Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: John Mk2 on October 20, 2011, 11:26:47 am
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Has anyone used one or using one ? Thinking of trying one instead of more pill's :((
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tried one, trouble was i found you need to increase the power every so often, eventually you are using serious power from one and cant go higher, couple of people i know found the same, im not talking a few months here its over a few years - does get you off the zombie tabs though :-))
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Hi,
I have used a Tens machine for severe arthritis for over ten years with a lot of success although you may need to renew the pads and batteries every so often. When the pads go week you will find that you need to turn up the power to them. Change them for new ones and you will need to turn the power down.
I have had NHS acupuncture, hydrotherapy and have swallowed enough pain killers to keep boots going for years. The winner - is the Tens machine, everytime.
They are not expensive at around £20 and the relieve is wonderful. The NHS approve and recommend them.
Regards
Graham
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For details please visit Wickapwdia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcutaneous_electrical_nerve_stimulation
Hope this helps
ken
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another one here I have a TENS for problems I have with my back and shoulder
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I have used one in the past but not now, yes they block the pain, I found after using the same pads for a few days they come unstuck and give you a nice jolt if its turned up a fair bit %%
that's the time to change for new one's !
I think a lot depends why you have the pain in the first place, if its for something which needs further treatment like an operation then be careful as by not feeling the pain you can make a problem worse and then the Tens can hide any more trouble !
My experience anyway.
JB.
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I tried one for my spondilosis some time ago, and the leads kept coming out and giving me shocks on other places.........thank goodness it was on the NHS and not bought.....took it back after a few months, did nothing at all, sorry to say
but being a big fat sod, it might have been me and not the machine.............if you can get one on the health service to try, all the better.
neil.
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I Had one around 30 years ago for My A/S , it worked well it was a four lead , they where very expensive then and where only loaned for a period of time I bought one they where the equivalent of about £500 in todays money, they have improved mine came with a big leather belt and was built in what looked like a maplins box, with big knobs that could be very easily knocked they where also very powerfull to the point if you knocked the controls on full you Had great difficulty trying to turn it down, unfortunately I had to stop using it when I Had a pacemaker fitted at the time it was working well and was reducing the need for pain killers.
so if you have any heart problems ask your doctor first.
Peter
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Just a thought, I'm bad at the moment with a disc injury, had it a long time, if I'm at home sat looking at this PC screen at lot, a hot water bottle in just the right place is very soothing... O0 rechargeable too!
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Peter, I can sympathise with you I was diagnosed with A/S in 76. Biggest problem is my neck only has about 10% movement
making it a bit awkward driving, especially at junctions - got more mirrors on the car than you can count.
Borrowed a Tens machine from a friend for a trial but got no appreciable relief from it.
Geoff
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Peter, I can sympathise with you I was diagnosed with A/S in 76. Biggest problem is my neck only has about 10% movement
making it a bit awkward driving, especially at junctions - got more mirrors on the car than you can count.
Borrowed a Tens machine from a friend for a trial but got no appreciable relief from it.
Geoff
I have had it since I was 15 now 44 years later er still have it, my neck and spine froze early less than 1% depending on who measures and moves my shoulders, I drove up to my last hip repair then could not get the little bit of twist in my body because of my hip used hand mirrors for probably 35 years no problem much better when power steering became standard, it got expensive fitting it to none power steering cars.
I decided I was not as fast as I needed to be to happily drive so I gave up, now have to use a chair so stiffend up a lot more. I was diagnosed with WPW which along with Chrones is related to A/S hence no tense
peter
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Not being rude or insensitive or anything, but are there any Mayhemmers "of an age" NOT suffering from somethin that has only a Latin name? But thank goodness we seem to be beyond the age when catching something "naughty" is a possibility. BY.
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gets a tens machine! hours of entertainment, here my mate using his... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2O3tgWdKo&feature=feedrec_grec_index
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Not being rude or insensitive or anything, but are there any Mayhemmers "of an age" NOT suffering from somethin that has only a Latin name? But thank goodness we seem to be beyond the age when catching something "naughty" is a possibility. BY.
the only thing I catch these days and regularly too is a cold, lol
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you can get a jab to sort it theses days
flu jab that is ;D
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Hi all, reading these posts is like being in hospital listening to your room mates complaints, the only reason we hurt so much is that we have lived long enough to feel the pain of old age. If I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself. LOL. Mick B.
