her Richard???

Jay
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 02, 2007, 09:20:58 pm
About the same as on the advertising literature photos Jay , I hope.
Richard. ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 03, 2007, 10:22:32 pm
Stuck now waiting for missing fittings.
Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 06, 2007, 05:43:51 pm
Mast finished and installed. All except the ensign. I have to get another one as the ones that Robbe supplied are only printed on one side.

I have also soldered the handrails.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 07, 2007, 05:38:59 pm
Finished soldering railings then painted and fixed them.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: J.beazley on March 07, 2007, 06:24:59 pm
Ready for the water now then Richard ;D ;)

your going to put mine to shame with the amount of detail you are putting into it.
keep up the good work buddy, might one day have mine looking as detailed when i finally get to become a GOG and can class myself as a skilled modeller that is  ;).

Jay
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 07, 2007, 06:31:35 pm
Loads more to do yet Jay.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: John W E on March 07, 2007, 06:34:24 pm
Dicky, its looking good there mate.

You know the lamp at the back of the boat, well where did you nick that street lamp from -  did you nick it from outside your house or the motorway services  ;D ;D because I could do with one.

yours
aye
John E
Bluebird
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 07, 2007, 06:44:56 pm
Neither John, I nicked it from Hobbycraft.
Wont be any good for you unless you have electric up your way now. ???

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: John W E on March 07, 2007, 06:48:05 pm
hey Dicky we got gas as well ... and by the other postings we have plenty of gas .... do you need some down at your end of the country free of charge  ;D ;D ;D ;D

yours
aye
John E

ps I will have a look at those lights in Hobbycraft.
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Shipmate60 on March 08, 2007, 10:13:26 pm
Well you do keep telling us we are nicking YOUR oil, lol

 :)

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 12, 2007, 04:47:30 pm
Progress has slowed down quite a bit now I am on the fiddly bits.
Most of the front end is complete apart from a bit of detailing.
I am now on with the stern fittings, cranes paravanes etc.
I didn't realize you could have so many pieces to make up such small items, it has been a bit like a production line.
Two photos today,one showing bow of ship and one showing pieces partly made for stern.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 12, 2007, 04:53:25 pm
Excuse state of bench.
Tidy bench nothing to do.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: J.beazley on March 12, 2007, 07:11:08 pm
Your at the same stage as me, except ive got all the fittings on the rear end just waiting for paint to arrive in post the can finish her off and finally say im DONE.

Jay
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 12, 2007, 09:37:02 pm
Hi Jay
I'm having same problem, run out of paint.
I am going to try and pick some up tomorrow.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: John W E on March 12, 2007, 10:01:14 pm
Hi my mate, all jokes aside, you have given us some good inspiration by your build - it does truly look great.  It is difficult for people to understand - those who suffer from lung trouble - how difficult it is to spray paint and use certain glues and solvents - and how it leaves us literally fighting for our breath and wondering, is it worth it.... but when we look at the likes of your build...it certainly is worth it, because where those who have lung trouble will click is the day that you sail it breathing the fresh air and knowing what a struggle it has been at times for you to build it, its a good achievement my friend, carry on building. Its looking very good.

aye
john E
BLUEBIRD
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 14, 2007, 03:59:29 pm
Yet another hard day in the shed, peaceful and quiet and no one to interupt me apart from the dog who seems to think because the siun is out we should play all day.
Any way today I finished the painting of the deck fittings which I then fixed.
Robbe in their wisdom mark out the deck for the fittings. They then give you all the dimensions to make the fittings and guess what half the fittings fit as instructions, covering the marking out on the deck and the other half dont!. ???
So here are more photos of progress so far.

Richard  ;)

PS Am I the only one that cannot stick anything with super glue apart from my fingers ?? :(
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Shipmate60 on March 14, 2007, 05:20:37 pm
Looking good mate.

