Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Lifeboats => Topic started by: typhoon on December 17, 2011, 09:56:08 pm
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does anyone know the release date of mr metcalfs 36 foot liverpool class. seen some pictures the other day and looks a superb model.
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you mean this one, Typhoon.
was talking to Dave this morning, and he's had a bad cold /viru for weeks and also been very busy so work has slowed on it, but hopes sometime in the spring.
neil.
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yes neil thats the one. looks a little gem doesnt it . would make a lovely display model as well . love the old lifeboats . roll on the spring , in one way or other ! thank you for putting the photos up. .
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thats one I designed for dave about 5 years ago.
neil.
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spoke to dave this week about liverpool lifeboat,he said it is progressing really well and should be on sail about october 2012 price approx £350.
Martin
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that's good news.........will look forward to building one of those.....just ready for Blackpool show..............they are a beaut to sail.......wish I could learn how to download from a vidio camera have some great footage of my daughter sailing the prototype......what a steady little boat she was.
neil.
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Does anyone have any photographs of the fittings on the canopy, especially the safety line loop and the mast crutch. Specifically, I'm trying to work out what colour they should be.
Cheers, Andrew
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You wont be dissappointed with this model when she comes out.A super model,and really works well...it will be worth the wait!
Mick F
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I'm hoping to finish mine before the kit comes out. (I'm assuming that the release date is still october)
Andrew
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Here is mine, she is looking a bit worse for wear as she has attended 23 shows so far this (summer) including 4 lifeboat days. I have two Lifeboat days to go to this weekend, at opposite ends of Cornwall, Sennen Cove on Sunday, and Bude on Bank Holiday monday then one more Lifeboat special day at the St.Ives Boathouse on September 15th.
Any mayhemmers in the area pop in and say hello!
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Wish we could, but it's a bit far away for us! I remember seeing a photo on the cover of Model Boats of the... um... 'unusual' crewman on the foredeck, and was disappointed to find only that one photo. Is she scratch built, or did you use a fibreglass hull? I'll put up a picture or two of mine tomorrow, when I can get her outside for a decent photo.
Andrew
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Here's mine, built as Bassett Green when she was at Poole. She's the only Liverpool I've seen with antifoul.
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t492/heritorasphodel/DSCI00812.jpg)
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Andrew
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Neil, how were the side benches of the kit Liverpool done, 'cos I'm having a bit of trouble with them.
Cheers, Andrew
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Hi andrew........Made the supports out of 5mm square section mahogany strip..........I set up a jig for the length of the uprights so that all were exactly the same and cut them off. then I cut the lengths of the supports to fit where the supports were marked on the plans.
then came the long but enjoyable job of making minature cross halving joints for all four corners, before gluing them up.
this area is one part of Dave Metcalf's kit that has set him back, as I suggested for the kit that he laser cuts the supports out as one peice from ply, but there were a number of lengths ( as to fit to the outer edge of the bench, I had to leave a section onto the back of each support sothat the outer "rim" was the same as the bench measurement.
in the photos you can just see the joints and the extra length to go onto the rea=r which mates up with the inner skin of the hull side.
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Hi Andrew, sorry I haven't answered before! I actually don't make any of my models.I am ashamed to say that I buy them,from various sources,and then do any obvious alterations to change them into the particular boat.My models are all those that were based at Cornish Ports.I neither have the skill or the cofidence to build them myself.I do add radio controls to those that don't already have them,and such things as working lights,radar etc.
The unusual crewmember on my Liverpool Class,is becoming quite famous! He is of course "an old seadog!" The Liverpool is my favourite of all my models,even though I have at last recently obtained a part built Tamar.Again,all my models are in 1/12th scale,and I just find it very rewarding to show some of them at Rally's and Lifeboat Days all round Cornwall,Devon and Somerset,raising funds for the R.N.L.I. I have so far this year raised £2300.00, a total of which I am very proud,but I apologise for my self praise!
Mick F
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Nothing to be ashamed of mick,you either build them or buy them already made.Alot of us have been there and sorry to jump on the band wagon,but if you like "liverpool class" you might like this.Martin
(http://s11.postimage.org/itd4im1y7/001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/itd4im1y7/)
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I was thinking just the other day that the Caister Liverpool would be an interesting and unique subject...
Also, does anyone know if the deck was painted grey when they were built?
Andrew
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Yes it was a medium grey.martin
(http://s9.postimage.org/qe57sfqx7/007.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/qe57sfqx7/)
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I have so far this year raised £2300.00, a total of which I am very proud,but I apologise for my self praise!
Well done Mick - a great effort there.
Dave
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baloo....that image looking FWD yesterday @ 6:42:32 is almost life like....congratulations :-)) ....Derek
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Thank you for that,it is scratch built and made "static" for a change
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A bit of an update on my Liverpool, I have to admit I did lose interest briefly, but I've got back to finishing her off. She's almost done, I reckon I'll be another couple of months or so before she can take to the water.
