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Title: money
Post by: regiment on May 18, 2011, 12:53:23 pm
saw this in the paper today thought G B WAS BROKE
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Title: Re: money
Post by: Colin Bishop on May 18, 2011, 12:55:02 pm
Now you know why!  :}
Title: Re: money
Post by: regiment on May 18, 2011, 12:56:40 pm
but dose the goverment know what we now
Title: Re: money
Post by: The long Build on May 18, 2011, 01:05:59 pm
I have always said that when I win the Lottery big style, You know not any of the small ones but anything over say 50 million  I will donate to Charity,( I would donate as well if I won smaller but I amm hoping for the 50 Million) However not with Cash.. I will find out what specific equipment they need and then source it myself and donate that, it will also have a clause on it stating that it can not be sold within 5 years without my Consent, as I am not having my money pay for new carpets and wallpaper.   <*< <*<
Title: Re: money
Post by: Circlip on May 18, 2011, 01:27:47 pm
Hopefully, we're going to save 4point odd Billion on the NHS computer system by writing off the 2.6 Billion we've aready spent on it when it should have cost 7 but it won't work.

  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: money
Post by: omra85 on May 18, 2011, 05:06:29 pm

... as I am not having my money pay for new carpets and wallpaper.


I don't think it's carpets and wallpaper they buy!  When I've seen TV reports on starving masses, especially in Africa, and the camera pans away from the small baby covered in flies - there is usually a lorry load of well fed "army types" all carrying the latest guns!
I suppose they need the guns to stop the starving stealing the "army rations" we have paid for  %) %) >>:-( >>:-(

Danny
Title: Re: money
Post by: scoop on May 18, 2011, 05:53:15 pm
I have always said that when I win the Lottery big style, You know not any of the small ones but anything over say 50 million  I will donate to Charity,( I would donate as well if I won smaller but I amm hoping for the 50 Million) However not with Cash.. I will find out what specific equipment they need and then source it myself and donate that, it will also have a clause on it stating that it can not be sold within 5 years without my Consent, as I am not having my money pay for new carpets and wallpaper.   <*< <*<
If I won that sort of money I would buy my own 10 acre lake  :} :-))
Scoop
Title: Re: money
Post by: Dekan on May 18, 2011, 06:10:00 pm
Nobody knows where the "Foreign Aid" actual goes to... Maybe the government use it to bribe their "friends" or maybe they just pocket it....I have always thought that it's the perfect scam.... 
Title: Re: money
Post by: The long Build on May 18, 2011, 06:54:47 pm
If I won that sort of money I would buy my own 10 acre lake  :} :-))
Scoop

Well that was just assumed as any way.. Only 10 acre
Title: Re: money
Post by: Netleyned on May 18, 2011, 07:00:25 pm
Once it's gone it's gone
Despots pockets
Certainly not to the people who need it
Even the Red Cross and other agencies
lose sight of the aid after it lands in the
country.
Did the Bangladesh floods in the 60's and
saw it at first hand what was being squirreled away
by the 'official' organisation on the ground

Power Corrupts
Absolute Power makes Millionaires

Ned
Title: Re: money
Post by: Jonty on May 18, 2011, 08:51:07 pm
  Where does the money go? Thirty-odd years ago you always knew when the family planning teams had been around in Afghanistan and NWFP (Pakistan) - the kids all had balloons.
Title: Re: money
Post by: scoop on May 19, 2011, 08:41:17 am
Well that was just assumed as any way.. Only 10 acre
Yep plenty big enough for all to enjoy  :}
Scoop
Title: Re: money
Post by: dreadnought72 on May 19, 2011, 09:28:33 am
8.7bn - a big number for most people - is just over half a percent of the UK's GDP.

I see that as a cheap sum for continuing security and goodwill from potentially unstable or failing nations. Certainly it is compared to the 25bn recently quoted for a new set of ballistic missile submarines.

Andy
Title: Re: money
Post by: regiment on May 19, 2011, 02:23:15 pm
pakistan   india  FAILING NATIONS !!!  i do not think so
Title: Re: money
Post by: dreadnought72 on May 19, 2011, 03:35:46 pm
Me neither.

Try potentially unstable.
Title: Re: money
Post by: Bryan Young on May 20, 2011, 07:43:23 pm
Some of you older members (I should have said "long serving" members) may recall that in my long running saga about my life at sea I talked about what I saw happening in Djibouti in 1979. A ship loaded with foodstuffs was tied up astern of a Russian ship.
The food (I think came from the answers to one of Geldorfs appeals) was loaded directly into the Russian ship, which was simultaneously offloading mobile weapons platforms.
Never just give money if you can avoid it. Can't think how, but there must be a way. BY.
Title: Re: money
Post by: regiment on May 20, 2011, 08:04:50 pm
also what happened to the money that bob  geldodfs  and co received on  save the world  thing millions
Title: Re: money
Post by: dave301bounty on May 20, 2011, 08:50:57 pm
This is an answer to Brian ,or rather another scheme I was witness to . 1968 we had just loaded about 10000 tons wheat in B C  Canada ,a gift to the starving in I ndia , we docked outside Columbo ,couldnt get in ,disbute over who unloads , next thing we are told to give it to the fish ,it had got wet and was dangerous ,this was because of waiting for 7 days ,with the hatches open waiting for the barges . Needless to say the good people of B C  were never told .sad innit ,and these things still happen .
Title: Re: money
Post by: richtea on May 20, 2011, 11:19:29 pm
Can any one reasonably justify giving millions of pounds to any nation that
spends money on building nuclear weapons while a large proportion of its
own populace starves ?
I don't mind donating clothes or food in a natural disaster,
but governments and dictators buying arms and military equipment
while holding out the begging bowl for its people makes my blood boil.

