Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Any Other Builds => Topic started by: Jerry C on September 26, 2012, 12:23:07 pm
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Give me a set of plans and I can make most things but I'm not very good when it comes to art or design. I have built a beautiful steam launch and I have found that I really enjoy sailing her. With an electric boat I only need to carry the transmitter but the steam launch requires much more such as :-
gas canisters (4), fire extinguisher, igniter, syringes (for grease, oil and water), pliers, screwdrivers, spanners, box spanners, spare Rx battery, matches, silicone sealant, knife, wire brushes, tubing and tweezers plus assorted nuts, bolts and washers. I carry all this in B & Q compartment boxes in a fold down, plastic storage box.
I want to make a nice wooden tool case with carrying brass handle, hinges and fasteners. I want to construct it in the style of an apprentice piece, such that peeps admiring the launch will also look favourably on the tool case. Ideally, when open, every item should be visible and accessible , ie in compartments not drawers. I'm thinking spring clips and magnetic holders, a folding down work area, slide out and fold up boat stand/steady. It doesn't need legs as where I sail her has picnic tables, one of which appears to have become "ours" on Sundays.
This is the situation at present.
(http://s15.postimage.org/6vczeln13/tools_002.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6vczeln13/)
I would be grateful for any ideas, photos or tips to get me started. Thanks in anticipation.
Jerry.
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Hi Jerry, is it something like this you are after? http://www.chronos.ltd.uk/acatalog/NEW-_TRADITIONAL_TOOLMAKERS_TOOL_CHEST.html
Heres a downloadable plan http://blog.lostartpress.com/2011/11/07/download-plans-for-the-traveling-tool-chest/
Although the plan isnt free, you may get some ideas.... http://store.finewoodworking.com/dovetail-toolbox-065109.html
Regards,
Nick.
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Jerry, there are a good variety of tool chests on here, some with plans..... http://www.woodworkersworkshop.com/resources/index.php?search=WOOD%20TOOLBOX&page=4 (http://www.woodworkersworkshop.com/resources/index.php?search=WOOD%20TOOLBOX&page=4) There are five pages in total so there may be something useful or one that you could easily adapt to be what you're after.
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Thanks guys, I knew you wouldn't let me down. I'm very taken with the Chronos chest. That would be quite simple to make. I think I can beat the price but not by much. But hey, the wife says I need a project or she won't be answerable for the consequences!
This is what I've got to get sorted.
(http://s15.postimage.org/htmwy79av/support_kit_001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/htmwy79av/)
Support kit.
So keep the ideas coming folks. Maybe somebody made one and won't mind me cribbing.
Jerry.
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I decided, under duress, to go with the Chronos type. Yesterday spent working up a 1:1 scale drawing. So off to the shops. 50p for 30 minutes parking, 85p in the art shop for a big piece of paper and the rest of the time looking for a T square. Not found so back home to make one out of my old meter rule and a piece of scrap sapele. Began by using approx dimensions from the advert and decided to make whole chest from 12mm oak faced ply cos I have a fair quantity of left over oak from a previous furniture project. All joints will be either dado or tongue and groove and PVA adhesive. The top two small drawers will be sub divided as will the uppermost large drawer. The box formed by the lid will accommodate 5 gas canisters and the fire extinguisher. Will require to source from tinterweb the following:-
3 brass hinges, 8 brass corners, 2 suitcase type brass lid clips, 10 ickle brass drawer knobs, 1 brass 2 lever drawer lock, 2 brass lid steadies, 1 brass escutcheon and military brass inset flush folding handle to cart it all round with.
Did I mention brass? ARE THEY MAD?!! That little lot would cost nearly as much as the chest for crying out loud. I'm not going to buy the chest cos it's oriental and I can do better. But I had to do a rethink and go initially for nickel plate and will just have to keep my eyes open at car booties for brassbound boxes and fit brass later, as it becomes available. The knobs have been downgraded to beech and I will probably ebonise them. And it all still cost 40 quids!
So that's where I stand, waiting for postie. When I can measure the knobs I can finalise the drawer size and finish the drawings and get making. Overnight I remembered that I had a pair of oak doors which were doubling as shelves so will make all out of solid oak.
(http://s8.postimage.org/ubexfxvld/toolchest_001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ubexfxvld/)
Time to wake Kity. Martin, I'll do a build log of the chest so would you move it to where it'll do most good and rename it "Building A Tool Chest". Ta.
