Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Tugs and Towing => Topic started by: Dreadstar on November 23, 2011, 06:02:00 pm
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I got the vac formed kit through the post today,along with the fittings kit,and have started to cut out the parts. Rather than using a scalpel to score and snap the plastic,I'm using a pair of lexan scissors,the short curved blade type,to cut the parts out. This makes a lot more sense to me,knowing my ponchance for cutting myself rather than the workpiece,and I must say,that it's a breeze to cut with these scissors too.
So far,I've cut out both sections of the hull;the motor mount and the base moulding for the superstructure;dry fitted the propshaft, that's all that i'll be doing just now.
A pic of the component parts of this little 18" tug.
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Nice one Dreadstar.
Right, it's Wendesday, you have 3 days to get it complete and on the water!
... tick, tick, tick..... ok2
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LOL Martin,unfortunately,I've been moved to another job within the company I work for,which means slightly longer hours,the good part is,no more call-outs. :-))
I think that even I would be hard pressed to do the build in 3 days,not if we want it to look any way decent. :embarrassed: The good thing is,is that the kit is in a medium that I'm used to working with. This time I'm not going to rush this too much,(famous last words),as I want to produce a nice looking model. :-))
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Have also started to build this a few weeks ago !! :}
A few of us have bought some as a replacement for the Pollux to take on the Ribble Club in a game of Football, so looks will not be great as they will be built for Strength to take the knocks those mighty pollux's are capable of giving.
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Roughly what scale do you think the wee Midas is? {:-{
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All parts roughly cut out now,funnel and base halfs glued together,along with the two halfs of the rudder,which has a balsa core added to it for rigidity.
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The parts placed loosely in position,no Martin,they haven't been glued yet.
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Neatly done. i will be following with this post with interest as ive been looking for a model just like this to build :)
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Now before you all scream at me for the way that I've done this,I use what I have available,in this case square section plastistrut.
Looking at the fact that this boats' rudder requires a skeg to hold the lower end of the rudder,and the fact that I have no brass strip available,I took the decision to make one out of square plastistrut,which should do the trick. I've still to plate off the open ends of the beam,but other than that,it's a solid joint. I've added a few cosmetic parts to the funnel,just to be different. I'm enjoying building this little tug,but a lot of the component parts will require reinforcing,as the plasticard that they're made from is a touch on the thin side,0.030" approx.
I also ran a band of plasticard around the join of the two halfs of the rudder,to reinforce the join.
This wee tug looks as if it might be 1/72nd scale,do you think that's about right?
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I've started work on the bridge section,after reinforcing the deck and cutting out the main access panel. It's a pity that I'm having to rely on my old camera to take pics at the moment,but my daughter has my good just now. With a bit of luck,I'll get it back tomorrow,which might just help prevent these build pics from being quite so washed out.
I've cut out the windows for the bridge,though I haven't framed them yet,and added the doors,but unfortunately you can't see them in the pic. I'm also building a basic instrument panel within the bridge,as I'm going to glaze the windows. I've also increased the height of the funnel,as I felt that it was a little too short. Nothing has been glued together as yet,as the final design of this tug hasn't been finalised yet.
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I haven't had a lot of time today to work on my wee tug,so rather than try doing the fiddly wheelhouse bits and pieces,I decided to throw together a basic mast assembly. I just made a basic scanner as per the instructions,which I'll no doubt replace in due course,but it should suffice in the meantime.
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Now before you all scream at me for the way that I've done this,I use what I have available,in this case square section plastistrut.
Looking at the fact that this boats' rudder requires a skeg to hold the lower end of the rudder,and the fact that I have no brass strip available,I took the decision to make one out of square plastistrut,which should do the trick. I've still to plate off the open ends of the beam,but other than that,it's a solid joint. I've added a few cosmetic parts to the funnel,just to be different. I'm enjoying building this little tug,but a lot of the component parts will require reinforcing,as the plasticard that they're made from is a touch on the thin side,0.030" approx.
I also ran a band of plasticard around the join of the two halfs of the rudder,to reinforce the join.
This wee tug looks as if it might be 1/72nd scale,do you think that's about right?
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Re the rudder, that is exactly how we, 3 out have done it :-)) have also added strength to the strut by putting 2 small screws through it ..