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 14, 2007, 05:28:42 pm
Thanks Bob I am struggling on.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: J.beazley on March 14, 2007, 06:17:12 pm
Looking good, does the RIB go on the funnel with the new kit as ive got mine over the rear deck hatch???

still looks ten times better then mine whats next on the bench after the Schutze???

Jay
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 14, 2007, 06:31:28 pm
Hi Jay
Yes the rib does go on the side of the funnel.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Shipmate60 on March 14, 2007, 09:56:50 pm
Richard,
In Janes 1974-5 it shows the inflatable on the after deck.
But as isthe usual practice I expect the stowage would change from ship to ship.

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schultze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: bigfella on March 15, 2007, 09:07:11 am
Hi Dicky

Great build, it really looks the business. In regards to Superglue I don't think your Robinson Caruso on that on, I have a habit of putting the just glued bits down on the bench an it sticks to the paper I have on top of the bench ;D ;D ;D

Regards Bigfella
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 15, 2007, 09:57:03 am
Richard,
In Janes 1974-5 it shows the inflatable on the after deck.
But as isthe usual practice I expect the stowage would change from ship to ship.

Bob

Hi Bob
Think you are right if you look on this web site you will see both:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.schuetzeklasse.de/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSchuetze%2BKlasse%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Shipmate60 on March 15, 2007, 01:43:48 pm
I would assume that the funnel stowage would be for passages, but if it was likely to be used or in confined or harbour waters it would be under the Cranes.

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: dash8man on March 15, 2007, 07:18:46 pm
Richard,

    Just started the build of my Robbe Schuetze today. Looks like a fun build. Took almost 2 hours just to build the stand! Finished the Robbe S-130 last week and waiting for the ice to thaw here to give her run. Your Schuetze is coming along quite nicely! Cheers.

Bill.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 15, 2007, 08:18:11 pm
Hi Bill
She was fun to build, though dont take their dimensions and instructions as gospel.
Enjoy your build.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 16, 2007, 06:25:32 pm
Didn't do anything today to boat. Went to Westbournes to pick up the final bits I need. SWIMBO went shopping and left me chatting and spending her money [well she did say get what you need]. Any way was to bushed when I got home to do any.
Photograph of last bits just to show I wasn't totally idle.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Shipmate60 on March 16, 2007, 06:52:44 pm
DickyD,
What size and make are those props, they look like Raboesch, (yes that is the correct spelling )

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 16, 2007, 11:28:19 pm
Bob
They are 40mm diameter.
Cant remember the make but Westbournes are now having them made and they reckon they are the Rolls Royce of props.
They certainly look it.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: J.beazley on March 17, 2007, 10:35:10 am
They look nicer then my prop shop ones , my pitch is a bit higher than those though to give more power  ;D

Jay
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 17, 2007, 06:11:28 pm
I think the props are Sitek.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Peterm on March 17, 2007, 06:50:26 pm
George Sitek is not in our traders directory, but he is reliable, helpful, and has good quality items.   No, I am not a relative, just a very satisfied customer.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: dash8man on March 18, 2007, 03:00:10 pm
Richard,

    Did you have any problems installing the bulkheads particularly D08 and B07? Looks like they're not going in without lots of sanding!

Bill.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 18, 2007, 03:04:38 pm
Hi Bill Which ones are D08 and BO7 ?

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: dash8man on March 18, 2007, 03:36:26 pm
They are the front bulkheads attached to the motor/battery frame. Very tight fit. Just wondering if its just me or if anyone else had a problem here. Numbers actually D008 and B007. Cheers.

Bill.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on March 18, 2007, 03:50:04 pm
Hi Bill
Several of the bulheads including those needed a bit of sanding. Quite a lot on some. Just make sure the tops are all in the right place.
Top of stern is also quite critical as they dont allow any extra self adhesive decking only just enough.