Jerry.
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Hi Jerry, I see you are well on your way to making your tool/storage box. However I had a similar problem & I solved it by buying fishing tackle boxes made by a company called Plano. They are readily available here in sporting goods stores (Canada)but I think they are also sold in the U/K. I use them for just about everything to do with my model boats,including assigning one to each build. An added bonus is they are reasonably priced, well made & come in all shapes & sizes. I would recommend them to anyone in the model boat building hobby.I use 7 in my workshop. Mick B.
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Topic name changed on request. :-)
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The Scandinavian sales shop, with the four letter word for c*ap used to sell a line of multi drawered wooden boxes.
Regards Ian.
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Save yourself a few quid on the project - find your local pool / snooker table suppliers and tap them up for some second hand wool* cloth from a table recover....looks nice and helps protect your tools.
* a lot of operators use the new fangled nylon'napless' cloth - not as good for drawer lining, too thin. If you have a problem 'pm' me.
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Thanks for the input guys. While waiting for the hardware to arrive I've been getting a newer caravan from down south and fettled it up to my spec and got the old one ready for sale. We are going up to Coniston next week to do a recce for the Coniston Regatta next May/June.
Got started on the box today. Took down the three oak shelves,
(http://s9.postimage.org/bu7akcymz/toolbox_002.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/bu7akcymz/)
and ripped them down to manageable widths for the planer.
(http://s14.postimage.org/l7h7ewirx/toolbox_003.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/l7h7ewirx/)
Then I used the surface planer to plane the face sides and edges before putting them all through the thicknesser and planing down to 12mm thick.
(http://s11.postimage.org/jofc8q0rz/toolbox_005.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jofc8q0rz/)
Using 12mm stock simplifies construction as all dados are 12mm with the exception of drawer slides which are 10mm. After planing, some beautiful modullary rays are showing. Tomorrow will do a lot of arranging to make best use the rays.
Jerry.
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Hi Jerry, I have a "field" cabinet which I take both sailing as well as flying. In the photo, the top table is removed both for transporting as well as for a flying outing. On a flying outing, the planes fit snuggly into frames at either end which double as holders for the carrying handle. The legs come off by loosening one wing nut at each end, so it is easy to set up. The drawers are used for various parts, which will include steam parts when I get that going. Thought I would put this up for general interest. Brian
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Wow Brian, does it play tunes as well?! See you are in Capetown, give my love to Panama Jacks. I often go there when I stop for bunkers, water and stores.
today spent, between interuptions, making up a panel with biscuits to make the end panels and front.
(http://s7.postimage.org/y4juq6fvb/toolbox_001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/y4juq6fvb/)
Gone are the days of wide boards and anyway my Kity can only handle 5" wide stock.
(http://s17.postimage.org/nitjv13y3/001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/nitjv13y3/)
Tomorrow will make up boards out of the plain timber for base, drawer dividers and topbox bottom. Still got to find decent oak for top, back and drawer fronts. Am in the process of making up each part, slightly oversize. When all gathered together will start milling tongues, grooves and dadoes.
Jerry.
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Wow Brian, does it play tunes as well?! See you are in Capetown, give my love to Panama Jacks. I often go there when I stop for bunkers, water and stores.
today spent, between interuptions, making up a panel with biscuits to make the end panels and front.
Might I be so bold as to suggest using Ginger nuts for the joints rather than its much less robust cousin the Digestive?
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Haven't been moving along as quickly as I had hoped but what's new. The last few days I have cut all the parts to slightly oversize then planed to exact size. Next I did all the tongue and grooves on the table saw-----
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--and lastly today I did all the dados.
(http://s15.postimage.org/ahw9bc7p3/003.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ahw9bc7p3/)
If any one isn't familiar with a dado cutter here are a couple of pics. Basically it consists of two 8" blades, 4 thick chippers and a set of shims. Mine is unfortunately imperial but I get by. It's so much more convenient than routing. As a matter of interest, nearly all my woodwork is a la "New Yankee Workshop" as taught by Uncle Norm.
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So tomorrow a quick sanding for the inside bits, glue in the drawer sliders and a dry assembly to make sure the drawers are going to work ok. If all ok will glue up.
I can'y manage without a spell chicker!!!! OK?
Jerry.
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started fitting lock, striker plate and handles. also did beading on lid, door and drawer fronts. jerry.
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Yesterday I glued up the carcass.
Obviously a bit of fettling needed here.
