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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Lifeboats => Topic started by: nhp651 on October 23, 2011, 11:09:27 pm

Title: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: nhp651 on October 23, 2011, 11:09:27 pm: Just come across these videos of our French Counterparts to the lads from the RNLI..............and what a nice looking boat too......are any of our french model builders doing anything on thesae lines.....I for one would love to see one.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkv8c3_snsm-ploumanac-h-depart-samedi-3-septembre-matin-du-bateau-president-toutain_lifestyle

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkv0pu_snsm-ploumanac-h-retour-le-soir-samedi-3-septembre-du-bateau-president-toutain_lifestyle

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkvd3q_snsm-ploumanac-h-sortie-le-soir-du-bateau-president-toutain-samedi-3-septembre_lifestyle#rel-page-under-5

I'd be very interested to know what she has behind those transome doors as well..........would make a great and different project.
neil.
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: john s 2 on October 24, 2011, 01:13:42 pm: I assume that the first launch was a slow practise one.At over four minutes when time is vital one wonders.It is also interesting to notice the variations in diffrent countrys vessals.The French boat does not have a stepped side to aid pulling swimmers aboard.Whilst German boats always seem to have a rounded structure. John.
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: Number 6 on October 24, 2011, 01:23:44 pm: Hi Neil, yes it would make a nice model, something different. I can't say I've ever seen one anywhere. I would imagine there's a rib behind the transom door, or maybe it just folds down to make rescues from water level easier? I'm sure someone will know. The one below would make a very nice model too! Dave. :-))
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: nhp651 on October 24, 2011, 07:39:12 pm: that's a handsome looking boat too.......the hull would be a sod to make though...........???
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: Charlie on October 24, 2011, 09:53:40 pm: There is a small RIB just behind the transom. Looks a bit dodgy returning to the big boat, especially if you forget to duck! See this vid here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdqtol_snsm-ploumanach_news

There is a great build blog for one of these French Lifeboats here:

http://modelismenavalradioc.nouvellestar6.com/t2989-bcanot-tout-temps-b

I have long wanted to build one of these, but have never been able to get hold of any plans :((
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: nhp651 on October 24, 2011, 09:59:48 pm: superb, charlie.thanks for that, and what a cracking model.
neil.
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: Charlie on October 24, 2011, 11:01:11 pm: Quote from: Number 6 on October 24, 2011, 01:23:44 pm
Hi Neil, yes it would make a nice model, something different. I can't say I've ever seen one anywhere. I would imagine there's a rib behind the transom door, or maybe it just folds down to make rescues from water level easier? I'm sure someone will know. The one below would make a very nice model too! Dave. :-))

Hi Dave - This boat was subject to a Plan Feature in a French Mag, but getting a copy online is proving tricky...

(http://s3.postimage.org/xzhf8xw5n/MRB_Cover.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xzhf8xw5n/)
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: brianB6 on October 24, 2011, 11:13:54 pm: Similar hull to the Port Phillip pilot boat 'Akuna 4'
She was made in Mornington, not far from me so i might be able to visit the factory and ask for plans.
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: Norseman on October 24, 2011, 11:40:42 pm: Hi Brian

I'd love to know more about the hull (please pm me if you post anything on it :D). Does the hull type have a name?

Regards Norseman
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: brianB6 on October 25, 2011, 03:14:48 am: Hi Norseman
Some of the blurb when she was launched:-
"Built by Victoria's Hart Marine for Port Phillip Sea Pilots, 'Akuna IV' was delivered on June 30. The composite-hulled vessel, designed by Pantocarene Naval Architects, France, has an overall length of 18.55 metres with a length at waterline of 17.4 metres, a beam of 6.14 metres, a draught of 1.55 metres and a depth of 2.3 metres.

Displacing 30 tonnes, the vessel is powered by twin Cummins QSK19-M engines, each rated at 597kW at 2,100rpm, with power transferred via twin ZF 2050A, remote mounted, 2.029:1 reduction gears driving twin Teignbridge propellers. The pilot boat has a maximum speed of 30 knots and a cruising speed of 26 knots. Some of the significant elements of this design include its self-righting ability, the NIBS fender system, a "Beak Bow" to reduce pitching, a suspended wheelhouse with consequent reductions in noise and vibration resulting in reduced fatigue on pilots and crew, greater efficiency and less emissions, a composite construction which in turn brings both thermal and acoustic efficiency and lower maintenance costs over the lifecycle of the vessel when compared with other materials and a high standard of finish for pilot and crew comfort.

