Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Lifeboats => Topic started by: returnee on June 28, 2011, 09:39:50 pm
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I am contemplating building either Speedline 1/16 Severn lifeboat or Model Slipway 1/16 Tamar. As only my second build ( my first being Slipways Yorkshireman) I would appreciate your help and knowledge to decide which you consider would be the best one to start with.
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value for money Model slipway every time,
I have just finished theTamar and I am very happy with the results,
I have been told that speedline instructions are not very informative,
Barry
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value for money Model slipway every time,
I have just finished theTamar and I am very happy with the results,
I have been told that speedline instructions are not very informative,
Barry
that's a very subjective view and statement to make, tubby, having not owned or built a speedline model yourself.
i have owned 4 speedline 1;12 scale boats over the past 6 or so years and have two of them are awaiting build at the mo...a trent and a severn.
true their instructions are sparce, and they are a "semi kit", and sometimes bits are missing, but that goes for any manufacturer, but they build into beautiful models, they are expensive, but give hours of pleasure AND frustration, whereas the model slipway is a full kit, good instructions and looks exceedingly well and at a good price with a good after sales service.
NOW, that being an objective view of the two different manufactures, returnee might be able to then make a creative decision as to which model they would like. but please give the whole story not just second hand snippets.
neil
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Thanks to both Tubby and nhp651. I take both your comments to heart, but havingonly built one model prior to this I think that I may require more information on the build.
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As a owner/builder of the Speedline Trent which I have found both extremely frustrating and enjoyable to build, these Speedline semi-kits
are not for a beginner and do state that fact, as you say it will be your second model.
The very first model I built was a Model slipway Conserver which was a joy to build and a pleasure to sail. That was about 15 models ago.
Think hard and read the posts on this subject and also the lifeboat threads before you make a decision.
john
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true their instructions are sparce, and they are a "semi kit"
Neil,
When you say 'semi-kit', what do you mean?? I thought they were complete.
Like returnee, they are the two kits I'm looking at, (I'd prefer the Trent to the Tamar but it's listed as out of production)
Mark
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Hi Mark, I know you have asked Neil to explain about the semi-kit so I hope you dont mind me jumping in and trying to answer your question,Neil will correct me if I am wrong. The making up of a full model is done by purchasing various "sets"
1 Wheelhouse and hull set.
2 Detail set
3 castings set
4 Handrails, stanchions & kicking board set
5 Running set
6 Window set
7 Screw set
8 Miscellaneous
You purchase what sets as you require when you require when and if you require them to complete the model ( this is a semi-kit )
Speedline is such a kit.
Model Slipway is a complete kit apart from motors ESP etc
hope this helps
john
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Hi there, all points made so far are valid. Speedline are more difficult due to the more limited instructions, though I think the 1/16 Severn's are more comprehensive than their 1/12 one. You have to do a lot of research yourself and some builders have had difficulty sorting out any problems with the semi-kits, although I think this is being sorted out. Model Slipway are great for those with their clear instructions, great after sales service and the fact you can get pretty much everything you need off them.
The Trent WILL be back in production in around a years time, it's getting the CNC treatment, same as their Maggie M and Yorkshireman kits did. It should make building easier, cutting out most of the parts is made much simpler. There maybe a couple of the older kits out there for sale at some dealers. Another factor to consider is the price differences, 1/16 Severn £650, 1/16 Trent around £300, big difference there.
I've built a Model Slipway Trent and though frustrating at times (like any kit) it was a thoroughly enjoyable build. I've also got a 1/12 Speedline Severn sitting in the garage waiting to be built, I've had to do a lot of resarch for it and will hopefully be making a start on it before the end of the year.