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That really looks the bees knees of boxes Jerry nice coat of varnish to finish it off and it will look fantastic
Dave
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Thats some nice carpentry..... do you do commisions? lol
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Thats some nice carpentry..... do you do commisions? lol
That's not 'carpentry' that's darn fine Cabinet Making :-)) :-)) :-))
Ned
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Nice box, you'll be knocking out dodgy Chippendale sideboards next :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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There are "Cabinet Makers" who do a long apprenticeship and make a piece far better than this to get released. Then there is a bloke making a cabinet. That's me. It's full of stupid mistakes and I know where they are but it will look ok in the end. Never the less thankyou all for your kind words. It's solid oak and maybe my scantlings were a little over generous so next project could well be a trolley to cart it round on!
Jerry.
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The last few days spent fitting hinges,clasps and drawer knobs plus some final fettling to make everything fit and line up as it should. Took a bit of time getting drawers to run smoothly and lie flush with equal gaps all round. The carcass wracked a little during glue up but a few minutes with the block plane disappeared that problem. I bought a box of assorted crosshead slotted brass screws from screwfix. I looked closely at a fair few but couldn't see any hallmarka on any of them. What's happened to the price of brass?!! So a little final sanding session then it's off to the finishing room.
Jerry.
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you fancy making another?
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And another??
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Jerry, as a retired time served joiner who used to make things like this for a living, I take my hat off to you.
An absolutely excellent "box". (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/Smileys/tumb.gif)
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It's lovely Jerry, I do love work like that, it will last forever.... now you need to make one small enough to take out with the boat ! You could fettle the Wavely with all the tools that will hold ! ... :-)
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The box I used for the idea made in china is available from Chronos engineering for£106. Don't know what the wood is. This has cost me about £60 with free oak. It's quite an involved build and fortunately I have a Kity. I wouldn't fancy doing it with a router for doing the dados. I suppose you could do the tongue and groove joins with a table saw. If I factored in my time it's an expensive piece of kit but it will compliment the steam launch. I've decided to call it the FSU. (Forward Support Unit). That's the RN coming out in me!
Jerry.
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wow thats brilliant :-))
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A fine job Jerry. Thanks for sharing it with us. How heavy is it? Are those handles big enough to enable you to carry the cabinet? It is surely big enough to compliment a number of steam launches! Cheers and enjoy. Brian
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It's not as big as it looks. It's same size as the plastic container I use to carry all the kit. I sometimes help fix other peeps boats lakeside. It is heavy though cos it's oak.
Jerry.
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am having great difficulty posting this. site keeps telling me file too big even though all pics resized. TONIGHT FOR ONE NIGHT ONLY, IRB INTERNATIONAL RUGBY AT EIRIAS PARK COLWYN BAY, CANADA V SAMOA AND USA V RUSSIA. Yes I am shouting cos ticket sales reportedly low as Colwyn Bay Council who are running it didn't tell anyone! will be streamed live on IRB & WRU websites and TSN?
Jerry.
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hardware painted and 2 coats sanding sealer applied to wood.
jerry.
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I think I've found the trouble with posting pics. The top button "Add image to post" won't work no matter what I do. The bottom button now has to be used, "Attachments and other options". The pics first need to be resized, I now use paint. I used to resize in pixels to 640x? keeping aspect ratio same on old forum. That won't do here.!!! We must resize to <161KB. This requires a few attempts with pixel sizes to get right and every pic is different. Not happy with this. Please don't tell me to go to photo bucket. Not interested! I just want what we had before. Top button, use that resize device, worked fine at 640x? pixels. We could put a pic where we wanted in relation to text not like here where they all come in one lump. Can't preview either. And either my spelling has improved dramaticaly or this spellchecker is a yes man.
Disgrumbled of tin broj walls!
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Reference the rugby at Colwyn Bay tonight. The council in their wisdom have decided to charge £26 per match. Don't tell anyone then rob all the peeps that do turn up! Hope it stops raining but then at that price I expect a brolly wallah for the night.
Jerry.
And can somebody sort out these pound signs?
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Hi Jerry, South Africa play Ireland tomorrow, I think (??). Should be a good game. About the pics problem, these computer guys seem to think we have to move with the times! Sigh - I suppose we do >>:-(
Your cabinet is superb, Mr. cabinet maker! Any orders possible for delivery Cape Town? Brian
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Mr. cabinet maker! Any orders possible for delivery Cape Town? Brian
>>:-( Excuse me! back of the queue! <*< :P ;D
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Jerry you have done a great job with your toolbox so I thought I would have a look at the original,
and suddenly it had been added to my Basket for delivery in a few days -then had inspiration and told
S.W.M.B.O that it was part of my chrissie present and I had paid for it with her credit card. I'm still
in one piece, so far!!
