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Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Neil on August 23, 2012, 01:18:03 pm

Title: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: Neil on August 23, 2012, 01:18:03 pm
Received this this morning......one of many a day which I bounce back to sender and block........but this one cracked me up...............the spelling and grammer is even more worse than my own which I use on here.........pray tell me.....no one falls for these emails do they and send off their details.......thing is I don't have a bank account with half of those that send the letters to me {-) {-) {-) {-)

tell me NO!!!!

Dear Santander User,
 
Santander Bank is upgrading thier database
so all account users all required to participate
on this ongoing programme.
 
You are required to download the letter, reed
and follow the instructions so that you can upgrade
your online banking for more easier and efficient browsing.
 
This new server will keep your account from fraudulant activities
and will keep your online safe.
 
We here to serve you better.
 
Thank you
Santander Bank
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: essex2visuvesi on August 23, 2012, 01:21:39 pm
LOL they cannot even spell fraudulent
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: TheLongBuild on August 23, 2012, 01:25:21 pm
Oh Yes All the time, just because I Don't bank with them does not mean I don't like to keep safe    :} :} :} %% %% :kiss: :police:
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: boatmadman on August 23, 2012, 01:38:10 pm
Whats wrong with that, its nice to see my mortgage company taking security so seriously - I await with poised fingers to receive my e mail! <*< <*< :o %)
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: TheLongBuild on August 23, 2012, 01:42:44 pm
We Joke about it but the worring thing is that some , Of course no-one on Mayhem but someone will reply to it.. <:(

I personally just delete them and do not respond in anyway.  I delete ones from my own banks  :} as if they have sent a genuine message it will be in the inbox when you log in. 8)
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: boatmadman on August 23, 2012, 01:50:17 pm
Yeah I NEVER reply or return to sender, trouble is, if you return the e mail it confirms that your email is a valid address and opens up the potential for even more rubbish.

Ian
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: TheLongBuild on August 23, 2012, 01:52:26 pm
Yeah I NEVER reply or return to sender, trouble is, if you return the e mail it confirms that your email is a valid address and opens up the potential for even more rubbish.

Ian


Yep   :-))
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: malcolmfrary on August 23, 2012, 01:53:30 pm
It costs them sweet very little to send a million of these out.  If there is just one mug in that million, it all becomes worthwhile.
Its been a long time since I heard from John in Nigeria.  I do hope nothings happened to him.  Nothing trivial, anyway.
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: dodgy geezer on August 23, 2012, 02:04:46 pm
Received this this morning......one of many a day which I bounce back to sender and block........but this one cracked me up...............the spelling and grammer is even more worse than my own which I use on here.........pray tell me.....no one falls for these emails do they and send off their details.......thing is I don't have a bank account with half of those that send the letters to me {-) {-) {-) {-)

tell me NO!!!!

....


Oddly, these scams, and the classic Nigerian 419er, are MUCH more carefully crafted than you give them credit for. All the misspellings and poor English constructions are intentional.

These scams depend on a carefully-nurtured interplay between the scam artist and the gullibility of the recipient. It's not enough for the recipient to initially believe that they are going to get a fortune, or that their account needs the password submitted to an unknown address, or whatever. They must keep believing this throughout the whole process. Usually, they are milked for cash for some considerable time before the scam ends.

Though the initial email is a low cost to the attacker, all the follow-up work has quite a high cost in resources, and in exposure to detection. It is therefore well worth the attacker's time to set a filter at the beginning of the scam, such that only those who are extremely gullible, or whose greed causes them to suspend their normal critical facilities, are allowed through. Such people will provide much more money for the attacker's outlay than the strategy of letting everyone who is the least bit curious through into the second stage, where the attacker starts to expend effort.

The intentional misspellings and use of well-understood 'standard' scam scenarios constitute this filter. If someone responds to this kind of email, the attacker can be fairly sure that they do not know much about scams on the internet, do not check with their friends or look up known frauds - all features the attacker loves to see in victims.

I have a Game Theory paper somewhere on the subject - heavily mathematical, unfortunately, but if you can wade through the calculus you can understand just how advantageous it is to present an apparently slapdash scam compared to a carefully crafted one. If anyone is interested I will chase up a link...


 >:-o >>:-( <*< <:(         8)

 





Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: Artistmike on August 23, 2012, 02:15:30 pm

I have a Game Theory paper somewhere on the subject - heavily mathematical, unfortunately, but if you can wade through the calculus you can understand just how advantageous it is to present an apparently slapdash scam compared to a carefully crafted one. If anyone is interested I will chase up a link...


I'd be very interested in that if you do manage to find it.  :-)
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: essex2visuvesi on August 23, 2012, 02:20:16 pm
Me too... what you have just posted makes perfect sense
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: dodgy geezer on August 23, 2012, 02:32:53 pm
Me too... what you have just posted makes perfect sense


Surely that goes without saying!!!!   :-)) :-))


I have a professional need to stay informed in this field - there is a lot of work in it (including some of mine  :embarrassed: :embarrassed:) but quite a nice little recent paper is this one: http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/167719/whyfromnigeria.pdf (http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/167719/whyfromnigeria.pdf)
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: essex2visuvesi on August 23, 2012, 06:21:01 pm
My head hurts after reading that... but its interesting reading
We may laugh at their stupidity but underneath it is actually a very clever scam that obviously works

Im off to write some dodgy emails lol
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 23, 2012, 06:28:14 pm
We tend to scoff at the 'gullibility' of these old people who fall for the scams but they were us not so long ago and we will be them in the not so distant future and quite possibly gradually losing our own marbles....

Colin
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: tobyker on August 23, 2012, 07:36:01 pm
Plese sennd me all your munny
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: Neil on August 23, 2012, 07:37:14 pm
We tend to scoff at the 'gullibility' of these old people who fall for the scams but they were us not so long ago and we will be them in the not so distant future and quite possibly gradually losing our own marbles....

Colin

What you mean gradually loosing my marbles, Colin.........I lost my marbles out of my Pharoah's tomb a while ago...think they had "Elgin" stamped on them!!! %% %% %% %% %% %%
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 23, 2012, 08:03:52 pm
Elgin's marbles came from Greece - you must be thinking of Pyramid schemes... %)
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: pettyofficernick on August 23, 2012, 08:08:48 pm
Personally, I forward these emails on to the fraud departments of the banks in question, I have even had replies thanking me from one or two high street banks :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: Neil on August 23, 2012, 09:12:06 pm
Elgin's marbles came from Greece - you must be thinking of Pyramid schemes... %)

knew they were from somewhere older and dustier than my workshop, Colin.......just didn't put 2 and 2 together to getother than  my place............. {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: ON LINE BANKING CONS!!!
Post by: TheLongBuild on August 23, 2012, 09:29:58 pm
We tend to scoff at the 'gullibility' of these old people who fall for the scams but they were us not so long ago and we will be them in the not so distant future and quite possibly gradually losing our own marbles....

Colin
Not always the old, did'nt some judge / solicitor recently loose evertyhing to such a scam.. ?