Richard ;)

PS if you have any queries you can always e-mail me. Address is on profile.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on April 03, 2007, 02:48:21 pm
Tested the Schuetze on the water for the first time yesterday.
Found one slight problem. Having used a 6v lead acid battery instead of the Robbe ones I found that my battery being heavier it pushed the bow down a bit.
When I had painted the hull I used Robbes dimensions to mark out the water line. I now found the water line at the bows to be under water [not good].
I then had to move the battery back as far as it would go and the repaint the bottom of the hull.
It is now all finished as the last job was to check out the range of the radio control and this was found to be fine at 200 yards which is more than I will ever need.
I now have to wait a fortnight for the maiden voyage as better half has things arranged plus I have to wait till son isn't working as I need him to fetch and carry.
This build has been most enjoyable, have now got to persuade the better half to buy another one.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: dash8man on April 03, 2007, 04:00:39 pm
Looking good Richard. Bit of a pain to repaint the waterline but it turned out well. My Schuetze is presently at the primer stage. Been waiting for warmer, dry weather here. Cheers.

Bill.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on April 03, 2007, 04:19:08 pm
Thats all I used on mine . Primer and matt varnish.
Thanks for comments.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Shipmate60 on April 03, 2007, 05:20:30 pm
Richard,
How did she perform on the Robbe motors and 6volts, what size props did you go for in the end?

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on April 03, 2007, 05:38:34 pm
Only had her in a pool Bob. Tried out motor, runs quiet and chucks a lot of water out the back. Doesn't run as fast as it did with the 9.6v but not too bothered. Will give it a whirl.
I have fitted the Sitec 40mm 3 bladed ones as they appear to have the same pitch as the Robbe plastic ones they supplied.
Has your one got crew on it Bob and if so where did you get them ?

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: hiapita on April 03, 2007, 06:22:12 pm
She is looking really nice cant wait to see some pics of her on the water.

  Hannah.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on April 03, 2007, 09:06:41 pm
Thanks Hannah I shall be looking at your build later.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Shipmate60 on April 03, 2007, 09:40:02 pm
The crew came off the first one I got, the were on board.
She ended up in Beale, Richard Howard bought her.

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: slewis on April 03, 2007, 10:04:22 pm
Richard a very nice and informative build thread of the Schuetze  .
I must say your attention to detail is great and she looks fantastic ! A real credit to you  :)

Nice work    roll on your next build  ;)

Shane
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on April 04, 2007, 08:45:58 am
Nothing planned Shane.
In the middle of renovating 1970s Freya 36.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: cbr900 on April 04, 2007, 02:07:41 pm
It would appear that you have made a very good looking model Richard, well done mate......



Roy
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: dash8man on April 04, 2007, 02:58:48 pm
Hi Richard,

    Do you think that the Robbe measurements for the waterline are incorrect or did you have to readjust your waterline because of the batteries you used? Cheers.

Bill.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: rats on April 04, 2007, 03:26:23 pm
 Looks great Richard !
        What type of paint and varnish did you use !
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on April 04, 2007, 03:37:48 pm
Thanks Roy.

Bill, I'm not sure mate. I did it as their dimensions.
They do show two of their 6v batteries and I used one 6v lead acid.
The waterline is more or less parallel to the deck now, whereas before it was lower at the bows.
I have also moved the battery back about three inches up to the motors.
I have yet to try it again.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on April 04, 2007, 03:48:32 pm
Looks great Richard !
        What type of paint and varnish did you use !

Hi rats
I used a plastic primer [grey and red] that I bought from Amazon. Similar to plasticote but cheaper.
See   http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=32.0
The smaller items are painted with Tamiya Acrylics.
The varnish is a matt acrylic fast drying one from my local paint merchant. Cant remember the make off hand.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on April 08, 2007, 03:24:48 pm
Maiden voyage day today. Went to Setley Pond in the New Forest.
Found that on putting her in the water she had a slight list to starboard. This was cured using a Stanley Knife on the battery housing and moving the battery slightly to port,
The waterline was about right.
When running she is absolutely silent, no whines from anywhere.
The prop shafts I was having trouble with were no problem.
The motors only got very slightly warm.
Seemed to run at scale speed.
Ran for approx. 3 hours and still plenty of life in the battery.
Also kept all the water on the outside.