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I've done a little bit more work done on her between yesterday and today. I've plated the fore and aft decks with 1/32" balsa sheet,as well as reinforcing the underside of the aft deck with 0.040" plasticard,in order to be able to fit a towing bollard.I've fitted a 'hoop' on the rear deck,made from 3mm square plastic rod,carefully bent and glued into place. This will have the joint reinforced with some epoxy later on. I've also fitted the upper post mast,which will carry the signal lights,(just dummies unfortunately),though I've still to fit the cross tree part of the mast.(Again just plastic tube,in order to keep the top weight down). :-))
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Not a great deal to report today,but that's the wheelhouse windows framed and glazed now.
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I hoped that I'd be quick enough to catch the post before it froze in place. Ah well. Towing bollard bolted into place on the rear deck using two M4 bolts.
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Hello Dredstar
I have just came accross your post on the King Midasi bought this kit on e bay some time ago and as a relative novice to model boats and using styrene, it was great to find your post the kit came with a motor prop tube etc, can you tell me if this is suitable for radio control using the motor etc supplied, and also any more advice on where the model needs strenthining, and painting and finishing the model?
Can you let me know if you are posting any more info on your progress re the build? as Iwould find this of great help.
Thanks all the best,John.
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Welcome aboard John,and yes this will be a complete build. What you have seen so far on this post is my current build,but you'll need to bear with me,as I'm not racing through this build like I did with my three scratchbuilds. This is my first ever kit build,so I'm having to be careful that I don't mess it up.
Weak areas that I've noticed so far are the rear deck,which if you actually want to do any towing will have to be reinforced,otherwise you'll rip the towing bollard clean out,taking a good part of the rear deck with it. I've added a couple of pics so that you can see where I've reinforced the underside of the deck,and where I've increased the height of the access hatch sides. In answer to your other question,yes you can use the supplied motor to power this tug by R/C means,though I think that I'll be changing mine to either a 385 or 380. I haven't worked out yet just how I'm going to mount the servo for the steering,as the shape of the hull makes this a little tricky. When it comes to painting however,I'm not the best person to ask,as my painting tends to leave a lot to be desired. To be honest John,I havent even decided on the colours that I'm going to paint it yet,that'll need to wait until I've built the model first.
Personally,I don't like the kit propshaft assembly,as the outer tube has no shaft seals,and is of a slightly too large a bore for my liking.I'm seriously thinking of ordering up a new one,thats of a better quality than this kit supplied one. I can see water getting into the hull of the boat very easily with the current set-up,even with the proptube filled with Vaseline,as the tube ends are open.
Just keep watching this post for further thoughts and pics of my build.
David.
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Hello David
Thanks for your quick reply the photos of your buid will be a great help to me and also the info on strengthining the rear deck,
I will follow your post with interest, I note you say you did three scratch buids prior to this kit are these posted on the site, if they are where would I find them? when it comes to painting I am not to clever at it myself in fact the word rubbish springs to mind !! I like the colours shown on the posting by Martin I will try to e mail him for any tips/advice on how to achieve this type of finish.
Thanks again David all the best, John.
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If you look about a third of the way down on page 1 of the beginners section,you'll find HMS Cyclops.....Dreads next build. Also try these links.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=24729.msg243258#msg243258
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=23827.msg233671#msg233671
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I've managed to do a bit more to her today:- I've added the roof support beams for the wheelhouse,as well as partitioning off the rear section of the cabin;started work on a basic control panel for the cab;mounted the forward winch,and built up and fitted the bollards to the bullwork.
I know that it's all fiddly things that I'm doing just now because,I still haven't decided on how I'm going to build the upper deck,do I leave it as standard;do I cut it away as was done in the photo that Martin posted;do I cut out openings in the upper deck and fit steps up to the upper deck? These are the three options that I have running through my head at the moment,any one of which are a viable option,but I'm having a hard time deciding on which version to build.
The next decision that I have to make,is what do I do with the main superstructure,do I add the tow hook as standard,(I'll need to drill and tap it 3mm and mount it to the reinforced upper rear bulkhead),or do I leave her as a rear bollard towing tug only? I don't suppose it really matters much,as I've no intention of using her for any sort of towing competition,she'll just be used for fon and rescues.
