Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Korky on August 12, 2011, 04:07:33 pm
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After nearly 6 weeks of enforced "stay at home" duty imposed by the Medicos , I have come to the conclusion that...........
1. The present £150.00 TV license fee is nothing less than a fraud being perpetrated upon the British public by what appears to be (to me at least) a government controlled quango, and represents NO value for the fee payable at all !
2. From October 2011, I have decided that should I wish to view programmes made years before, and repeated with monotonous regularity day in day out, week in week out, then the there are many other means available to the viewing public other than the soon to be redundant (hopefully) BBC.
3. No doubt after the above date I shall be treated to various letters from the TV licensing people, making me aware of the "horrendous" penalties awaiting me should I use my non existent TV. I did seek advice on this matter a few weeks ago, and that was to ignore any letters, and in the probable event of an enquiry agent calling, to politely ask him to leave. The letters will continue, I have been reliably informed, but to answer any of them would merely place the householder at greater risk of continued "official harassment", non reply being the order of the day.
4. British television is rapidly emulating the garbage being broadcast by other countries (notably the USA) in that programmes are being endlessly repeated, and it's a bad sign when the cooking shows and DIY progs are aired thrice weekly, and furthermore, I'm NOT interested in how the police dealt with crime several years ago, having witnessed just how it was dealt with in the past week ! I don't seem to recall seeing any Scoobies or EVOs screeching to a halt, their occupants leaping out armed with Tasers and CS spays and arresting the baddies...but then again I might not have been looking closely enough !
Never mind fellas, soon be Christmas again, and time once more for those evergreens faves....White Christmas, Great Escape, Wizard of OZ, and who could forget The Sound of Music ? (I have, in fact NEVER seen it)
In short....The BBC can emulate both a Penguin and a Pelican, in that they too can stick their bill up their ar*e
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Dont go for Sky then or you will have loads more channels of repeats day in day out. >>:-(
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Dont go for Sky then or you will have loads more channels of repeats day in day out. >>:-(
Sky can stick it's bill even further up it's vent... Do I sound like a person who wants to deal with anything remotely connected to the Maf Murdoch "family" ?
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If you have a 'non existent TV ' it must be a bit of a problem watching anything.
Watching I player or likewise 'at the same time as the aired programme' needs
the license anyway >:-o >:-o >:-o
Ned
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If you have a 'non existent TV ' it must be a bit of a problem watching anything.
Watching I player or likewise 'at the same time as the aired programme' needs
the license anyway >:-o >:-o >:-o
Ned
NED...with respect pleas re read my OP and note the following line...
2. From October 2011, I have decided that should I wish to view programmes made years before, and repeated with monotonous regularity day in day out, week in week out, then the there are many other means available to the viewing public other than the soon to be redundant (hopefully) BBC
MY present TV set will be non existent from the date I stated, but will no doubt be real enough to the "snoops" sent around by a Corporation that could well be snapped up by the Murdoch Maf Family given half a chance....watch this space !
As for watching IPlayer repeated programmes, you are TOTALLY wrong as they consist of Streaming Video and require NO license at all !
Only if programmes were viewed at the same time as they are being transmitted would it be necessary to purchase any form of receiving license.
And I DID state that if I wanted to watch repeat after repeat, I could always use various other methods didn't I ????
Methinks the BBC have a large number of the viewing public "bricking it"
Korky ( ex TOBS Technician BBC Television)
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Try reading Korky, you choose whatever you like then.
Colin
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I havent seen a BBC broadcast in over 12 months - in fact I havent seen a UK broadcast in that time.............and I still live in the uk.
We live in our motorhome and have a satellite system that is fixed on a satellite broadcasting French programming (arts, culture, news, local TV in French regions.........).
My wife is French and this is her way of keeping a thin thread with her homeland - and my way of improving my understanding of the language and culture...
.............................no repeats, no mindless drivel..............and NO licence fee to pay!!!!!!!!
Happy? Me? You bet!!!
Carl
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Try reading Korky, you choose whatever you like then.
Colin
Presently watching Red Bull TV ....and shaking in me boots should the knock at the door come soonish ! ( not) Ever heard of Zattoo Colin ? thought not ! have a look some time eh ?
Korks
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I havent seen a BBC broadcast in over 12 months - in fact I havent seen a UK broadcast in that time.............and I still live in the uk.