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: John W E on April 08, 2007, 06:56:50 pm
hey there mate - she looks very impressive on the water there.  So, when you have finished the restoration job on your next model - how are you going to persuade the better half that you need another model to build.  ;D ;D ;D 

aye
john e
bluebird
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: kendalboatsman on April 08, 2007, 07:07:38 pm
Hi Richard,

Looks very good on the water.

Clive :)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: J.beazley on April 08, 2007, 08:38:30 pm
Wicked Richard, maiden voyage for yours and mine was running a dream today aswell  ;D

be good to get them together eventually buddy will be a sight on a lake ;)

Jay
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on April 08, 2007, 09:11:47 pm
hey there mate - she looks very impressive on the water there.  So, when you have finished the restoration job on your next model - how are you going to persuade the better half that you need another model to build.  ;D ;D ;D 

aye
john e
bluebird
Already working on it John.
Hows your washing??

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: John W E on April 08, 2007, 09:31:56 pm
Thanks mate for rubbing salt in the wound - the better half has spent most of the night looking at washing machines - if I catch the b***er who invented hot and cold fill - I will show them where the hot water pipe goes.

the deary beloved washing mashine spat its dummy out yesterday and tried to self destruct - ever seen a washer full of water trying to do a 1400 rev spin - doesnt half do some damage to the floor in the kitchen  :'(

aye mate, but your model is looking good, very good 10 out of 10 for that one mate.

aye
john e
bluebird
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: Shipmate60 on April 08, 2007, 11:32:47 pm
She does look good Richard, glad to see you dont spend ALL your time on here  :)

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: hiapita on April 09, 2007, 09:27:10 pm
WOW!!!!!! she looks really nice on the water Richard I would love to have a go she looks fast. I hope my Ark looks half as good as that.

  Hannah.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on April 15, 2007, 03:32:52 pm
At long last got the ballast right.
Couple more photos and one for the sub boys. ;D

Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: J.beazley on April 15, 2007, 04:08:11 pm
Looking good again Richard, had mine on the water today.
As a result of taking the 6volt battery out and now running 2x 7.2volt buggy packs she wobbled about a bit but will have that sorted tonight when i ballast her properly in the bath.

(see you next sunday)

Jay
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: John W E on April 15, 2007, 04:41:08 pm
Dicky, your model looks really smart 10/10 for that mate.  What lake do you sail at? as it looks lovely there?

Did you depth charge the sub by any chance.  Is that why its coming up to surrender.

aye
john e
bluebird
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on April 15, 2007, 09:25:40 pm
Hi John
I sail at Setley Pond in the New Forest. The photo was taken on Thursday afternoon. There were only the two of us sailing.
Before I started I checked with the chap with the sub what crystal he was using and he insisted it was different to mine.
After about ten minutes sailing my boat circled twice in the middle of the pond and stopped on its own. After a lot of swearing and worrying about what was wrong with it ,it turned out the other chap was using the same crystals and was testing the uboat on land. He then put his controls in the neutral position hijacked my boat and stopped the motors .
Other than that I had a great afternoon.
Check this out, its the boat club I belong to.
   http://www.photobox.co.uk/public/customer.html?customer=1022634


Richard ;)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze Build ( it's a Warship! )
Post by: DickyD on June 03, 2007, 06:00:15 pm
I have at long last found some crew at roughly 1:40 scale.
50 plastic soldiers from Toys-R- Us, price 99p.
Now all I've got to do is chop a few arms, legs and heads off and rearrange them an then make the finished articles look like German sailors ???
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on June 05, 2007, 05:38:07 pm
At long last a crew for the scheutze ;D
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: Shipmate60 on June 05, 2007, 05:47:59 pm
That looks like a German male-only DISCO  :)