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Now I'm not too sure about the number of lights,but that's the mainmast completed.
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I didn't like the kit supplied propshaft,so I ordered a new M2 one from Marks Model Bits,and boy is he fast,next day delivery,A1. I've had no time over the last couple of days to do any work on the wee Midas,so I thought that I'd stick the new parts roughly in place with Whitetac, just to see how she'll look. I still haven't decided whether or not to fit the towhook,so it's just sitting on the rear deck for asthetic purposes. The new propshaft is in,but nothing as yet has been glued on the inside,as I'll need to modify the motor mount moulding to accomodate the new motor. I intend keeping the shaft mount end on the moulding,and just cutting off the rest,to allow me to fit a proper wooden mount. I've still to figure out where I'm going to put the servo mounts too.
I ordered up a ships horn,two airvents and two liferaft containers,all in 1/72nd scale. These have been placed in their roughly finished positions. The bridge walkway walls have been fitted,though these will be getting gaps cut in them to accomodate the liferafts and rear access steps.
Let me know if you think that this'll look respectably like a real tug,or is it too fantasy looking?
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Ok,so my painting leaves a lot to be desired,and the instrument panel is just something I thought up,but here's the bridge's current condition.
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I had to take SWMBO christmas shopping today,so I've not really had any time to build again today,but I did manage to put together the liferaft holder/launchers today. ( Please forgive the poor quality of the pics.) Once I finish off the upper deck,I'll be able to move onto the main superstructure.
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Oh boy,is it ever good to get your decent camera back,what a difference from the 5.0Mpx that I'd had to resort to. Having said that,my decent one is only 7.1Mpx,but it's a Nikon,rather than an old Olympus.
Anyway,I've finally gotten around to epoxying in the propshaft,at just the right angle that I can fit the 40mm 3-blade prop that I bought for her. Now I'll need to be really careful about just how much throttle I use,as she's got a 380 motor in her. It should certainly give her a good amount of power for towing purposes,both in pushing and pulling. ESC wise,she'll be fitted with a Nosram Hawk Power Reverse 15T limit speed controller,which will definately be big enough,with the added benefit that it's totally waterproof weighs just 19g and is only 26mm square.
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Looking good! What glue are you using? :-)
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Mostly I'm using Plastic Weld Martin,even though I prefer Mek Pak,but it's ruddy difficult to get nowadays. I told you that this wasn't going to be a rush build like the previous three. With this being,all be it a basic kit,I need to take my time with it,in case I mess it up. I still haven't got a finished picture of the tug in my head yet,hence the slow build. If I just wanted to build her as kit,then I might well have had her built by now,just awaiting the paint. However,I wanted to make a tug that suited me,but my brain has just point blank refused to give me any definate ideas,hence the constant pondering. {:-{
Still,I feel that I'm getting there,slowly but surely. The hull does need some reinforcing,though I'm darned if I can figure out just how to do it.
The rudder assy is giving me a bit of a headache just now,trying to put it together without the rudder arm fouling on the underside of the deck. I'll find a solution eventually,but it's doing my head in right at the moment. I'm going to leave it alone for a while,and hopefully a solution will present itself when I'm not thinking about it. :embarrassed:
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What about cutting out the stern section of the deck and putting in a raised section , then cover with a plank section, but seeing that you have allready put the bollards in not sure if it would look right.
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I told you that the solution would present itself if I wasn't thinking about it. I'd mounted the rudder linkage arm upsidedown,i.e.it has a high side and a low side,and you can easily guess which way up I had it. By just turning the link arm upside down,so that the large boss end is upward,it clears the deck no problem. Talk about a Homer moment........Doh :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
A pic of the completed rudder and 40mm prop.
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This is not going to be an easy boat to ballast,with the electronics in it,I loaded in all the lead that I had,about 8lbs,and it's just about right. Now this is an excessive amount surely,the good thing is,no leaks.
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Did a basic test in the indoor tank,whatever you do,don't fit a 40mm 3-blade prop onto this boat,certainly not with a 380 motor,unless you want it to plane. Trying to ballast this thing so that the prop doesn't cavitate when in reverse has been a tricky balancing act,but I think I've got there.
