Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Any Other Builds => Topic started by: Mr Andy on March 21, 2011, 11:26:16 pm
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Bought this boat for a fiver, need's a fair bit of work to put it back on the water.
Andy. :-) ok2
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q311/Mr-Tomcat/Turtle.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q311/Mr-Tomcat/Quarter.jpg)
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q311/Mr-Tomcat/Portbow.jpg)
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Good starting point, what motor are you going with?
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Looks like an interesting project, look forward to seeing her rebuilt. I love these bargain finds and the joy of restoring them, keep us posted on progress, Dave. ;)
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Hi Andy,
I built a Huntsman 31, some years ago. I fitted it out with a 700BB Turbo motor and a electronize FR30HX
speed controller I have run it on 2 - 6 cell nimh 14.2v, batteries and it really goes well.
I could go up to 24v on that controller but it would be to manic for me.
good luck with the refurb.
John
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Sorry for late reply Internet was down yesterday. I was going to a put 700bb in her, however the chap who more or less bought it on my behalf has suggested an 850 so for now I might go with that. It will be a slow project I think with a shortage of money for electrics.
Hopefully with my more patient friend helping it should look quite good when it is ready.
Andy. :-)
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Always nice to see an older boat being restored instead of scrapped. Hope it now has a long life. John.
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If I can get her back into the water she will do, but she's now one of 3 that need a refurbish job, oh please please why do I bother? {-) {-)
Andy. :-)) ok2
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cos you enjoy the challenge ! i have the same joys , three huntsmen , a 28 , all wooden construction , a 31 with grp hull and just to be slightly different im building a spear with grp hull/deck
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both the hutsman 31 and the spear have been ebay rescues and were once single shafted glow powered models , due to the ever decreasing amount of inland lakes allowing glow engined models they all now operate with twin shafts and electric motors . although as i live just 100 yards from the sea they get operated in the solent ! jon
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If your so near the sea, why not leave one with a glow engine? The centre boat look's very much like the one I have here, do you have a picture of her on her own? A lot of paint off mine today, what a shoddy paint job if ever I seen one, it look's as if she's only had one coat. Anyway she floated yesterday and the hull look's nice and solid.
Andy. :-)
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none of the models were bought with glow motors fitted , just as bare hulls , although they use the commercial hulls they are slightly different in the the cabins are permenantly attached to the hulls , but have removable floor and roof sections for accsess to batteries and radio etc !
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Thank you, great help, the first pictures answered a question, now I know how to proceed. Did your boat start off with two motor's?
Have you got a stern view?
Andy. :-))
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no , it had the remains of a single shaft , and around a tub of filler on the inside of the hull , which has all been removed , it now sports a pair of stainless steel m4 shafts from no mustang mark .
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Tidy insallation of your motor's, I'll leave mine as a single screw, more about cost than anything. I take it you also planked your deck, I'll do mine after looking at yours, it look's very nice.
Andy. ok2
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Some work done through the course of the day, even bought a new sander. :}
Andy, :-) ok2
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo302/Mr-Adams_2008/Turtle3.jpg)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo302/Mr-Adams_2008/turtle2.jpg)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo302/Mr-Adams_2008/Turtle.jpg)
Only part of the hull in need of a bit of work is the bow.
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo302/Mr-Adams_2008/Bow.jpg)
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weather your fitting twin shafts or sticking with a single , you need to change the angle of the propshaft ( before you repaint the hull ) it needs to be as shallow an angle as possible to maintain maximum forward thrust .
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if its of any assistance ive also fabricated my own air scoops for the cabin sides from alluminium , as working scoops ive fabricated ducting between the outer cabin side & the inner skin of the open cockpit thus allowing some cold / fresh air down to my motors , i will take some phots of them later . jon
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Thank's Jon scoop's sound like a very good idea, as for the shaft, it look's like a huge effort will be involved with changing the angle, what I might do is test her on the lake in undercoat, then apply top coat if I'm happy.
