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Mess Deck: General Section => Model Boating => Topic started by: BJ on September 08, 2011, 08:10:22 pm

Title: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: BJ on September 08, 2011, 08:10:22 pm
I heard at lunchtime today was the news that Lesro Models have transferred all of their copyrights  and sole right of manufacture of Aerokits and other kit names which Lesro owned to another company (believed it is to be called Vintage Model Boat Company).

This new company will redraw all kits using TurboCad and a single set of parts for each kit will be laser cut for an experienced “kit basher” to fit together to resolve any errors. The drawings will then be corrected to suit the kit basher's findings before anymore kits are produced.
Some kits have already been passed on for the test build process according my lunchtime source.
I believe that this will be “all done and dusted” in two weeks.
Lesro will continue to supply the new kits alongside the Vintage Model Boat Company,so I am told.


Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: riggers24 on September 08, 2011, 08:28:32 pm
Didn't Jokita/Cauldercraft go down this route buying the rights to the aerokit range only to find they didn't. Caldercraft have the Sea Queen from the aerokit range so we will have to see what range this vintage model boat company actually get.
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: barriew on September 08, 2011, 08:28:58 pm
I wonder where that leaves Jotika who also supposedly own the rights to Aerokits designs and have already released two models. (Sea Queen and Sea Commander)

There is an organisation called Vintage Model Works which makes a Fireboat which I think Lesro sell. There's an ad in the latest Model Boats.

Barrie
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: BJ on September 08, 2011, 08:52:19 pm
I wonder where that leaves Jotika who also supposedly own the rights to Aerokits designs and have already released two models. (Sea Queen and Sea Commander)

There is an organisation called Vintage Model Works which makes a Fireboat which I think Lesro sell. There's an ad in the latest Model Boats.

Barrie

Yes, I wonder where that leaves Jotika................? Allegedly Lesro had the sole rights from Les Rowel
... and No! it is not the Vintage Model Works but the Vintage Model Boat Company
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on September 08, 2011, 08:54:36 pm
 Vintage Model Boat Company already kit the large fire boat , its something like £245, plus £50 for a set of the heaveyest fittings you will ever see.

Peter
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: BJ on September 08, 2011, 09:03:49 pm
Vintage Model Boat Company already kit the large fire boat , its something like £245, plus £50 for a set of the heaveyest fittings you will ever see.

Peter

I understand that the trading name of the Vintage Model Boat Company was registered within the last two weeks
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: nhp651 on September 08, 2011, 09:44:53 pm
all very interesting, but are they going to re release the Atlantic 21 lifeboat kit that Lesro were trying to sell on ebay some months back, lock sock and barrell for £2500.00......that would be very interesting indeed
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: riggers24 on September 08, 2011, 10:40:25 pm
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=25028.0 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=25028.0) See Colin Bishop's response
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: BJ on October 05, 2011, 05:22:46 pm
I understand that the trading name of the Vintage Model Boat Company was registered within the last two weeks


Apparently all details will finally be revealed sometime next week.
Saw a nicely packaged kit today with a good photo assembly instruction booklet. Unfortunately my phone wiped the two pictures of the kit from its memory when my keys got stuck in the case.
Now things will get interesting.....
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: stubbsy on October 05, 2011, 05:36:08 pm
if they do release the atlantic 21 i will buy one ok2 and i am sure many others will as well

stubbsy :-)
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: mog10 on October 05, 2011, 09:35:03 pm
The Atlantic 21 lesro did was a good kit iv built one and still got one unbuilt somewhere in my shed %)
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: BJ on October 06, 2011, 12:58:59 pm
.... my phone wiped the two pictures of the kit from its memory ........


Finally the missing pictures have been found - here is one of them.
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: Artistmike on October 06, 2011, 05:54:49 pm
Finally the missing pictures have been found - here is one of them.

And very nice it looks too... now the interesting bit will be ... price?
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: vintageboats on October 06, 2011, 10:33:46 pm
£59.95
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: Dekan on October 07, 2011, 07:50:22 pm
Interesting, When and where will it be available from....
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: BJ on October 17, 2011, 09:18:59 am
Interesting, When and where will it be available from....
Try Lesro http://www.lesromodels.co.uk/shop/index.php?cPath=85_136&osCsid=7eedb5b16bc2a110e6c9ce2eff72a584 (http://www.lesromodels.co.uk/shop/index.php?cPath=85_136&osCsid=7eedb5b16bc2a110e6c9ce2eff72a584). They seem to have stolen the march on
Vintage Model Boats Company's release date but it is the same kit.
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: Artistmike on October 17, 2011, 12:29:10 pm
I saw that Lesro were advertising it but without plans, fittings, rudder, prop-shaft etc. which will add quite a bit to the £60 they are quoting for the kit without them. The plans alone being £14.50.  I can understand them wanting to keep costs down and allow options but the full works won't be cheap when it's finished and is expensive when compared to the Aeronaut Diva, for example, which comes complete with all fittings etc at £69 approx.

I do hope it does well though for them though as it's one of an iconic series of boats that many of us would like to see back on the water....  :-))
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: BJ on October 17, 2011, 02:54:42 pm
I saw that Lesro were advertising it but without plans, fittings, rudder, prop-shaft etc. which will add quite a bit to the £60 they are quoting for the kit without them. The plans alone being £14.50.  I can understand them wanting to keep costs down and allow options but the full works won't be cheap when it's finished and is expensive when compared to the Aeronaut Diva, for example, which comes complete with all fittings etc at £69 approx.