There is a part built 1/16 Speedline Severn in the sales section that may be of interest? Dave. :-))
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speedline do excellent models but you have to be a experience model maker to do them justice otherwise it be a complete waste of money. the trent retails around 850 but with glues, spray cans , extras and all rc gear your talking serious money. if your confident you can build to a good standard you wont be disappointed with the end results. that goes with any kit i suppose ! built both slipways and speedline trent and theres no comparison if im truthful the speedline one when completed looks the dogs "xxxxx" but treble the price . model slipway do good kits at reasonable prices. the tamar ? you either love em or hate em. for me its bloody horrible, no character. i know we got to change with the times but for me i like my lifeboats to be traditional.
built metcalfs rother, ann letitia russell also, both suburb, pretty models full of character and great value for money. end of the day the choice is yours we all have our own opinions but unfortunately it usually comes down to money and capabilities what you take on. take your time choosing and good luck.
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i think all those points above are correct and very constructive critisism of both kits.
i would just like to add to john's explanation in that a full kit , as john and others say, contains everything for building except glues paints and motors, whereas in a semi kit, you usually have to buy in such things as wood for decking[not the lifeboats though] and materials such as brass for rails and such, thread plastics in some ircumstances etc.also with speedline, there are usually no plans for the boat, and you have to contact the RNLI in poole for these things, which all add to the price, but also to the research..then there are the photos of the exact boat you want to build, more expense if you can't find a friendly hon sec[ DLA, as they are now called] or a nice crewman to take hundreds of photos for you.
so there you are.....a full picture for you to think about.
neil.
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no contest Speedline 1/16 Severn lifeboat , there boats have always been well made so my opinion of what I have seen of speedline kits is go for one of them, they have been very innovative with there choice of materials.
I have not built a kit of my own but helped someone build a speedline kit.
Peter
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I have just completed the Slipway Trent , a very enjoyable 14 months work and some frustrations buit she looks great on the water , (Photos and Video on the Solent RCMBC website ). Not for a inexperienced builder , I used speedline windows and figures which were excellent . I had to carry out some modifications using RNLI plans to alter the rear of teh wheelhouse to accomodate the outboard motor , modified dinghy box , modified engine room hatch area , improved detail to inside of cabin, seats ,seat bases etc etc.
Speaking to Jackie at Slipway she telld me it will possibly be TWO years before the Trent is available again . We have a club member building the Speedline Trent and he is having a difficult time of it with the perspex superstructure and lots of frustration , this one is definitely not for a beginner to build .
I usually scratchbuild or use Semi Kits as my speciality is scale warships and apart from Deans Marine you have to work from the plans upwards and have no instructions .
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Link to horatio's Slipway's Trent, it is excellent. :-))
Photos http://www.srcmbc.org.uk/photo_galleries/gallery_albums/RNLB_Maurice_and_Joyce_Hardy_2/index.html
Film http://www.srcmbc.org.uk/photo_galleries/gallery_albums/RNLB_Maurice_and_Joyce_Hardy_2/movie.php
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Just had a look at the film - what a cracking model - a read credit to the builder.
Geoff
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I agree Speedline kits built to their full potential are fabulous BUT treble the price of others? I think the superstructure for the 1/16 Severn is over complex, why not just do the same as the 1/12 scale and do it as mouldings? That's why I went for 1/12, easier construction of the superstructure. I thought the Model Slipway Trent would take longer than a year to reappear, but I'm sure it will worth the wait. I'm glad Metcalf Mouldings have been mentioned, their current 1/12 lifeboats 37ft Rother Class, 41ft Watson and Waveney Class are all great models and very good value for money I think. They have a new lifeboat kit on the way soon.