Andy. :-)
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scoop photos as described earlier ,
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Your boat look's smart, hope mine can be brought to the same standard. Taken all the paint off hull in in good condition bar one hole, and as I said earlier need some work on her bow. Thank's for your input Jon, I have no doubt it will be a great help. :-))
Andy. :-) ok2
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thank you . its been to get wet today , runs but not yet quickly enough for my taste , so time to invest in bigger batteries ! im running on 12 volt motors which dont do so well on 7.2 volts . the scoops are made as required , if you pm me with the height from deck to cockpit , and roughly the length youd like them , they can be either polished or matt finish ready for paint .
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Good luck with the refurbish. I just bought mine of ebay this evening for £13.00, from what i could see will be mainly superstructure, and electrics. Im new to the model boat world and didnt want to initially do a a kit build, but happy to have a go at a refurb. I pick it up on Tuesday and will post pics asap. Thanks to everyone else who made comments etc on the electrics, info greatly appreciated. Look forward to the progress of your refurb. Enjoy :-)
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I bought some wood for my two refurbs yesterday, so hope to get started on the Huntsman sometime soon.
Good luck with yours Johnboscoirl, and look forward to pictures. Price of a brand new boat is £109, I was looking in the shop yesterday.
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this was an old spearfish found on a car boot sale thank god for car body filler {-)
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built the top alng the lines of a huntsman started an old sea commander now
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Another nice refurbishment, if mine looks that good I'll be very happy, what motor are you using? :-)
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running it with a enya 29 ic
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Anyone know what happened with the Huntsman?
Pre meltdown so I can't even be sure the posts are accredited correctly.
Dave
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OK I'll resurrect this thread and hope others carry one with me. The boat in the original post is mine pre meltdown, over the last few months of doing a little or nothing at all on my RTTL MK3, she is now more or less ready to be put in the water, this means I can do a little on the Huntsman.
On initial paint stripping I found the bow section to be soft and spongy on the Huntsman, this problem appears to have been cured by adding filler to the area. However on sanding down holes appeared in the bow section on the sides, I decided to get into this area and apply fibre glass but wasn't sure the best way to go about it. My friend decided the best way was to cut in through the deck, although not keen on the idea this was decided the best way forward. Using a jig saw was out of the question as it would have ruined the hull, so a Stanley knife and small saw were used instead. Fibre glass matting was added and the resin which dried in a reasonable time, it was re packed with polistyring and the section of deck replaced and filled round the edge. This section along with the rest of the deck will be planked.
The red arrows in the picture show the pilot holes, and the black arrows where the deck was cut out. :-)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo302/Mr-Adams_2008/Huntsman.jpg)
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Hi Andy
Nice to see you back on the Huntsman - I'll tag along.
Dave
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i shall keep looking in too , progress on my own 34 " version has wained , as im yachting too
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I'm not going to go rushing into getting this one done, I'd like the chines on the hull done first, then possibly plank the deck. I'll only need a motor and speed controller I think!!!! So looking at the water in a a couple of months maybe. :-)
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A couple of months is lightning fast in my book Andy.
Dave
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I'll slow down a bit then. :} :} :} No seriously sometime this year in the water would be nice. :-))
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OK, got fed up sat at the computer, so off upstairs I went. Wasn't sure if the horrble deck surface could be removed easily, so I prised a small screw driver underneath and it started coming away. Parts that were stubborn were sanded down, then removed as before with a screw driver, my deck now is flat bar some filler applied to close up minor gap's of which there aren't many.
Before starting on the planking I think the super structure can be treated to a bit of L&A and stick the two broken bit's back on, and possibly a coat of under coat. :-)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo302/Mr-Adams_2008/Hunts1.jpg)
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Hi All,
I am new to this site and a partner in crime with Mr Andy. I have recently purchased a pre owned Huntsman that had once been a static model in a shop window. When I first saw it I instantly thought of the one I have been helping Andy on. When I enquired about it I would have been happy to pay the asking price ,but not able to resist a barter, I managed to get 25% Knocked off. I hope to restore this magnificent Boat and install all the necessary equipment to get her into the water. Here is a few "pre restoration photo's. My first aim is to lift/prise off the superstructure to gain access to the hull and decide what equipment to install. She is about 46 ins in length and I would appreciate any advice as to what motor/motors to install (budget permitting).