We live in our motorhome and have a satellite system that is fixed on a satellite broadcasting French programming (arts, culture, news, local TV in French regions.........).
My wife is French and this is her way of keeping a thin thread with her homeland - and my way of improving my understanding of the language and culture...
.............................no repeats, no mindless drivel..............and NO licence fee to pay!!!!!!!!
Happy? Me? You bet!!!
Carl
And I don't blame you in the slightest Carl, I too watch France 24 (available in French AND English) Russia Today (Russian AND English) Al Jazeera (Arabic AND English) and myriad other channels all being broadcast in English, and being foreign satellite broadcasts, require NO licence at all.
And what's more, the news content of these channels is in NO way censored or controlled by HMG as so very much of mainland TV News is nowadays.
What's that I just heard " Next Sunday...another chance to see the best of Songs of Praise from 2008 "
Power to the people Carl
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Korky get a grip
I said that watching I player AT THE SAME TIME AS THE BROADCAST needs a licence
Thats all
Ned
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Korky get a grip
I said that watching I player AT THE SAME TIME AS THE BROADCAST needs a licence
Thats all
Ned
Me get a grip Ned ?
I said that as from October 2011 I would have a non existent TV set....anyone fancy a Sony 28" flat screen c/w stand ?
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Well, I'm always amazed when they say there's nothing on TV, If you have a reasonable range of interests you should fine something to amuse you.
You have to remember that one man's meat is anothers poison.
So what would you want a programme to feature?
I know I don't want to watch French TV 24/7
At least the BBC don't have adverts every ten minutes, although they do repeat trailers far tooooooo often.
£150 a year is about the same as a pint of bitter a week........................
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Well, I'm always amazed when they say there's nothing on TV, If you have a reasonable range of interests you should fine something to amuse you. (time after time after time)
You have to remember that one man's meat is anothers poison. (back to cooking programmes)
So what would you want a programme to feature? (less repeated dumbed down drivel )
I know I don't want to watch French TV 24/7 (Not even when the programme is in English and features far more unbiased coverage of world events?)
At least the BBC don't have adverts every ten minutes, although they do repeat trailers far tooooooo often. (NO they have blatant product placement instead)
£150 a year is about the same as a pint of bitter a week........................(OK if you're a drinker I guess !)
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NED...with respect pleas re read my OP and note the following line...
2. From October 2011, I have decided that should I wish to view programmes made years before, and repeated with monotonous regularity day in day out, week in week out, then the there are many other means available to the viewing public other than the soon to be redundant (hopefully) BBC
MY present TV set will be non existent from the date I stated, but will no doubt be real enough to the "snoops" sent around by a Corporation that could well be snapped up by the Murdoch Maf Family given half a chance....watch this space !
As for watching IPlayer repeated programmes, you are TOTALLY wrong as they consist of Streaming Video and require NO license at all !
Only if programmes were viewed at the same time as they are being transmitted would it be necessary to purchase any form of receiving license.
And I DID state that if I wanted to watch repeat after repeat, I could always use various other methods didn't I ????
Methinks the BBC have a large number of the viewing public "bricking it"
Korky ( ex TOBS Technician BBC Television)
When will you people take notice. US COLOUR BLIND FOLKS CANNOT READ BLACK WRITING ON RED BACKGROUND. >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
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US COLOUR BLIND FOLKS CANNOT READ BLACK WRITING ON RED BACKGROUND
So how do you know what was said Richard? Not that it was really worth reading anyway.
Colin
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When will you people take notice. US COLOUR BLIND FOLKS CANNOT READ BLACK WRITING ON RED BACKGROUND. >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
you've not missed much %)
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So how do you know what was said Richard? Not that it was really worth reading anyway.
Colin
Thank you for those few kind words Colin....always appreciated !
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DITTO !
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No problem Korky but you do come across as being a trifle aggressive. Don't want to watch crap TV, fine, neither do I, but no need to make a song and dance about it. Some people like the repeats, they find it comforting. Takes all sorts. Chill out!
Colin
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No problem Korky but you do come across as being a trifle aggressive. Don't want to watch 'rubbish' TV, fine, neither do I, but no need to make a song and dance about it. Some people like the repeats, they find it comforting. Takes all sorts. Chill out!
