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Title: Round Table-class minesweeper (HMS Sir Kay) deck planking question
Post by: Edward Pinniger on November 14, 2011, 06:48:53 pm
I'm currently building Caldercraft's HMS Sir Kay kit (hope to post a build log once I've got the basics done) and am planning to replace the printed ply deck with individual planks (I have a large bundle of thin ply strips, bought at a show years ago, which will be ideal for the job). Caldercraft's kit has most of the main deck (weather deck) planked, with only a couple of small patches fore and aft (along with the margins and waterways) left as bare metal. Mountfleet Models' HMS Sir Lancelot, however, only has planking on the forward deck (between the main deckhouse and the foc'sle bulkhead) and a small portion of the aft deck .
Is this due to differences between the individual ships in the class, or is one of the kits incorrect? http://www.aberdeenships.com/ has a plan of Round Table-class ships with the LL sweep and generator house (http://www.aberdeenships.com/image.asp?Id=47475&Size=Giant) which appears to show that only the fore and aft areas of the main deck are planked, as on the Mountfleet Models kit.
Title: Re: Round Table-class minesweeper (HMS Sir Kay) deck planking question
Post by: nhp651 on November 14, 2011, 08:59:46 pm
Although these vessels were built as  Minesweepers  they were built with the intention of becoming fishing trawlers after the war and as such would have had further decking placed over the steel underdeck once sold out of service.
All deck patterns on different trawlers were different as per class and builder.some had planked fo'csle's, some steel plated.
|The model is actually very accurate as per John Lambert's plans of the Round Table class vessels and to be honest, it is the Mountfleet model that is more a "stand off Scale" ship, being based on the hull of the Boston Typhoon, which was as far removed from a Round table class ship as can be.
neil.
Title: Re: Round Table-class minesweeper (HMS Sir Kay) deck planking question
Post by: mikearace on November 14, 2011, 11:09:55 pm
If I remember rightly when the Sir Lancelot first came out the advertising was such that it was marketed as being representative of a Round Table Class.  I could be wrong but thats what my memory says.
Title: Re: Round Table-class minesweeper (HMS Sir Kay) deck planking question
Post by: Edward Pinniger on November 16, 2011, 11:36:21 am
Thanks for the help! As both the plans on the Aberdeen Ships website (including the one of Sir Kay) show a partially planked main deck, I think that's what I'm going to go for. There's still plenty of time to change my mind, as I need to complete and paint the bulwarks before making a start on the deck planks.

|The model is actually very accurate as per John Lambert's plans of the Round Table class vessels and to be honest, it is the Mountfleet model that is more a "stand off Scale" ship, being based on the hull of the Boston Typhoon, which was as far removed from a Round table class ship as can be.

Interesting, I didn't realise the hulls were so different, though I guessed the Mountfleet kit used the Boston Typhoon hull from their own description of it as "near scale". I can see from the photos that some of the strakes and mooring pipes are in different locations, and I would guess the hull lines are noticeably different if measured, though they look acceptably similar to my eye.
Title: Re: Round Table-class minesweeper (HMS Sir Kay) deck planking question
Post by: sir kay on January 23, 2012, 08:19:21 pm
Just finishing my Calder Craft Sir Kay ( after 21 years).  I di not use the printed ply deck, but drew my own on ply sheeting.  This got the nibbing rather better, and a better fit around the superstructure and fittings too.  I went with the partial planking, as on the Aberdenships plans too - just looks better, I think.
I much prefer the Calder Craft hull - it is much more like the real thing.  The Mountfleet hull has a very flared bow, not a rather more sheer prow like the photos of the originals.  It looks much too modern.  Caldercraft hull is too wide though, by about 1/2 inch, if I remember from many years ago.
My model is in the warships forum with a cople of photos, if you are interested.  The deck is not well shown though, I'm zfraid.
Good luck