As for the Tamar, the styling isn't to everyones taste. More form following function, but having seen them in the flesh so to speak they're a very impressive piece of kit, as are all the modern lifeboats. I don't know which kit you'll choose to do, but the Trent will be out if unavailable and nobody has an older kit in stock, also if you want to build it as they are currently in service you will have to modify the kit slightly as there are differences, but nothing too major (this maybe done by Model Slipway before they reintroduce it?). I think with one Model Slipway build already the Tamar would be a good choice, but the Speedline 1/16 Severn is equally achievable if you take your time and do the research on the particular boat you want to build. I've loads of photos of Holyheads Severn 'Christopher Pearce' taken in January if that's any use to anyone. Hope this is of some use and hope you keep us posted whatever you decide to do, Dave. :-))
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Hi Mark, I know you have asked Neil to explain about the semi-kit so I hope you dont mind me jumping in and trying to answer your question,Neil will correct me if I am wrong. The making up of a full model is done by purchasing various "sets"
1 Wheelhouse and hull set.
2 Detail set
3 castings set
4 Handrails, stanchions & kicking board set
5 Running set
6 Window set
7 Screw set
8 Miscellaneous
John, I've seen those packs mentioned for the 1/12 scale boats, but the following line is in the description for the 1/16 Severn
Every part required to complete the model is in the box and I am talking detail here!
Mark
I take it that's for a static model only though :-)
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For an RC model you'll have to supply all the electrical components, motors, bow thruster etc. and I think brass props and rudders, think it comes with shafts. Im guessing a complete Speedline 1/16 Severn will end up costing at least £1000 easy when it's all added up, Dave. :-(
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probably about right there number 6. ...... value for money my opinion no. i could buy meself a new lap top, a nice camera plus a petrol lawn mower or whatever for the price of a box of bits and bobs with no real instructions or plans , a bit harsh some may say , but true.
model slipway kits are fine if you like plastic ! very good instructions and if im honest probably the best out there but for me very plasticity !
for me , again my personal apinion metcalf mouldings offers the best value for money lifeboat kits if there was a such a thing !! all at 1/12 scale, full kits, very authentic looking and if built well would be worthy in any museum .
all kits have there faults , construction methods etc but the lesser the faults the far less it will end in the bin or left on the bench :}
a lifeboat needs to be built in pristine condition without any real blemishes. there are not tugs, fishing boats or trawlers where mistakes can be covered up or disguised. be honest with yourself what you take on, could save yourself a few bob and one major headache . it should be a pleasure with many many enjoyable hours and not a burden. happy building fellas.
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Spot on Typhoon, I only got my 1/12 Severn as it was a bargain buy off a friend. I wouldn't have paid full price for one. Could get all three Metcalf Lifeboats for the price of one 1/12 Speedline. Most of the enjoyment I get from a boat is in the build and like you say it should be a pleasure not a burden, Dave. :-))
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Very interesting comments chaps, but it all comes down to what the back pocket can afford, now I not defending Speedline but there is not a model lifeboat semi kit you can buy that comes anywhere near the finish you will get when built.
You only get what you pay for :D :D
Phil.
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I agree, when a Speedline lifeboat is built to it's full potential they are superb, but still expensive. I know there's a limited market for them and that will drive up production costs, you've got to be dedicated and highly skilled to get your moneys worth out of one. The 1/12s aren't for a beginner I think. I'm looking forward to starting on my 1/12 Severn but I know it's going to be a challenge, but fun and rewarding. I'll be doing a build thread on here so keep a look out, just got to finish my Our Lass 2 and do a few other things. Dave. :-))
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well Number 6 when its done you can enjoy like this :-)) :-))
(http://s1.postimage.org/214rmv5hg/Newhaven_openday_Toms_pics_152.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/214rmv5hg/)
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i think we all agree speedline models are superb but i disagree you only get what you pay for comment. a couple of glass fibre mouldings, some etched brass, a few fittings , detailed windows etc etc quality yes but sorry cant see 1000 quid worth .i we have to agree to disagree there !! yes we all got to make a living and end of the day its up to the customer to decide. dont get me wrong here i have built the trent about 5 yrs ago but only brought hull and superstructure and window kit then bought fittings from slipway and scratched built most items. at the time it was the best option for me and enjoyed the build very much and had no real problems . good thing about speedline is you can spread the cost over several yrs and buy parts when needed . top marks for that :-)). i wish other kit manufactures would do the same.
as for beginners kits there's not such a thing. all good models are built over a good period of time with lots and lots of patience. most dont need rocket science but you just cant buy experience regardless of kit.
all this talking about lifeboats as wet me old appetite yet again. now my next challenge Mmmmmm ! {-)
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well Number 6 when its done you can enjoy like this :-)) :-))
(http://s1.postimage.org/214rmv5hg/Newhaven_openday_Toms_pics_152.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/214rmv5hg/)
Looks great on the water, top marks, looking forward to starting mine, Dave.