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Hi all, reading these posts is like being in hospital listening to your room mates complaints, the only reason we hurt so much is that we have lived long enough to feel the pain of old age. If I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself. LOL. Mick B.
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Yes but think of all the fun you wouldn't have had...!
I spent many a happy hour under a car...
Cost me a fortune and I finished up a physical wreck...nurse..where's me hot water bottle :D
JB.
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Hi all, reading these posts is like being in hospital listening to your room mates complaints, the only reason we hurt so much is that we have lived long enough to feel the pain of old age. If I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself. LOL. Mick B.
so where ill because we don't look after our selves, what a load of CR** , it is so insulting to people who are ill .so at 17 I got A/S because I did not look after my self
Peter
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so where ill because we don't look after our selves, what a load of CR** , it is so insulting to people who are ill .so at 17 I got A/S because I did not look after my self
Peter
i dont think he means you mate, more the likes of me, by 12 i had fell out of a tree impaling me in the knee and under the kneecap on a branch, by 21 i had fell off a cliff falling 45 foot before landing on my back, by 31 i had added jaw broken, nose broken, leg broken, both wrists and knuckles, i had also drowned in a scuba accident, by 40 i again had smashed my nose, couple fingers,a couple of ribs and compounded a toe, engineering background has left deafness and also welding damaged my lungs, add in i have four cervical ribs that were discovered when i went the docs complaining i was dropping things, thats four more than most that affect my neck and also in later years the feeling in my hands, the hands and fingers tingle all the time, hearts enlarged on the right side, thats not counting the scars i have, so now AT 56 i feel rain and winter coming, i need a couple of new hips but im too young :o, i have a drawer full of tabs and inhalers, i was warned by a consultant i could be in a wheelchair by 50, im six years past that n still not in one though sometimes i need a stick, my love of fishing has gone less as following a days relaxation i pay for it, even a relaxing sailing a boat can be painfull from bending and even extended time holding/operating a radio
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What have I started :embarrassed:
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What have I started :embarrassed:
well I'm not sure but we still don't know why you asked about the TENS...come on what's the problem? ..you can talk to us...!
I'm off to boil the kettle and refill the hot water bottle.. the damp weather is killin my back hips legs {:-{
:D
JB.
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Spinal stenosis (trapped nerves ) In hip's & leg's ! Like permanent sciatica. Sting's a bit :((
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Spinal stenosis (trapped nerves ) In hip's & leg's ! Like permanent sciatica. Sting's a bit :((
Pretty much the same as me then, I had a discectomy on L4-5, worse now a bad idea i reckon, osteo arthritis too which is playing up now the cold damp weather is here
Heat is a good way of easing the pain I find, not much else I can say really except you have my sympathy, I know all about it
I try to keep my mind occupied with modelling as much as I can, helps a bit.
JB.
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i have this seat cover that you can program to vibrate, massage and also heat up, for me it works wonders on my lower back and hips, i also have a version that fits the car seats and is powered via the fag lighter socket, works for me most of the time
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Treeboa
Yes, I have been thinking about a powered heat device I can use on my PC desk (mastermind) chair :D
I'll be sat here more now the winter is coming as I use the desk for small scale modelling too, the hot water bottle is good but having to refill so often and the problems are not getting any better its a good idea.
I know we need to adapt to our situation and make life that bit easier and convenient...never mind eh...! I've got plenty of kit's etc for the next few months, keep busy and spring will be here soon...I hope!
JB.