I'm going to strip off the 40mm prop and try both a 30mm and a 25mm 3-blade plastic prop to see which handles better. I've still got a long way to go before she's ready to test sail. I'll be running this boat on just 4.8V rather than 7.2V,as even on 4.8V,which I tested her with, produces far too many revs to be comfortable. Nothing has been glued in place yet,even the servo is just held in place with a bit of whitetac. :-))
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All the lead and the motormount too have been 'glued' into place with silli-sealer,I'm even experimenting doing the same with the servo. Once the sealer has cured,I'll be adding a small battery box and possibly a shelf to fit the ESC and receiver to. The good thing is,that the 30mm prop provides more than enough power for this little tug. The only real downside to this model is it's rudder,as it's like a barn door in thickness,over an 1/8" in thickness. However,I said to myself,'self,you're not buying any more bits for this build',that I'd try out the kit parts first,except for the proptube,and then after testing decide whether or not to modify some of the parts.
Colour wise,I'm not too sure,red oxide on the lower hull certainly,with black above,but it's the superstructure colours that have me stumped just now. I have White,Dark Blue,Black and Sand available to me plus a dark green somewhere. Any ideas gentlemen?
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"silli-sealer" ???
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Yup,it's what we used to call silicon sealer when I worked as a hospital engineer. :-))
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I don't know what happened to the post I tried to put up yesterday {:-{ Ok then,to recap,now I'm not building this tug as quickly as some of you may like,but I thought that I'd post up a few pics of my float tests and the beginnings of my painting of her.
I still haven't settled on a colour scheme for her,and I've still to work on the main superstructure,but I do have the hull more or less painted now. Nothing has been glued together as yet.
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A little bit more painting done today,with the tugs deck now looking distinctly grubby,not planned by the way. Decks have been painted,where appropriate,(Gnarlock Green),and the insides of the bulwarks also done,along with the banding on the funnel(freehand).
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Wheelhouse now painted.
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No new pictures today,as all I was doing was refixing the lead ballast in the bottom of the tug. I left her sitting in the bath for 4 hours today,just to be sure that there are no leaks,and guess what.......there are none..brill. :-)) The only problem with this little tug is,that it's no lightweight,it's actually heavier than the Cyclops,by at least a 1lb. This has really surprised me,considering just how light this model is to start off with. I can't tell you the final all-up weight,as I don't own a set of scales,though I'd guestimate around 8-10lbs possibly. I'll try to get some more painting done to her upper works tomorrow,before I tackle the main superstructure. O0
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I've more or less finished the major painting of her now,and because I'm impatient,I took her down to the pond for a quick test. Now I knew that I'd get water into the hull,as the two halfs were,as was the rest of the boat,only held together with Whitetac. ( I didn't really have any opportunity to take pics,as the water was a little on the choppy side.)
I couldn't get the tug up to even half throttle as,the water was coming up to the underside of the bow flange,and the stern was beginning to dig-in. Maneuvering was really not all that bad considering the thickness of the rudder in section. Once I've glued this little boat together properly,she'll make a nice wee adition to my growing fleet.
I repainted the wheelhouse roof black,because the dark blue roof just looked too out of place.
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I've tried joining the upper and lower halfs of the hull together with a bead of silicon sealer,held together with the bumper strip which clamps the two halfs together. I'm not sure if this will work or not,as I've had to repaint the hull,due to the masking tape pulling off parts of the paint. I'm not sure why this happened,as I'd prepped the hull before painting,by washing it down and rubbing the surface with 800 grade w/d. :embarrassed: It's a pity,as the weather is far better for test sailing today too,with the pond being very calm. Ah well,maybe another day then,and I can get some video made of her.
It won't be long now before I can start gluing all the components together in their final positions.
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More or less finished now.
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... not bad! %)
Get some crew figures on there sir!