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This looks OK to me.
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John, I've seen those packs mentioned for the 1/12 scale boats, but the following line is in the description for the 1/16 Severn
Mark
I take it that's for a static model only though :-)
Hi CF-FZG,
Yes you are right it is a breakdown of the sets for a Speedline Severn. they were the only instructions available
Adrian had not written one for the Trent at the time the Trent was purchased.
The idea was to try to explain what a semi-kit was, not a shopping list for a particular model.
I hope I havent given anyone the wrong idea as to what a semi-kit is.
john
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My understanding of a semi-kit (now that I've started a Speedline Tamar), is that it is a fairly comprehensive set of parts with some instructions, which with a little additional scratch building, and a necessary background of modelmaking skills, can produce a really accurate, detailed model. The Speedline parts are beautifully made and detailed, but with limited instructions you need to have an understanding of scratch building to use them successfully.
I made a Billings kit (Will Everard Thames Barge) a few years back. That was a proper "kit" and that had everything you needed bar glue and paint, and full instructions to make a nice model.....but nothing to compare with what the Speedline will look like!
Chris
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a semi kit doesn't even have to have intructions or plans , neither does it have to contain timber or plastics to be classed as a semi kit..just the raw materials of hull and fittings.
sirmar were one of the greatest exponents of the semi kit, although they did put in plans, but no instructions.
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Its writing the detail build instructions that take the time and therefore affect the cost
I think that if you purchase a Speedline kit you will probably be a serious modeller and have a better understanding of building models
I find the most enjoyable part of modelling is solving the difficult issues.
Fifie
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Its writing the detail build instructions that take the time and therefore affect the cost
Fifie
you are correct there fifie.....writing a set of instructions or drawing a good set of plans to match the instructions can take many many hours.
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I think perhaps I should point out that there are some quite serious errors in some of the postings I have read in this topic which do need correcting simply because they are wrong and must have a negative impact on the sale of Speedline’s products.
The topic title is ‘Speedline or Model Slipway’ and since the topic is under ‘Lifeboats’ I presume we are talking lifeboats here.
In comparing the Speedline Trent to the Slipway Trent I would say this:
The Models Slipways 1/16th Trent is a complete kit that cost around £250 (if I remember correctly).
The Speedline 1/12th Trent is not a full kit in as much as there are no plans supplied (they have to be bought from the RNLI HQ in Poole) and there are a few small items that were not included in the kit but are very simple to make.
It was Speedline’s first product and was introduced ten years ago and it is fair to say that things have moved on a bit since then. It’s certainly true that if Model Slipway are re-engineering their Trent then this is probably why. It’s been around for a long time and they are perhaps taking the initiative to update the kit to suite today’s market place since it was always a great seller.
(Perhaps Speedline will do the same with their Trent for much the same reasons).
If considering the Speedline 1/16th Severn I would say this;
It is a full kit (and just a bit more than a moulding, a couple of etched brass sheets and some castings). It actually comprises of a GRP hull with a GRP deck already moulded on (a good quality item laid up for Speedline by Andy Griggs of Models by Design).
Eight sheets of 1.5mm Perspex carry the 203 laser cut components that make up into the wheelhouse.
Eight sheets of various thickness Perspex sheets carry hundreds of detailing items. These are produced by one of the country’s best architectural model makers.