Colin
In my honest and very personally informed opinion, the BBC is a bloated unregulated organisation which wastes millions of pounds of public money every day.
It is not unbiased in it's opinions and is therefore not representative of the community it purports to serve.
I honestly think it might be best to scrap the license fee altogether and make the BBC stand on it's own two feet commercially, which it has proved already by accepting commercially "paid for" corporate product placement.
But then again...what would I know about the subject, being a mere ex Corpy employee ?
If watching (and paying for) repeat after repeat makes you and others feel "comfortable" then so be it, but I posted my OWN personal opinion on this topic and was treated to an example of the "git them wagons in a circle and look after them women and young folk" mentality that is so very typical of online forums nowadays, it's true title being MOBBING !
So long and thanks for all the fish....Douglas Adams
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I agree with you Korky,
Load of trash on bbc,watch the cable channels myself,but the question is,
because you have a pc or laptop,you can still recieve bbc signal you still have to pay.
I stand to be corrected
Mark
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If watching (and paying for) repeat after repeat makes you and others feel "comfortable"
I never said it was my opinion. Some of what you say is indubitably correct. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion but don't knock those who think a bit differently.
Your comments do seem to confirm that you have a rather aggrieved attitude and expect others to fall in with your own views. Well, sorry, I prefer to make up my own mind. No doubt the answer is 42.
Colin
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Who is ......Douglas Adams? ....I don't think we get that show or know him in OZ {-) {-) .....Derek
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Well, he's dead now Derek.... Or maybe roaming the Cosmos.
Colin
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I agree with you Korky,
Load of trash on bbc,watch the cable channels myself,but the question is,
because you have a pc or laptop,you can still recieve bbc signal you still have to pay.
I stand to be corrected
Mark
Thanks Mark, but if you're watching a BBC repeat (on I player) or a Satellite Channel (ie Zatto) no license is required !
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Who is ......Douglas Adams? ....I don't think we get that show or know him in OZ {-) {-) .....Derek
He wrote "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Billabong" I believe, but then again I could be wrong ( yet again)
and lay off the red n black please !
Korky (the cat)
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OK you guys,enough is enough,how about using this site for model boating,which I do for fun, not aggression.If people can be so aggressive over a subject like BBC, no wonder this country is getting riots on our streets.and don't forget, there is a switch on the TV that says OFF!
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So how do you know what was said Richard? Not that it was really worth reading anyway.
Colin
I dont Colin >>:-(
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OK you guys,enough is enough,how about using this site for model boating,which I do for fun, not aggression.If people can be so aggressive over a subject like BBC, no wonder this country is getting riots on our streets.and don't forget, there is a switch on the TV that says OFF!
err....As I had to remind a person who prefers to remain nameless, only last week........
Chit-Chat
Almost anything you like in here...
Korky
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I dont Colin >>:-(
Richard.... please remember...other colours ARE available
Korky
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Richard.... please remember...other colours ARE available
Korky
Then why don't you flamin use them. >>:-(
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Korky, I strongly suggest you moderate your aggressive attitude or risk sanctions. Just because someone does not agree with you does not constitute a reason for belligerent remarks. As Colin Bishop said, most of what you said was not worth reading anyway, AND it is only your opinion. You are correct in one thing, and that is Chit Chat is the place for "Almost anything you like", but that does not grant a licence for aggressive posts.
Consider yourself warned.
Peter Fitness,
Moderator.
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Thanks Colin....I truly did not know of Douglas Adams..........it was only when a newer member :P referred to " thanks for all the fish".... >:-o ...I wondered if Douglas was a modern day version of that famous older Biblical fisherman named Peter O0
Please lets not <*< >>:-( bring any disparaging remarks .... if one believes the Scriptures...... :-)) .....Peter was an amazing man to catch so many fish........ ;)
Again an example of personal choice expressed & presented here on Mayhem.......:o %) ....Derek
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Meanwhile, back at the original topic %) Australia has had no TV licence requirement for viewers since 1974, according to Wikipedia.
Peter.
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Good gosh,... first I have ever heard of such a thing... a TV License?
If you watch or record broadcast television you need a license to have the television in your home?