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Don't worry Martin,the deck crew are still to come. At the moment the only crew members on board her are the skipper and helmsman in the wheelhouse. :-))
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Finally managed to get down to the pond today for her first real test sail. I don't know what I did to my camera,but it seems to be out of focus,unfortunately,I didn't have my glasses on at the time or I might have been able to sort it out. You'll note that I keep losing the tug in this vid,that's because I'm using a stick controller rather than my usual pistol grip one. This model is using a T4U 2.4GHz controller,and the throttle that I'm using is just 2 clicks up from neutral. She's running on a 3-blade 25mm prop with a 4.8V 3600mAh battery. I did give her a couple of full throttle bursts,but I was afraid that I'd get water inside the boat,as the stern joint went under the surface on full power. However,I needn't have worried,as when I finally brought her in after half an hour,the inside of the boat was completely dry. :-))
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Very nice and compact build, Dreadstar. She sure moves out when you 'put the hammer down'. O0
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Excellent job! :-))
Who did you get to do the naming ceremony?
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Great little tug, well done! She looks very stable.
Hama
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I'm afraid Martin that this was just a test sail,she's yet to be named. Any suggestions greatfully recieved,(within reason that is). Speed wise people,she was operating on barely 20% throttle,remember,that it's a 380 motor that's in her and not the more common 385. For a small tug,she's got a lot of spare power,even with just a 25mm prop. Originally,I'd been going to fit a 40mm prop,but even just trying that in the bath told me that she'd be overpowered,so I downsized to a 30mm one before realising that I'd need to drop down to a 25mm one if I wanted to be able to attempt to control her at low speeds. :embarrassed:
I've still to finish off the main superstructure as you can see,it's missing the doors and handrails still,plus the steps up from the deck to the hook level. I also need to lighten her a bit as she's sitting rather low in the water at the moment,but these are picky little points that can be done at any time. ok2
Although this little kit is pretty straight forward,I found it harder to do for some reason or other ,than my previous builds,especially trying to fit the gubbins inside her,and finding that a lot of glues just won't work. The servo is still just mounted in place with a large blob of Whitetac,which seems to work surprisingly well. On the whole, I must admit that I'm quite proud of my wee tug,as it's turned out better than I'd hoped it would. At the end of the day,it's my painting that tends to let my builds down,but I'm still learning. :-))
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I'm afraid Martin that this was just a test sail,she's yet to be named. Any suggestions greatfully recieved,(within reason that is).
How about "Lady Star" (or the name of a loved one ) :}
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Thinking about this a little more,and I was thinking,shouldn't tugs have a more masculine name? Now since this is a King Midas,what about Auric Rex,or even The Golden Touch? Other ideas that I had included Diomedes;Aenus;Viator;Speedy(because of the 380 in her);Legend; or even The Mighty Atom?
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I finally got round to fitting the steps from the rear deck to the tow deck;from the upper deck to the wheelhouse roof and the ladders to the rear of the mainmast. :-))
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I've also added a new radar dome above the scanner.
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Hello Dreadstar
I have been following your post with great interest and the King Midas is looking great, but I see you say you had some problems gluing the parts togther how did you overcome this as I said the model is looking great, would MEK PAK orPlastic Weld work on it? what glue did you find that worked best/
Thanks all the best John.
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Mek Pak & Plastiweld both work brilliantly on this model,however,the problem comes when you are trying to glue non-plastic materials to this plastic. You must treat the surface of the plastic that you are gluing onto with some w/d 180 grit if you want even Araldite to stick non-plastic materials to it. Superglue also works well,but not on for instance balsa. Keep away from the poundland type epoxy's,as they will not stick to this plastic at all :((
Most of this model has been glued together with Plastiweld,which I highly recommend for this type of plasti. I hope this answers your question John.
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Right then lads,I went out this morning to re-film her test run,this time with some full speed runs. She's a very stable boat,probably because of the amount of lead that's in her,as you can see,she's got a fair wee turn of speed. :-)) A vid and a few pics.
http://youtu.be/HLMioZrKIYs (http://youtu.be/HLMioZrKIYs)
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I did my lone sailor bit today for about 30 mins,then had to give up,as I could no longer feel my fingertips. It was a ruddy cold wind today,not particularly strong,but cold. Having said that,I had fun just blasting the Midas around the pond at whatever speed I chose. The water was a little choppy,but nothing to write home about,even driving the boat at full chat into the wind,with water splashing over the foredeck,no water got into the boat. For a second level seal ,other than just the extended sides of the main hull opening,there is a liberal smearing of that old favourite.....Vaseline.
It was however just too cold to do any filming today,though I did snap off a few pics. Just how did I manage to get to the pond today I hear you ask. Well it was quite simple,SWMBO and the kids went up to see her mum this afternoon,and I took the oportunity to nip down to the park whilst they were there.