Five (large) sheets of etched brass and nickel silver carry many more items and these are produced by perhaps the premier photo fabrication laboratory in the land (well, Scotland to be fair), PPD Ltd.
Brass props, stainless steel prop-shafts running in bronze bushes (in the shafts and the ‘A’ Frames) are supplied and couplings and a motor mount are also included.
The kit has all the hand railings cast in Pewter as are over a hundred other items. All these are moulded by CMA Moldform (in Birmingham) who are the UK’s premier model casting company (see their website).
Decals for your chosen lifeboat are included in the price and are produced by David Leftley (of David Leftly Graphics). He is well known for his remarkable instrument dials for model aircraft and is one heck of a model engineer himself. See his website, he can produce any decals you like. Marvellous bloke.
The kit has full instructions with over 400 photos of the real thing and fully detailed and itemised plans showing plan, end elevations, port and starboard views and all were drawn by me, from scratch, from measurements taken from the Newhaven Lifeboat.
All this was done to bring the customer the best quality and best value for money I know how and by doing this I hope to earn a bit too. If this model was sold in retailers it would cost well over a £1000. (My selling price is £650 so add 40% for the distributor plus another 40% for the retailer. That’s £1,245. Then theres 20% VAT!
Speedline sell direct to the customer.
You always get what you pay for.
The 1/12 Severn is a full kit. It has plans, instructions and lots of photos too supplied on a CD and is now supplied with printed full size plans too.
The 1/12th Tamar is also a full kit. It’s the latest Lifeboat kit from Speedline and it includes full size plans and hundreds of photos. There are very comprehensive drawings for all the detailed stages of build supplied on a CD and full size printed plans.
The Severn and the Tamar are both museum quality models when put together and painted well.
There is nothing like them on the market but I should say that when comparing lifeboat kits, consider the lifeboat mouldings available from Models by Design and the very nice kits (of some very nice subjects) from Dave Metcalfe whose Ann Letitia Russel, a 41 foot Watson for example is lovely and it’s £350.
I think all represent good value for money (knowing how hard they are to produce).
Some people express opinions on things as if they were expert when they are not (we have some in our local). Investigate what you fancy for yourself, go and see the kits for yourself or seek advice from someone who has actually built one (or tried to). Read reviews and try Google and the more subjective views on Model Boat Mayhem of course.
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Not really a balanced review of the kits available is it.
More of an ad for Speedline. {:-{
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agreed with one thing mr flundle the ann letitia russell is a cracking model and to build. all for the price of 325. a great display model as well , worthy in any home or museum.
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Not really a balanced review of the kits available is it.
More of an ad for Speedline. {:-{
I don't think it was supposed to be a balanced review, more a correction of certain erroneous statements that all Speedline kits are only 'part kits', and tbh, I wouldn't expect any different from a manufacturer of one of the models.
A balanced review of the 2 boats asked about can only really be given by someone who has built both of them. As the Model Slipway kits appears to be 'easier' to build, and the Speedline boats are towards the 'more experienced' builder, having two different people give their opinions has to have their experience and abilities taken into account.
Myself, I'm almost certain I'll go for the 1/16th Severn and then maybe a 1/16th Tamar later, (unless the 1/16th Trent is back in production by then, but that's for the future).
Mark
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Thanks for that. It did read much like an add I admit but the intention was to show just how far out some commentators can be.
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Thanks for that. It did read much like an add I admit but the intention was to show just how far out some commentators can be.
Too right, Adrian. I had a customer who rang on Thursday and wanted to know if it was true that our 'Noisy Thing' runs OK on the bench but not when you transfer it to a model................... Apparently someone in his local club had told him this.
One has to allow for what I call 'User/Hardware Interface Conflict'.
Dave M
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Just to put a comment re the Action " P100 Noisy Thing" , I have one installed in my Trent and the sounds are very good and realistic, I have changed some of the secondary sounds with no problem using the Action software , I did have a slight problem with the inital unit but Dave was very helpful in sorting out the problem and iit was replaced by return . The service from Action is excellent pity some other suppliers are not so good , have you tried to contact "Graupner with a problem !!!!