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on June 05, 2007, 05:49:47 pm
Sorry couldn't get the music on here ::)
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: Shipmate60 on June 05, 2007, 07:05:04 pm
So not the Village people

Der Sailor Boys  :)

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on June 05, 2007, 08:31:53 pm
Them aint dancing legs, thems sea legs.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: Shipmate60 on June 05, 2007, 10:35:42 pm
I hope I NEVER look like the one in the centre then.  :)

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on June 06, 2007, 08:43:23 am
Modelled on you Bob ;D
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on June 06, 2007, 06:01:46 pm
The crews on board ready for the weekend. ;D
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: Shipmate60 on June 06, 2007, 10:36:53 pm
Ahhhh, a booze cruise then  :)

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: bigfella on June 08, 2007, 02:11:29 am
Hi Richard

You have done a fantastic job on this build, I like the sailors a good touch of realism. I have crew for my PT Boat but don't know how to secure them to the deck, how do you secure your crew???

Regards David
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on June 08, 2007, 08:58:13 am
Hi David
I put a thin smear of epoxy over the entire boot including underneath, this I let dry.
Then I put a drop of epoxy under the boot again and stick it to the deck.
You need to mix small quantities of fast setting epoxy.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: bigfella on June 08, 2007, 10:57:02 am
Hi Richard

Thanks for that, I was afraid that I might lose some crew overboard as I had no idea as to keep them on deck, what with the movement of a fast boat,  the force of the wind and spray of the water. Thanks mate.

Regards David
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: comp99man on January 19, 2008, 01:21:54 pm
I am building the Schuetze as a winter project and need some advice on the type of paint to use on the ABS.  I am also having problems finding the right colour paint that is near to the RAL number given in the instructions.  I would be grateful for any help.

Thanks
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: Stan on January 19, 2008, 01:38:23 pm
Hi Comp 99. Please send me personell message via Mayhem  I too have this kit to build and i think you will find the grey colour information supplied from Robbe is not correct. The grey is very Dark  if you find pictures of this class on the net  the colour seems to be a  blue grey on the hull and superstructure. White Ensign do  Grey Paint for the German Federal Navy. Awaiting your e Mail.

Stan O0
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on January 19, 2008, 01:39:31 pm
Hi
I used Plasticote primer for the main paintwork and Tamiya acrylics for the detail.
I then painted over with Ronseal matt finish varnish

http://www.paintsprays.co.uk/catalog/plastic-primer-p-221.html         Plastic primer

http://www.paintsprays.co.uk/catalog/primer-paints-p-222.html         Coloured primer

Enjoy your build. A nice kit.

You might find this site helpful

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.schuetzeklasse.de/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=2&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSchuetze%2BKlasse%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: comp99man on January 21, 2008, 10:41:24 am
Thanks very much for the information on the paint finsh.  I hope to put it into practice within the next three weeks.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: MTB on January 22, 2008, 12:46:33 pm
hello dicky  D,
REALLY SORRY TO HEAR ABOT YOUR BREATHING TROUBLES.know about diabilities myself and how the smallest things can be big comthiproblems when interferring with what you want hope everything is comfortable at present. not being the most pstient man in the world it is sometimes hard going but worse i is not being able to live in my own home with all my bits around me and my workshop at hand stuck in 1 little roogod bless my sister in law otherwise i'd still be in hospital  all the time is very fraustratingjust this confuser zn bloody daytime tv. how small a world we live in chaps. any way shouldn't grimble things could be worse. keep up the sterling work dicky i'm looking forward to your launch.i'm pretty partial to small war dhips myself as name implies and hope to start one myself in the not too distant future.any plans going begging please boys..........email for address.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on January 22, 2008, 01:28:09 pm
Hi MTB thanks for the kind words. I hope you have a speedy recovery.
If you have time on your hands you might like to look at the following link.

http://www.photobox.co.uk/public/customer.html?customer=1022634

This is all the photos from the Solent Radio Control Model Yacht Club, and there are lots, including my boats.
Easiest way is to view each section as a slide show.