A few pics from today,trying to show the only two deck crew that i have just now.
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I'm getting ready to head down to the pond again today,to give her another run. I've removed some of the lead from the bow,which has lifted the bow up to the waterline now,whereas before,she was running too low at the bow. I'm going to see if this improves her running attitude any,and see if the bow stays out of the water a bit more,rather than riding as low as it had been. Providing that it's not too cold,I should manage to get some video made of her today.
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Well,I'm back and you'll be able to tell from the video,that it was a touch on the chilly side. I've tried to include a bit of a comentary in this vid,but it wasn't easy. Anyway,here's todays installment,quite possibly my longest vid to date as well.
http://youtu.be/K6KcBMLERjE (http://youtu.be/K6KcBMLERjE)
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Well,that's all the major work done on her now,I've just received and fitted the bow protector. Now I know that the way I've tied it on is not the correct way,but without using glue,I couldn't see another way of keeping the bumper hard up against the flange. It's just secured using multiple half-hitches and no extra string. I'm just awaiting the vinyl lettering now,and she'll be more or less complete. :-))
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I went down to the club this afternoon,expecting at the very least,one other soul to be sailing their boat. Guess what,yet again I was the only member out on the pond. A few of the others weren't venturing out because of the large amount of broken branches in the pond,after Tuesday's big blow,which toppled four large trees in the park,one of them right next to the pond.
http://youtu.be/YqEBZxhiWZ4 (http://youtu.be/YqEBZxhiWZ4)
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I might be you Dreadstar! :P
http://penddraig.co.uk/pen/tests/sanity.htm
http://davesource.com/Fringe/Fringe/Tests/Sanity_Test.html
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Martin,didn't you know that insanity is hereditary...........you get it from your children.
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I managed to find another few figures to use as crew,the first one is only mid way through being painted. Name added to funnel.
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Since yesterday was not a good one for sailing,I took the opportunity today of nipping down to the park,to test out the Auric Rex under tow conditions. Since I don't have access to a barge,I had to settle for using my heaviest boat,in this case my 1/24th RTTL. I don't know what I was expecting,but she performed far better than I could have imagined,considering how small her prop is. I took a video,as I do,but I hadn't realised just how long it actually was,until I started to upload it. There was at times some pretty stong cross winds to contend with,but I think I did not too bad for someone who knows sod all about towing.
Some pics and the vid.
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http://youtu.be/tLHSEh0FHSM (http://youtu.be/tLHSEh0FHSM)
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I was looking forward to giving the Auric a run around the pond today,so imagine my surprise to find it frozen over. Now not being one of those people who give up easily,I decided to smash some of the ice up so that I could at the very least get some pleasure out of the day.
What I hadn't bargained on was the ice being a 1/4" thick,not that that stopped me overly much,but it did mean that by the time I brought the tug back in,I'd lost a fair amount of paint off the bows. I'm thinking that it's time to get some of my brass angle section out,and glue it to the prow of the boat,just like all my other boats have. Hopefully,this'll help protect the bows from further damage.
A couple of pics amidst the ice floes.
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Found and fitted a short length of brass angle to the bow of the tug,I'm just waiting for the Araldite to set.The damaged paintwork has also been touched up.
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A few pics and a short vid from today.
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http://youtu.be/jBjxNgSvLEA (http://youtu.be/jBjxNgSvLEA)
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I want a posed photo with you and the tug for photo of the month please.... a preferably a pretty lady and the tug!
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Now you want Jam on it Martin LOL
Dave
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I've no problem if you'd like to use a pic for photo of the month,but you don't want a pic of my ugly mug spoiling things Martin. :embarrassed:
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Credit where credit is due. :-))
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PM sent Martin. :-))
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For my first ever kit build,I'm really pleased with how with the model has turned out. There are still some jobs that I need to do to her,mainly a holding plate for the servo,which is still just held in place with a blob of Whitetac. Other than that,apart from maybe some more deck clutter and towline guard rails,I think that she's more or less finished.