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Yes I have tried to sort a problem out on a Ultra 1300-9m motor with Graupner but obviously they were not at fault so I ended up with a expensive piece of rubbish which I binned. As for Action, the products,advice, help I have received personally from Dave is a credit to
him as a fellow modeler and supplier.
john
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Can't really fault Action stuff, my mates got 'noisy thing' in 2 of his boats and it sounds great, I'll be putting one in my Severn when it's done. Also when sailing on Loch Ness last weekend 'gribeauval's' esc's, motors etc in his Clyde Class Lifeboat were submerged for a while in water and STILL working. Can't really say much more, Dave. :-))
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Must just point out there Dave that the speed controllers werent Action but the 50a waterproof ones... But the other kit was under water for a while....just in case someone buys some and thinks they are waterproof???
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To be fair to Adrian of Speedline, I've seen or rather read some pretty opinionated stuff about his kits so I dont have a problem with him correcting people even if some think it was an advert.
To me we are talking chalk and cheese here. Slipway do excellent kits, I have a Drumbeat of Devon and am putting the finishing touches to an Envoy civvie tug. The instructions for Drumbeat were very good. The instructions for the Envoy less so but, Slipway indicate the Envoy is for more experienced builders. I had a couple of minor issues with the build of both but, I would recommend Slipway to anyone. Just buy the build from their range that's within your competencies.
I've also studied Speedlines site and their lifeboat kits. I think Adrian makes it clear none of these are for a complete novice. But, as with any build, if you are careful and take your time, even a novice can turn out a great build.
As regards price, well some people shop in aldi and some in waitrose. Yer pays yer money and all that. The speedline Tamar is 50% bigger (if my maths is right :}) than the Slipway version. But the Speedline version also comes with actual stanchions and other bits and pieces ready made rather than white metal or pieces you have to make yourself. All these things add up.
I'd love a Speedline Tamar and Im certainmost of its within my build capabilities. Personally I'd pay the premium for the speedline not because the slipway version is in any way a lesser kit, it's not. But the speedline is bigger and I like big scale models!
So, what it comes down to is
Can you justify spending the money on the preferred kit
Are your build skills sufficient to justify a big kit (where mistakes are harder to cover up)
Can you physically handle a bigger kit
Scale boats look better at larger scales so is scale appearance of the boat and on the water important.
IMVHO, only the purchaser or in this case the OP really answer the question of which manufacturer to go with.
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As the Model Slipway kits appears to be 'easier' to build, and the Speedline boats are towards the 'more experienced' builder, having two different people give their opinions has to have their experience and abilities taken into account.
Myself, I'm almost certain I'll go for the 1/16th Severn and then maybe a 1/16th Tamar later, (unless the 1/16th Trent is back in production by then, but that's for the future).
Hmm, a little change of the two highlighted statements I made a while back.
Firstly, (due to financial constraints), I went with a Model Slipway Tamar as my first lifeboat and not the Speedline Severn I'd have preferred, but the £275 difference will cover the additional electrics I'll need .
Secondly, the Tamar is not a beginners kit - far from it, (although to be fair to Model Slipway, Lawrie does mention this in the instructions), so will be a slightly longer build than I was expecting.
Mark
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First of all i`m no experience modeller,but i can read instructions and can read drawings,i like a challenge,and do not care what people think of the outcome of my boats.We all had to start somewhere.I brought a speedline 1/16 severn(cheap)complete but no destructions,but Tubby(barry)kindly sent me a disc with everything you need, inc 1/16 plans. But the cost without the photos (750 of them) was £25.Now all you asked was "speedline or slipway".As stated before it`s up to you and what you can afford,i myself love lifeboats and if i can build them so can you.As long as your happy with your outcome of the finish model then you choose.If you choose the speedline severn post some picture`s on here and see what comment`s arise:baloo
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I've got a load of photos of holyheads Severn if they are of any use to you? Drop me a message if you want any. Dave.
