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Title: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: MOG8 on January 17, 2011, 12:20:45 pm

Does anybody have the instructions for these Anton gas valves:
ANTON: REGULATEUR DE GAZ BI-MEMBRANE
ANTON: VANNE COUPE GAZ AUTOMATIQUE AUTONOME

Thank you in advance for the help!
Cheers,
Giovanni

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: BarryM on January 17, 2011, 12:53:44 pm

Giovanni,

Anton gas valves here http://fabrice.bretagne.perso.neuf.fr/

Perhaps Fabrice Bretagne would provide instruction sheets?

Regards

Barry M

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: KBIO on January 17, 2011, 08:41:16 pm

Good evening!
Hello Mog8.
Anton gives detassl & explanations sheet with the regualtor or valves , he sells.
I shall try to get drawings and pass them to you, if this is what you need.

But from now: the bi-membrane regulator is used as a regular one. There no difference in the work itself. Just an extra membrane on top (gas side). This brings an extra barriere in case the membrane between gaz and boiler's pressure tears off.

The difference between a regular shut off valve and an automatic (vanne coupe gaz automatique autonome) is:
The standard one needs an extra gas line to supply the burner until the pre-set pressure is achieved in the boiler (+/- 1/2 bar)
When the pressure is enough , you shut off this extra gas line and the burner is now supplied through the "shut off" valve.
The other one does not need an extra line. You have to hold the "mechanism" until the pressure is reached inside the boiler. When the pressure is enough, it stands by itself.
If the pressure drops. the mechanism is released and cut the gas supply to the burner.
Hope of beeing of some help! %%
Regards. ok2

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: MOG8 on January 18, 2011, 11:32:46 am

Hello KBIO,
thank you for the help so far, yet valves diagrams and illustrations will strongly support your explaination, as there are three connection points for each valve!
I have bought these valves on ebay, darn expensive, yet still worth the price, and without instruction sheet.

<a href="http://s1017.photobucket.com/albums/af294/STEAMPROPULSION/?action=view&amp;current=anton_valves-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af294/STEAMPROPULSION/anton_valves-1.jpg" border="0" alt="ANTON GAS VALVES">[/url]

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: KBIO on January 18, 2011, 05:42:05 pm

Hello Mog8! :-)
I'll see tomorrow if I can get the original drawing and send copy to you.
What I can say is:
a)- on the left of the photo, the two items are linked together and receive the boiler pressure.
-b)(I need confirmation as I am not sure but) on the right side of both, you need to link the two ends together.
The gaz enters top/right. It comes out on the right and goes right side of the second item (regulator) , then it comes out on top side towards the burner.
I understand, it is a bit confusing , but I won't let you down and I come back tomorrow w/ everything! ok2
Regards! :-))

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: KBIO on January 18, 2011, 08:25:23 pm

Quote from: KBIO on January 18, 2011, 05:42:05 pm

Hello Mog8! :-)
I'll see tomorrow if I can get the original drawing and send copy to you.
What I can say is:
a)- on the left of the photo, the two items are linked together and receive the boiler pressure.
-b)(I need confirmation as I am not sure but) on the right side of both, you need to link the two side ports together.
The gaz enters top/right. It comes out on the right and goes right side of the second item (regulator) , then it comes out on top side towards the burner.
I understand, it is a bit confusing , but I won't let you down and I come back tomorrow w/ everything! ok2
Regards! :-))

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: MOG8 on January 19, 2011, 11:32:13 am

It is just a matter of time! Sooner or later I will get everything clear! A big thank you!

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: KBIO on January 19, 2011, 11:42:07 am

Hello Mog8!
You should have receive a mail with drawings & explamnations.
If you need some help for setting both of them, we can do this on MP!
Reagrds! ;)

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: MOG8 on January 19, 2011, 06:20:09 pm

Quote from: KBIO on January 19, 2011, 11:42:07 am

Hello Mog8!
You should have receive a mail with drawings & explamnations.
If you need some help for setting both of them, we can do this on MP!
Reagrds! ;)

A public and big thank you is due to you for having relieved me from the nightmare of the missing instructions!
A private one will follow shortly.

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: sunworksco on February 08, 2011, 03:28:21 am

Hello Giovanni,
I tried to use the internet translation button for the Anton website but it does not translate to English.
Can you help me please translate.
I love their products and would consider buying.
I am embarrased to say that I am Italiano/French but only have very limited understanding of the French language since growing up in the USA.
Kind Regards,
Ciao!
Giovanni
Northern California

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: KBIO on February 08, 2011, 10:48:40 am

Good morning! :-)
Giovani is enjoying some sun in an exotic country and would be glad to sort out your problem, I am sure. O0
In the mean time, I can help translating or explain ANTON products as I am also an inconditional in term of reliabilty and performance.
So , Sunworksco, do not hesitate to ask me in MP, mail, or here for the others to take advantage of it! ;)
All the best and cheers! :-))

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: sunworksco on February 08, 2011, 02:49:48 pm

Thank you KBIO, ok2
I especially need the translation of the fittings, valves, regulators and submarine.
Thanks,
Giovanni

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: KBIO on February 08, 2011, 05:19:32 pm

Whow!  :o
Can you give more details. I guess that you have been through Anton's web site and so , you can lead me towards what you require exactly!
I'll be glad to help.
Cheers! ok2

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: sunworksco on February 08, 2011, 08:57:10 pm

Please translate the entire Anton website? :-)
Kind Regards,
Giovanni

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on February 08, 2011, 09:01:50 pm

Just use this , It is in to English and not American though {-)

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffabrice.bretagne.perso.neuf.fr%2F

Peter

Title: Re: ANTON GAS VALVES. INSTRUCTIONS NEEDED.
Post by: sunworksco on February 09, 2011, 02:39:32 am

Thank you very much Peter. :-))
Kind Regards,
Giovanni