She has turned out to be a very stable and fun little boat to sail,with a lot of reserve power,thanks to the 380 motor that I used. I may at a later time change this motor for a 385,which will allow me to utilize larger props than the diminutive 25mm one that she has just now. For a beginner,this should make quite a nice model,though the instructions could be better,I ended up not using the included motor mount/battery tray,as I couldn't figure out a way to get the batteries to fit,other than that,I really liked the kit. :-))
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Time for some repair work,namely the rudder. Yesterday,I was having great fun pushing large sheets of ice around the pond with no problems whatsoever,however,when it came time to reverse out of the floes,I struck the rudder on something which effectively caused the rudder to spin free on the shaft. :((
Today,I cut off the kit rudder and I'm in the process of making and installing a new one. Now aluminium or brass plate are something that I just don't have,so I'm going to try out an alternative,namely 0.40" plasticard with reinforcing brass hinge clamp strips. This has been Araldited to the rudder shaft,with the brass strips clamped round the shaft with pliers and glued as well. I may well require to add more brass strip to the trailing edge of the rudder to reinforce the plasticard,what do you think?
You can see in these photo's just how small her 25mm prop really is in relation to the rudder.
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Oh well,I'll need to wait 'til sometime next week in order to test out the new rudder. Weather wise today,it's been great,and where have I been....IKEA and various other establishments. The middle daughter decided she wanted to go buy a new set of chest-of drawers and other storage type products,as her mum is busy decorating her room.(I'm not trusted with papering ;) ) The only good thing about IKEA is the hot-dogs. O0
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I finally managed to get to the pond to test out the rudder and do a little filming. I'm afraid that the video clip is just a short one today,without the 'violent' maneuvers that I had been planning,suffice to say,that the turning radius has vastly improved from the previous barndoor rudder. Her reverse steering however is still a bit suspect,as it takes a while to respond,but I can live with that.
The other little boat that you'll see in the video is a Toys 'R' Us special,which runs on just 4xAA batteries. Fortunately,I'm running on 2.4GHz so it didn't get wiped out signalwise.
http://youtu.be/FqURqmab9N4 (http://youtu.be/FqURqmab9N4)
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Just a short vid from today. O0
http://youtu.be/k6z7v6NQhfA (http://youtu.be/k6z7v6NQhfA)
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Hi Dread.
Have you changed the Motor supplied, and what Battery pack are you using.?.
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Yes,I used a 380 motor rather than the kit one,and I'm powering it with 4x3700mAh sub'C' NiMH batteries,which give her around an hours worth of sailing time. I may in the future change the motor to a 385,which will allow me to use a far greater choice of props than just the 25mm one that's fitted to her at the moment.
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Photo of the month March 2012 :-))
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Photo of the month!
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/index.htm
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Thanks Martin :-))
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A short vid from a few weeks ago.
http://youtu.be/vfigwVfwG-E (http://youtu.be/vfigwVfwG-E)
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Well,it's been a while since I posted anything up about the wee Midas,so I thought that I'd let you know about todays outing.
The 6th Annual Scottish tug-towing Champs were on today at Glasgow Richmond MBC and I thought for a laugh that I'd try out this solo-tow game. The tows are selected based upon the size of the model,which in my case was a barge,that had to be maneuvered around a rather tricky in places course. Now,as most of you are aware,this boat doesn't have what one would normally consider as having the best drivetrain for doing this sort of work. Anyway,to cut a long story short,after completing the course,I found out that I had scored 93/100,not too bad for my first ever go at this is it? :-))
Pics to follow.
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Here's another short vid from a few weeks ago.
http://youtu.be/b1T2UxXodbM (http://youtu.be/b1T2UxXodbM)
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Part 2 of the 6th Scottish tug-in,featuring the wee King Midas.
http://youtu.be/65d-9XWMDNY (http://youtu.be/65d-9XWMDNY)
Part 1
http://youtu.be/xmzIvx8q7Rc (http://youtu.be/xmzIvx8q7Rc)
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hello there dreamster im new to this site tonight ,and to remote control boats as well i fancy a tug to go to our local club with my little grandson liam, i have read this thread from post 1 to the last, absalutely brilliant, first class, the pics the videos the information given,, thank you for posting , DAN :-))
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I'm glad that you liked the build Dan,this is the reason that we do these build threads. If you decide to try one of these yourself,and run into trouble,I'll do my best to help you out.
David.