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Neil,
When you say 'semi-kit', what do you mean?? I thought they were complete.
Like returnee, they are the two kits I'm looking at, (I'd prefer the Trent to the Tamar but it's listed as out of production)
Mark
A semi kit is one where many items for the build can be bought as separate items of component bags. They normally consist of hull, plan, running gear and bags of components. You dont normally get plasticard or other material to build decks and superstructure. However, both Fleetscale and Speedline supply decks and superstructure parts for some or all of their kits now.
You either buy the whole lot in one go or buy the relevant components or component bags as and when you want. With a kit you buy the whole lot at once and generally dont have the ability to buy parts in component bags.
The lines between semi kits and kits is therefore getting blurred a little since Fleetscale and Speedline offer some or all of their kits in semi kit form where you can buy all the build items at once. So, the semi kit can be offered as a 'complete kit'!
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I've got a load of photos of holyheads Severn if they are of any use to you? Drop me a message if you want any. Dave.
Yes please! :-))
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Yes please! :-))
What's it worth? Bacon buttie? O0 {-) O0
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Oh go on then...... %%
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Woo Hoo!
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What Russ forgot to mention Dave is that you are buying. {-)
PS I got the Trawler cat from MBD
john
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Look forward to seeing the Trawler cat on the lake, it's a nice piece of kit, had a look at it again yesterday. What you got planned for it, fishing boat? Would make nice dive support boat. See you soon, Dave. :-))
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Thanks to you all for all your valued comments.
I have bitten the bullet and decided that I will be building a 1/16 Severn from Speedline,.
the 1/12 would be too large to get in my shed.
The only problem with that is the cost, so I am going to have to put a bit more aside from my pension each month. Should have enough by Xmas 2012. Jonno had one for sale ,but missed that one, diddnt realize there were (Wants and Sales ) at the end of the site
Once again very grateful for all your comments and advise.
Gerard
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you have made the right choice, i have just picked a 1/12 severn and the quality of the bits is excellent, well worth the money and adrian is a very helpfull man to deal with :-)) i might not be able to do the kit to the very high standards of some on the forum but i will have loads of fun trying ;)
stubbsy :-)
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Thanks to you all for all your valued comments.
I have bitten the bullet and decided that I will be building a 1/16 Severn from Speedline,.
the 1/12 would be too large to get in my shed.
The only problem with that is the cost, so I am going to have to put a bit more aside from my pension each month. Should have enough by Xmas 2012. Jonno had one for sale ,but missed that one, diddnt realize there were (Wants and Sales ) at the end of the site
Once again very grateful for all your comments and advise.
Gerard
I hop to see a build guide!
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Well done on choosing the Speedline kit :-)) I am building the 1/16th Severn and I am around 80% finished and hopefully it will be on Speedlines stand at Warwick in Nov.
I have found it a joy to build, it needs time and patients, but will build into a very nice Model indeed.
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you have made the right choice, i have just picked a 1/12 severn and the quality of the bits is excellent, well worth the money and adrian is a very helpfull man to deal with :-)) i might not be able to do the kit to the very high standards of some on the forum but i will have loads of fun trying ;)
stubbsy :-)
[/If I can help you with your build just let me know, your not that far away from me I am in Chertsey, more than welcome to visit and have a look at mine :-))
Phil.]
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you have made the right choice, i have just picked a 1/12 severn and the quality of the bits is excellent, well worth the money and adrian is a very helpfull man to deal with :-)) i might not be able to do the kit to the very high standards of some on the forum but i will have loads of fun trying ;)
stubbsy :-)
[/If I can help you with your build just let me know, your not that far away from me I am in Chertsey, more than welcome to visit and have a look at mine :-))
Phil.]
cheers Phil you are a star :-))
stubbsy :-)