Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Lifeboats => Topic started by: Peewee on March 31, 2012, 05:19:39 pm
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Hi All,
Well i have started the Waveney build, though i still am working out which one. I am leaning towards Barham as it was based in East Anglia and used to holiday near where she was stationed. I don't suppose anyone has any detailed pictures of her?
Started by sanding down the mold lines to end up with a smooth finish
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1653.jpg)
there was a couple of small blemishes around the joins and these were treated accordingly
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1652.jpg)
i then decided to drill out the A frames ready for their bushes,
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1650.jpg)
at this point the Wife commented that it might be considered a little overkill with the chosen method :D
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1651.jpg)
rudder shafts were next and i decided to possibly over do the bracing, but better safe than sorry
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1654.jpg)
and stand made also. dose not seem much for an afternoon but at leastits a start
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I have a rudder / Propeller alignment question.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the rudders are aligned slightly offset to the props. for the life of me i can not locate the picture or text that shows this. is anyone able to either confirm that they are either in-line or as i believe the rudders are set slightly wider than the props.
cheers
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Peewee, If I owned a drill press like that then all my drilling would be overkill too {-)
Why not use it?
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I have a rudder / Propeller alignment question.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that the rudders are aligned slightly offset to the props. for the life of me i can not locate the picture or text that shows this. is anyone able to either confirm that they are either in-line or as i believe the rudders are set slightly wider than the props.
cheers
On some real boats, rudder posts are usually slightly out of alignment with prop. shafts so that the shaft can be withdrawn from the boat without removing the rudder. It follows that they only need to be the width of the prop. shaft off-centre to achieve this.
Chris
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watching this with a lot of interest just about to order one tassie48
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Finally found the link i was looking for ref the props. http://www.44mlb.com/44-001-photos.htm about half way down i will hopefully install these today.
I have also decided to install normal motors as i found a couple of spped controlers in the workshop, so seems pointless not to use them, %%
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Prop shafts installed, first picture shows the angle of offset that i decided upon
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1656.jpg)
and a trial fit, the grey streaks is filler in a couple of scores from the moulding
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1657.jpg)
the A frames were secured with the screw/nuts provided with the addition of a brass plate glued into place
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1665.jpg)
side and rear angle of the installation
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1664.jpg)
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1661.jpg)
now also almost finished sanding down the hull :-)
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I like your build & will be watching with interest. I have got to like the lifeboat builds just from watching Neils triple builds on here, good luck. Mick B.
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Looking good im watching with intrest
keep it up
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Great presentation and lovely pics Peewee, will also be following your log with great interest, and as rmaddock said what a cracking bit of kit you have there.
regards, Tony. :-))
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Thank you for your comments, Tony, i have been following your build with intrest too
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Silly question time, does anyone know if there are any acurate engine noise devices such as Actions noisy thing suitible for this class of lifeboat?
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Not sure,
However here in Whitby, the current pilot boat is the old rnlb margaret graham (44-005) and assuming the engines in her are the same as your boat of choice, you could record them and use the noisy thing.
I think theres also a chap in the north east who owns a waveney and made her into a fishing boat. Not sure if he's re-engined her or not.
Dan
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Cheers Dan,
I have just checked, the one you mentioned seems o of had Cummins ond my prefered had Caterpiller 3208T. but i like the idea of recording the actual sound
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Just checked,
The fishing boat is 44-002 - http://www.flickr.com/photos/lifeboatphotography/5824208230/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lifeboatphotography/5824208230/)
Dan
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Cheers Dan,
I have just checked, the one you mentioned seems o of had Cummins ond my prefered had Caterpiller 3208T. but i like the idea of recording the actual sound
Then find a Mersey Class station and record them !! :-))
The Mersey is fitted with twin 3208T Caterpillar engines.
Mike
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Good thinking Mike :-))
got into the workshop for a couple of hours today, though i don't seem to of achieved much.
firstly got the rudder servo mount installed
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1667.jpg)
then spent what seemed like ages sorting out the motor mount bracket, once fully dried then i will add further support battons either side. the motors are currently going to be Turbo 900 maybe a bit big but plenty of power to get out of trouble :}
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1668.jpg)
then started rough cutting the front moulding to fit.
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1670.jpg)
very much enjoying this build and hopefully will get some more time over the weekend
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H All.
Well yesterday i had a nightmare, placing the deck onto the supports it just refused to line up at all. over an hour of measuring and laying the 2 half decks on top of each other could not find an error in the measurements. so instead of getting frustrated >>:-( i left it and had a beer. O0
this morning with fresh eyes i immediately zeroed in on the problem, {:-{ the hull has quite a twist, grab both ends and twist the hull and everything lines up. all i need to work out now is how the hell do i do twist the hull? all ideas welcome.
a couple of shots to show how it manifested to me and yesterdays confusion. i would like to say that the twist is not an issue with the kit as we all know fiberglass can move over time, i should have picked this up sooner, but at least the deck has not been glued on.
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1674.jpg)
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1675.jpg)
Ian
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I had this issue, Not sure if it was a twisted hull but lineup issues all the same.
I simply made one bit of deck a bit longer. I may have cut back the fore and aft deck on an angle, i just dont know but it was quickly sorted.
Dan
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Ian....or you could contact Quinton Nelson who is brokering the old Waveney Helen Turnbull, who is a very helpfull chap.........would probably be able to put you in touch with the owner seller who might be able to help with the true Waveney sound......
http://www.nelsonsboats.co.uk/boatdescription.html?BoatID=169
neil.
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Well its been ages. my excuse is i have my first baby daughter. O0
I have made 2 new half decks to take into account of the hull twist. i decided this was easier than trying to straighten the hull
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1680.jpg)
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Well its been ages. my excuse is i have my first baby daughter. O0
I have made 2 new half decks to take into account of the hull twist. i decided this was easier than trying to straighten the hull
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1680.jpg)
congratulations Peewee, ......................life will never be the same again, lol................I gave up modelling for two years and sold my little cottage industry to Dave Metcalf when my two daughters came along..........nothing more important than your kids.
have a lovely time watching her grow up.
neil.
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your right there Neil. i was aloud a couple of hours for fathers days :embarrassed:
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Well number one apprentice and mother allowed a few hours in the workshop.
first task was to sand and re-twist the rear cabin into shape. its amazing what submerging fiberflass into boiling water can do.
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1681.jpg)
next was to install the steps and side panels into the qtr deck. i prefer sid panels to sanding the fibreglass smooth. i never seem to be able to get it totally flat
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1682.jpg)
against the side panels are the additional supports, these i made off the boat. port and starboard are slightly different
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1683.jpg)
and a picture showing a loose trial fit
(http://i716.photobucket.com/albums/ww169/peacocki/Waveney%20Class/DSCF1684.jpg)
i am doing all this prior to the deck being permanently fitted as they will end up under a deck overhang. and with my fat fingers this way round gives me the most access.
regards
Ian
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Hi All,
Quick question, on the 2 cabin mouldings some of the rivets have holes in and some are flat. has anyone got an idea on how to bring them back to pronominal. it does not show too much at the moment but i am sure once painted it will stick out like a sore thumb.
cheers
Ian
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tiny blobs of either pva glue or 2 part liquid epoxy will do the trick, administered with a cocktail stick.