Absolute drivel... >:-o
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Absolute drivel... >:-o
I agree absolutely, Umi. I can remember when inspectors used to drive around looking for TV antennas on houses, then checking if the occupants had a licence :police: Eventually the government saw sense - a very rare occurrence in itself :-)
Peter.
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The TV licences IMO is just another stealth tax.
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The TV licences IMO is just another stealth tax.
Stealth taxes are a relatively recent concept, the TV licence predates them by decades.
Umi, it's a legacy thing. The licence fee goes to fund the BBC (whether they spend it wisely is another matter altogether) but it does have the advantage that on the BBC channels there is no formal commercial advertising so you can actually watch the programmes from start to finish. When I was in the States a few years back half the broadcasting time on TV programmes was taken up with commercial breaks or 'messages from our sponsor' Definitely drivel! As the Springsteen song has it '57 channels and nothin' on'. He was describing American TV and he was dead right!
I suppose it is what you are used to really, most people in the UK think that the US healthcare system is almost medieval!
Colin
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The name "stealth Tax" is an invention of the Tory Party. To make a tax seem unfair.
TV licence pays for all BBC TV and radio programmes, it's up front and visible. If you don't want to pay don't have a TV, you'll get the radio free then :-))
It would be interesting to know how much TV advertising adds to the price of a product, because commercial TV is not free, it has to paid for by some one...and that's you, in the price of goods, now that is a "stealth tax"
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Not only were there TV licences, way back in the dim dark ages but Radio licences as well.
However Uz Ossies saw de light an no more licences.
Korky, Therefore the solution to your dilemma is zimple come to Oz and watch all the repeats you like for Free we also screen some BBC shows on the ABC. O0 O0 O0 {-) {-)
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Not only were there TV licences, way back in the dim dark ages but Radio licences as well.
However Uz Ossies saw de light an no more licences.
Korky, Therefore the solution to your dilemma is zimple come to Oz and watch all the repeats you like for Free we also screen some BBC shows on the ABC. O0 O0 O0 {-) {-)
Indeed, but look at the state of your tele.... adverts interupted by programmes.
LB
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Looks like good ole Auntie Beeb is going into advertising judging by the number of self adverts it shows.
Regards Ian.
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Looks like good ole Auntie Beeb is going into advertising judging by the number of self adverts it shows.
Regards Ian.
But only between programmes, not every ten minutes.
Which is why I never listen to commercial radio
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At 150 pounds that about 3 pound a week, I think about the cost of a cheap dvd or a rental one for a night. for people that watch TV (very little myself) that don't seem too bad to me if you are a soap person that a fairly cheap form of entertainment. But would still like to see it for free.
Regards Tony
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But would still like to see it for free.
Happy to have adverts then? It has to be paid for somehow.
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Stealth taxes are a relatively recent concept, the TV licence predates them by decades.
Umi, it's a legacy thing. The licence fee goes to fund the BBC (whether they spend it wisely is another matter altogether) but it does have the advantage that on the BBC channels there is no formal commercial advertising so you can actually watch the programmes from start to finish. When I was in the States a few years back half the broadcasting time on TV programmes was taken up with commercial breaks or 'messages from our sponsor' Definitely drivel! As the Springsteen song has it '57 channels and nothin' on'. He was describing American TV and he was dead right!
I suppose it is what you are used to really, most people in the UK think that the US healthcare system is almost medieval!
Colin
That might of been the original idea... but now IMO it's just another tax.... just like road tax has become...
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Korky, I strongly suggest you moderate your aggressive attitude or risk sanctions. Just because someone does not agree with you does not constitute a reason for belligerent remarks. As Colin Bishop said, most of what you said was not worth reading anyway, AND it is only your opinion. You are correct in one thing, and that is Chit Chat is the place for "Almost anything you like", but that does not grant a licence for aggressive posts.
Consider yourself warned.
Peter Fitness,
Moderator.
and your comment re "not worth reading" ISN'T a flamer ?
Where the Sun don't shine Peter, where the Sun don't shine ok ?
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Korky has left the forum.
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Happy to have adverts then? It has to be paid for somehow.
Don;t know not gave it too much thought as I don't watch a lot. As i said before does not seem too bad value anyway as entertainmeant goes, some adverts can provide useful toilet breaks or drink making time {-) {-)
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Korky has left the forum.
I wonder if he left the BBC with equal lack of ceremony? A bitter man, by the sound of it.