When the men in charge start to look after the poor and needy on  their
own doorstep then I will be more generous when the envelopes arrive in the post
asking for our money.
Title: Re: money
Post by: essex2visuvesi on May 20, 2011, 11:41:43 pm
Im not going to go into details but having worked (IT Contract) for a well known so called "Charity" its one you are all probably all well aware of I wouldn't give them a penny.  The money that was wasted was horrific

Donate clothes etc yes but watch who exactly is getting them,

My money goes to deserving Charities either in the UK or Finland.
Title: Re: money
Post by: dreadnought72 on May 20, 2011, 11:46:56 pm
...governments and dictators buying arms and military equipment
while holding out the begging bowl for its people makes my blood boil.

Bit like this country then, richtea. Do we need £25bn of new ballistic missile subs - plus a couple of bloated aircraft carriers - while the people are "being held responsible" in terms of bailing out the bankers? Or should that be re-lining their pockets?

To be honest, I'm sick of the hypocrisy I get foistered on me from Westminster. Good thing I voted SNP.  %)

Andy
Title: Re: money
Post by: richtea on May 20, 2011, 11:58:55 pm
Your lucky you have a political party that looks after your area.
I always vote, but now I waste it by voting UKIP.
Title: Re: money
Post by: gingyer on May 21, 2011, 05:49:39 pm
Your lucky you have a political party that looks after your area.

Good to see someone with a sense of Humour....anyhow...
I watched a program recently about overseas aid given by China.....superb system,
they ask the country what they need (program showed a hospital) sent over a team to build it (all the construction team stayed on site in portacabins no fancy hotels)
meanwhile they took uni graduates or hghly qualified people from the county to china to train them as doctors/ nurses etc
by the time the hospital was built the sent over chinese doctors for a few years to get it up and running then handed it over to the doctors/ nurses they had trained to run
then sent over required medicines and materials to keep the hospital running then a team from the chinese embassy looked in occasionaly to see how it was coping and help when required.

Saved far more money than our way of giving them money hand over fist to squander away.
Title: Re: money
Post by: BarryM on May 21, 2011, 06:13:19 pm
Money?? Hm, yes, I remember that. Crinkly, jingly stuff....  but then I got married.  <:(

Barry M
Title: Re: money
Post by: Colin Bishop on May 21, 2011, 06:24:31 pm
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Saved far more money than our way of giving them money hand over fist to squander away.

And in exchange they were granted a monopoly of the Country's mineral rights...
Title: Re: money
Post by: gingyer on May 21, 2011, 06:27:09 pm
apparently no Colin
the report said they didn't get anything in return
Title: Re: money
Post by: Dekan on May 21, 2011, 06:30:47 pm
I read somewhere recently that theres a league table of corrupt countries/states....reputedly we are in the top twenty. Its nice to know that we are good at something :}
Title: Re: money
Post by: Dave13 on May 21, 2011, 06:44:28 pm
Money?? Hm, yes, I remember that. Crinkly, jingly stuff....  but then I got married.  <:(

Barry M

Same here mate I have to ask before I spent now and then its not a lot <:( <:( LOL
Title: Re: money
Post by: Colin Bishop on May 21, 2011, 06:53:36 pm
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apparently no Colin
the report said they didn't get anything in return

My comment was a bit tongue in cheek but it is true to say thet the Chinese are working their way into a very influential position in many of the African countries and in the process cornering the market in certain rare minerals essential to mainstream manufacturing processes which puts them in a very strong pposition commercially.

Colin
Title: Re: money
Post by: Dekan on May 21, 2011, 08:19:12 pm
Colin, The Chinese understand human rights African style..
Title: Re: money
Post by: gingyer on May 21, 2011, 08:34:53 pm
Colin, The Chinese understand human rights African style..

I didn't say the chinese were perfect but maybe we should look at the way they do overseas aid %)
Title: Re: money
Post by: Jonty on May 21, 2011, 10:55:29 pm
  You may have gathered from previous posts that I have spent a lot of time in India, and like the country and its people. It does strike me as odd, however, that whilst we give them aid, they have a very substantial foreign aid programme of their own.
Title: Re: money
Post by: Jonty on May 21, 2011, 11:16:23 pm
  Actually, Dekan, Britain is number 20 in the list of least corrupt countries. No great distinction, I grant you... And India is placed at 87 in the most corrupt list, which must be a big improvement on the past.
Title: Re: money
Post by: snowwolflair on May 21, 2011, 11:22:24 pm
Collin is correct.  There are parts of Africa where Mandarin is standard.

And when the local government wants to open a mining business who do they turn to but the Chinese who built them a railway line or a hospital.

There is no contractural linkage, just an inevitable good will.
Title: Re: money
Post by: Dekan on May 21, 2011, 11:30:37 pm
  Actually, Dekan, Britain is number 20 in the list of least corrupt countries. No great distinction, I grant you... And India is placed at 87 in the most corrupt list, which must be a big improvement on the past.

Sorry if I conveyed the wrong impression... that is in deed what I meant.... 20 strikes me as pretty poor for a country thats all ways telling other nations how to behave.
Title: Re: money
Post by: Colin Bishop on May 22, 2011, 09:10:58 am
Who made up the list - the Iranians...? Anybody can say anything and there are still people happy to believe them. Many people will be waking up this morning disappointed that the world didn't come to an end as predicted after all...

Chicanery knows no boundaries.

Colin
Title: Re: money
Post by: john s 2 on May 22, 2011, 07:07:46 pm
Bit confused here. I understand that Britain still gives foreign aid to China. Yet China can afford to give aid
to other countries. Seems to me we give the money, they get the credit and perks that come from this. John.