Model Boat Mayhem

Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: ben hall on March 28, 2011, 01:17:03 pm

Title: retiering from model boats
Post by: ben hall on March 28, 2011, 01:17:03 pm
at the end of this year i will no longer build or operate model boats
as a club members say its not even good enough to put onto a fire or put some string on it and tug it around the lake

a 12 year old boy cant do model boats

i will stay with my club for 1 year and use up all my left over gear beffore stopping i will reamain a memeber on this form forever and will watch builds and advice for when im older when i will have another go
this has just proved to me that i cant do anything let alone build boats
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: essex2visuvesi on March 28, 2011, 01:18:56 pm
Thats a bit harsh, not exactly encouraging for new members

Try another club
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: The long Build on March 28, 2011, 01:19:19 pm
Don't be Daft   <*< Tell the memeber to go and Mind His/ her own Business, if you enjoy it that is all that counts , There is another Builder on here  who has faced a lot of comments , but he just carry's on the way he wants to ..  (No Not Me)  :}
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: ben hall on March 28, 2011, 01:22:01 pm
my clubs fine just one member
 i also get alot of stick at school wich almost makes life unbarreble a just want to fit in with other children my age
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: The long Build on March 28, 2011, 01:24:22 pm
my clubs fine just one member
 i also get alot of stick at school wich almost makes life unbarreble a just want to fit in with other children my age

Only 3 of my friends at school built models, Ignore them.  Divide your time between them and your hobby.. How Old is this Member. ?

Even My Wife calls me a geek !!
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: essex2visuvesi on March 28, 2011, 01:26:05 pm
Kids can be cruel at that age

I used to get stick at work and in the pub for "playing with trains"

I would have a word with some of the other members about that member as his comments are uncalled for and are detrimental to the club.

A written complaint to the the club secretary or chairman shold do the trick  <*<

Failing that let his tyres down  :} :-))
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: tigertiger on March 28, 2011, 01:35:31 pm
my clubs fine just one member
 i also get alot of stick at school wich almost makes life unbarreble a just want to fit in with other children my age

Write to the secretary about the member.

You don't have to tell the other kids at school, if you can't ignore them.

If you are struggling with building skills, try a few of the easier kits until you get your skill up.

 BTW a kit can take me months, so don't be in a hurry. Also taking months to build gives me lots of time for other stuff. Just take time for the other stuff. It does not have to be boat models OR something else. It can be boat models AND other stuff. Some of us even have time for wives and girlfriends. But if my wife finds out about the gf I will be in deep trouble.
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: The long Build on March 28, 2011, 01:47:13 pm
Write to the secretary about the member.
 But if my wife finds out about the gf I will be in deep trouble.

 {-) {-)
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on March 28, 2011, 01:53:40 pm
Secretary on the case :-))
But try and finish ONE project at a time, trust me. Speaking from past experience, you will get nowhere if you are constantly jigging around, finishing nothing. Finish off the MTB, add your own personal touch to it and run it. Ignore the man in the skirt :-)) (from up north I assume?)
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: The long Build on March 28, 2011, 01:57:41 pm
By the way Should you not be at School ,learning and not on the site      :police: :police: :police:   :-))
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: ben hall on March 28, 2011, 02:02:43 pm
recently i fell or got pushed down concrete stairs at school i can walk a bit better now but its games all day to day and i have to get a hover then walk up a hill and all would be able to do is
.get laghed at and teased
.sit watching people kick balls and smash sticks
. get laged and teased plus attackaed again
.walk down hill get on hover and go home

so i was given the day off to do revision
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: ben hall on March 28, 2011, 02:39:11 pm
you guys are right so what if people think my boats are bad or if there mean to me i dont care i take pride in my models and dont care what people think

as for my club

there a pround club and after this i doubt if theyd take me back help or speak to me after this so maybe i need to think about a new club

thanks every one my modeling days arnt over

and ubuiltnautilass is right i am going to finish a project
 :-) ok2 ;) :-)) %) :o :} :D :embarrassed: ;D O0 {-) %% {:-{ :(( >:-o >>:-( <*< <:( 8) :P :-X :kiss: :police: :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-):-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: dodgy geezer on March 28, 2011, 02:47:23 pm

...a 12 year old boy cant do model boats ...