(http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r535/Victor-55/Bobhunts4.jpg)
(http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r535/Victor-55/Bobhunts3.jpg)
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(http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r535/Victor-55/Bobhunts1.jpg)
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Looks good... what size is it?
I'm using one of these motors on mine (34" Precident)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140756164591 with a Watercooled ESC and 5200Mah 22.2V 3S lipo
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I have measured her at 47 ins length and 15 ins at the widest point of the beam. I have also made a start in "reverse engineering" to gain access to her hull. Manage to ease off the top of the cabin by running a stanley blade around the edges. A gentle persuasion or 2 with a chisel and hey presto I had access. I also photographed her alongside Andy's for comparasion. ( Andy says size doesn't matter) {-)
(http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r535/Victor-55/Huntsmen.jpg)
(http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r535/Victor-55/Bobhunts7.jpg)
(http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r535/Victor-55/Bobhunts6.jpg)
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before andy progresses much further in his restoration , change the angle of his propshaft , its far too steep and will currently result in pushing the bow down , not allowing thte hull to plane !
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I'm going to keep the shaft as it is for the first test splash, then I will take your advice. If she doesn't look bad I'll leave it as it is, as I really don't want to have to pull thr shaft out. {:-{ {:-{ {:-{
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Hey Andy - your build, and absolutely your decision but.............
I have one to refurb so I read all I could and I spoke to someone whose opinion I greatly respect.
All were in agreement about the angle of propshaft needing to be changed. I'm a lazy guy so I hate to do anything twice.
{-) just be sure to have fun whatever you decide.
Dave
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Doing something twice !!!! Yes know about that. :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed: Built a Springer a much larger Springer TBH two Graupner 700's and a pair of Electronize S/C's.
Anyway to cut a long story short, it was a total failure, and practically sunk on the first outing, took it home kept it away and forgot about it, then one day I got thinking about all them new parts I'd got wasting in a boat I couldn't use. And this is were doing a job twice comes into it, what should I do? I couldn't sail her she'd sink, pointless scrapping her only made out of wood, then I thought of the story I'd heard about Irish Ferries wanting to lengthen one of their ship's, and then it came to me, I can do that.
A decision was reached moments before I reached for my saw, I cut off the Springer bow and more luck than judgment formed a more pointy one, this of course solved the I need to sink syndrome, but she still goes head down a bit when under power.
So the morale of the story of course is this, if it ain't broken don't fix it, or in my case alter it. :D :D :D :D
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Hi,
a few pictures to show a bit of progress. I have gained access to the Hull interior and put a cut out inone of the buklheads as I think I need access in that area?
I have also started to rub the original paint work down as it had a few runs.
I have yet to decide if I am going to use twin motors or a single. Cost as always will be a factor. I am thinking (hoping ) twin motors at the moment. I will also have to put an access hatch or two in the cabin roof.
Thats all for now :}
(http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r535/Victor-55/Rubbed.jpg)
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On looking at the single page of plans I have on the Huntsman, I have decided to take advice and will re locate my shaft to a less radical angle. I'm sure it was out by .75 of an inch. :o :o
Here she is shaftless.
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo302/Mr-Adams_2008/Shaftless.jpg)
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Bit slow on my Huntsman, so last week the chines were fitted and a little while ago the second coat of resin was applied to the hull. Tomorrow I'll see if it can be sanded and perhaps sprayed with an undercoat. Here she is, looking better than I dared imagine when I first got her.
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo302/Mr-Adams_2008/Chined.jpg)
(http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo302/Mr-Adams_2008/Chined2.jpg)
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she is, looking better than I dared imagine when I first got her.
I could say the same about the wife Andy O0
no not that bit above - yes the other bit ..........
'She could be sanded' {-)
I'll be checking for progress tomorrow, so no snoozing.
Dave
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I will do my utmost later to have a bit more progress. ok2
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Was at poole a week ago and saw this
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Hi Baloo, is that Kent Clearview Window standard on the model or fitted later?
Dave
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lots of the huntsman ive seen are fitted with them ,