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Hi HS93, I was not been sarcastic, more like trying to make light of our ills. I suffer from a bad heart, gout, high blood pressure,weak kidneys, & I also have sleep apnea. I have had a stroke which has affected my short term memory. I have injured discs in my back( accident ) I will not allow the doctor to operate. I walk on a leg that the doctors wanted to amputate & it is now 1//2 inch shorter than the other.( accident ) I fell off a ladder 3 years ago & tore 4 tendons in my left shoulder, they refused to operate because of my age. I take Codeine 4 to control the pain in my shoulder. I am left handed so now it is hard to do a lot of things I used to take for granted before.The codeine causes skin rash, sometimes quite bad. I have lost 2 brothers & my father to heart attacks. But I get up in the morning on the right side of the grass & my glass is always half full. We only have today & last but not the least, say something nice or do good deed for someone today because today is all we have( in case you think I am religious, I am NOT, just trying to stay positive,) Mick B.
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Peter (HS93) I missed that I carry nitro everywhere in my pocket( for my heart ), broken ribs twice, broken wrist, broken thumb, two broken toes, & of course the broken leg, & last cartledge removal from my left knee. Thats all I can remember now. Mick B. PS- All this does not make me less sympathetic to your condition.
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Peter (HS93) I missed that I carry nitro everywhere in my pocket( for my heart ), broken ribs twice, broken wrist, broken thumb, two broken toes, & of course the broken leg, & last cartledge removal from my left knee. Thats all I can remember now. Mick B. PS- All this does not make me less sympathetic to your condition.
if you want to play top trumps (health version) unfortunatley I have you beat, {-) and funny enough none of it was my fault, I just wish I could get my wheel chair up a ladder :} %% {-) {-)
anyway can we get back to the serious topic of tens and if it may help John Mk2
Peter
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I have a doctors appt on Monday, I'll be making my problems clear to the doc who I suspect doesn't know my previous history, any mention of TENS will be rejected outright, my feelings are 'self pain management' now, (OK its not working too well at the moment) its very difficult to try to advise someone else how to relieve chronic pain...I think its down to the individual.
In my case the only light at the end of the tunnel is stem cell treatment which is experimental at the moment.
JB.
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lilyanns told me she has a way to sort the pain in her life - she threatens to take me the vets for the BIG needle {-) {-) {-)
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Peter I was not playing trumps, I actually missed two, prostate problems ( unknown as yet but scary, will know on the 28th) & I have had no thyroid gland for twenty years, I live because of centroid. Anybody in a wheelchair has my sympathy. I think you have taken what I said totally the wrong way. I was trying to lighten things up, after all none of us are leaving this planet alive. Getting back to tens, my better half is a qualified massage therapist & tells me the results with tens is a mixed bag, it works well for some people, her advice is to try it, you never know it may help you. Mick B.
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JB, just a thought but if a hot water bottle is inconvenient why dont you try a heat pad - they don't use too much electricity
and are like mini electric blankets about 16" square. and quite cheap to buy - and like the blanket they have 3 or 4 heat settings.
Geoff
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JB, just a thought but if a hot water bottle is inconvenient why dont you try a heat pad - they don't use too much electricity
and are like mini electric blankets about 16" square. and quite cheap to buy - and like the blanket they have 3 or 4 heat settings.
Geoff
have you got a link to them anywhere, I use gel bags you microwave and have a stock of one off use ones for when I am out but the small blanket seems like a great idea
Peter
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just done a quick google - here is one example but there are several on the market but would suggest buying a reputable brand
to make sure the insulation is at least CE approved.
Geoff
http://www.hygienesuppliesdirect.com/products/prod164068
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just done a quick google - here is one example but there are several on the market but would suggest buying a reputable brand
to make sure the insulation is at least CE approved.
Geoff
http://www.hygienesuppliesdirect.com/products/prod164068
thank you for that
sorry John Mk2 for taking it off your topic but it may interst you as well
peter
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JB, just a thought but if a hot water bottle is inconvenient why dont you try a heat pad - they don't use too much electricity
and are like mini electric blankets about 16" square. and quite cheap to buy - and like the blanket they have 3 or 4 heat settings.
Geoff
Geoff thanks I think you are right, I need something more convenient now, I can plug it in under my desk...spaghetti junction under there...its a good job I don't have everything switched on at once!
I've done as search too, Amazon was at the top...hot water bottles and heat pads for back pain..ha ha...my new bottle is there with some customer reviews, had to laugh at this one...