These are what 12-year-olds started with in the 1960s. They are quick and easy. Plans and data to make them for low (or no) cost is all there....  http://modelboats.hobby-site.com/


Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: wartsilaone on March 28, 2011, 02:53:50 pm
I used to get stick at school for liking and playing with trains. Now I am a train driver making more money than them, needless to say I don't get stick any more. Don't be put off by other peoples jealousy. If I'd started building ships at your age I would be a master by now.   :-))
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: oldiron on March 28, 2011, 03:18:43 pm
  Its been said kids are cruel to each other, how true. You have to follow the line of the junior masses and not be individual or different. Kind of ironic when you look at all the get ups that they do to be "different"
  I've been mentoring kids in a local high school. In fact I'm off this lunch hour to take on a new bunch. The first group, about 15 - 16 year olds, had to build a 5" gauge railway engine powered by batteries. Right up my alley. I had seven kids. The first session, two walked out because they thought it was a lot of B****s. The remainder set the design parameters and decided how to do it, although there were skeptics in the group that thought the project wasn't do able. I took their design and went home and built it over the next week. When I took it back they were shocked that 1) I could build anything and 2) that their design worked. The lads that left came back and one turned out to get into the swing of things with real gusto. Turned into about the best students of the bunch. They spent the rest of their semester building their  project knowing it was possible.
  The moral, don't be put off by what others think, if you know in your heart you are right. Not everyone has the vision to imagine something before it appears and not everyone has the intestinal fortitude to stand up for what they believe in. Both those things make you an individual that stands proudly out from the crowd. Anyone can be a sheep, not everyone can be the wolf.

John
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: Tutssy on March 28, 2011, 03:37:08 pm
Don't you dare retire!

For one, you are not old enough.  ok2

Seriously, if you want to build models of any description, then build them.  If it is something that give you pleasure, then do it.  If it feels right, do it.   O0

I had a 'rubbish' time at school too.  Didn't fit in then, still don't & I'm 53!.  It's not easy.  

Don't worry about what others think about you. it's what YOU think about you that matters.

It takes skill to build a model.  Whether it's a kit or from scratch doesn't matter.  You could go on to build models professionally for museums or for the film industry.  

I am a single father who brought his children up with the belief that they can do anything they want.  You can too.

The *expletive* at school are bullies.  Go see the head about it.  Don't suffer in silence like I did.

I look forward to see your posts in the future, dude.  I shall be checking too. O0

Regards  Al
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: grasshopper on March 28, 2011, 03:54:30 pm
I got bullied at school too, only pupil from a mixed-race family in a small school in Kent in the narrow minded 60's  (and I had to wear NHS 'tojo' glasses) , got a good kicking most days. It was my late sister that eventually sorted the school bully - he never did live down getting a pasting from a girl.  They say what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

My first 'model boars were made from bits of old floor-boards, broom sticks and bamboo poles with plastic bags for sails (some say not much better now). Used to sail them in storm drains or 'nullahs'  - but I stuck with it and ignored the ribbing and mickey takers.

Don't give up anything you want to do because of peer pressure - be your own person and if you're not allowed to get on with it tell a responsible adult, there are systems in place to help you, you do not have to suffer in silence.

As for the so called mature member of your club, he needs a flea in his ear. If you have any problems with him print of all of the replies from this thread and let him read them. It might make him realise the harm he's doing to you, your club's reputation and for his own credibility
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: pugwash on March 28, 2011, 04:04:12 pm
Ben I thought you were really enthusiast about model boats - I have seen some of your questions about MTBs  and you obviously wanted
to get things right -  if you have that sort or interest I don't think you should take a sudden decision to pack it all in.  In a few years time you
will have a far greater knowledge than me and will have the skill to make brilliant models.  What would you rather do waste the day playing
computer games or have something to show for it at the end.  As for the club member well a letter or a quiet word to the club secretary
definitely seems the way to go.

KEEP GOING.

Geoff
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: ben hall on March 28, 2011, 04:28:52 pm
thanks i will carry on and sort out the problems i have at school and at the club 
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: PMK on March 28, 2011, 04:32:51 pm
How quickly your attitude has changed from your initial post to that of your reply in post #10.

 Moderated - Martin - Amin.

 Besides, are you going to let a bunch of no-marks ruin what should otherwise be your enjoyable hobby?
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: Tutssy on March 28, 2011, 04:46:47 pm
PMK

That's because of all the positive feedback he has received from members of this forum.

He is 12, therefore not in a position to 'pop his cherry' legally.

As for the spelling and punctuation, I agree.  Apart from the waaaaay bit, which, you so eloquently put in.  There are a lot of members here who could do with a bit of tuition in that department.

Regards.
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on March 28, 2011, 04:47:50 pm


as for my club

there a pround club and after this i doubt if theyd take me back help or speak to me after this so maybe i need to think about a new club

thanks every one my modeling days arnt over

and ubuiltnautilass is right i am going to finish a project.

Your Club is proud of what it has achieved in its 25 years in existence, usually achieved by drop outs, weirdos, geeks, scotsmen, et al. We have an open door policy, if you can put up with us, we will put up with you ( Tony!!! ). Try to develop a bit of a thick skin and you should be able to put up with the occasional Thick Head!!

And I bet i can finish a project before you :-))
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: Tutssy on March 28, 2011, 05:06:29 pm
Don't know what the club has to be proud about.  They should be supporting him whole heartedly.

As for an 'open door policy', it should work both ways.  If you don't like it, leave. 

And why would YOU bet bet that YOU can finish a project before him?

I didn't realise that it was a race.  At 12 years old he has studying.