Dave M
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That might of been the original idea... but now IMO it's just another tax.... just like road tax has become...
Not quite the same as the licence fee does only go to the BBC whereas road tax simply disappears into the Treasury coffers and has no bearing on what is actually spent on the roads. Of course in recent years the BBC has branched out into areas which other organisations have felt to represent unfair competition but they have had to retrench quite considerably on that. With the licence fee you can see (literally!) what you are getting for your money, whether you like it is something else again and down to personal opinion.
Colin
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What a strange fellow Korky was. %)
I left the BBC (in 1992) with glee, and a pot of cash. This was partly because they'd changed my contract from 42-hours a week to 160-hours per month...which meant I could be sent to cover the snooker in Sheffield, for example, and work an eighty-hour week, be given the following week off, and thus not get any overtime. >>:-(
These days, after a toy with Sky for a year or two, Mrs Dreadnought72 and myself decided that there really wasn't anything on any broadcast services that bothered us much: she was watching a few classic films online, while I was watching about 30 minutes a week via the iplayer (I much prefer the radio for news and entertainment), so we cancelled our TV licence.
If you do this, prepare yourself for an assault.
We were bombarded with letters and then, eventually, a fella turned up. "We have a record of this address as being unlicenced," he said, "can I come in and check your TV?"
"Sure." I said.
So I showed him our TV, plugged into naught but an Xbox and the DVD player, and he left, saying "We'll be in touch in a year or so."
"Don't bother!" I happily called after him. {-)
Andy, ex BBC Cameraman, Manchester "North 3"
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Our ABC, equivalent of BBC does not have any adds.
You can watch a show from start to finish uninterrupted, provided you don't need a comfort break, and that's where commercials come in handy :-)) :-))
So take your pick. {-) {-) {-)
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Some of you have already noticed the increase in "self-adverts" from the BBC. This is the reason -
Television programmes are created in "sections". (Films not included as they are variable length).
In the old days when the BBC were making programmes for only themselves, their "sections" were 15 mins (ie 2 "sections" for a half hour programme, etc.).
ITV, on the other hand, created programmes in 13 minute "sections" (to allow for 2 mins advertising every 15 mins).
This was fine until both companies started buying programmes made by "independant" TV companies (of which most programmes are nowadays)
In order for these independants to attract the greatest number of potential buyers, the programme makers make them ALL in 13 minute "sections", which means that the BBC has to fill the 'remaining' time with something - thus, (not being allowed to use humorous Meercat adverts, etc) - we are given 4 minutes of "self-promotion" every 30 mins (they put both 13 minute "sections" together)
There is also moves afoot to reduce the size of the "sections" to 12 minutes with pressure by the USA markets (who need more "sponsor time" as well as the adverts!
So the ratio of programme/advert time will decrease further .... !
Just thought I'd cheer you all up. %) {-) {-)
Danny
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You are perfectly entitled to your opinion but don't knock those who think a bit differently.
Hark who's talking {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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Hark who's talking
Everyone has a right to be wrong. ok2
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i do not care what rubbish is on tv do not have to pay for licence {-) {-)
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fond memory of the inspectors, forgot to renew licience, then we both thought the other had, out at dads one sunday with younguns, im on the front holding the youngest when looking up the road i see some muppit bobbing around the front window obviously upto no good looking in the windows, flys up there, puts baby down and has this guy by the throat and about to punch his lights out, thats when the copper he was with stepped in, seems he was looking in my windows to check if we had a tv, end the day as i told the copper this guy looked shady, should expect to be taken to task as a peeping tom, copper understood were i was coming from but inspector wanted me arresting <*<, so i said to the copper my mrs was walking around poss semi naked and i wanted the guy arrested for that, copper sorted the inspector out on it, so then it was have you a licence, once i asked her it turned out no, so the guy says get one by tomorrow no further action, following morn im first at postie, gets one, two weeks later i get a summons for not having one, pleads guilty but i want my day in court because of what had been said, says my bit, mentions this peeping tom way of the inspector, also mentions the get one and no further action, seems a fair few of us got hit by same guy and magistrates hit the roof with them, he told everyone the same, obviously i was guilty but my fine was £25 , the inspectors boss who was in court got himself a new backside torn by the magistrates