Geoff
Geoff
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wow lucky you getting a tool box on her card and you still have your gonads , my hat is off to you mate :-))
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What he doesn't know yet is that she has just bought herself 2 pairs of Jimmy Choos and matching handbag for her xmas pressie his card
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No it will cost me a new saddle for the new horse so I will lose out in the end. She isnt in to Jimmy Choos
more likely horseshoes which cost more in the long run as you replace them every 8 to 10 weeks.
Geoff
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Yikes... my stepdaughters are into horseriding so I can imagine the expense of owning a horse. Boots, body protector (legal requirement) and helmet came to over €200 each and the rate they are growing it will be the same again in 6 months :(
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Got the first, thinned coat of varnish on with the exception of the front of the sliding door.
Jerry.
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Now comes the real expensive bit, buying the tools to fill it, after all you can't put old used tools into a nice box like that can you ?. Serious though you have made a beautiful job of it, one day it will become a family heirloom. Mick B.
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Looks great Jerry. Can you also show the bits and pieces that go into it? Judging by the cabinet they should be good! Happy sailing. Brian
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Jerry
You mentioned making a trolley.
I would be inclined to put wheels on the tool chest. Use the locking all direction castor type. Or two all direction at one end and two fixed direction at the other.
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Thanks for all the comments guys but I won't be replacing any tools as they are all old friends, in fact I have a very old set of American Bluepoint spanners which were handed down to me. When I was building old bikes the Snap-on rep called and offered to replace them new for old cos the chrome had come off. They are garanteed for life and they mean it. He understood when I declined his kind offer. The chest doesn't need wheels as it's really not that big but I am on the lookout for a bearer to carry it for me. So much more dignified than wheels dontcha know, what. I cut back the first coat of varnish with wire wool then got the second coat on today. On the subject of bikes, here's one I made earlier.
Jerry.
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That Jerry looks BEAUTIFUL
Dave
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Finally finished the varnishing. I need to get 2 countersunk M5 screws for the top handle. I've got some nice navy blue felt for the drawer liners. Will box it all off tomorrow. Box, get it? It seems postimage acting up again, funny cos it worked yesterday, so will try an attachment. Wish me luck. Yippee!
Jerry.
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Excellent job, hats off to you Sir!! More like a piece of furniture than a tool box. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Excellent job, hats off to you Sir!! More like a piece of furniture than a tool box. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
my thoughts as well , lovely build :-))
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I am not sure you could make any money building boxes of this standard, but if you could I would suspect you would have full time employment for the foreseeable future & I would be glad to be one of your customers. Just an excellent job & thank you for sharing this with us. Mick B.
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Now you just need to build another smaller but matching box to put the transmitter in :)
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Jerry, lovely job, I received my toolbox from chronos from which you modelled yours, it is very useful and reasonably well made
but I haven't a clue about the wood (certainly not oak) and the finish is nowhere near as good as yours nor the metal fittings.
Geoff
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Now you just need to build another smaller but matching box to put the transmitter in :)
Please Please Please dont give him any ideas..................we are going to be swamped with beautiful boxes and I havent got much furniture left ............. Im sitting on orange boxes as it is!!!
Mrs C.................she who is always obeyed....
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I love oak, especially quartered oak, jerry.............used to love working with it, the smell, the way it chiselled and cut and the beautiful colours you could get out of it with the right varnishes........and you have achieved all that with aplomb........superb, and a real heirloom for generations to come.
I only wish I'd kept some of my stuff, and my grandads.
your Triton looks superb as well, Bonnie motor?? do you still have it.
neil.
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Thank you Neil. The wood came from parts I salvaged from a cheap old piece of furniture, stained almost black. Thought it would come in handy one day. When I cut it up to fit my Kity and planed it I found most of it was 1/4 sawn showing a lot of medulary rays. I selected the best pieces to glue up back into boards. Agree it's lovely to work with. I made 36 Tritons in another life and shipped them all over the world. Could never afford one myself. Mostly 650 pre-unit Bonnies and some with 750 Morgo conversions and electronic ignition.
Jerry.