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I think the only working features are the folding windscreen and the collapsible mast. There are a few bits that aren't finished yet like the bulkhead, the port bench and the belting, but they should be finished fairly soon. Looking at these photos I really should have varnished the canopy more, and this light really doesn't do it any justice. There are 7 commercial bits on her so far, everything else is scratch. I don't suppose anyone has any photos of a post-George Elmy bulkhead, before the radio was moved?
Andrew
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very nice andrew.....very nice indeed.
neil.
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Lovely job Andrew, I have just PMnd you
Mick F
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Very nice Andrew - is the collapsible windscreen scratch?
.... Windscreens have defeated me ..... So far!
Dave
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yeah, the screen is scratch, all out of styrene. The hinge is made from short, thick sections of plastic tube fixed to the canopy, with longer bits of brass tube attached to the screen. The difficult bit is getting the pin in!
The problem with it though is that on the real boat, to hold them up and together there are locating brackets, with a wingnut-ish thing to hold them together. I don't think I could make a working set at this scale, so mine are imitation. They hold the two side screens up well, but the front panel has a tendency to fall forward.
(http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t492/heritorasphodel/63b4c98fb4a5ce566c6a0fd5adf0fbd6.jpg)
Andrew
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This may be a long shot, but does anyone know how how a flag could be flown from the mizen mast of a Liverpool? It must be possible, because I've got photos of the flag on the boat but there are no fixings apparent on Grace Darling (my main boat for reference).
Andrew
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spoke to dave this week about liverpool lifeboat,he said it is progressing really well and should be on sail about october 2012 price approx £350.
Martin
Anyone know how Dave's kit is progressing?
Declan
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Anyone know how Dave's kit is progressing?
Declan
Slowly............spoke to Dave last week and he is working on some cad cut parts for it to make life easier for the modeller.
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Slowly............spoke to Dave last week and he is working on some cad cut parts for it to make life easier for the modeller.
Cheers Neil..
Many thanks for info. We have a model of the 'William and Laura' coming to the station from HQ in Poole and would hopefully like to build an RC version in due course.
Declan
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yes, Declan.............I didn't realise that when I built the motor sailor William and Laura, first motor lifeboat in Ireland stationed at Donaghadee she wasn't the only boat of that name...........when I get my Liverpool off dave I will be building her as W & L.
cheers, neil.
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yes, Declan.............I didn't realise that when I built the motor sailor William and Laura, first motor lifeboat in Ireland stationed at Donaghadee she wasn't the only boat of that name...........when I get my Liverpool off dave I will be building her as W & L.
cheers, neil.
Yes, the William and Laura (from our station) is currently in storage at the Ulster Folk and Transport Museum in Cultra, Belfast. Have to speak to my cousin again to see if I can get up to take photographs. :-)
Declan
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has this kit been shelved ? i know patience is a virtue but ......... ! please can someone enlighten me. soon be winter !
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I had requested one on these kits some time ago, and was advised 'probably in the new year'. Nothing since. Very sad. I am not normally into life boats, but my Uncle served on the Liverpool Class St Ives lifeboat "Edgar George Orlando and Eva Child" ON861. I would love to build a model of it as we used to see her every summer when we stayed there.
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Tony Green steam models at lincoln has brought most of metcalf mouldings models,but they declined to answer weather they brought the Liverpool class,I would say if they did buy the Liverpool class off of Dave then a least 20/30 kits would be snapped up a bit rapid.I am going to kirklees on Sunday if there there I will ask again.Somebody spent a lot of time making the moulds but nothing to show as of yet,as I was told by a close source that Dave metcalf eye site was not as it was.
baloo
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thanks for that info baloo please keep us updated with any further developments if any regards.
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I have there ph number somewhere ( Tony green) but I will see if there at kirklees 1st to ask them again,as they brought dave's models/moulds/kits and it would be nice to know what's happening with the Liverpool class
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The kit will be produced in about a year or so.
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a year or so jeez :(( hibernation for me then !
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so are his other kits still available but through tony green steam models ??
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He has about 5 or 6 kits on display,that is why I said to him,are you doing the Liverpool and he said what I have on display at present but more to follow
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just spoke to tony green and he told me hes not got any molds for the liverpool class . dave metcalf sold the molds along with the ann letitia russell to someone else. he doesnt know to who . However tony green will be producing the rest of metcalfs kit range in the near future .
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If you want a Liverpool Class but don't want to wait for a kit that may or may not come out at some point in the future, your best bet i reckon is to get a Hull from Orion Mouldings and a set of plans from the RNLI - see links below :-))
http://www.orionmouldings.com/apps/webstore/products/show/5359317 (http://www.orionmouldings.com/apps/webstore/products/show/5359317)
http://www.rnlishop.org.uk/about-rnli/model-making-plans/info/liverpool-lifeboat-drawings/997048.html (http://www.rnlishop.org.uk/about-rnli/model-making-plans/info/liverpool-lifeboat-drawings/997048.html)
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thanks for that charlie but personally would rather have a kit to get me old gnashers into everything in a box instead of searching for this and that but thanks all the same. shame really but we live in hope.