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Technical, Techniques, Hints, and Tips => Radio Equipment => Topic started by: calum_scania on October 12, 2011, 09:47:08 pm

Title: Robbe F14
Post by: calum_scania on October 12, 2011, 09:47:08 pm
Hi guys new to this forum, i have a Robbe F14 and i'm suffering from bad interference around my house. I use the controller for my model truck and need no more than 8 channels to keep me happy

I have done lots off google searches and looked at a few websites but i want to know how to convert it to 2.4

Hobbyking had a few modules on their website but i have no idea what i'm looking for. So can you help?  %)
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: 6705russell on October 13, 2011, 06:27:53 am
Hi

I have used Jeti radio gear for the last five years and found them excellent conversions...

http://www.puffinmodels.com/product.php?prod=1688

Thanks

Russ
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: livesteam on October 13, 2011, 06:38:42 am
Hi!
I use Servonaut zwo4 system with my F-14. It is particularly designed for truck modellers and excellent quality and easy to install: you just stick it into one of the upper option slots and connect it to the leraners-jack on the circuit board.  Might be a bit more than you are looking for though?!
kaspar
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: calum_scania on October 15, 2011, 07:31:20 pm
Hi

I have used Jeti radio gear for the last five years and found them excellent conversions...

http://www.puffinmodels.com/product.php?prod=1688

Thanks

Russ

Okay thanks for the link, is there any other options?
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: calum_scania on October 15, 2011, 07:32:20 pm
Hi!
I use Servonaut zwo4 system with my F-14. It is particularly designed for truck modellers and excellent quality and easy to install: you just stick it into one of the upper option slots and connect it to the leraners-jack on the circuit board.  Might be a bit more than you are looking for though?!
kaspar

I looked at the Servonaut stuff it will be good, but the price puts me off. Is any of the stuff of Hobby King good?
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: sunworksco on October 15, 2011, 10:21:36 pm
Jeti makes a Robbe F-14 2.4GHz transmitter conversion kit that plugs directly into the radio board.
Regards,
Giovanni
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: fatcat123 on October 16, 2011, 10:08:52 am
I have twinstick f14 and it also has a few exta switches etc, will that Jeti module work with it?

Clueless when it comes to conversions and what not.

Dan
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: essex2visuvesi on October 16, 2011, 10:53:11 am
Is any of the stuff of Hobby King good?

Some is some isn't.... take your time to read the customer reviews for each item you are considering
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: barriew on October 16, 2011, 02:08:37 pm
I have twinstick f14 and it also has a few exta switches etc, will that Jeti module work with it?

Dan

Yes - you're only replacing the radio part - not what the radio transmits. Of course you need to be able to find a 2.4Ghz receiver with enough channels.

Barrie
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: fatcat123 on October 16, 2011, 02:10:21 pm
so how many channels is this module?

Dan
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: tony23 on October 16, 2011, 04:57:57 pm
the module has nothing to do with how many channels you need to know how many channels you will be using in your boat then buy a 2.4Ghz receiver that has that amount to plug your servo leads into.
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: fatcat123 on October 16, 2011, 05:30:27 pm
yes but how many possible channels could it be. this would be useful for an upcoming model as i require lots and lots of switches..

Dan
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: Mankster on October 16, 2011, 07:31:33 pm
A F-14 has 8 Channels (the early ones had 7), so you will need an 8 Channel Rx to utilise the F-14 to its fullest.
I modified my Robbe FC-16 to switchable 40mhz, 2.4Ghz for the best of both worlds using a Corona 2.4Ghx hack unit from Giant Cod.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=24085.0
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: fatcat123 on October 16, 2011, 07:35:16 pm
thats true, however how does it then work when the whole console is covered in swtiches? can a decoder thing be used with this 2.4ghz mod
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: Mankster on October 16, 2011, 08:16:17 pm
It works the same way as if you were still using 40Mhz. You need a decoder on the RX end for each switch module you have fitted on the Tx. There was a chap at on of the St Alban Dive Ins I think who had done just this to a F-14 for his surface craft using a 2.4 Ghz hack module.
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: Subculture on October 17, 2011, 11:22:19 am
Do bear in mind that the F14 has a different layout to the FC16, so don't copy the wiring if you decide to go down that route.