Hart Marine was able to enhance this design with additional engineering features such as five-bladed propellers, which reduce both underwater noise and cavitation, remote mounted gearboxes which enhance performance without more power while reducing noise and vibration and high strength castings for underwater appendages to reduce drag and cavitation, thus reducing the required power output."
Quite a few photos of her on google under 'Akuna 4 Pilot boat'
Builders:- http://www.hartmarine.com.au/index.php/commercial
Designers:- http://b-m-e.pagesperso-orange.fr/cariboost2/crbst_4.html
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: brianB6 on October 25, 2011, 03:41:37 am: There is also another Pilot boat by the same firm. I do not know the name but she has a slightly different superstructure ( better looking? )
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: Norseman on October 25, 2011, 04:45:15 am: Nice. Here's another to look at :-)

Norseman
(http://s3.postimage.org/j2rid1qfz/Frya_Pilot.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j2rid1qfz/)
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: Number 6 on October 25, 2011, 08:00:54 am: Some infor on builders Hart Marine website with youtube video of testing and construction, Dave. :-))

http://www.hartmarine.com.au/index.php/commercial (http://www.hartmarine.com.au/index.php/commercial)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZcsZu4qHA4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZcsZu4qHA4)
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: brianB6 on October 25, 2011, 10:21:50 am: The second boat is "Ranger 3" based at Hastings.
Slightly smaller, only 14.3 metre hull length.
At least Hastings is just down the road, rather than having to go right around Port Phillip Bay. O0
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: nhp651 on October 26, 2011, 09:47:24 am: Quote from: brianB6 on October 25, 2011, 03:41:37 am
There is also another Pilot boat by the same firm. I do not know the name but she has a slightly different superstructure ( better looking? )

I like the looks of that one very much Brian......would plans be available from the builders do you know, and would you have a link to them by any chance.

thanks
neil.
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: Norseman on October 26, 2011, 01:33:38 pm: Hi

I've emailed Hart Marine - if anything comes of it I'd be happy to share.

Norseman
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: nhp651 on October 26, 2011, 01:54:37 pm: thanks for that, norseman.

cheers.neil.
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: brianB6 on October 26, 2011, 10:30:38 pm: Let me know how you get on.
A personal call might be possible and I will try and get to Hastings soon.
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: nhp651 on October 26, 2011, 10:57:07 pm: cheers Brian.

neil.
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: Norseman on November 14, 2011, 04:51:57 pm: Hi Lads

Hart Marine replied but could only provide mailto:[email protected] (I have just emailed them) and a pdf showing who has been ordering boats. Any info coming back from Pantocarene I will post up here.

Looks like Brian might have to goto Hastings O0

Dave

2009 - 2010
January 2009: order of a series of five ORC 190 Pilot Boats by German Government
May 2009: order of ORC 181 Pilot Boats by Melbourne-Australia Pilots
June 2009: order of a pre series of four ORC 120 Patrol Boats by French Customs
June 2009: order of ORC 156 Pilot Boat by Saint Nazaire-France Pilots
June 2009: delivery of ORC 143 Pilot Boat by Rouen-France Pilots
July 2009: order of ORC 143 Pilot Boat by Melbourne-Australia Pilots
July 2009 – June 2010: delivery of four of a series of six KRAKEN 82 Pilot Tender to German Government
September 2009: order of a series of nine ROSTAR 115 Patrol Boats for the French Navy
September 2009: delivery of ORC 136 Pilot Boat to Sete-France Pilots
November 2009: delivery of RORCAL 120 Fishing Boat to French fisherman
December 2009 – June 2006: delivery of two ORC 140 Rescue Boats to SNSM (France)
December 2009: delivery of RORCAL 90 Patrol Boat to Moroccan Navy
January 2010: order of two ORC 171 Pilot Boats by ESL (London Port Authority)
January 2010: delivery of ORC 181 Pilot Boat to Belgian Government
January 2010: delivery of two RORCAL 90 Fishing Boats to French fishermen
May 2010: order of ORC 143 Pilot Boat by Rouen-France Pilots - 2nd boat
May 2010: order of ORC 143 Pilot Boat by Dunkerque-France Pilots - 2nd boat
June 2010: order of ORC 155 Pilot Boat by Le Havre-France Pilots - 4th boat
June 2010: order of ORC 183 Rescue Boat by Belgian Government
July 2010: delivery of ORC 181 Pilot Boat to Melbourne Pilots
July 2010: delivery of ORC 143 Pilot Boat to Melbourne Pilots
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: john s 2 on November 14, 2011, 07:29:52 pm: Looks like there getting the orders in.Are the hulls moulded here? As down my way most smaller hulls are made in Poland and fitted out overhere.John.
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: Norseman on November 14, 2011, 08:21:49 pm: Hart Marine told me they purchased the boat design - so they will be producing the Pantocarene Beak hulls in Oz under a licence.
They look great on the water don't they.

Dave
Title: Re: Lifeboats with a difference
Post by: brianB6 on November 14, 2011, 10:02:53 pm: Quote from: Norseman on November 14, 2011, 04:51:57 pm
Hi Lads

Hart Marine replied but could only provide mailto:[email protected] (I have just emailed them) and a pdf showing who has been ordering boats. Any info coming back from Pantocarene I will post up here.

Looks like Brian might have to go to Hastings O0

Dave

Looks as if a trip to Hart factory in Mornington and one to Hastings to see the Ranger 3 have to be included in the diary. :-))
It's a pity that Wyuna 4 is on the other side of Port Phillip Bay but maybe I can persuade SWMBO that we can take the ferry sometime in the summer.
P.S. Martin we need an emoticon for being sea sick.