This review is from: Cassandra Hot Water Bottle Double Ribbed (2 Side) - Colours May Vary (Personal Care)
I was disappointed when I received this hot water bottle to discover how small it is. My old hot water bottle, purchased in Boots in 2004 measured 9" (inches) by 12" (14.5" including the neck). This Cassandra bottle measures only 8" by 10.5" (13" including the neck), and thus holds proportionately less water, about 70% of the volume of my old bottle. With this reduced thermal capacity, the Cassandra bottle does not retain a sufficiently high temperature throughout the night to meet its purpose. I cannot decide whether it is the global warming faction or the health and safety brigade who have put pressure on the water bottle manufacturers, but it has deprived us of much needed warm comfort during long cold nights.
Made me smile anyway {-)
I think I'll pay a visit to the local chemist where my son found the 'Cassandra'...mine is pink too! a fiver it cost, I'll bet they have heat pads and for less than Amazon and the like, any problems and it can go back...
Just need to get myself in the car! ...getting out is even harder but the thought of bringing home a heat pad this morning will help
I think all this is relevent to john mk2's question...heat pad or as a stopgap a hot water bottle for the LSS O0
JB.
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HI JB, I used the small blanket when I hurt my back & also my ribs, it worked well & gave me a lot of relief. Mick B.
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HI JB, I used the small blanket when I hurt my back & also my ribs, it worked well & gave me a lot of relief. Mick B.
Thanks for the info Mick, I have tried to buy one at the weekend but none in the local chemist's, I have an appointment with my GP at 9am today... less than an hour to go, I'm still in lots of pain from last week, if the doc can't help with something like the electic pad I'll try at a larger store, I know I could order online but I prefer to see first and then decide.
Have to go now...I need to park easy outside the surgury!
Cheers for now :-))
JB.
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Hi Lads
I have my fair share off ills and pains but my interest in tens is for my kids (18 and 25) <:( Any chance a tens machine with a timer could be over amped and connected to a couple of beds? I'm desperate to get the little darlings off their backs during daylight hours >>:-( Unfortunately their mum still loves them.
Regards Norseman
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Hi Lads
I have my fair share off ills and pains but my interest in tens is for my kids (18 and 25) <:( Any chance a tens machine with a timer could be over amped and connected to a couple of beds? I'm desperate to get the little darlings off their backs during daylight hours >>:-( Unfortunately their mum still loves them.
Regards Norseman
1 pad on either cheek, on a medium power setting, apparently it feels like your teeth are gonna fall out! or 1 pad on each palm and a high power setting makes you lose control of your arms, your arms bend up so your hands are up under your chin and elbows in your stomach, with your finger tips bending down trying to touch your wrists!
go on someone give it a go, its quite funny!
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:-)) Bikerdude - Oh the temptation is too much ................ but SWMBO would kill me. Apparently our children are a protected species but I'm on the pest list and can be legaly shot.
Norseman
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Found an electric heat pad ... :-))
last one in the shop! its good and the constant heat is much better than the hot water bottle for longer sessions at the desk so I can also recommend trying one for back pain etc..
I paid £20 in a local electrical shop.
Oh.. the doc has referred me to the hospital vascular department...pulse in my feet is weak, circulation trouble {:-{
Cheers
JB.
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:-)) Bikerdude - Oh the temptation is too much ................ but SWMBO would kill me. Apparently our children are a protected species but I'm on the pest list and can be legaly shot.
Norseman
lol women are funny about kids, I've now got a son, he's 5 days old, but any attempt at a joke about him is met with a sharp slap!
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Well bikerdude666 ...things will get better O0 ....or things will get worse :o...but in the end it will all be :-))
Congratulations on the new family addition ...grow him up to be a model boat builder :-) [be him be a brain surgeon or a pastery cook] {-) Derek
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lilyanns told me she has a way to sort the pain in her life - she threatens to take me the vets for the BIG needle {-) {-) {-)
treeboa never mind a tens machine mate I dont think the volts/ampage woyld be enough just plug yersen into the mains :} :} :} :}
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treeboa never mind a tens machine mate I dont think the volts/ampage woyld be enough just plug yersen into the mains :} :} :} :}
she says with the price of elecy it would be cheaper to go the vets {-) {-)