Leave him alone to get on with his project at a pace that suits him and not YOU.

Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: ben hall on March 28, 2011, 05:18:04 pm
unbuiltnaughtilass is a fellow club member and a friend he was only joking and knowing him it will take him a year to finish a project :D
as for the club the club is a brilliant club and every one there is behind me but what you've helped me realize is that you don't always get along with everyone and i will do studies


not to sure what to say about pop my cherry  :embarrassed: {-)

do you like the spelling
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: dodgy geezer on March 28, 2011, 05:20:05 pm

We have an open door policy, if you can put up with us, we will put up with you...


I wouldn't want to join a club that would accept me as a member.....

(with apologies to GM) :} :}
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on March 28, 2011, 05:21:49 pm
I wouldn't want to join a club that would accept me as a member.....

(with apologies to GM) :} :}

You would make an ideal secretary, will keep you in mind for the next AGM!!!
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: Tutssy on March 28, 2011, 05:30:52 pm
Glad everything is good with the club etc. . .

Studies are very important.  Unfortunately, these days you have to have it in writing that you have a brain. 



The ability to use it however, appears to be optional.


Regards  Al
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: john s 2 on March 29, 2011, 09:00:25 pm
I hope all goes well for you now. Hope fully you can find someone at your club who will take take the time
to mentor and help you. Wishing you well now and for the future. John.
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: John Mk2 on March 29, 2011, 09:18:10 pm
Your Club is proud of what it has achieved in its 25 years in existence, usually achieved by drop outs, weirdos, geeks, scotsmen, et al. We have an open door policy, if you can put up with us, we will put up with you ( Tony!!! ). Try to develop a bit of a thick skin and you should be able to put up with the occasional Thick Head!!

And I bet i can finish a project before you :-))

Spot on ! Been there  :-))
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: mikearace on March 29, 2011, 09:21:19 pm
Hey KK if you built it, and its yours then its good enough regardless of what anyone else says. As for kids at school, well from your posts and your questions you obviously have a meaningful life and something to focus on and develop yourself with which is no doubt much more than they have. Dont let the XXXXXXX's grind you down!    
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: triumphjon on March 29, 2011, 09:28:18 pm
maybe if kk were to change his attitude towards others he might get on better with others , its purely down to his attitude and poop stirring nature that has stopped me from using the local lake !
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: nhp651 on March 29, 2011, 09:40:08 pm
KK, you sound a veryfed up young man at the moment, and i wonder whether youhave told your parents how you feel, and how you are being treated at school.
let's disregard the club aspect and the way in which one very narrow minded member has treated you[all clubs have one or two loiterers like that, who give little and take much,
but from your comments on all things, you have hit rock bottom because of the bullying [for want of a better word] and this can have serious consequences for young lads entering puberty.
as an ex teacher of 22 years, and a person who hmself suffered bullying at school, i led at times a one man crusade in school against bullying.........sometimes because head teachers WOULDN'T admit that it went on in their schools.
tell your mum and dad and talk to them. if you can't talk to them, then please, please please.......phone CHILDLINE on 0800 1111....THEY WILL HELP YOU.

they can[in total confidence and need not tell your parents if you so wish] contact your school and make sure that your school takes the matter seriously.
they can also prosecute any one over the age of 11[the age of criminal liability] for mental and physical; abuse.

but remember, YOU ARE NOT ALONE..............there is always someone out there or here that can and will offer you help, advise and comfort when you are feeling down and low.......

take care young man, and take the first step to making sure that you are not bullied any more.
best wishes, neil.
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: 6705russell on March 29, 2011, 09:45:24 pm
Well put Neil, I was trying to think of something like that to say, my lad was bullied at school last year and it took nearly six months of abuse before he finally broke down and told me...

Krafty kid, if there is a need for someone to talk to Pm me and I will listen and if possible offer some advice as would Neil...

Russ
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: Yarpie on March 29, 2011, 10:38:08 pm
With the greatest of respect fellow mayhemmers, please try and get this subject in context.

It is entirely possible that what was allegedly said was said in jest.

This issue has soured what was a good display (and, incidentally a good PR exercise) on Sunday where the club supported another local event.

I feel sure that any complaint (if made through the formal channels) would be investigated within twenty four hours and any appropriate action taken by the club committee.

The lad himself still maintains that the club he belongs to is 'a proud club' and he confirms that he has had no end of support from the membership in general. That, mayhemmers, is fact.

This whole saga may boil down to the ability (or inability) to interpret a soundbite of banter, something that is refreshingly prevalent at his club, and indeed, if I may make so bold, on this excellent forum as well. ;)
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: dodgy geezer on March 29, 2011, 10:49:06 pm

This whole saga may boil down to the ability (or inability) to interpret a soundbite of banter....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rKYL0tW-Ek  refers..... :D :D
Title: Re: retiering from model boats
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 29, 2011, 11:43:57 pm
All we'll leave it there....

Topic cleaned up and locked.

Martin - Admin.