Pretty much any radio can be converted to 2.4ghz with these conversion kits, access to a multimeter and an oscilloscope is very useful for figuring out the PPM signal.
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: fatcat123 on October 17, 2011, 11:40:16 am
Is there instructions knocking about showing the conversion of an f14?

Dan
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: Subculture on October 17, 2011, 12:08:10 pm
No 'instructions' as such.

This may help you out- http://www.rcboot.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3211&sid=b3d2dbf3e868e9e43560bf1162459d6a

I would be cautious going the DIY route unless you are fairly comfortable with working your way around a schematic or PCB, and especially so if you're going to be using the radio with large or fast models.

I went down this path because I liked the radio I had, and also required 40mhz dual use. Otherwise I would have just sold my old rig and purchased a new 2.4ghz set.
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: fatcat123 on October 17, 2011, 12:09:57 pm
problem is i like the twinstick feature on the f14.

Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: Subculture on October 17, 2011, 12:14:49 pm
Fair enough. Perhaps you know someone with electronic experience who can give your conversion the once over when done?
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: calum_scania on December 27, 2011, 06:20:05 pm
Hi

I have used Jeti radio gear for the last five years and found them excellent conversions...

http://www.puffinmodels.com/product.php?prod=1688

Thanks

Russ

Is this the exact thing i need then?
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: Subculture on December 27, 2011, 06:50:28 pm
That's one option. Jeti is good quality kit (I use some of their 40mhz receivers), but the price of their conversions is a lot higher than the Chinese offerings. You pays your money.....
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: calum_scania on December 27, 2011, 08:04:05 pm
That's one option. Jeti is good quality kit (I use some of their 40mhz receivers), but the price of their conversions is a lot higher than the Chinese offerings. You pays your money.....

Would that kit be good then? What's the other options i'm fairly new to all this so simpler the better  ok2
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: Subculture on December 27, 2011, 08:28:46 pm
The simplest option is to purchase a new or secondhand 2.4ghz transmitter. I went for the conversion because I like my radio, I still required 40mhz for submarines and I had the tools and ability to do the conversion.

I can't give a specific recommendation for the Jeti conversion, becuase I haven't got one. I have used other Jeti kit, and found it works very well. AFAIK, there is no soldering with these kits, which does simplify things.

The Jeti modules do appear to come with better guides for converting transmitters than sets like the Corona, where you are left to find out for yourself where to tap off for power, ppm signal and ground.

I used a Corona DIY conversion set to convert my FC16. I found the conversion straightforward, the hardest part was deciding where to locate the bits and bobs. I do advise caution if you lack good soldering skills and the ability to test with a multimeter.

The F14 has a different board to the FC16, so I can't give specifics on where the connections should be made.
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: calum_scania on December 27, 2011, 09:02:25 pm
The simplest option is to purchase a new or secondhand 2.4ghz transmitter. I went for the conversion because I like my radio, I still required 40mhz for submarines and I had the tools and ability to do the conversion.

I can't give a specific recommendation for the Jeti conversion, becuase I haven't got one. I have used other Jeti kit, and found it works very well. AFAIK, there is no soldering with these kits, which does simplify things.

The Jeti modules do appear to come with better guides for converting transmitters than sets like the Corona, where you are left to find out for yourself where to tap off for power, ppm signal and ground.

I used a Corona DIY conversion set to convert my FC16. I found the conversion straightforward, the hardest part was deciding where to locate the bits and bobs. I do advise caution if you lack good soldering skills and the ability to test with a multimeter.

The F14 has a different board to the FC16, so I can't give specifics on where the connections should be made.

I don't want to buy another transmitter i need this for all the options it has, but the interference is annoying me. Jeti sounds the best for my, i can solder and use a multimeter but i'd prefer if i could use a kit where i could be 100% sure its going to work and there's no chance of me wrecking something
Title: Re: Robbe F14
Post by: Subculture on December 27, 2011, 09:39:07 pm
The Jeti looks like a good option then.