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Title: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: storming on December 02, 2011, 02:12:43 pm
hi all
 has anyone know of a alternative for humbrol 95 concrete ? it's out of production !  I am currently building a Deans kit (HMS Verulum) and the colour notes are for the 4.5 ins  gun decks,  I don't even have a clue what it looks like ?
cheers
  {:-{
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: Arrow5 on December 02, 2011, 04:15:40 pm
I think perhaps a browse on the model railway or military modelling sites might might give a clue. Anybody got an out-of-date Humbrol colour chart to help see what it looks like ??
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: DickyD on December 02, 2011, 04:39:01 pm
Airfix M24 Matt Concrete  :-))

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_airfix.htm
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: Arrow5 on December 02, 2011, 04:50:54 pm
Good  shot Dickie, handy to know the changed numbers.  I wonder what Hu 95 looks like , do Humbrol still issue colour charts ?.
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: DickyD on December 02, 2011, 04:55:23 pm
Dont know if this will help.

http://themodelmakersresource.co.uk/facts/facts010.html
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: Netleyned on December 02, 2011, 04:58:24 pm
Don't remember concrete round the four fives on anything I served on

Ned
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: DickyD on December 02, 2011, 05:01:11 pm
Colour cards, how many do you want ?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=humbrol+colour+chart&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=fgPZTqDaJ4b-8QO728jqDQ&ved=0CE0QsAQ&biw=1280&bih=655
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: Arrow5 on December 02, 2011, 05:07:29 pm
Just the one that shows what Concrete looks like {-)
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 02, 2011, 05:10:11 pm

Very impressive,  Dicky.

The latest colour chart I have from Humbrol bears only the rough relationship to the actual colour listed, unlike previous charts.  This visual representation is only a rough guide nowadays and cannot be relied on. It's best to see the tins

Good job I kept the previous chart, but then the code numbers have altered as well.  %)

 (isn't concrete a sort of grey ?)


ken

Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: Arrow5 on December 02, 2011, 05:46:21 pm
Found one but doesn't look very concretey to me  {:-{  Hint, it is NOT the darker of the two colours on the plane ;D   Were the gun mounts set in concrete (not paint) or was it a sort of wear-proof  skid-proof walkway type thing ?
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 02, 2011, 05:48:35 pm
Have just checked an old Chip Chart, closest equivalent to 95 is 90 Beige Green with a hint of 64 Light grey to tone it down a bit. If that is correct for the model I couldn't say.
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: irishcarguy on December 02, 2011, 08:15:21 pm
Hi guys when I was in the RAF colour blindness tests showed that one in five males was colour blind ( the number was slightly less for women ) When on an operational base if you wanted to access the airport you had to be tested. ( I was o/k at that time) Colour blindness can come & go. So I sometimes wonder how we can tell the difference between colours without having had a colour blindness test, just asking ? Mick B.
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: storming on December 02, 2011, 10:26:05 pm
thanks for your help guys really  appreciate it  , i had already googled for charts Dicky all had 95 omitted,  you can bet your life  it don't look like cured  concrete ( i reckon dive bombers would have loved that  %% ! ) although probably they are talking about fresh uncured concrete which is green .   any photo's  would be b and w ( the kit is a WW11 V class destroyer ) i will try mixing the 90 and a hint of grey as, i have those colours thanks for the help there mate
this is as written on the booklet colour scheme .......    CONCRETE/CEMTEX 95 ( thought that was explosive ?  :o)
i might give Ron Dean a ring see if he can help ?
Norm
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: cos918 on December 02, 2011, 10:49:18 pm
Hello
Howes models of Oxford did do a concrete paint in there Rail Match range of paints. I am not sure if it is still in there range.

John
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: Chuffy on December 03, 2011, 09:17:58 am
Ah, Tug-Kenny, I think you'll find that the colour of the paint in the tin only bares a rough relationship to the colour chart, and the colour on the lid seems to be anything but the colour of the contents and/ or the colour chart. I don't use Humbrol as a rule now, and also shop keepers don't like you stirring it up on the shop counter just to check.lol.

Paul.
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 03, 2011, 11:11:05 am
 
I agree.  The only way is stir it.   :}

I'm into mixing myself as you can achieve the perfect  (to your eyes anyway) shade. Even photographing colours can change their shade. We had this discussion on the Titanic Forum about the exact shade of her funnels. As there were no colour pictures at the time and no paint chips to analyse, it was all down to peoples views.

ken


Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: storming on December 03, 2011, 11:55:19 am
Hi all i got in touch with Deans and they said change it for 144 intermediate blue
thanks again

Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on December 03, 2011, 08:51:07 pm
Hi guys when I was in the RAF colour blindness tests showed that one in five males was colour blind ( the number was slightly less for women ) When on an operational base if you wanted to access the airport you had to be tested. ( I was o/k at that time) Colour blindness can come & go. So I sometimes wonder how we can tell the difference between colours without having had a colour blindness test, just asking ? Mick B.

Mick,

Know some guys who are colour blind and one is in Construction which involves painting.

He gets by, by remembering the shades when suing colours, someone show him which is which and he differentiates by their shades of black and white.

Still makes it awfully awkward.

Really, You have to count your blessings
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: Jonty on December 23, 2011, 03:08:53 pm
  Bit late, but just picked up on this thread. I recall 95 as a pale greeny/grey, not far removed, I think, from Sky. That would tie in with the shot of the model aircraft, where the light colour on the underside must have been either white or Sky. Given that the aircraft has the Sky fuselage band, the light colour would have to be Sky. Why any colour similar to this would be used on the deck of a destroyer is beyond me.
Title: Re: help with humbrol paint 95 concrete
Post by: Netleyned on December 23, 2011, 03:55:45 pm
Most of the ships I visited as a young apprentice in the first years of the 60's
had grey decks slightly darker than shipside grey as a non skid surface around the turrets and mountings.
We young tiffy apps were more interested in the mechanical wonders of the gun loading systems than
the different shades of grey.

Ned