Take care. O0
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: dash8man on February 08, 2008, 02:56:48 am
Well, I built this kit just under a year ago with help from this thread and then sold it. Regretted the sale ever since so, yep, I bought another one! I intend to keep this one and actually float it this time. Once again this Forum and this particular thread will be a great source of information as the build progresses. Hey Dicky, did you sell your Schuetze?? Cheers.

Bill.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on February 08, 2008, 11:50:12 am
Hi Bill
No I didn't sell it, its my favourite boat. very reliable, the Robbe motors are excellent, she runs all day on two 9.6v 4300mAh batteries wired parallel [which is all the ballast she needs] and she stays dry no matter what. Sell her, never.
She was also one of my most enjoyable builds once I plucked up the courage to cut the stern out of the hull. :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: dash8man on February 08, 2008, 04:11:41 pm
Sorry Richard, it was J. Beazley who had a thread about revamping a used model of the Schuetze and I think he eventually wanted to sell it. His rebuild seemed to come out nicely. Glad to hear you still have yours. Cheers.

Bill.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: Shipmate60 on February 08, 2008, 05:13:47 pm
I think they are superb models, yes have an operational one and another kit to build.

Bob
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: dash8man on February 12, 2008, 10:04:30 pm
Richard,

    Can you explain to me how to properly install the glazing on the inside of the superstructure? Robbe say that you are not to remove the protective covering on the glazing til after painting. I assume some of this covering must be trimmed away in order to have a gluing surface to the inside of the superstructure? Then once painted are you supposed to carefully slice around each window frame with an x-acto knife and remove the protective covering? That's my take on it. Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers.

Bill.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on February 12, 2008, 10:53:54 pm
You got it right Bill. Just remove enough so you can glue the windows in and remove the rest after painting. O0
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: dash8man on February 13, 2008, 05:04:12 am
Thanks for the confirmation on that Richard. Instructions were a little vague! Cheers. O0
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: TugFan on December 03, 2009, 04:43:55 am
I just found this build log.Was this the old kit before Robbie reworked it?
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on December 03, 2009, 08:13:59 am
No this was the reworked kit.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: TugFan on December 03, 2009, 01:22:36 pm
I think I'll stick with doing a Model Slipway kit.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on December 03, 2009, 01:28:52 pm
Your choice.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: steve pickstock on December 03, 2009, 04:00:09 pm
Do you ever stream the sweeping gear?
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on December 03, 2009, 04:08:13 pm
Afraid not, just for show, dont want to catch any fish.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: dash8man on December 04, 2009, 05:29:00 pm
Real impressive water pics Richard! Looks great. Finished mine a while back and sold it. Such a nice kit I'm thinking about getting another one and actually floating it this time! We'll see. Cheers.

Bill.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: DickyD on December 04, 2009, 05:34:55 pm
Thought about selling mine but couldn't do it she sails so well whatever the weather is reliable and totally dry inside
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: dash8man on December 04, 2009, 05:38:07 pm
My problem Richard is that I tend to enjoy building boats more than sailing them. Must be something wrong with me!

Bill. :-))
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: TugFan on December 11, 2009, 06:47:35 pm
My problem Richard is that I tend to enjoy building boats more than sailing them. Must be something wrong with me!

Bill. :-))

I thought I was the only one who did that. I built a Dumas Jersey City an sailed it once.
Title: Re: Robbe Schuetze build
Post by: soldier151 on October 09, 2010, 01:17:28 am
 :police: Hi Richard, great build and lovely photos, I have one but it is put on hold as renovating a Aerokits Waveney Lifeboat.  One thing mate, the lifebelts on the side of the superstructure, when did you see gravity defying lifebelt ropes, i.e. square ones.  Cut the plastic ropes off and replace with some very fine cord and a little bracket to hold the lifebelt in place.  Can't understand why manufacters produce them like this.
Have bookmarked your post for when I get around to doing my Schultze
Soldier151