I do hope it does well though for them though as it's one of an iconic series of boats that many of us would like to see back on the water....  :-))
You will not need the plans - the assembly instruction booklet is a very well illustrated step-by-step photo montage. Take a GOOD look at the photo in one of my posts - the cover page is shown there.
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: Artistmike on October 17, 2011, 03:02:15 pm
You will not need the plans - the assembly instruction booklet is a very well illustrated step-by-step photo montage. Take a GOOD look at the photo in one of my posts - the cover page is shown there.

Ah well, that will save a few bob then...  O0
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: vintageboats on October 17, 2011, 05:32:21 pm
we will have full details on our website later this week at www.vintagemodelboats.com but for now details in brief Sea Scout kit is complete in the wood dept all laser cut and will require a fittings kit at £19.95 ( or you provide prop shaft motor coupling rudder and prop yourself as a lot of modellers allready have these in there workshops ) making a total price of £79.95
next is the new see breeze kit at £59.95 which photo is attached and to follow next two weeks will be the fast patrol boat ill let you know when website will be with an on-line shop
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: vintageboats on October 17, 2011, 05:33:36 pm
whoops here it is
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: vintageboats on October 17, 2011, 07:47:25 pm
Lesro have just put it on eBay on buy it now at http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aerokits-Sea-Scout-wooden-boat-kit-/170713825736?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item27bf5641c8#ht_1400wt_1267
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on October 18, 2011, 05:54:10 am
Pretty useless, no running gear its an "extra".
Also doesn't post oustside UK.

Not reallay a renowned model in that sense.
Plus the boat on fleabay is different to the pix on this forum. <*< <*< <:( <:(
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on October 18, 2011, 09:10:35 am
They where never sold with running gear and I for one wouldn't want it anyway as I build my own plus a lot of people have there own favourite make of  running gear,kit manufactures always seem to put there cheap running gear in and the number of complaints on hear about supplied prop's , they both look like the new sea scout as far as I can see.

Peter
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: Artistmike on October 18, 2011, 10:41:15 am
I have to say I disagree with the "Not really renowned model" bit too.... In my youth, which is admittedly a fair while ago, this range of boats were what every lad with an interest in model boats aspired to. Not everyone could afford the Sea Queen but the smaller models like the Sea Scout and Sea Nymph started many a youngster off in model boating.... Now that I'm back to my modelling I shall be making one of the series for old time's sake, I'm just trying to make up my mind which but it could certainly be this Sea Scout, it would bring a big smile to my face..  O0

Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: BJ on October 18, 2011, 11:04:19 am
whoops here it is
I thought that boat is to be called a SEA BREEZE (may be I am wrong - I cannot make out the name on the stand)
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: Circlip on October 18, 2011, 11:31:49 am
Don't forget that the Aerokits range were the fore-runners of the height of laziness range where ALL the bits didn't come in the box with a tupperware (F/glass or ABS/Styrene) hull. Although there were only two built full size, I wonder how many thousands (?) of the non descript Fire tenders (The propper one, 36") were sold.

  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: The long Build on October 18, 2011, 01:13:24 pm
Pretty useless, no running gear its an "extra".
Also doesn't post oustside UK.

Question is how many people ever use the running gear when supplied, most I know would bin it for there own specification..

Also with the hazards of posting outside of the UK for Ebay Sellers , Nore would I.
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: dbninja on October 18, 2011, 02:11:27 pm
here are two restored  "original" aerokits Sea scouts  from the 60's/70's seen at the fireboat funday at southport....

(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h210/dbninja/DSCF2638.jpg)

i think Popeye's sea scout  in the foreground now runs a brushless set-up

and my blue/white sea scout uses the trusty graupner speed 600 (8.4v) on a 9.6v 8cell nimh   and goes like stink... its faster than a club 500 :}


d
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: Artistmike on October 18, 2011, 03:22:53 pm
my blue/white sea scout uses the trusty graupner speed 600 (8.4v) on a 9.6v 8cell nimh   and goes like stink... its faster than a club 500 :}
d

The extra weight of the deck planking didn't do any harm then... looks really nice too..  :-)) what's the Speed Controller you use with that set-up?

Don't worry, just seen it in your post about the boat  :-))
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on October 19, 2011, 12:53:24 am
Thank you, some very good constructive commentary relative to my post. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on October 19, 2011, 04:51:45 am
Thank you, some very good constructive commentary relative to my post. :-)) :-))

Having visited your fair country 18 months ago WA I can see why you would want all the running gear with a kit as after trolling around all the shops I could find I found very little boat stuff of the kind we like , plenty on Billing  and scale non sailing boats etc,
as  far as the deck is concerned the one on the right may have it done as per the original kit with an Indian ink liner pen for planks.

Peter
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on October 19, 2011, 11:08:02 am
Peter,
Yes you are right we are poorly served for model boat bits, car, planes no problem but boats well you have to be keen to keep at it and we really rely on mail order.
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: vintageboats on October 20, 2011, 12:23:16 pm
Now we have launched our website so all Questions hopfully will be answered please take a look at http://www.vintagemodelboats.com and online shop will be up and running in the next few days
Title: Re: Lesro and AeroKits - the future?
Post by: Artistmike on October 20, 2011, 04:28:42 pm
Now we have launched our website so all Questions hopfully will be answered please take a look at http://www.vintagemodelboats.com and online shop will be up and running in the next few days

Well, I for one wish you all the very best and hope that it works out well for you, which I have no doubt it will.  O0  I've just told my wife what I want as a Christmas present.  :-))